[TEC] XXI

[lutzow]

Here is my XXI:
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7333/xxicu2.jpg

He is dressed in Modern Type XXI Skin maded by Type941.
As you can see there is no emblems, no radio loop antenna and no
water reflections.
What to do to make them all visible;) ?

[danlisa]

Are you using GWX?

The skin, made by Type941, is not compatible with GWX. The reason you don't have reflections & the RDF Loop is because you have broken it by enabling that skin.

You will never have a fully functioning XXI while using skins that are not GWX compatible, you are enabling a DAT file that is not designed to be used with GWX.

[The Noob]

Thats only correct if you overwrite the dat files. This is NOT neccesary. First, extract the TGA's of the modded skin with Chessmaster 10 Dat textures extractor, and then, repack them into the GWX files. Here is the link to Chessmaster 10 Dat textures extractor, for the second time today... :know:

ftp://ftp.ubi.com/us/games/chessmast...TexExtract.zip

Go to Load a chess set, select the dat file of the sub you wish to modify, click on replace textures, and navigate to the folder where your TGA is stored. There should be no other files in this folder. I dont think it matters but i always used a empty folder to be sure.

Looks like im having a helpful day today... :rotfl:

[lutzow]

Are you using GWX?

The skin, made by Type941, is not compatible with GWX. The reason you don't have reflections & the RDF Loop is because you have broken it by enabling that skin.

You will never have a fully functioning XXI while using skins that are not GWX compatible, you are enabling a DAT file that is not designed to be used with GWX.
Ok - now everything worx fine
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7648/sh3img1382007153744828ee9.png
Thank you Dan.
My troubles with XXI were caused by installing [not in JSGME !:-?]
mod named just like that:''NSS_Uboat21''.
This mod has overwriting my GWX files without way back!!
Fine skin but no emblem-loop antenna & water reflections.
Then i was trying to install skin mods like:''Type21_ModernHull''
and ''Geheimprojekt_Typ_XXI''. Skins ok - emblem/antenna vanished..
And then i decided to post link on SUBSIM forum.
Forum RuleZ!!:up:
Now i have reinstalled patch GWX1.3 and XXI is ok.
DAN - thank you again - i will help you too,someday.
...and sorry about my english - i learn it myself on the run;)

[lutzow]

Thats only correct if you overwrite the dat files. This is NOT neccesary. First, extract the TGA's of the modded skin with Chessmaster 10 Dat textures extractor, and then, repack them into the GWX files. Here is the link to Chessmaster 10 Dat textures extractor, for the second time today... :know:

ftp://ftp.ubi.com/us/games/chessmast...TexExtract.zip

Go to Load a chess set, select the dat file of the sub you wish to modify, click on replace textures, and navigate to the folder where your TGA is stored. There should be no other files in this folder. I dont think it matters but i always used a empty folder to be sure.

Looks like im having a helpful day today... :rotfl:

...that is god to me Noob:up:
I want to go with your instructionZ but the link to Chessmaster iZ dead.
Could you show me the other way to thiZ prog?
GreetZ

[Paajtor]

I think Timetraveller's SH3-Unpacker can do the same...I don't have a link, but it should be easy to find (see stickies in mod-section).

[Steel_Tomb]

ALLLAAARRMMM!!!!! Jaggies!!! lol

[lutzow]

ALLLAAARRMMM!!!!! Jaggies!!! lol
???

[Anvart]

I think Timetraveller's SH3-Unpacker can do the same...I don't have a link, but it should be easy to find (see stickies in mod-section).
http://www.delraydepot.com/tt/sh3.htm

[lutzow]

I think Timetraveller's SH3-Unpacker can do the same...I don't have a link, but it should be easy to find (see stickies in mod-section).
http://www.delraydepot.com/tt/sh3.htm
Thank you Anvart;)

[Steel_Tomb]

ALLLAAARRMMM!!!!! Jaggies!!! lol ???

you've got loads of jagged edges, get some AA on. Force it on through your gpu control panel. even if its just 2x it will make a bit difference.

[lutzow]

I think Timetraveller's SH3-Unpacker can do the same...I don't have a link, but it should be easy to find (see stickies in mod-section).
Thank you Paajtor - it worx;)

[lutzow]

ALLLAAARRMMM!!!!! Jaggies!!! lol ???

you've got loads of jagged edges, get some AA on. Force it on through your gpu control panel. even if its just 2x it will make a bit difference.
There was already set 2x - now i changed to 4x and will try to see
change and will post the screen - thanx for advice;).

[Steel_Tomb]

I'm used to 8 or 16x AA lol so I'm probably just been fussy:p

[lutzow]

My comp is too old for those settings...

[nikbear]

I think Timetraveller's SH3-Unpacker can do the same...I don't have a link, but it should be easy to find (see stickies in mod-section). Thank you Paajtor - it worx;)

lutzow,did you get the modern XXI skin working?or the other skin you mentioned in GWX?If so would you please host the fixed GWX compatable versions of them on your FF page,the mere mention of extracting TGA's and packing DAT's makes my mind boggle:doh::oops::88):dead:I'm just about to get a typeXXI and would love to run a GWX compatable skin on it,hope you can help:up:

[lutzow]

I think Timetraveller's SH3-Unpacker can do the same...I don't have a link, but it should be easy to find (see stickies in mod-section). Thank you Paajtor - it worx;)

lutzow,did you get the modern XXI skin working?or the other skin you mentioned in GWX?If so would you please host the fixed GWX compatable versions of them on your FF page,the mere mention of extracting TGA's and packing DAT's makes my mind boggle:doh::oops::88):dead:I'm just about to get a typeXXI and would love to run a GWX compatable skin on it,hope you can help:up:
Yo man - i did it and i have extracted two sets of skins from modes:
''Geheimprojekt_Type_XXI'' and ''Modern_Skin_Type_XXI'' ... but i have encountered a problem with those free tga's...After enabling
them in JSGME they don't load...So i try to rename them like in other
mod skins and now it looks like that:
My pathway in JSGME:
GeheimprojektTypXXI - extracted\data\Textures\TNormal\tex
and names of tga's:
conning_stuff
NSS_Uboat21_Deck
NSS_Uboat21_Hull
NSS_Uboat21_UFlak
After starting the game loaded is only...conning_stuff - the rest of my
XXI is dressed in stock GWX grey colours...
Did i missed something? And maybe i was write wrong names - i suppose
that this is a reason. But i don't know what names to write...
I checked skin maded by Fubar - skin is already in tga's:
Typ 21_20mm_UFlak
Typ 21_Deck
Typ 21_Hull
conning_stuff
- those names are writed automatically after unpacking by SH3Unpacker_build143 which i used...but that named TGA's are not working on Geheimprojekt_type_XXI. I don't checked Modernskin...
Could someone resolve this small pro?
What are the correct names for tga's in skin type XXI?
GreetZ:-?

[Paajtor]

I think Fubar made a XXI-skin that is compatible with GWX (probably the one used by GWX)...maybe he can help.

[lutzow]

Yes - but Fubar leaves us for vacation...

[silentwayIII]

Lutzow, My favorite uboat is the XXI and I would like to try the following skins: type 941 and Geheimprojet_Typ_XXI WITH NYGM. Where can I get them?

I have tried the low rez skins that comes with NYGM and its just not that good besides the fact that I lose the rotating antenna.

Have tried Fubars XXI skin (the one that comes with GWX) the hull and conning tower work, but the turrets of the AA cannons retain the low rez skin from before. Can you help me?

[lutzow]

Lutzow, My favorite uboat is the XXI and I would like to try the following skins: type 941 and Geheimprojet_Typ_XXI WITH NYGM. Where can I get them?

I have tried the low rez skins that comes with NYGM and its just not that good besides the fact that I lose the rotating antenna.

Have tried Fubars XXI skin (the one that comes with GWX) the hull and conning tower work, but the turrets of the AA cannons retain the low rez skin from before. Can you help me?
Yes i want help but i can't at this moment...i'm waiting for help with
placing correct names into extracted tga's - just read my posts above...
Now i got three sets of extracted skins but can't install them...

[TheDarkWraith]

Yes i want help but i can't at this moment...i'm waiting for help with
placing correct names into extracted tga's - just read my posts above...
Now i got three sets of extracted skins but can't install them...

Lutzow, my friend, may I help you out in some way with your current problem? The extracted skins you have must have the same name as the component replacing in the DAT file (which sounds like the hull skin) and the ID of the original 'skin' along with the parent ID of the original 'skin'. I don't use tools or such to change skins, I cut them out with my hex editor and paste in new ones with the hex editor changing IDs as necessary.

[danlisa]

There are 2 U-Boats in SH3 that are a PITA.:lol:

The Type 2 & Type 21.

The tga files need to be repacked into the DAT file for them to be used in game.;) It will not work through the textures folder.

Open the Type 21 dat file with Pack3D and expand the Textures folder, shown in the left window. Highlight the TGA and then choose IMPORT from the right hand side, then direct it to your extracted TGA file, click OK. You have just imported the new texture into the DAT file. Wash, Rinse & Repeat.

WORK FROM A COPY! MAKE SURE THE TGA FILES HAVE THE SAME NAMES!

:up:

[lutzow]

There are 2 U-Boats in SH3 that are a PITA.:lol:

The Type 2 & Type 21.

The tga files need to be repacked into the DAT file for them to be used in game.;) It will not work through the textures folder.

Open the Type 21 dat file with Pack3D and expand the Textures folder, shown in the left window. Highlight the TGA and then choose IMPORT from the right hand side, then direct it to your extracted TGA file, click OK. You have just imported the new texture into the DAT file. Wash, Rinse & Repeat.

WORK FROM A COPY! MAKE SURE THE TGA FILES HAVE THE SAME NAMES!

:up:
Yo Dan - you said:''Open the Type 21 dat file...'' - i understand that i have to open it in my game installed folder ?
D:\SH3\data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat21

And import textures from Geheimprojekt mod to overwrite existing files in
game folder in DAT file? So there will not be JSGME using?

[danlisa]

Copy the DAT file from D:\SH3\data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat21 to another location, just to be safe.;)

Then open the copied DAT with Pack3D and follow my instructions earlier.
I assume in the Geheimprojekt mod there are TGA files? If so, you only need to IMPORT them (into the copied DAT file) by using Pack3D to swap the external TGA files with the ones inside the DAT.:yep:

Once the copied DAT file contains the TGA's (aka Skin files) that you want to use with GWX, create the following folder structure:

Lutzows XXI\data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat21\

Now put your new/adjusted DAT file in the NSS_Uboat21 folder you just created and you have a JSGME ready Mod.:up:

[lutzow]

Copy the DAT file from D:\SH3\data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat21 to another location, just to be safe.;)

Then open the copied DAT with Pack3D and follow my instructions earlier.
I assume in the Geheimprojekt mod there are TGA files? If so, you only need to IMPORT them (into the copied DAT file) by using Pack3D to swap the external TGA files with the ones inside the DAT.:yep:

Once the copied DAT file contains the TGA's (aka Skin files) that you want to use with GWX, create the following folder structure:

Lutzows XXI\data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat21\

Now put your new/adjusted DAT file in the NSS_Uboat21 folder you just created and you have a JSGME ready Mod.:up:

YES - it's now simple and clear!
Thank you Dan - great solution for my pro.
I will make three different skins and after testing i will place them on my FFpage for each Kaleun.
FORUM RULEZ!!!

[lutzow]

Hey Dan - FIASCO!!! - when i try to open DAT file [from GWX XXI stock]
with a PACK 3D [from your FF site] it's just...HANG'ON and i must turn it off from Windows panel controls...
Then i'm trying to do the same operation with SH3 Unpacker - but there is
only message about permission needed to continue...
It seems to be protected by Fubar or GWX team...
What to do now?:-?

P.S. What about NewSils file on your FileFront site?

[danlisa]

I think you need to update Java. Pack3d uses it. Also try using version 2.

Works for me.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/P3D.jpg

[danlisa]

P.S. What about NewSils file on your FileFront site?

You mean the password protected ones.:rotfl: :rotfl:

[lutzow]

P.S. What about NewSils file on your FileFront site?

You mean the password protected ones.:rotfl: :rotfl:

Yes - :rotfl: - i downloaded them two times:rotfl: - you know - for sure!
There seems to be fine stuff;) - mlask mlask - but there is needed a WORD which i don't know.
Maybe you could whisper a little word on my PM?
[Its a joke] But what about them?

[bigboywooly]

I have those sils
Then I would as they for 1.04
LMAO

[danlisa]

Just all don't go running to my FF account FFS.

First they're password protected, Second they're no longer there.:rotfl: :rotfl:

[lutzow]

Just all don't go running to my FF account FFS.

First they're password protected, Second they're no longer there.:rotfl: :rotfl:

Now i can sleep well;)

[lutzow]

Yo Dan - it don't worx - my new istalled Java version: jre1.6.0_01.
Now Pack 3D is working ok but he doesn't unpacking the DAT file...
I'm leaving now this work - maybe there is someone more talented than me...Shame.:oops:
I'm uploading all three skins for XXI to my Filefront site...
Filename:''3xXXIskin-extracted'' - and there are 3x skin after extracting
from orginal files...Orginal files you can probably find at Terrapin site -UBRSDLC.