SH V in the fall of 2009?

[corvette k225]

there is some talk just talk, that there will be a SH V in the fall of 2009, which will work on DX10 only, and back in the north atlantic.In German U-Boats, The north Atlantic is there biggest money maker worldwide.I hope that this is true,and they stay with the North Atlantic side of things, lets just hope this will be true. I hope
it will run on windows XP!:p

[Lagger123987]

On windows xp? By 09, XP will be outdated then you have to get vista to play SHV, but I still want to see a muti-nation sub game, pick a sub from different nations during World War 2 like British Subs in the Pacific or Japanese subs carrying top secrect stuff to the Germans, one of many examples.

[corvette k225]

Sorry,But I have windows vista, and I think it is Bill Gates second ME OS system.
It will take XP a long time to die.:smug:

[madmike81]

Where is this talk located? Do you have a link that we can all go look at?

That and after the mess that SH4 was...and still is...i hope either UBI has learned something or will stay away from the project alltogether.

Just my two cents...

[corvette k225]

Iam trying to find that link again, I think it was on Ubisoft site. From over sea's.

I hope and think they will go back to the U-boat sim again that has always been a money maker for them. I think the world market likes a U-boat sim better,then a US sub sim.:-?

[Hartmann]

Ubi don´t say anything about a new subsim yet, :roll: one question is if they will make another subsim after the problems with sh4 ?

let me remember Sh series

sh1 pacific scenary
sh2 atlantic
sh3 atlantic
sh4 pacific

and shV ??? a merge with both ?? a modern nuke sim ??...:hmm: who knows...

[StarFox]

how about this

SHV

Using subs built between 1912-2010, and you get to pick your time period

how coo would that be....sadly i doubt that would ever happen, would kick serious butt if it did though

[rik007]

DX10 will not run on Windows XP so SH V will not run at all!

[Canovaro]

That's right.

I bet I'll be still playing Sh3 then...:smug:

[Friedl9te]

Yeah, but the only reason why DirectX10 does not work with XP is M$ wants to force everybody to take Vista. Therefore they will not bring DirectX4XP.Thanks to BillyBoy

[Friedl9te]

On windows xp? By 09, XP will be outdated then you have to get vista to play SHV, but I still want to see a muti-nation sub game, pick a sub from different nations during World War 2 like British Subs in the Pacific or Japanese subs carrying top secrect stuff to the Germans, one of many examples.

Recently it was stated by M$ that XP support will be prolonged at least to 2008.

[frenema]

I thought they said SH4 would be the last? Then again, my memory is not reliable.

[Fenris_Wolf]

My hopes rest on winehq.org who are working on a project to make DX10 available for Windows XP and Linux. :rock: I would gladly pay, if required, for unofficial DX10 for XP instead of upgrading to a massive resource hog with probably a dozen more annoying features like the security center and shady monitoring/logging shiesse in it! :down:

[d@rk51d3]

Reading today that there are expectations for Vista to be dumped, and replaced with a new OS (Vienna?) by early 2009, with DX11.

Coincides with reports from other contacts I have within the IT industry, that Vista is going the way of ME.

Looks like XP may have quite a bit of life in it yet, and may be the best platform for any new game.

[bruschi sauro]

Silent Hunter V ? When ? For me never....
come si dice a Firenze .... sugli orecchi del porcellino!

[mrbeast]

If they do make a SH5 I'm hoping they go back to the Atlantic/Med but with a twist instead of U boats they do allied subs, RN and USN boats. Would be cool to lurk outside Brest or St Nazaire and fire a spread of fish at a passing U boat seting out on patrol or returning.

[mstgnymike]

If they do make a SH5 I'm hoping they go back to the Atlantic/Med but with a twist instead of U boats they do allied subs, RN and USN boats. Would be cool to lurk outside Brest or St Nazaire and fire a spread of fish at a passing U boat seting out on patrol or returning.

my personal thought is that if they make it a Allied game ill never play it...what is the fun in desroying tiny bits of German commerce considering they didnt need much being mainly a land locked war so supplies generated mainly between countrys, and also who wants to try and continuously put fish into the sids of lil u-boats, no fun in that and its kind of unrealistic...sure it happened occasionally but sub on sub warfare was not a pastime for the USN/RN navy.

[Sailor Steve]

No matter what theater, any new WWII subsim will have to be a major improvement on what we already have, or else what's the point?

[Dargo]

I hope that they make a destroyer vs sub game like DC/SH2

[STEED]

I will not buy a tarted up version of SH3 just to give some smuck the satisfaction of ripping people off. SH5 has to be a radical new game, say where you can play all sides in subs and destroyers along with a merchant too. Or so take charge as the boss deploying your subs and destroyers taking the decisions where to send them in the real war and a what if situation.

[Sailor Steve]

there is some talk just talk...
Where did you hear this talk? The only mention I've heard is here, and from you.

[mrbeast]

If they do make a SH5 I'm hoping they go back to the Atlantic/Med but with a twist instead of U boats they do allied subs, RN and USN boats. Would be cool to lurk outside Brest or St Nazaire and fire a spread of fish at a passing U boat seting out on patrol or returning.

my personal thought is that if they make it a Allied game ill never play it...what is the fun in desroying tiny bits of German commerce considering they didnt need much being mainly a land locked war so supplies generated mainly between countrys, and also who wants to try and continuously put fish into the sids of lil u-boats, no fun in that and its kind of unrealistic...sure it happened occasionally but sub on sub warfare was not a pastime for the USN/RN navy.

U boat interdiction was an important part of allied sub operations and RN submarines sank 12 U boats outside their bases for the loss of 4 sunk by U boats. Thats why U boats needed an escort out of port. U class submarines waged a very succesful war against Axis shipping in the med Lt Cmdr Wanklyn, Skipper of HMS Upholder sank 21 ships in the Med before he was killed. Agreed there aren't the large convoy battles but allied subs in the Atlantic had far from a boring time.

[skookum]

I'd like to see this Naval model expanded so players can take control of a variety of vessels (a la GNBNA) on campaigns that best represent the experience on each class. Wouldn't it be fun to drive a River Class frigate? How about HMS Hood? Heck, with AI improvements one could control an entire wolf pack at once. Now that's immersion!

All this would be possible with a simple addition to the engine: user created vessles.


Ship a few with the game and give modders an SDK so they can create their own ships.

[Reece]

DX10 beta for non Vista OS available for download here:
http://www.technospot.net/blogs/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp-from-alky-project/
Don't know anything about it, could be great then again might be crap!:yep:

Piece from a review:
However, that was before the Alky Project came to light limelight.
A chap called Cody Brocious from San Diego, California, claims to have started to create an wrapper for Windows executables so that they can be ran on another operating system, with no prejudice about that operating system.
A year in, the Alky Project has gone live under the cover of a company Falling Leaf Systems. Members of its Sapling Program will be able to get the wrappers for DirectX10 applications and run them not just on DX10 hardware under Windows XP, but with some DX9 hardware as well.
Although this sounds like a fairytale, Cody claims he reverse-engineered the Geometry Shader code, and that users will be able to run Windows games intended on the Mac OS X on x86-based Macinteltoshes as well as Linux.
While we are waiting for the wrappers so that we can show DX10 running under Windows XP - or not - you can check out the claims yourself.
Brocious did promise that a complete installer will be made available in the future.
Mind you, if the game is OpenGL compatable then won't need DX10.

[U-96]

If SHV was in the pacific and a Japanese sub commander sim, I would be the first to buy it. If not, going back to the atlantic would improved environments and interfaces would be good as well. The reason why the new games with the same premise are bought is because it's a significant improvement over the previous. SH2 was complete crap, yet SHIII was a masterpiece. If 3 years from now it's worth forking over 40 bucks for a vastly improved version of the game.

[panzer 49th]

DX10 will not run on Windows XP so SH V will not run at all!


I'm running it on xp with no problem why would you say that?

[Reece]

Is that the same as I mentioned panzer 49th, or is it a full install?:) if so could you please give a link?:yep: Thanks.

[WilhelmSchulz.]

If it is dose come out in a year I think that there will be problems worse than SHIV. :nope:

UBI PLEASE LISTEN LET THE DEVS TAKE THERE TIME WE WANT A WORKING GAME!!! :damn:

[Bosk]

If they're going to release another game that's riddled with bugs and has clearly been shoved out the door too soon, then I hope at least they make it a far more easily moddable/customizable.

I also think they should put far more thought into the strategy, realism & AI aspects of the game, and far less effort into the graphics.
Graphics are fine and all, but the graphics were good enough in the original Silent Hunter in my view, and the game ran far better than SH3 or SH4 which require ludicrous amounts of CPU/GPU resources for what they deliver.
The original Silent Hunter required only 8MB of RAM, and delivered a playing experience virtually identical to SH4 minus the flashy graphics whose effect on the player wear off after a few weeks anyway.

I'd also love to see a game that portrayed the entire WW2, playable as a sub skipper from the British, German, Japanese or American perspective.

In any event, bringing out a new game that is basically has identical gameplay to SH1 (yet again) but simply with a newer, flashier graphics engine will not cut it in my view. They need to add something new to keep things interesting, like they added crew management in SH3.
It would be really nice somehow if you were able to better see the effects of your sub's performance on the war itself.

[JU_88]

If they're going to release another game that's riddled with bugs and has clearly been shoved out the door too soon, then I hope at least they make it a far more easily moddable/customizable.

I also think they should put far more thought into the strategy, realism & AI aspects of the game, and far less effort into the graphics.
Graphics are fine and all, but the graphics were good enough in the original Silent Hunter in my view, and the game ran far better than SH3 or SH4 which require ludicrous amounts of CPU/GPU resources for what they deliver.
The original Silent Hunter required only 8MB of RAM, and delivered a playing experience virtually identical to SH4 minus the flashy graphics whose effect on the player wear off after a few weeks anyway.

I'd also love to see a game that portrayed the entire WW2, playable as a sub skipper from the British, German, Japanese or American perspective.

In any event, bringing out a new game that is basically has identical gameplay to SH1 (yet again) but simply with a newer, flashier graphics engine will not cut it in my view. They need to add something new to keep things interesting, like they added crew management in SH3.
It would be really nice somehow if you were able to better see the effects of your sub's performance on the war itself.

I wish for all the things you do but if ShV comes out, it will most likely

have flashy Graphics
have 1 nation playable
be released unfinnshed

Thats just the way it is, look at SH3 and 4, why would SH5 get the special treatment all of a sudden?
Same meat different gravy, you can count on it from Ubi - not always a bad thing though.
Ubi will never allow the same amount of time and budget to on an SH title as say - a Tom Clancy release)
there is just not enough return on it for them.... for this reason they may never be an SHV, I guess i depends how well SH4 has done.
I dont really like the Pacific but i bought SH4 anyway, need to support the franchise if nothing else.

[KrvKpt. Falke]

DX10 will not run on Windows XP so SH V will not run at all!

I'm running it on xp with no problem why would you say that?

There is no dx10 from Microsoft for XP. Latest version for XP is 9.0c (August 2007).

About SH5: i think that it can be, because what other games Ubisoft Romania are doing? As far as i know its Chessmaster and Blazing Angels series and there were sequels to both of those released lately. Besides - Silent Hunter is the biggest title from this studio, i doubt they will let it go.

[JU_88]

About SH5: i think that it can be, because what other games Ubisoft Romania are doing? As far as i know its Chessmaster and Blazing Angels series and there were sequels to both of those released lately. Besides - Silent Hunter is the biggest title from this studio, i doubt they will let it go.

Agreed, so long as SH4 wasnt a comercial flop the franchise will live to fight another day.

[Capt. Shark Bait]

DX10 will not run on Windows XP so SH V will not run at all!

there's talk of DX10 for XP coming out sometime next year, if you can believe theinquirer

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40913

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35110

and then there's this: http://www.technospot.net/blogs/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp-from-alky-project/

[i_b_spectre]

If I understand it correctly, Microsoft also "acquired" the rights to OpenGL. Originally MS indicated DX10 would not be possible outside of Vista due to virtual machine constraints unavailable in the XP operating system. Then, it was reported, they made certain concessions allegedly because of Nvidia's inability to meet certain DX10 requirements, thus the door was opened for 3rd party programmers to devise an XP compatible rendition of DX10. Either way, DX or OpenGL, MS is in the driver's seat and any decision will most certainly be to the advantage of the corporation's ledger. I would be surprised if they adopted a position that did not require the adoption of Vista to receive the supposed benefit offered by DX10.

[hobnailboot]

I think sh5 has to be in the atlantic, that is where the interest is. just look at the viewing numbers on this site.

[mrbeast]

I think, realistically, if Ubisoft were to think about releasing another SH ie SH5 then it would be one of three options:

a. A return to the Atlantic U boat war with SH4 like graphics and maybe a few other gameplay improvements but basically an updated SH3.

b. A return to the Atlantic or the Pacific but with the emphasis on allied or Japanese subs.

c. A totally new period either Cold War, Modern or World War 1.

I think that options a and c are the most realistic. Personally I think that Ubisoft/developers will be looking towards making a break with the past SH games so I think that opion c will be most likely to be done and probably with WW1 as the setting.

But this may all be moot. The primary motivating factor for Ubisoft will always be if the balance of money invested to profits is a favourable one. So if you want SH5 tell all your friends to buy SH3 and SH4 and you will get SH5.

[Capt. Shark Bait]

i would like to see "c", but set about the time of the Berlin Crisis that went "bad". there'ld still be diesel/electric boats and very few SSN/SSBN, which would be available as the war progressed but technologically relevant for the mid-late 50s

[KrvKpt. Falke]

Fresh news: http://guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=5946

Looks like there arent any plans for SH5 in near future:down:

[dcb]

Fresh news: http://guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=5946

Looks like there arent any plans for SH5 in near future:down:

Though I'm skeptic about SH5 myself, I wouldn't say this particular piece of news is highly relevant for the future of the SH5 franchise. The Clancy game is an air combat game, and in the past the UBI studio in Bucharest has developed simultaneously a sub sim - SH4 - and an air combat game - Blazing Angels 2. So it proved it can do both genres at the same time, well enough. But CAN is completely different from WILL, I agree. Let's see what the future will bring.:hmm: