XXI reworked skins are waiting for release.

[lutzow]

Some time ago magic user named Racerboy has reworked for me some skins for type XXI. [I requested this]. Original authors of those skins are Sikkboy ''Geheimprojekt Typ XXI'' and Type941''ModernType21 Skin''.
Before reworking, in GWX skins has not visible emblem,radio loop antenna and there was no water reflections.
Because i wanted to give those reworked skins for SUBSIM community, i sended letters to Sikkboy and Type941 with request for permission.
Date of requesting - 19.VIII.2007 - so over 1 month ago.
Here are my letters for request permission:
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Letter to Sikkboy
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Title:Request permission.
Hi Kaleun
Modder named Racerboy has reworked your skin for XXI type.
He was modified DAT file in your original released file named
''Geheimprojekt Typ XXI'' and that modified file is for SH3 with GWX .
New skin now has visible emblem,radio loop antenna and water
reflections. All that together gives us super skin for GWX type XXI.
Original colours released by you are NOT changed.
We want to ask you about PERMISSION to release modified
skin on SUBSIM forum for hundreds KaleunZ.
Are you agree?
Lutzow - abyss expolorer.
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Letter to Type941
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Title:Request permission.
Hi Kaleun
Modder named Racerboy has reworked your skin for XXI type.
He was modified DAT file in your original released file named
''ModernType21 Skin'' and that modified file is for SH3 with GWX .
New skin now has visible emblem,radio loop antenna and water
reflections. All that together gives us super skin for GWX type XXI.
Original colours released by you are NOT changed.
We want to ask you about PERMISSION to release modified
skin on SUBSIM forum for hundreds KaleunZ.
Are you agree?
Lutzow - abyss expolorer.
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They don't answered me yet and after looking into their personal files at
SUBSIM forum i lost hope for any permission...
Type941 last activity on SUBSIM forum was 25.II.2007 - Rank Old Man
Sikkboy last activity on SUBSIM forum was 31.XII.1969 (!!?) - Rank Bilge Rat [1 post]
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Some screens:
Geheimproject before reworking DAT files:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2231/geheimbeforetn5.png
Geheimproject reworked:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/346/geheimgt5.png
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4113/geheim1lu8.png
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5494/geheim2bz6.png
Moderntype before reworking DAT files:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7608/modernbeforeyg5.png
Moderntype reworked:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4880/modern2wg1.png
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8971/modern1th3.png
Here is also reworked NN skin [unrecognized author] for XXI type...
Maybe this is skin from SH3 1.4b - i don't remember [not played in naked SH3 from ages].
In orginal files there was no texture for air turrets:
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5950/nnwithnotexgf3.png
so i founded my own...[i don't tell about it to Racerboy, but he's recognized
in one moment that this texture is from ''another courtyard'']:up:
Now turrets are little darker than tower but there was no other for choice.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2446/nn1ka8.png
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/8025/nn2yy8.png
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2650/nn3bv3.png
So - we got three amazing reworked skins for GWX u-boat type XXI.
[We - means me and Racerboy].
I have permission from Racerboy to release those files.
I have no permission for release from Type941 and Sikkboy.
I leave decision to all of you: [release or not] Kaleuns, so your feedback is needed.
All credits for reworking goes to Racerboy - i just provided him with those files.
And i take all consequences for event illegal release.

[nikbear]

Please release the skins,I'm sure that the original authors would be fine as long as credit is given,you've gone out of your way to do that:up: so everything is fine I would have thought;)

[Kodaita]

I would say go ahead and release them. You asked Sikkboy and Type941 for permission and waited long enough. No reason for their work to go unused just because they are no longer around. I am sure if they came back they would give permission anyways.

[lutzow]

Verdammt - that are answers from only two Kaleuns and over 110 persons
passed over this thread without a word!!!:stare:
Sometimes i have a feeling that there is a huge pack of leechers - they
are looking only for links lines!:down:

I'm very curious how many times those XXI skins will be downloaded after
release.

[Spruence M]

I don't believe that anyone is going to have a problem with you releasing those skins. You have done everything possible short of stalking those guys in question.

The community is so great here, I'm convinced there will not be a problem.

[TheDarkWraith]

Verdammt - that are answers from only two Kaleuns and over 110 persons
passed over this thread without a word!!!:stare:
Sometimes i have a feeling that there is a huge pack of leechers - they
are looking only for links lines!:down:

I feel your pain and angst. Nothing we can do about it but grin and bear it and keep moving on.

[KrvKpt. Falke]

Please release them! You can't wait for someone who havent been here for almost a year or more. Give original modders a credit in readme and thats it.

[Mast]

You've done everything trying to contact them. I think they wouldn't mind because their work is still being recognized and updated. Go for it. :up:

Mast

[Jhereg]

You could give this thread say a week to see if they respond, in case they are lurking on the boards.

If in that time there is no response, you have demonstrably made an effort to remain a reponsible forum member and release them.

[Kodaita]

Just a quick note, I can't speak for anyone else, but I will certainly be downloading the XXI skins. I always have one career going with a XXI.

And on a personal note, I agree with Racerboy. All you can do is grin and bear it. Just make sure you don't grin and bare it :rotfl:

[Cezbor]

Try to e-mail them again. If they will not answer in 14 days, you have a green light to relase those skins. Of course in txt. files their names and credits should be mentioned.:yep:

[lutzow]

Reworked XXI skins uploaded here :
http://files.filefront.com/3+XXI+skins+REWORKED/;8647005;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/3+XXI+skins+REWORKED/;8647005;/fileinfo.html)
[Rar file weight - 14,5 Mb]

Kaleuns: RACERBOY, Nikbear, Kodaita, Spruence M, KrvKpt. Falke, Mast, Jhereg, Cezbor
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THANK YOU

[sh3rules]

From what I gather in this forum, not many people play with the XXI. I feel hopelessly outmatched when facing destroyers after 43, so having the XXI levels the playing field (at least for me). I enjoy playing with the XXI, and was hoping that somebody would fix this sub. We already have a few fixes, so this would be a great addition.

My take is, since they're acknowledged in the Readme, they shouldn't have a problem with it.

GO XXI!!!

Thanks for the files.

[Kodaita]

:up::rock::|\\

I am loving these skins, but I have a bit of an issue. I can't make up my mind which to use. Can someone please ask the English and Americans to put the war on hold while I decide what paint scheme to use? This should only take a year or two :rotfl:

[Paajtor]

Great work, Lutzow and Racerboy!

I found Type941's ''ModernType21 Skin'' on UBRS last spring (topic (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=113847)), and I liked it much more than the "stock" GWX-skin (for the awesome looks of course, but also because this skin had better textures on the turrets).
But there were a few issues, which now seem to have been fixed...thank you, Sirs!:up:

[Wolfehunter]

Nice work dudes. :up: I love the darker almost black look for it. Its funny with Ubisoft I'm glade they botched up SH3. Look at what all you modders are doing to keep SH3 alive and new. I bet you guys are giving Ubisofts Dev team a hard time to keep up with you for there newer releases. ;)

[sh3rules]

Yep, they're really going to have to come up with something special for the next sub sim. Whether they do Japan or revisit Germany, the bar has been set very high. Off-topic, I wanted to get my hands on a Gato or Balao Class, but I can't seem to bring myself to buy SHIV. After reading what some in this forum wrote, I'm really discouraged.

[Paajtor]

Found a nice model (http://www.modelspot.com/robbe/u2540.htm)....scale 1:40, almost 2m long, weighing 12kgs! :o

http://www.modelspot.com/robbe/1241-1.jpg

[Wolfehunter]

Found a nice model (http://www.modelspot.com/robbe/u2540.htm)....scale 1:40, almost 2m long, weighing 12kgs! :o



HMMMMmmm:hmm:

Naw I'm working now on XXI U-2511 hehehhe.:up: