How to turn off sub reflections?

[onelifecrisis]

The title says it all really... can someone tell me how to disable the reflection of my sub in the water? And please tell me - if I do this, will it also disable the reflections of other (AI controlled) friendly u-boats?

Thanks!

[AdlerGrosmann]

:hmm: Sub reflections?....I don't think is possible for that unless you tweak file it or something..

[TheDarkWraith]

The title says it all really... can someone tell me how to disable the reflection of my sub in the water? And please tell me - if I do this, will it also disable the reflections of other (AI controlled) friendly u-boats?

Thanks!

for which sub? You'll have to use a tweak file to do it (well the easy way at least). What reflections do you want to turn off (hull, Turm, scopes, etc.)?

[AdlerGrosmann]

I've had that problem alot of times when rough seas,but I just leave it alone.

[onelifecrisis]

for which sub? You'll have to use a tweak file to do it (well the easy way at least). What reflections do you want to turn off (hull, Turm, scopes, etc.)?

I've got mini tweaker, I just don't know what to change.

I'd like to turn them all off I guess! Will it affect other uboats?

[onelifecrisis]

I've had that problem alot of times when rough seas,but I just leave it alone.

Good for you, but I'm a nitpicky graphics whore ;)

[ref]

(I think they introduced this problem by "fixing" the missing conning tower reflections) but Kpt. Lehmann more or less told him that they don't have time for graphical stuff, so I'd rather just disable the relfection altogether seeing as the only time I see it is the only time it shouldn't be visible. :roll:

We didn't "introduce" anything, and there where no missing conning tower reflections, just the periscope and Sergbuto did the fix a long time ago, please be more carefull and try to investigate a bit before saying someone made a bug...
And please post a screenshoot of your problem, the graphic problem you mentioned has nothing to do eith reflections viewed from the conning tower.

Ref

[onelifecrisis]

(I think they introduced this problem by "fixing" the missing conning tower reflections) but Kpt. Lehmann more or less told him that they don't have time for graphical stuff, so I'd rather just disable the relfection altogether seeing as the only time I see it is the only time it shouldn't be visible. :roll:

We didn't "introduce" anything, and there where no missing conning tower reflections, just the periscope and Sergbuto did the fix a long time ago, please be more carefull and try to investigate a bit before saying someone made a bug...
And please post a screenshoot of your problem, the graphic problem you mentioned has nothing to do eith reflections viewed from the conning tower.

Ref

Try to investigate a bit?

I've been searching/reading these forums for several hours a day for months now. As much as you'd like to think that finding out what fixes what and what breaks what is as easy as hitting "search" the reality for newcomers like me is a far cry from that. Generally I find nothing at all or hundreds of posts including multiple conflicting opinions on any given topic. I am pretty sure GWX introduced this but if I'm wrong, consider me corrected on my facts - but not my approach to finding them.

[onelifecrisis]

Okie dokie... a little searching (I'm now an expert forum searcher) reveals that Sergbuto did a mod called U-boat Reflections V2 in 2005, which added various reflections, including the conning tower and periscopes, thus creating the problem you refer to. It is my assumption that this mod, or a version of it, is included in GWX, since GWX also adds these reflections.

Am I barking up the wrong tree here, or is it in fact you, Ref, who needs to do a little more research before posting?

[TheDarkWraith]

Open the file in question in a hex editor and search for WaterReflections. Under that will be a sub-heading called 'Reflections'. Change the byte from 1 to 0 to disable that relfection that the ID refers to. If you set all these to 0 then you disable the reflections.

[onelifecrisis]

Open the file in question in a hex editor and search for WaterReflections. Under that will be a sub-heading called 'Reflections'. Change the byte from 1 to 0 to disable that relfection that the ID refers to. If you set all these to 0 then you disable the reflections.

Ah, okay, thanks for the help (time for me to try to work out how to use this free hex editor thing :-?)

Cheers Racerboy

[Kpt. Lehmann]

(I think they introduced this problem by "fixing" the missing conning tower reflections) but Kpt. Lehmann more or less told him that they don't have time for graphical stuff, so I'd rather just disable the relfection altogether seeing as the only time I see it is the only time it shouldn't be visible. :roll:

We didn't "introduce" anything, and there where no missing conning tower reflections, just the periscope and Sergbuto did the fix a long time ago, please be more carefull and try to investigate a bit before saying someone made a bug...
And please post a screenshoot of your problem, the graphic problem you mentioned has nothing to do eith reflections viewed from the conning tower.

Ref

I am pretty sure GWX introduced this but if I'm wrong, consider me corrected on my facts - but not my approach to finding them.

Not only are you wrong about the problem you claim was introduced by GWX... but you have misquoted what was said.

If you need shovel to dig yourself out of the hole you've made... just let us know. We'll be happy to give you one.
Think before you post.

[onelifecrisis]

(I think they introduced this problem by "fixing" the missing conning tower reflections) but Kpt. Lehmann more or less told him that they don't have time for graphical stuff, so I'd rather just disable the relfection altogether seeing as the only time I see it is the only time it shouldn't be visible. :roll:

We didn't "introduce" anything, and there where no missing conning tower reflections, just the periscope and Sergbuto did the fix a long time ago, please be more carefull and try to investigate a bit before saying someone made a bug...
And please post a screenshoot of your problem, the graphic problem you mentioned has nothing to do eith reflections viewed from the conning tower.

Ref

I am pretty sure GWX introduced this but if I'm wrong, consider me corrected on my facts - but not my approach to finding them.

Not only are you wrong about the problem you claim was introduced by GWX... but you have misquoted what was said.

If you need shovel to dig yourself out of the hole you've made... just let us know. We'll be happy to give you one.
Think before you post.

Misquoted what? I just hit the quote button - I didn't edit it. Are you now saying that the forum quote button is as faulty as my information?

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but as I said and will say again, it's not for lack of trying to find out what the facts are before posting. I never noticed this graphical problem before GWX and seeing as (according to the thread by Sergbuto, and his website, both of which I found thanks to Ref) the reflections in question are not in stock, I think my reasoning was perfectly sound. Furthermore my original comment, as quoted by Ref, was "I think that GWX introduced this problem", and my offense to Refs post was in reaction to his accusation that I had not done enough research, rather than his statement that I had my facts wrong - as I'm sure you'll see if you read my reply.

No need for a shovel as I don't see that I'm in any kind of hole, but if you like to imagine yourself looking down on me, knock yourself out.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

(I think they introduced this problem by "fixing" the missing conning tower reflections) but Kpt. Lehmann more or less told him that they don't have time for graphical stuff, so I'd rather just disable the relfection altogether seeing as the only time I see it is the only time it shouldn't be visible. :roll:

We didn't "introduce" anything, and there where no missing conning tower reflections, just the periscope and Sergbuto did the fix a long time ago, please be more carefull and try to investigate a bit before saying someone made a bug...
And please post a screenshoot of your problem, the graphic problem you mentioned has nothing to do eith reflections viewed from the conning tower.

Ref

I am pretty sure GWX introduced this but if I'm wrong, consider me corrected on my facts - but not my approach to finding them.

Not only are you wrong about the problem you claim was introduced by GWX... but you have misquoted what was said.

If you need shovel to dig yourself out of the hole you've made... just let us know. We'll be happy to give you one.
Think before you post.

Misquoted what? I just hit the quote button - I didn't edit it. Are you now saying that the forum quote button is as faulty as my information?

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but as I said and will say again, it's not for lack of trying to find out what the facts are before posting. I never noticed this graphical problem before GWX and seeing as (according to the thread by Sergbuto, and his website, both of which I found thanks to Ref) the reflections in question are not in stock, I think my reasoning was perfectly sound. Furthermore my original comment, as quoted by Ref, was "I think that GWX introduced this problem", and my offense to Refs post was in reaction to his accusation that I had not done enough research, rather than his statement that I had my facts wrong - as I'm sure you'll see if you read my reply.

No need for a shovel as I don't see that I'm in any kind of hole, but if you like to imagine yourself looking down on me, knock yourself out.

"Kpt. Lehmann more or less told him that they don't have time for graphical stuff"

Remember that?

Furthermore, its not the first time you've been overly sensitive regarding a posting by GWX devs.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=633495&postcount=12

Or shot your mouth off without thinking:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=633448&postcount=11

No one is looking down on you. We are just responding to thoughtless remarks.
It doesn't matter who or what you are... a whine is just a whine.

[onelifecrisis]

Ah, that misquote. I believe I confused your twice-made comment "dunno if we can do anything about it" in the (apparently mis-titled) thread GWX Scope Reflection (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=120081) with the comment "honestly, the environmental stuff is the least of my concerns... just letting you know" which you sent me via PM at around the same time (in a discussion about a possible fix for an environmental graphical error). Apparently, searching and reading the forums as much as I do on as many issues as I do is proving too much for my memory to handle.

Anyway, it's evident that the real cause for concern is rather GWX-specific, so I'll be careful not to mention the word GWX next time I'm trying to find a fix for something.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Best o' luck to ya lad! If you insist on saying that GWX introduced those problems... You are only twisting words to meet your desires of the moment. As you show your colors here:
Anyway, it's evident that the real cause for concern is rather GWX-specific, so I'll be careful not to mention the word GWX next time I'm trying to find a fix for something.

FACT: The problems you describe are holdovers from STOCK SH3. Just because we modify a file or data set... doesn't mean that we modified everything in that file.

[AdlerGrosmann]

I've had that problem alot of times when rough seas,but I just leave it alone.

Good for you, but I'm a nitpicky graphics whore ;) lol,I'm sure there are plenty out there like you.:roll:

[onelifecrisis]

As you show your colors here:
Anyway, it's evident that the real cause for concern is rather GWX-specific, so I'll be careful not to mention the word GWX next time I'm trying to find a fix for something.

FACT: The problems you describe are holdovers from STOCK SH3. Just because we modify a file or data set... doesn't mean that we modified everything in that file.

When I said that the real cause for concern is GWX-specific I was not referring to the bug; I was referring to the cause of your concerns, namely my accusation that GWX *might* have caused the problem, and as I said I shall be careful in future not to suggest that this is the case, with this problem or any other.

In other words I have vowed to respect the request that both you and ref have made of me in this thread.

Are we clear now?

[onelifecrisis]

Best o' luck to ya lad! If you insist on saying that GWX introduced those problems... You are only twisting words to meet your desires of the moment.
FACT: The problems you describe are holdovers from STOCK SH3. Just because we modify a file or data set... doesn't mean that we modified everything in that file.

I just had to dig this thread up cos I just reinstalled stock (need stock files for a mod I'm working on) and the problem isn't there. Then I installed GWX over stock, and voila - the problem returns.

So, I was right all along! Damn, I don't even know why I listen to you guys.

If you want screenies just see that (correctly named!) "GWX Scope Reflection" thread.

This will likely be ignored but I'll ask anyway - is it going to be fixed in 1.04?

[TarJak]

I would say that Kpt Lehmann's response in the thread you mention stands.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).

[onelifecrisis]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).

Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.

you can try to switch the GWX data with the Stock data. (just the sub file's)
see if that works

[Jimbuna]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.

you can try to switch the GWX data with the Stock data. (just the sub file's)
see if that works

Allow me to give you one small piece of advice........DO NOT SWITCH THE FILES....you will have game problems beyond your imagination :nope:

:up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.
you can try to switch the GWX data with the Stock data. (just the sub file's)
see if that works
Allow me to give you one small piece of advice........DO NOT SWITCH THE FILES....you will have game problems beyond your imagination :nope:

:up:

:hmm: and the other way arround ? GWX files over stock ? :hmm:

[Jimbuna]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.
you can try to switch the GWX data with the Stock data. (just the sub file's)
see if that works
Allow me to give you one small piece of advice........DO NOT SWITCH THE FILES....you will have game problems beyond your imagination :nope:

:up:

:hmm: and the other way arround ? GWX files over stock ? :hmm:

The same either way....lots of incompatabilities :yep:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.
you can try to switch the GWX data with the Stock data. (just the sub file's)
see if that works
Allow me to give you one small piece of advice........DO NOT SWITCH THE FILES....you will have game problems beyond your imagination :nope:

:up:
:hmm: and the other way arround ? GWX files over stock ? :hmm:
The same either way....lots of incompatabilities :yep:

i see i see :-?
gotta stay off them then.

[Jimbuna]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.
you can try to switch the GWX data with the Stock data. (just the sub file's)
see if that works
Allow me to give you one small piece of advice........DO NOT SWITCH THE FILES....you will have game problems beyond your imagination :nope:

:up:
:hmm: and the other way arround ? GWX files over stock ? :hmm:
The same either way....lots of incompatabilities :yep:

i see i see :-?
gotta stay off them then.

It is advisable :yep:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.
you can try to switch the GWX data with the Stock data. (just the sub file's)
see if that works
Allow me to give you one small piece of advice........DO NOT SWITCH THE FILES....you will have game problems beyond your imagination :nope:

:up:
:hmm: and the other way arround ? GWX files over stock ? :hmm:
The same either way....lots of incompatabilities :yep:
i see i see :-?
gotta stay off them then.
It is advisable :yep: learned that the hard way months ago :rotfl:
and still i couldnt figure out why it CTD-ed

[Jimbuna]

i have no problems with GWX. and IF you have that much problems with GWX.
then:
1. dont play it
2. play stock or a other supermod (NYGM or WAC)


WAC is fun, GWX is fun, stock is fun to (for MP game's).
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried WAC but unfortunately my machine can barely handle it. :(

For clarity, I'll say once more: I don't have "that much" problems with GWX - on the contrary, I've sung its praises on several occasions. This is a minor problem that I wanted to fix myself, which is why I started the thread. I just didn't appreciate being flamed by the GWX crew for doing so.
you can try to switch the GWX data with the Stock data. (just the sub file's)
see if that works
Allow me to give you one small piece of advice........DO NOT SWITCH THE FILES....you will have game problems beyond your imagination :nope:

:up:
:hmm: and the other way arround ? GWX files over stock ? :hmm:
The same either way....lots of incompatabilities :yep:
i see i see :-?
gotta stay off them then.
It is advisable :yep: learned that the hard way months ago :rotfl:
and still i couldnt figure out why it CTD-ed

You don't say :hmm:

[onelifecrisis]

Why is it that this thread is starting to remind me of the ignore thread? :hmm: