[REL] New Map Labels 1.1

[Jace11]

Map Labels 1.3 [New Version updated 29 July 15:15 GMT]

New map labels... 75+ new lables for Straits, Gulfs, Islands, Passages around the Pacific theatre. Made to be identical to existing labels on the game map.

Can be used with JSGME ( I think)...

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6129/sh4img2872007165946734vz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Solomons, Philippines and Sunda islands included, you can also find Bungo Pete's hunting ground more easily!

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7073/sh4img287200717035484ep6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Many small passages and straits added.

New Version (1.3) Download link: http://www.speedyshare.com/977303658.html

Have fun etc,

Jace

P.S If you think of an important label that needs including, please post it here..
Very small islands are not worth it as the label will much bigger than the island and will look a bit silly - while the alternative of reducing lable size has other problems. Large Islands, Gulfs and Straits can generally be added easily. Not Ports, these are added via other layers, eg. Truk, though an Island group is a port in Tater's layer, and so is easily visible and doesn't need an extra label.

UPDATE 1.3 - Correct a typo (Bougainville - oops!) added Caroline Islands, Morotai, Quelpart, Ceylon and more.. fixed scaling problems with very large lables. In 1.2 I also added another 10 lables, including Kurile Islands, Karafuto, Admiralty Islands, Bay of Bengal, Tsugaru Strait and changed some of the older lables too..

[Ducimus]

Awesome work, how now we can acutally find (or reference to others where to find) stuff! :up:

[sqk7744]

Wonderful!!! :up:

Thanks Jace11

[Jmack]

this one is great


thanks

[EAF274 Johan]

Thank you!
I couldn't bear the spelling errors on the game map anymore :up:

[Digital_Trucker]

:up: Most excellent work!

[CaptainCox]

Brillant mod, cheers man :up:

[Canonicus]

Thanks! ...certainly adds to the "Immersion Factor" when you can use a chart that's labeled accurately! :yep:

[Banquet]

Brilliant, I've wondered if something like this could be done. Really adds to the immersion to know the names of the area's you're sailing past. Previously I'd had an atlas next to the computer. Thanks Jace :)

[tater]

Awesome work.

I will tweak my campaign stuff so it doesn't duplicate anything that you've done better.

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tater

[switch.dota]

Really awsome stuff, man! :yep: Great job! :up:

[Bluesub 6]

Very nice:rock:

Thanks Jace11.

[Bando]

Thanks Jace, awesome work :up: :up:

[wovik]

Great work.:up:

Sure beats dragging out my atlas to locate places!

Jack

[Fearless]

Top stuff Jace :rock:

[Skipbo]

I really appreciate your doing this mod! Will add a lot to the simulation for me for sure.

Thanks! ..............Jim :up:

[Sailor Steve]

Outstanding!:sunny:

[Spruence M]

Good Stuff. Thanks for your time

[Payoff]

Time to put away the atlas and start sinkin stuff!
Thanks. :up:

[leovampire]

now just have to update airbase nav mod LOL!

[R48]

Thank you very much!

[ReallyDedPoet]

Very nice work here:up::up:


RDP

[Bando]

now just have to update airbase nav mod LOL!

He Dave, this is not compatible??

[leovampire]

I just looked at the file and nothing touches my mod just assumed and you know how that breaks down LOL!!!

[nematode]

Thanks Jace, truly awesome, much needed map lovin :)

My comments. Forgive me, I am a map wh0re as you will see....

Bougainville has a typo that needs fixing.

"The Slot" while nobody's official placename, would be a nice & colorful addition.

A label for Milne Bay at the eastern end of New Guinea would be helpful, since it becomes subtender-replenishment base. Likewise for Morotai, the round-ish island off the northern tip of Halmahera.

Suggest a label for "Ceylon", old name for Sri Lanka. While I doubt we'll ever get that far west in a sub, Nagumo's six carriers visited there in 1942.

"Christmas Island" (a dot island south of Java) would be a nice label to add. Its port is called "The Settlement", so a map label would clarify things. Christmas Island is significant because of the March '42 Japanese invasion and USS Seawolf skipper Fearless Freddy Warder's attack there.

"Sumbawa" and "Sumba" recommended replacement spelling for "Soembawa" and "Soemba". These are islands just east of Java.

Recommend a label for "Bonin Islands" for the chain that includes Chichijima, Hahajma, Iwo Jima, etc.

In the Korea Straight, it'd be nice to see a label for "Tsushima Island". Also "Quelpart Island" (the old name of Cheju-Do island), a tip of the hat to George Street and Ned Beach who werre awarded the MoH and Navy Cross respectively, for actions there.

Finally, it would be nice to see a label for Wake Island, since there never was more than a very basic facility there. By all rights the huge berths plus overhead crane objects at Wake should be deleted :)

[tater]

Some of the smaller islands can be labeled with null 2D map objects with a title (like the ports have, only no facility is required). You pick no 3D object, and use the "none" 2d object.

Deleting the port objects is also possible, I did that with Midway.

[nematode]

Yeah, I've done null objects in my own version of LOC for Kwajalein, Jaluit, Betio, Roi/Namur, Attu, Kiska and the Shortlands. It works, but I can't say that I'm all that satisfied with the way it looks.

I thought of another place for Jaces NMS file.

Staring Bay, which is located near Kendari in the Celebes. Staring Bay was used as an anchorage for Nagumo's carriers during the Java campaign, the raid on Darwin, and the Indian Ocean raid.

[Drebbel]

I think I am going to install this mod, will be my first mod for SH4.

Are people still working on this mod ?

[Jace11]

yes still working on it...

Will try and implement some of nematodes fixes, sorry about the typo...btw

Bonin's will go in, but Milne Bay gets a big "anchor" lable once the tender arrives and that occurs at all zoom levels so won't include that.

Staring Bay - will do.
Ceylon- will do.
Christmas Island - very small but will look at it.. unlikely though..

I looked at Tsushima, its bigger, but not sure I could get a label on it..

Quelpart - no idea where that it.. will search on wiki

wake has a lable in my game??

I did Sumba and Sumbawa like that, then lane or gerrit on ubi forums said that "soe" was historically correct - like in soerabaja - Frankly I don't know which is more correct..?

[Jace11]

cant find staring bay....

where is it...

anyone know... a link to a map would help

don't worry think I found it, its too small to label properly..

[Fearless]

Great Mod Jace. Would it be possible to add the name to the Caroline Islands?

[Jace11]

Good point - will do...

[ReDRuM71]

Thanks for the mod. Talk about immersion, Now I dont have to minimize Sh4 and use an on-line atlas.:damn: Kinda takes ya out of the the game if ya know what I mean.

[nematode]

Jace sorry about sending you on a goose chase to places that are too small to label, since I've never done any messing around with those dds'es I had no idea what was do-able and what was not.



Quelpart - no idea where that it.. will search on wiki.

It's the island thats WSW of Tsushima island in Korea Straight, at 126.33E 33.19N
but if Tsushima Island's too small to label, Quelpart will be too.

did Sumba and Sumbawa like that, then lane or gerrit on ubi forums said that "soe" was historically correct - like in soerabaja - Frankly I don't know which is more correct..?

From my point of view, the SH4 map is intended to represent an English language map from 65 years ago, so we have Formosa and anglicized names of asian cities and Pacific islands that would have made sense to a sub skipper but no longer appear that way on modern maps.

In the cases of Sumba and Sumbawa, that's how they appear on English language maps today, and as far as I am aware, the way that they would have appeared on a chart on a US sub 65 years ago. The "soe's" would be the Dutch spellings for those places, so they're not historically incorrect, but neither are they suitable (IMO) for the SH4 map.

[Canonicus]

From my point of view, the SH4 map is intended to represent an English language map from 65 years ago, so we have Formosa and anglicized names of asian cities and Pacific islands that would have made sense to a sub skipper but no longer appear that way on modern maps.


I agree...historically correct...is the way to go here.

....not politically correct.

[Tigrone]

No one else seems to have a problem, so I'm stumped. When I try to open online or download and open, I get an error message that the file is corrupt or invalid. I have pretty much ever zip utility--7z, WinZip, and WRAR--and none will open it. Any ideas?

Opps, got it!

Never mind. Got it. It said it was invalid and corrupt, but It opened OK with 7z anyway. Very strange are the computer's ways.

This is a very fine mod. Very nice, indeed. I never did like Jawas.

[Fearless]

now just have to update airbase nav mod LOL!

He Dave, this is not compatible??

I just installed it on top of Leo's map with no probs whatsoever.

[Fearless]

Here is a great link mentioned in one of the posts on this forum.

Historical Maps (http://historicals.ncd.noaa.gov/historicals/histmap.asp)

Type in the Keywords field... Malaysia and that'll bring up "INDIAN OCEAN INCLUDING AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND AND MALAYSIA" Map created in 1941. That'll show the names in historical form :)

[Jace11]

Yeah, I know about that site... :) I posted in it in this thread..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=119187

Thing is they are big files... after decompressing they are 1/2 a GB..., but superb detail.. I use one as the map on my table in the control room.. the texture is 21MB after I compressed and cropped it.

You are right, they are very good, I'm on dial-up but I can download a sid file as I have the program to decompress them. I will maybe have at look at the one you mentioned..

it may help clear up some of the problems with nomenclature

[Jace11]

ok downloading now... should take me 10-20 min (I really need broadband but I'm moving in few weeks).

Those of you who inspected my files may have noted that I included a file W_minefield.dds. This was going to be a generic minefield warning message that appears on high zoom. As you can set labels to have dates, then you can make the danger-minefield message appear where a minefield is - at the right time..

I tried it but found it to clutter the map at high zooms, and the colour (red) clashed with the map tool lines.

Initially I set the lables to appear a few months after the minefield, and of course left some minefields unlabeled..hehe but I don't know - it would be in conflict with modded minefield layers etc.. so I decided against it..

[Fearless]

Yeah, I know about that site... :) I posted in it in this thread..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=119187

Thing is they are big files... after decompressing they are 1/2 a GB..., but superb detail.. I use one as the map on my table in the control room.. the texture is 21MB after I compressed and cropped it.

You are right, they are very good, I'm on dial-up but I can download a sid file as I have the program to decompress them. I will maybe have at look at the one you mentioned..

it may help clear up some of the problems with nomenclature

Oops!! I forgot you posted that very link :oops: But all things aside, the job on the map labels you've done so far is awesome. I just remembered having that link myself and seeing how 'names were spelled' came into the conversation, I thought I'd bring that link up :)

[nematode]

Earlier I wrote:


In the cases of Sumba and Sumbawa, that's how they appear on English language maps today, and as far as I am aware, the way that they would have appeared on a chart on a US sub 65 years ago. The "soe's" would be the Dutch spellings for those places, so they're not historically incorrect, but neither are they suitable (IMO) for the SH4 map.

Since I wrote that, I did some more digging and found that Samuel Eliot Morison, the granddaddy of US Pac War historians, called them Soembawa etc in his 15 volume 1945 history. That's definitive enough for me, so I'll retract my request for a re-spelling on them, they're good as is.

[Canonicus]

Earlier I wrote:


In the cases of Sumba and Sumbawa, that's how they appear on English language maps today, and as far as I am aware, the way that they would have appeared on a chart on a US sub 65 years ago. The "soe's" would be the Dutch spellings for those places, so they're not historically incorrect, but neither are they suitable (IMO) for the SH4 map.

Since I wrote that, I did some more digging and found that Samuel Eliot Morison, the granddaddy of US Pac War historians, called them Soembawa etc in his 15 volume 1945 history. That's definitive enough for me, so I'll retract my request for a re-spelling on them, they're good as is.

All's that tells me is...he decided to use the "dutch" spelling instead...
The real question is...would that be the correct spelling used on naval charts used by the pacific submarine force during WWII?....probably not.

[Fearless]

Earlier I wrote:


In the cases of Sumba and Sumbawa, that's how they appear on English language maps today, and as far as I am aware, the way that they would have appeared on a chart on a US sub 65 years ago. The "soe's" would be the Dutch spellings for those places, so they're not historically incorrect, but neither are they suitable (IMO) for the SH4 map.

Since I wrote that, I did some more digging and found that Samuel Eliot Morison, the granddaddy of US Pac War historians, called them Soembawa etc in his 15 volume 1945 history. That's definitive enough for me, so I'll retract my request for a re-spelling on them, they're good as is.

All's that tells me is...he decided to use the "dutch" spelling instead...
The real question is...would that be the correct spelling used on naval charts used by the pacific submarine force during WWII?....probably not.

Well seeing that we're getting way too deep into this spelling debate, If you're referring to Indonesia and surrounds, it was called the Dutch East Indies afterall back in WW2 so the Map should reflect such. Hence the Dutch spelling is the correct way.

To me I don't give a hoot how it's spelled, having more labels than the original SH4 map is a bonus on its own.

[kaliber7]

Excellent and useful mod.
Thankyou for your time and effort.

[Nokia]

That's awsome! :rock:

[JoeCorrado]

The download link is not working. Does anybody have acopy of the file that they could share?

[geosub1978]

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7073/sh4img287200717035484ep6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

An out of topic question....

How can I apply the ruler together with compass as shown above??:down:

[longam]

Flipping open the compus turns on the nav map tool helper.

[Able72]

anyone know if this is compatable with 1.5?

[GeoffBelding]

Can someone please send me the file or tell me where it is now to be found?

Many Thanks

Geoff

geoff.belding @ btinternet.com (no spaces!)

[bammac3]

I would also like to get this file, if there is an alternate way.

Bam

[Capt. Shark Bait]

here's the 3rd looking for a file he didn't know existed and nor can't find it:-?

[fireship4]

Looking for it too. Speedyshare link is down. Yes Im wondering where to get that bigger compass model too...

[JREX53]

To All,

I don't have Map Labels 1.1, but I have uploaded Map Labels 1.3 to
Filefront. Here is the link, it is a 875kb file.

http://files.filefront.com/Map+Labels+13zip/;10061427;/fileinfo.html

Hope this Helps someone!!

[lancerr]

Tryting to install Map Lables 1.3 using JGME lists a bunch of .dds files which will be overwritten -

is this compatible with TMO? Will anything be screwed up if I overwrite this in TMO?

[Captain Dave]

Thanks Jim. Will install later, time for bed.:zzz:

[JREX53]

lancerr,

New map labels... 75+ new labels for Straits, Gulfs, Islands, Passages around the Pacific theatre. Made to be identical to existing labels on the game map.

And by reading the "Readme" File, it seems to indicate it will change a bunch
of dds files. Is it compatible with 1.4 or 1.5? I don't know, as I don't have
it installed.

[GeoffBelding]

Thanks Jim, you're a super shipmate!

Geoff

[bammac3]

Installed today. I dont think a map can ever hold too much info.

Great work!

Bam

[MrSargyano]

Thanks for the repost JREX53.

Regards,
Mr Sargyano

[TopcatWA]

I have found that the download link has deleted the file. Perhaps it should be resubmitted?? :-?

[Archive1]

Yep. Still deleted from the download link. Anybody got it that could get in it on Filefront?

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I've been putting up a lot of mods lately, but I looked and I don't have this one. Never downloaded it, as it came out during my homeless phase.

Sorry.

[Aniuk]

Yep. Still deleted from the download link. Anybody got it that could get in it on Filefront?

:damn: Have look at posting #55 in this thread. Just downloaded the file. but is it compatible with TMO and RSRD SHIV 1.5 I don't know :damn:

But the download is here, txs to JREX53:up:

kind regards,

Aniuk

[Ivan Putski]

I just installed Maps+ Labels 1.3 into my mods folder, SHIV Gold 1.5, works a treat, thanks for the link. Puts:up:

[Patchman123]

Nice mod. Could you maybe add New Caledonia? New Caledonia was an important naval base during World War II and was vital to allied operations.
During World War II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II), the The French South Pacific colonies of New Caledonia, French Polynesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Polynesia) and the New Hebrides (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hebrides) joined the Free French Forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_French_Forces). The South Pacific colonies would become vital Allied (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_II) bases in the Pacific Ocean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Ocean).
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Caledonia.
http://www.navsource.org/Naval/1942.htm
It says here that on March 12, 1942 Allied forces established a base on New Caledonia to stop the Japanese advance in the Pacific.
The base was located at Noumea in New Caledonia.

[Webster]

I just installed Maps+ Labels 1.3 into my mods folder, SHIV Gold 1.5, works a treat, thanks for the link. Puts:up:


yep it was dead, i had it in my files so i uploaded it for anyone who needs it.

find it here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=780

he didnt fix any spelling thou so you might want to go throu it one day and fix em.

[Webster]

Nice mod. Could you maybe add New Caledonia?


lol if i knew how to add stuff i would have told him that, you know what i know now so like i told him, you'll just hyave to figure it out yourself.

[gimpy117]

god I wish filefront was not gone....it dosen't work....it says file deleted and then show an add...

[peabody]

lol if i knew how to add stuff i would have told him that, you know what i know now so like i told him, you'll just hyave to figure it out yourself.

Thanks for the upload, Webster. Just for your info (since you have nothing to do....:har:) The names on the map such as Islands and Seas etc.(specifically anything that does not have a base or other 3D object that adds a name) are in the Terrain/LocationMaps folder. They are simply a colored square 1024x1024 with the name as a selection (alpha channel). So if you need to add a name, you create a square with the text as the selection. Then in mission editor you add a map location using this dds from the 2D image map dat drop down. The ones you add to the folder will be added to the list. For the info to put in all the boxes, you can open an existing one and look at how it is set up. There are setting for what zoom level the image appears and what zoom level it disappears again. So as you zoom in you can see it, but on a mission when you are zoomed close, the lettering will not be in the way.

To correct the spelling you can either create a new one or redo the old one, but since you need to correct the alpha channel anyway it's just as easy to redo it. And you may not have the specific font used to create it in the first place so you end up redoing the whole name anyway.

Peabody

[Webster]

To correct the spelling you can either create a new one or redo the old one, but since you need to correct the alpha channel anyway it's just as easy to redo it. And you may not have the specific font used to create it in the first place so you end up redoing the whole name anyway.

Peabody


ok so your saying what i said about fixing it manually in the text file wont fix it?