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GoldenEagle8
07-16-07, 01:50 PM
ok, the problem I have is that the Colorado Battleship is showing up black, and all ships that use the Colorado skin (the Pennsylvania Battleship) are showing up black in game. The question I have about this is will getting Dirct X 10, or making the skin lower res or something help? or does anyone have any other ideas? because, as silly as it sounds, this is the kind of thing that will make me not want to play (they are my favorite battleships!)

I tried reinstalling the patch, and I tried reinstalling the game, and I only got it to work twice. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Jace11
07-16-07, 04:38 PM
ok will have a look, came across a similar complaint months ago about a black Iowa.. was dates on skin usage.

EDIT: dates look fine to me.. skins should be implemented correctly. Don't know what your problem is, sorry.

Jace11
07-16-07, 04:45 PM
ok something has caught my eye...

The DATA/SEA/NBB_COLORADO is missing some dds files. Instead there are tgas like in SH3. I bet if you convert those TGA's to DDS files it will fix your problem...??


Maybe anyway...

adseal
07-16-07, 04:46 PM
ok will have a look, came across a similar complaint months ago about a black Iowa.. was dates on skin usage.

EDIT: dates look fine to me.. skins should be implemented correctly. Don't know what your problem is, sorry.


I have the same problem, so it could not be an incidental thing...

GoldenEagle8
07-16-07, 11:51 PM
ok something has caught my eye...

The DATA/SEA/NBB_COLORADO is missing some dds files. Instead there are tgas like in SH3. I bet if you convert those TGA's to DDS files it will fix your problem...??


Maybe anyway...

I saw that too, I tried opening and resaving them as DDS, but it didn't work.:down:

XLjedi
07-17-07, 08:23 AM
Is there a solution to the BLACK BATTLESHIPS problem yet? Easy to test if leaving Pearl, just look over your shoulder at the pair floating in the harbor.

In my case, the overall skins of the ship are straight black, but all the gun turrets are showing up OK.

Oddly... it seems that the skins are OK when viewed from underwater? I think the submerged portion of the hull looks OK, but I can't tell by looking up thru the water if the above water is rendering.

When the camera is completely out of water looking down thru transparent water, it looks like the black continues below the water line. But when I submerge the camera, I don't seem to see that.

But I dunno, maybe I'm seeing things :doh: maybe it is just a black hull and the water effects make it look like there's more to it...


Another side note, I happened to run 1.3 for the first time without the CD installed (cuz I was excited bout that). I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with it but...

tater
07-17-07, 08:37 AM
I was testing PH last night (i merged the 1.3 PH with my campaign_loc) and I didn't see any untextued (black) BBs, and there were a few BBs there. Guess I should make a quick mission with the US BBs.

Is the black BB issue only on specific dates? I looked at the roster, and the texture dates look fine.

tater

XLjedi
07-17-07, 08:49 AM
In my case the date is Dec 9, 1941 out of Pearl.

Jace11
07-17-07, 08:52 AM
Has anyone tried the TGA to DDS conversion yet I suggested !!????? Using the Nvidia tool obviously...

XLjedi
07-17-07, 08:54 AM
Has anyone tried the TGA to DDS conversion yet I suggested !!????? Using the Nvidia tool obviously...

see post #5

tater
07-17-07, 08:59 AM
If the roster cfg pointed at dds instead of tga you could just change the text and try as well.

There are a few cases in game where the text file calls a TGA and the real file is dds and it doesn't seem to care, oddly. (the mission loading screens are called in the career start as "1943.tga" but the real file is a dds)

Jace11
07-17-07, 10:18 AM
I found post #5 a bit vague, did the saving not work, did he use the NVidia tool, did he successfully create the "correct" type of dds file the game can recognise and install it then test it....???

Sounds to me like it probably isnt that anyway...

adseal
07-17-07, 11:04 AM
If the roster cfg pointed at dds instead of tga you could just change the text and try as well.

There are a few cases in game where the text file calls a TGA and the real file is dds and it doesn't seem to care, oddly. (the mission loading screens are called in the career start as "1943.tga" but the real file is a dds)

It doesn't work. Also conversion of tga's to dds... It is very strange. I think it's the same situation as some of us have previously when we wanted to implement ships from SH3 to SH4. situation is the same. I think there is somewhere a clue to solve this...

regards
Ad

tater
07-17-07, 11:50 AM
I just made a mission with Colorado and she looks fine to me. Perhaps it's a graphics card issue for those that have the problem?

tater

XLjedi
07-17-07, 12:53 PM
I saw a post on the Ubi forum from a guy who had the exact same graphics card as me (Nvidia 6800 Ultra) and his graphics looked fine based on the screenshots he posted. So drivers are maybe a suspect...

I also saw someone else mention something about if you haven't completely rebooted the PC and have been running the game and installed the patch between PC sessions where you didn't fully shutdown (standby mode) that it somehow screwed things up and rebooting/reinstalling fixed their problem. Seemed unlikely to me...

So tonight I'm gonna first try just a full reboot (or as I like to call it, the tech support approach to fixing anything.) Next I'll try a driver upgrade, and if all else fails, I'll revert to the clean install and repatch.

XLjedi
07-18-07, 07:17 AM
Well, just as a followup...

I can rule out the following:

1) Not a driver issue as I now have the latest driver installed

2) Nothing to do with restarting the PC (duh)


I'm going to try a fresh reinstall tonight. I recall on the last patch I forgot to rollback my modded config file... and it did cause some strange problems. It occured to me last night that I had done the exact same thing this time. Forgot to rollback the config changes :damn: I had made before running the 1.3 patch.

So tonight I'll try the reinstall and report back...

tater
07-18-07, 08:26 AM
aaron, is there a particular date/time you can give us leaving PH?

Also, can you use the mission editor? You might try making a quick mission and see if it works there.

If you give the exact date, I can make a quick mission to see if that date fails on my machine.

XLjedi
07-18-07, 09:30 AM
In my case the date is Dec 9, 1941 out of Pearl.

As previously mentioned...

tater
07-18-07, 09:52 AM
Sorry, missed that post!

tater

tater
07-18-07, 11:10 AM
Made a test mission at sea, colorado and pennsylvania, dec 9, 1941. Looks fine. Start campaign PH dec 9, looks fine.

It's not the game. A date/texture issue would always happen. Gotta be your machine.

XLjedi
07-18-07, 11:23 AM
I think it's the install, as I have seen screenshots posted from people with the exact same specs that do NOT have the problem... and I have also heard several cases where people have the same problem with different specs.

I think what we all may have in common is modding the config file and forgetting to roll back before patching. :hmm:

But I'll test that theory tonight...