Hospital Ships (how to)

[brotebjo]

So Admiral Donitz ordered my uboat u-125 to ignore all Geneva Convention rules and sink any and all Hospital ship. What Admiral Donitz doesn't realize that I get penalized for sinking such ships. So how do I edit SH3 and change the renown value of these ships? Is it easy for someone who hasn't done this before? If someone is kind enough to help me out, please leave detailed instructions on how to do it...thanks alot!

[kranz]

Hi
German women and children are killed every day during bandit raids and you are trying to disobey the order?You will be executed after arrival to base.Frankly speaking sinking a hospital ship probably would cause a guilty conscience for a uboat commander.Ubisoft decided to take away a few renown points....

[brotebjo]

Hi
German women and children are killed every day during bandit raids and you are trying to disobey the order?You will be executed after arrival to base.Frankly speaking sinking a hospital ship probably would cause a guilty conscience for a uboat commander.Ubisoft decided to take away a few renown points....

These planned sinks that I want to do will be in response to the Dresden raid...sorry no guilty conscience.

[Safe-Keeper]

In short: Don't do it. I'm guessing the order to sink the hospital ships came as a radio message in-game? In which case it is for flavor only and can be safely ignored. You won't get a renown loss for not obeying.

In short: Don't sink hospital ships, as doing so carries a 10 000 renown penalty. But yes, you can edit their renown rate to 0 or even a positive value and start hunting them.

[Jimbuna]

I'm guessing the order to sink the hospital ships came as a radio message in-game?

Certainly never come across any such message myself :nope:

[brotebjo]

what file whould I edit to change the renown of a hospital ship? Is it in the sea folder?

[Kpt. Lehmann]

These planned sinks that I want to do will be in response to the Dresden raid...sorry no guilty conscience.

Brotebjo, this is not a place for such conversations. If you want to stir up hate. Do it somewhere else.

[brotebjo]

what is your guys problem, I was just joking around. You guys need to realize that it's just a game. And I have no idea where you got the idea that this has to do with hate! All I have to say is wow!

[Dowly]

what is your guys problem, I was just joking around. You guys need to realize that it's just a game. And I have no idea where you got the idea that this has to do with hate! All I have to say is wow!

This is the problem of internet, you really cant tell if someone's joking or not.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

what is your guys problem, I was just joking around. You guys need to realize that it's just a game. And I have no idea where you got the idea that this has to do with hate! All I have to say is wow!

You are right that it is just a game. HOWEVER, a little more thought before you post would be appropriate as well. Making a joke out of such things will offend more than just me. People from all over the world read this forum.

[brotebjo]

what is your guys problem, I was just joking around. You guys need to realize that it's just a game. And I have no idea where you got the idea that this has to do with hate! All I have to say is wow!
This is the problem of internet, you really cant tell if someone's joking or not.


The problem is he accused me of hate, when I'm 100% the opposite. I've spent my whole live reading, collecting, and worshiping the grounds of our beloved veterans. As I'm sure most of the rest of the die hard GWX players. Just because I want to play “total warfare”in a game, I'm accused of spreading hate? So now I've be tagged as some ******* on this forum, and other readers/posters are going to give me less respect now. The sad thing was I was enjoying reading this forum at least 4 times a day and was looking into donating money because I've used it so much. Because of GWX and subsim I've dumped another $500 in to my book collection reading up on the navy side of WWII (I've mostly focused on British land campaigns). Perhaps people need to stop, take a breath, and think before they post negative comments about another user.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Cross post.

[gsc67]

Stop acting like children... unless you are one. Then be a kid for as long as you can ! :up: .. Finally loaded this GWX up... Love it ! Unreal job gents ! As you can tell Im new to these boards... but Im an old hag over at (cough) UbI. While I have one of the Co-Designers her... I would like to know what the probabilty rate is ... when you guys designed the add on, during a convoy that 3 Whale Ships would be in the Convoy with many other large Cargos and Tankers ? Thanks !

[Safe-Keeper]

You guys need to realize that it's just a game. New to the boards, I see:p.

Discussions on ethics tend to grow far more serious than talks about conduct in a make-belief game. Give it a few posts and people will tell you that in war you need to kill with extreme prejudice or be ready to convert to Islam... or something like that. Anyways, trust me, discussions on what to sink and not sink are a big no-no here:rotfl:.

Finally loaded this GWX up... Love it ! Unreal job gents !And it ain't over yet. First there'll be another, final installment of GWX, and then at some point I'll finish my NorOps project and things will get even better - not to mention other modders that will make their work compatible with GWX. My mouth waters. [/shameless promotion]

[Dowly]

what is your guys problem, I was just joking around. You guys need to realize that it's just a game. And I have no idea where you got the idea that this has to do with hate! All I have to say is wow!
This is the problem of internet, you really cant tell if someone's joking or not.

The problem is he accused me of hate, when I'm 100% the opposite. I've spent my whole live reading, collecting, and worshiping the grounds of our beloved veterans. As I'm sure most of the rest of the die hard GWX players. Just because I want to play “total warfare”in a game, I'm accused of spreading hate? So now I've be tagged as some ******* on this forum, and other readers/posters are going to give me less respect now. The sad thing was I was enjoying reading this forum at least 4 times a day and was looking into donating money because I've used it so much. Because of GWX and subsim I've dumped another $500 in to my book collection reading up on the navy side of WWII (I've mostly focused on British land campaigns). Perhaps people need to stop, take a breath, and think before they post negative comments about another user.

After this post, people wont think you're an a-hole because of your Dresden comment, but because of your attitude. :roll:

[kranz]

Hi
I feel guilty because I started this discussion with brotebjo.BUT-if you read my post you would probably understood his joke.Dowly-is you avatar a joke or not?In many countries you would be punished for humilitating animals.It isn't a joke.I agree with Kpt. Lehmann-this thread is not a place to discuss this matter.But shouldn't we discuss the matter that:germans(nazists) should feel guilty for death camps, americans-the hiroshima case etc.No offence-I'm only asking.

[Dowly]

Hi
I feel guilty because I started this discussion with brotebjo.BUT-if you read my post you would probably understood his joke.Dowly-is you avatar a joke or not?In many countries you would be punished for humilitating animals.It isn't a joke.I agree with Kpt. Lehmann-this thread is not a place to discuss this matter.But shouldn't we discuss the matter that:germans(nazists) should feel guilty for death camps, americans-the hiroshima case etc.No offence-I'm only asking.

Like I said, it's his attitude that bugs me. And yes, subjects you mention should be discussed and have already been discussed numerous times here at SubSim, usually ending in an all around flame war.

[bigboywooly]

I would like to know what the probabilty rate is ... when you guys designed the add on, during a convoy that 3 Whale Ships would be in the Convoy with many other large Cargos and Tankers ? Thanks !

The game has an odd way of picking units at random

Sometimes you will get 3 of a ship
Next time none

I recently ran a single mission with a randon convoy group in over 150 times
Some ships seem to spawn nearly every time - The C3 and Kgn for example
Then the game seems to pick ramdomly any units it likes
Usually a variation of tonnage but as I said sometimes I would have 5 colliers in the convoy
Next time no colliers but 4 coastal freighters
And so on

We have renamed the whaler in 1.04 to try and lessen its usage in convoys
Seems to help

Of course the bigger variety of units in a countries roster helps also
Having only 4 tankers can result in the same one showing over and over

( Hint there Iambecome - release the mod lol )

In 1.04 I have also reclassified a couple of ships so they will turn up only when that type is called for - and as the countries in question have two of these types it leads to a certain amount of randomization of the more specific units
Ammunitionship\collier etc

Hope that helps explain it

[gsc67]

Yes.... You answered that to perfection. I thank you for taking the time to explain it. I am playing in a realism based leauge and one player seemed to keep having exdordinary large numbers of large tankers and large merchants along with 2 and 3 whale ships in with its convoys... of course he was copy and pasteing his results and we quickly caught on. I can understand hitting one of these convoys once every 4 to 6 patrols...if lucky. But not all the time. Thank you !:up: ( Hey !! Im now a Nub ! Im moving up in the world )

[Jimbuna]

( Hey !! Im now a Nub ! Im moving up in the world )

:roll: .......................:up: