[TEC] Destroyer_in_attack_run message...

[Rubini]

Hi mates,

I was watching that old Sh3 clip from E3 and noticed that the crew says "Destroyer in attack run" when it is pertinent, during an enemy attack. Well, the text and sound are there (in the sh3 files), also the messages on the SO cfg file. But I never saw it in game...:hmm:
Any idea?
Somebody already saw it in game?

[Happy Times]

Hi mates,

I was watching that old Sh3 clip from E3 and noticed that the crew says "Destroyer in attack run" when it is pertinent, during an enemy attack. Well, the text and sound are there (in the sh3 files), also the messages on the SO cfg file. But I never saw it in game...:hmm:
Any idea?
Somebody already saw it in game?

That would be nice to get back, with bearing would be best.:p

[TarJak]

I've seen the text and IIRC in stock very occasionally heard it in the English version. Can't remember hearing or seeing it in the German though.

[bigboywooly]

Saw it only the other day :lol:

[Rubini]

Saw it only the other day :lol:
:hmm:
Where?
:D

[TarJak]

It appears in GWX 1.03 under the right conditions.

[Rubini]

It appears in GWX 1.03 under the right conditions.

Tarjak,

Then you saw it using GWX?
You use english or german?

I use German sounds and never saw it in GWX (I also don't recall to have sawn this message from a long time, I'm even not sure about stock 1.4...).

[Jimbuna]

I've seen it in GWX 1.03 (English text...German voice) :yep:

[Rubini]

I've seen it in GWX 1.03 (English text...German voice) :yep:

Thanks Jimbuma. I also use GWX 1.03 with English text/German Voice...but I don't recall to have seen it since long time. But if you, Tarjak and BBW have seen it lately, then probably could be a problem with some little self made modification over my GWX installation. I obviously already look at all my own modifications and can't find why or where is the problem. Odd...:-?

Thanks anyway mates!

[TheDarkWraith]

search your en_menu file for a ';' leading text following the xxx=. This comments out or makes that 'feature' not available. You'll find it on the 'show hull integrity' if your using GWX for example. Remove the ';' to enable.

[Rubini]

search your en_menu file for a ';' leading text following the xxx=. This comments out or makes that 'feature' not available. You'll find it on the 'show hull integrity' if your using GWX for example. Remove the ';' to enable.
This isn't the case here mate. I already look at this and and my en_menu is ok.
Also my SO messages .cfg file is ok, my speech files are ok too... I will look into the sonar settings on my AI_sensors.dat ... It's the unique place that I can think about now.:hmm:

[Mush Martin]

Funny but the other day as an issue came up with the River Class
Frigate mod. I pulled up my main test mission from River Class testing
and had a skirmish with six of them all of whom seemed agitated by
the recent loss of HMS Repulse. (GWX1.03)

I bet in that one skirmish I heard that phrase about a dozen times.
its keyed on a proximity to the destroyer at peridepth I think.
M

[bigboywooly]

Aye I believe I was at PD too when the DD attacked

[Rubini]

Funny but the other day as an issue came up with the River Class
Frigate mod. I pulled up my main test mission from River Class testing
and had a skirmish with six of them all of whom seemed agitated by
the recent loss of HMS Repulse. (GWX1.03)

I bet in that one skirmish I heard that phrase about a dozen times.
its keyed on a proximity to the destroyer at peridepth I think.
M

Aye I believe I was at PD too when the DD attacked

Thanks for these tips. I will follow this issue until receive that message again!
BTW, in a typical convoy attack&hunt by escorts do you always (or at least frequently) receive this message?:hmm:
Thanks in any advice!

[Mush Martin]

Funny but the other day as an issue came up with the River Class
Frigate mod. I pulled up my main test mission from River Class testing
and had a skirmish with six of them all of whom seemed agitated by
the recent loss of HMS Repulse. (GWX1.03)

I bet in that one skirmish I heard that phrase about a dozen times.
its keyed on a proximity to the destroyer at peridepth I think.
M
Aye I believe I was at PD too when the DD attacked
Thanks for these tips. I will follow this issue until receive that message again!
BTW, in a typical convoy attack&hunt by escorts do you always (or at least frequently) receive this message?:hmm:
Thanks in any advice!

Well I do, but most prudent Kaleuns wouldnt. its a long story I have
an attitude problem.
M

[Rubini]

Thanks MM,

I will try to make some tests again in PD only with the River class as you described.
Will post my results later.;)

[mw2000]

The 'Destroyer in attack run' message is actually broken in stock SH3 v1.4b. About 12 months ago I remember looking at Avon Ladys mod site and I downloaded the 'German Crew Cheer Mod'. I then got the german cheer from a torpedo impact and it also enabled in the 'destroyer in attack run' message as a bonus.

When a certain in-game scenario is met, the message and speech (from sonar man) will be used. So don't expect the message to appear every time a destroyer is charging at you.

The file is PUMP.DAT found in the Data\Library folder.

[TarJak]

It appears in GWX 1.03 under the right conditions.
Tarjak,

Then you saw it using GWX?
You use english or german?

I use German sounds and never saw it in GWX (I also don't recall to have sawn this message from a long time, I'm even not sure about stock 1.4...).

I've used both. I use German sound with English text. I haven't heard it for a while but I do remember hearing that no-one really knows how to ge the triggers right. Apparently when it does trigger it is usually when the DD is right on top of you rather than when the screws start up. I've been lucky recently and not been under heavy DD attack. (Obvisouly I'm not being aggressive enough:rotfl:)

[Rubini]

The 'Destroyer in attack run' message is actually broken in stock SH3 v1.4b. About 12 months ago I remember looking at Avon Ladys mod site and I downloaded the 'German Crew Cheer Mod'. I then got the german cheer from a torpedo impact and it also enabled in the 'destroyer in attack run' message as a bonus.

When a certain in-game scenario is met, the message and speech (from sonar man) will be used. So don't expect the message to appear every time a destroyer is charging at you.

The file is PUMP.DAT found in the Data\Library folder.
Thanks for the reply mate!

I just start up a fresh GWX 1.03 and - in my test mission, until now - no way to the sonarman say "Destroyer in attack run!". I guess that you are right: it´s broken or perhaps only in very special conditions this message will appears. I tried everything for some hours using a single mission with all type of DD and DE and no dice: PD, locking them in the periscope, stright ahead, changing deep, changing direction...nothing worked. So, isn´t with my instalation (i used a fresh GWX 1.03 as I said).:hmm:

Now about that PUMP.dat file..I used it before GWX...what you think is that with it this crap message will revive? Let´s crossing fingers! I will try again my test mission with it. Just some minutes (or hours - LOL)
Thanks again!

@TarJak,
Thanks for the reply too! If you notice that message again let me know in what condition, ok?

[TarJak]

NP Rubini next time I see it I'll give you a shout.

[Rubini]

No dice!
I just found my old "German crew Cheers mod" and made a comparision (using an hex editor) with the PUMP.dat on my installation and GWX: they are all the same. So, GWX already uses the fixed PUMP.dat. Then, the probability now remains only in "very special conditions" with some trigger that makes that message appears...odd:shifty:
Any input will be welcome, guys!
Thanks!

[Mush Martin]

Actually I think Ive figured this out.

not pd
not FF
not cvt

the clue is in my test mission all river class.......................

its Escort with hedgehog.

bet you a bottle of rootbeer.

[Rubini]

Actually I think Ive figured this out.

not pd
not FF
not cvt

the clue is in my test mission all river class.......................

its Escort with hedgehog.

bet you a bottle of rootbeer.
I hope so!
....but I also tested the River class in 1944 to be sure that they have hedgehog...dont worked for me.:shifty:
Anyway, can you send me your test mission?:yep:

[Mush Martin]

Actually I think Ive figured this out.

not pd
not FF
not cvt

the clue is in my test mission all river class.......................

its Escort with hedgehog.

bet you a bottle of rootbeer. I hope so!
....but I also tested the River class in 1944 to be sure that they have hedgehog...dont worked for me.:shifty:
Anyway, can you send me your test mission?:yep:

sure

[Mush Martin]

here you go you have to make a folder of the same name and
put it into it then put the folder here the mission name in your
menu list will be RepulseRiver

sh3/data/singlemissions/english


http://rapidshare.com/files/45480796/RepusleRiver.mis.html

[Rubini]

here you go you have to make a folder of the same name and
put it into it then put the folder here the mission name in your
menu list will be RepulseRiver

sh3/data/singlemissions/english


http://rapidshare.com/files/45480796/RepusleRiver.mis.html

Thanks mate!
I will only test it in sunday at night. It´s very late here and I need to go to work tomorrow early. Then will go in a trip.
I will post my finds later then.
BTW, yes, "Oi" is hello in portuguese. Thanks for the gentility!

[Mush Martin]

Im a product of a Catholic education.................:rotfl:

here in Catholic Highschool most of your freinds are Portugese

[Jimbuna]

If this is in fact the 'trigger' MM....that'll mean the 'River' will become a necessity....heres hoping :up:

[Mush Martin]

@Jimbuna from the day I opened the box on sh3 River FF was always
a necessary correction to the very flawed set up in vanilla.

2nd most common commonwealth combatant missing ? are they kidding
M

[Jimbuna]

@Jimbuna from the day I opened the box on sh3 River FF was always
a necessary correction to the very flawed set up in vanilla.

2nd most common commonwealth combatant missing ? are they kidding
M

Good point :yep:

[java`s revenge]

here you go you have to make a folder of the same name and
put it into it then put the folder here the mission name in your
menu list will be RepulseRiver

sh3/data/singlemissions/english


http://rapidshare.com/files/45480796/RepusleRiver.mis.html

Pls explain, don`t understand what you mean.

[Mush Martin]

1. make a folder on your desktop
2. copy and paste this name for the folder ---------> RepusleRiver <--------
3. put the mis file inside the folder (the one you downloaded called RepulseRiver mis)
4. cut or copy the folder from your desktop
5. open the following file in the game
C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\SingleMissions\ English
6. paste the repulse river file into the english folder
7. start game and choose single missions
8. in the single missions menu select RepulseRiver
as your mission that you want to play.
9.once the game Boots up be very very quiet there are a half dozen
River Class Frigates coming up the road.:rotfl:

[java`s revenge]

Ok that`s clear but....i do always play with the german voices......

:rotfl:

[bigboywooly]

Ok that`s clear but....i do always play with the german voices......

:rotfl:

If you play with English text it goes in the English folder

[java`s revenge]

Ok thanks then i will do this.

[Rubini]

Hi mates,
MM,

First of all, thanks again for the SM...but I guess that you are using some beta from GWx 1.04, no? I´m saying this because (unless I´m missing something) GWX 1.03 don´t have the Repulse, and the River is yet a DE (type=3) not a frigate. So, your SM brings a CTD in my installation.:D

Anyhow i made a similar SM using the Anson and the DE River class, the best (similar of your SM) possible using GWX 1.03...and after some tests...that message didn´t appeared again.:-?

Well, perhaps could be because in your installation/SM the River is in truth a Frigate (type=2) and then, who knows, this is what start the trigger?
Any idea?:hmm:

[NoLine]

i think youll get the "destroyer in attack run" message if you remove the sonar from the destroyer.
you can test this with the Italian mas, let it spot you, dive and then when its going to wb you....

cheers
NoLine

[Rubini]

i think youll get the "destroyer in attack run" message if you remove the sonar from the destroyer.
you can test this with the Italian mas, let it spot you, dive and then when its going to wb you....

cheers
NoLine
Hi NoLine!
How are you mate?
Since HT 1.47 yah?:yep:

Thanks for the input. I will try that. And thinking about this...you are right...this is what happens in that old SH3 E3 video...the destroyer/Frigate see the uboat first then it go PD and even more deep, then the "Enemy is ping us" message appears followed by the Destroyer in attack run!
I will try it and will let you know.

Anyhow, IIRC, the Italian mas isn´t a destroyer, no? But the game shows the message. Probably for any enemy ship that is hunt you I guess...:hmm:

[NoLine]

Hi Rubini :), i think every ship which is the correct type (type0 totype4) with a dc rack but without a sonar will do it
I think the message from the sonar guy telling you the desroyer knows where we are, cancelles the "destroyer in attack run" message
Hope you can get rid of it, cause i really miss that message, maybe someone van hex edit away that silly "they know where we are" message

cheers
NoLine

[Mush Martin]

Hi mates,
MM,

First of all, thanks again for the SM...but I guess that you are using some beta from GWx 1.04, no? I´m saying this because (unless I´m missing something) GWX 1.03 don´t have the Repulse, and the River is yet a DE (type=3) not a frigate. So, your SM brings a CTD in my installation.:D

Anyhow i made a similar SM using the Anson and the DE River class, the best (similar of your SM) possible using GWX 1.03...and after some tests...that message didn´t appeared again.:-?

Well, perhaps could be because in your installation/SM the River is in truth a Frigate (type=2) and then, who knows, this is what start the trigger?
Any idea?:hmm:

No Im not a gwx tester River and Repulse were seperate mods.

[Mush Martin]

River FF you can get here From BBW

http://hosted.filefront.com/bigboywooly


Repulse was Warhunters work I think but I couldnt get
through to his FF page?

M

[SquareSteelBar]

Warhunter's FF Page (http://hosted.filefront.com/RolandFischer)

[Rubini]

Thanks again mates!
I tried yesterday at night again (also following NoLine suggestion) and no dice. In any moment I saw that message.:shifty:

I will simply go back to my career again and If, in any moment, I see that message i will post here. If someone see that message actually, please post the relate here, what date, which situation, etc.

This will help to discover the "trigger" and then perhaps some mod could arrive in this matter.:hmm:

Rubini.

[NoLine]

It works for me Rubini ;)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3356/attackrunvw8.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=attackrunvw8.jpg)

cheers
NoLine

[Jimbuna]

Not sure if this is of any help :hmm: But every time I get the message I'm at PD :yep: Could it have a 'visual' setting trigger ? :hmm:

[java`s revenge]

A hint maybe....noline isn`t playing full real and i see the original faces....

[Rubini]

It works for me Rubini ;)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3356/attackrunvw8.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=attackrunvw8.jpg)

cheers
NoLine
Are you playing GWX 1.03(just to avoid/to be sure about any differences on our install)?
And perhaps this also could have something to do with the realism settings?:hmm:

[NoLine]

It works for me Rubini ;)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3356/attackrunvw8.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=attackrunvw8.jpg)

cheers
NoLine
Are you playing GWX 1.03(just to avoid/to be sure about any differences on our install)?
And perhaps this also could have something to do with the realism settings?:hmm:

Im playing almost vanilla, only airpower mod.
Dont think realism has anything to do with it.

cheers
NoLine

[java`s revenge]

I am playing sh3+gwx 1.3 full real.

Mission was in october 1939.
Today i got a "destroyer in the attack run message".
Was great to hear...but...

I had crippled that destroyer by one torpedo hit and it didnt run onto me but
sailed along side about 300 mtrs away.

[Dimitrius07]

Another info

GW mod (not a gwx) 100% realism settings. When i tryed to atack a convoy in Jan 1941 i left my periscope up for to long , and the destroyer is probably spot it - When i spot hem he was in aprox 250 meter, ALAARMMM!!!!! When i reach 30 meters sonar reported "Destroyer in atack run".

Also in vanila under more or less same situation it happen to me but only one time :shifty:

[bigboywooly]

Testing today
Scope left up on purpose :shifty:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/ScreenHunter_583.jpg

[Rubini]

Thanks guys!
I yet didn´t saw this message in game!:shifty:
Well, I´m not playing so much lately...but I will!

Anyhow, I guess that what we learned about this is that this don´t happens frequently but only under special conditions and isn´t easy to reproduce all the time...Or am I wrong? :hmm:

If this is correct I can just wait for my "moment" in the game... but if not...then I need to look at all my installed mods to find something that could be the culprite (in truth I already looked superficialy on them and all seems ok )

[Vader 1]

I have never had the message played yet with scope down as I tend to play conservatively however I tried some test missions and each time I can get it to trigger as long as I "leave the scope up". I believe its the sim's way of telling you if you are too focused on a ship with your scope up that it's time for some pain and you should look around

Vader
GWX1.03

[Jimbuna]

Had it yesterday (sorry no screenshot) whilst testing the latest GWX ;)

Boat was at 40-50 metres depth :arrgh!:

[TarJak]

Had it yesterday (sorry no screenshot) whilst testing the latest GWX ;)

Boat was at 40-50 metres depth :arrgh!: Woz your scope up Chief?

[Dimitrius07]

Ok Rubini its your lucky day (joking)
now the jokes are over :stare: :D

New information.

Playing more or less standart NYGM mod , 100% realism settings - WAW mission Evasion

Screenshot

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6800/destroyerinatackrunrubikm6.jpg


Both periscopes are down - sonar damaged.

I don`t shure but i think thise sound is scripted and only show up in more or less same conditions. Its only the 3 time i see thise happen to me, but in any case all 3 times were in crash dive status (sorry for my English).

I hope maybe thise will some how help you;)

[Jimbuna]

Had it yesterday (sorry no screenshot) whilst testing the latest GWX ;)

Boat was at 40-50 metres depth :arrgh!: Woz your scope up Chief?

It was :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Here's a few shots :arrgh!:

In this one you'll see the periscope is below the surface:

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3729/attackrun4rg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A little deeper still

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1089/attackrun3ec2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Jimbuna]

A couple more :arrgh!:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3913/attackrun2dk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1880/attackrun1wx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[java`s revenge]

Yesterday i got this message and i thought i heard it also yelled in german.
Btw a destroyer was indeed in an attack run right straight at me.