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SilverGhost
09-13-07, 09:43 AM
Has anyone encountered her yet? :-? I assume she's going to be inside a convoy tracking over the northern route from NY to Liverpool? :know:
I think I've put the mod in correctly...enabled with JGME, have a reference to it as well in the ship ID book.
Where is she?!
Queen Mary is somewhere in the british ocean liners' route;
She's random spawned like a ocean liner, if you don't edit the campaign files, and this is very hard to do..
greats
mrbeast
09-13-07, 10:35 AM
Has anyone encountered her yet? :-? I assume she's going to be inside a convoy tracking over the northern route from NY to Liverpool? :know:
I think I've put the mod in correctly...enabled with JGME, have a reference to it as well in the ship ID book.
Where is she?!
The Queen Mary and other large modern liners like her were fast ships and so usually sailed alone. They were simply to fast for U boats to catch them, even while running on the surface, and zig zagging too. They might sail in company with other fast transports as a small convoy but you won't fnd her stuck at 6 knots in the middle of a big out bound from Halifax or anything like that. Its interesting to note that any escorts she would have were purely for show, they were going so fast that they couldn't hear anything on hydrophones or get any kind of contacts on active sonar either!
danurve
09-13-07, 10:43 AM
Funny this was brought up, but the joke was on my boat.
Caught her following another liner N/E BE17 doing 20+ knots.
Slightly out of position, no way I could catch them; only thing I could do was take a picture.
Jimbuna
09-13-07, 10:45 AM
In late August 1939, the Queen Mary was on a return run from New York to Southampton. However, the international situation led to her being shadowed by the battlecruiser HMS Hood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Hood_%2851%29). She arrived safely, and set out again for New York on 1 September (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_1). By the time she arrived, the Second World War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World_War) had started, and she was ordered to stay where she was, joining her great rival, Normandie. In 1940, the pair were also joined by Queen Mary's running mate Queen Elizabeth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Queen_Elizabeth). Rather than keeping them bottled up, it was decided to use them as troopships (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troopship). So, the Queen Mary left New York for Sydney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney%2C_Australia), where she, along with several other liners, was converted into a troopship to carry Australian and New Zealand soldiers to the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom). Eventually joined by the Queen Elizabeth, they were the largest and fastest troopships involved in the war, often carrying as many as 15,000 men in a single voyage, and often travelling out of convoy and without escort. During this period, because of their wartime grey camouflage livery and elusiveness, both Queens received the nickname "The Grey Ghost". Because of their size and prestige their sinking was such a high priority for Germany that Adolf Hitler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler) offered the equivalent of $250,000.00 and the Iron Cross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross) to the U-boat commander who could sink them.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Queen_Mary#_note-2) However, their high speed meant that it was virtually impossible for U-Boats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_boat) to catch them. Once, Germany was nearly successful; whilst the Queen Mary was in South American waters, a radio signal was intercepted which indicated that spies had reported her last refuelling stop and a U-Boat was waiting on her line of voyage. After being alerted, the Queen Mary changed course and escaped.
On 2 October (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2) 1942 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942), Queen Mary accidentally sank one of her escorts, slicing through the light cruiser HMS Curacoa (D41) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Curacoa_%28D41%29), with the loss of 338 lives. Due to the constant danger of being attacked by U-Boats, the Queen Mary could not stop, or even slow down, to rescue survivors.
In December 1942, the Queen Mary was carrying exactly 16,082 American troops from New York to Great Britain. While 700 miles from Scotland during a gale, she was suddenly hit broadside by a rogue wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave_%28oceanography%29) that may have reached a height of 28 metres (92 ft). In his book, The Age of Cunard, author Daniel Allen Butler mentions that the immense wall of water damaged lifeboats on the boat deck and broke windows on the bridge – 90 feet above the waterline. The huge wave caused a list that briefly reached an astounding 52 degrees before the ship slowly righted itself. He reported that investigations later estimated that three more degrees of list (about 5 inches in the wrong direction) would have made the vessel capsize. He also said that seasoned hands on the ship felt it would indeed roll over. The occurrence was kept secret at the time. An account of this crossing can be found in Walter Ford Carter's book, No Greater Sacrifice, No Greater Love. Carter's father, Dr. Norval Carter, part of the 110th Station Hospital on board at the time, wrote that at one point the Queen Mary "damned near capsized... One moment the top deck was at its usual height and then, swoom! Down, over, and forward she would pitch." The incident inspired Paul Gallico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gallico) to write his story, The Poseidon Adventure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Poseidon_Adventure), which was later made into a film by the same name, using the Queen Mary as a stand-in for the SS Poseidon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Poseidon).
mrbeast
09-13-07, 11:57 AM
Fascinating info jimbuna I love hearing about the exploits of ships during the war always find it very interesting. The Curacoa was a tragic accident its said that you can still hear the screams of her crew, as they flounder in the water, in the bow section of the Queen Mary's hull! :o :roll:
I spot Mary on mediterran sea:
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2255/02mq0.png
Her engines was stopped - she was not moving.
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3204/03qs3.png
Suicidal like Yamato?
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/808/04cw4.png
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9794/05yc0.png
So what i has to do? I shot her with one torpedo...
And ''She's going down'' after one hit. Sad.
Venatore
09-13-07, 11:08 PM
Has anyone encountered her yet? :-? I assume she's going to be inside a convoy tracking over the northern route from NY to Liverpool? :know:
I think I've put the mod in correctly...enabled with JGME, have a reference to it as well in the ship ID book.
Where is she?!
I've just noticed your name and the history of the Queen Mary Ghosts.....creepy :eek:
I sunk it 3 times. Every hit done at Med., last QM co. CN 66 and near Tripoli. It seems to me her route is from Tripoli to or via Gibraltar.
As it was written above, QM is suffering from a strange bag. When QM is spotted via pericope ora via external view (F12) it stops engines. I confirm, and there is no doubt, that QM is moving. As I recall everytime QM sails in small convoys along with Pasenger Liner (23-24 000 BRT) or CHT Liner (about 5000 BRT) and 2-3 marchants, and 2-4 escort ships. In the meantime in my 29 patrol I'm about to attack QM (near Tripoli - about 150 km North), so the "problem" is hot for me.
I can't confirm however one hit sunk possiblity. I did used only one torp on QM to destroy it, but - I must confesse - I'm using tweaked T VII :oops: (this baby can sunk a KG V in one shot no matter where it'll hit). The bug is annoying, because QM stops many km away from a convoy, so I have to make two different torp attacks instead of one, and everytime it ends with pings and deaphtcharging from escort DD's for about 1 hour or 1,5. But it is still worth it.:up:
And if you .... need some sreens - just ask and I can upload some (after I learn from sticky thread how to do that) for you.
denis_469
09-14-07, 02:07 AM
I sunk it 3 times. Every hit done at Med., last QM co. CN 66 and near Tripoli. It seems to me her route is from Tripoli to or via Gibraltar.
As it was written above, QM is suffering from a strange bag. When QM is spotted via pericope ora via external view (F12) it stops engines. I confirm, and there is no doubt, that QM is moving. As I recall everytime QM sails in small convoys along with Pasenger Liner (23-24 000 BRT) or CHT Liner (about 5000 BRT) and 2-3 marchants, and 2-4 escort ships. In the meantime in my 29 patrol I'm about to attack QM (near Tripoli - about 150 km North), so the "problem" is hot for me.
I can't confirm however one hit sunk possiblity. I did used only one torp on QM to destroy it, but - I must confesse - I'm using tweaked T VII :oops: (this baby can sunk a KG V in one shot no matter where it'll hit). The bug is annoying, because QM stops many km away from a convoy, so I have to make two different torp attacks instead of one, and everytime it ends with pings and deaphtcharging from escort DD's for about 1 hour or 1,5. But it is still worth it.:up:
T-VII is power torpedo. But I not fire this torpedo yet.:oops: About liner QM - I think, that it ship may be sunk 1 torpedo T-I if deth setting would be near 1 m. Rolling.
I sunk it 3 times. Every hit done at Med., last QM co. CN 66 and near Tripoli. It seems to me her route is from Tripoli to or via Gibraltar.
As it was written above, QM is suffering from a strange bag. When QM is spotted via pericope ora via external view (F12) it stops engines. I confirm, and there is no doubt, that QM is moving. As I recall everytime QM sails in small convoys along with Pasenger Liner (23-24 000 BRT) or CHT Liner (about 5000 BRT) and 2-3 marchants, and 2-4 escort ships. In the meantime in my 29 patrol I'm about to attack QM (near Tripoli - about 150 km North), so the "problem" is hot for me.
I can't confirm however one hit sunk possiblity. I did used only one torp on QM to destroy it, but - I must confesse - I'm using tweaked T VII :oops: (this baby can sunk a KG V in one shot no matter where it'll hit). The bug is annoying, because QM stops many km away from a convoy, so I have to make two different torp attacks instead of one, and everytime it ends with pings and deaphtcharging from escort DD's for about 1 hour or 1,5. But it is still worth it.:up:
T-VII is power torpedo. But I not fire this torpedo yet.:oops: About liner QM - I think, that it ship may be sunk 1 torpedo T-I if deth setting would be near 1 m. Rolling.
Don't worry about T VII, it's available from late 1944. Well let's say I'm not playing fair:oops: , but ... war is a hell:yep:
And something else, for those who don't belive that LUS Liner exists, I say it does. I sunk it 2 times. One at Med, I don't recall co., and second somewhere at Northern Indian Ocean.:yep:
Jimbuna
09-14-07, 07:48 AM
Fascinating info jimbuna I love hearing about the exploits of ships during the war always find it very interesting. The Curacoa was a tragic accident its said that you can still hear the screams of her crew, as they flounder in the water, in the bow section of the Queen Mary's hull! :o :roll:
Creepy :o
Stealth Hunter
09-15-07, 01:55 AM
I spot Mary on mediterran sea:
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2255/02mq0.png
Her engines was stopped - she was not moving.
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3204/03qs3.png
Suicidal like Yamato?
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/808/04cw4.png
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9794/05yc0.png
So what i has to do? I shot her with one torpedo...
And ''She's going down'' after one hit. Sad.
Aww... no pics of her plunging to her doom?
Stealth Hunter - THAT are pictures of her doom - screens was taken after
words ''She's going down'' !!:-?!
Mary was sinked so slowly to wait for any impressions from this...
So i left her alone...
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