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fair_weather
07-13-07, 09:40 AM
No, not a plastic model, just a converted ingame model from the ingame format to anything else, .OBJ .3DS .C4D (prefer it .C4D but I'll take what I can get)

Long story short. I'm working on something...something that might be useful to GWX...a new intro movie perhaps? Fully Rendered and all that jazz, but if so...I'll need more models...but I'll be happy with the VIIC for now. Anyone care to help out?

Edit: Now that I have the model...Time for the people to speak! More specifically, the GWX people. Do you want a fully CG intro? Like the SH3 intro, only more...GWX...ish...

If you do, say so! :D

danlisa
07-13-07, 09:45 AM
Oh, WOW!

I would love to see a fully rendered movie from Cinema 4D for GWX.

Please, someone with more knowledge of Max, Maya etc please help this man.

Try FlakMonkey.;)

bigboywooly
07-13-07, 10:00 AM
7C

http://www.mediafire.com/?9lkmj3im1na

Turm7c_3_hd

http://www.mediafire.com/?alw0dmudjys

All in .obj format

Kpt. Lehmann
07-13-07, 10:20 AM
:hmm: Well, this could get interesting. Sounds pretty cool.

fair_weather
07-13-07, 10:48 AM
Danke herr Kaluen!

That'll work excellently :D

However it'll take a bit of time getting all the parts back to where they belong...shouldn't take too long though. I'll get started when I get home.

fair_weather
07-13-07, 01:29 PM
Alrighty, so I got the model set up, looking good. So I did a test render to see how it looks, added some fog and some low light...

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/7c_test1.jpg

Yes it's hard to see, but I'll get a few more renders that show off the specular and bump mapping that's gone into it.

danlisa
07-13-07, 01:38 PM
Looking good. Has that got any textures applied to it?

fair_weather
07-13-07, 01:40 PM
Yep, but it's a bit on the dark side to see any of them...hang on...uploading some pics.

...and I just noticed that the grey on the bottom of the image matches the forums grey!

...Cool!

fair_weather
07-13-07, 01:51 PM
The Following is using the stock 7C model from SH3, with stock textures but with specular highlights and bump mapping applied to them. Nothing else.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/7c_2.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/7c_1.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/7c_3.jpg
Except the conning tower image...that's Googles work.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/7c_4.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/7c_5.jpg

Alrighty, now that I got that out of the way. I think an intro is very much possible. However seeing as how GWX is getting close to being done...it might be a seperate download...or people might not want it...*shrugs*

Tis up to the people!

Penelope_Grey
07-13-07, 01:52 PM
OMG that is lovely! Its like looking at a real solid object!

danlisa
07-13-07, 01:53 PM
:cool: I would leave the conning tower emblem out though.;)

BTW, what size are the texture files for the skin? I have the original high rez versions available, might render better. IIRC 2048x2048

fair_weather
07-13-07, 01:56 PM
Danlisa: no clue how big the images are, and 2048x2048 images would be awesome :D

Pass them along when you get the chance, I'll be working on stuff over the weekend, and seeing as how the model files are under 5 megs, I can probably download any more I need from home. (I'm thinking a freighter and a British DD...not sure which yet...)

But since people so far are falling for it. I think I'll have some work cut out for me...:|\\

fair_weather
07-13-07, 01:58 PM
Oh, and one more thing. Anyone know where the deck gun and AA gun models are?

KeybdFlyer
07-13-07, 02:01 PM
That looks superb! And yes, someone would want it - me for a start! :rock: Brilliant work, well done!

Gezoes
07-13-07, 02:01 PM
Holy smokes, that looks nice :o

My hat off to you all :up:

Jimbuna
07-13-07, 02:12 PM
Looking good kaleun fair weather :rock: :up:

danlisa
07-13-07, 02:14 PM
LOL, you better get busy.:) This is shaping up.:up:

Here you go, 2048 Texture files, just drop them in with the obj files.
http://danlisa.files-upload.com/367915/VIIC2048Textures.7z.html

fair_weather
07-13-07, 02:34 PM
Alright, I think it's go time :D

Basically, what I had in mind:

--Opening shot---

1943, Somewhere in the Atlantic. Camera sweeps over the water. All is calm.

Cut to a shot of a periscope coming out of the water. Cut to a clip from Das Boot with the skipper looking through the periscope.

Shot of the pov of the periscope. It swings around until it spots something on the horizon.

Shot of a C2 freighter as it chugs merrily along, blissfully unaware of it's impending doom.

Cut to the crew preparing for a shot, Das boot again. Shot of the torpedo doors opening. they fire off a torpedo (LOS!) Shot of the torp tearing out of the tube.

Shot of the skipper holding a stop watch. Shot of the torp screaming towards the C2. Shot of the C2, nothing all is quiet...then...BOOM! Geyser of water, BOOM boilers go up, smoke everywhere.

Shot of the periscopes POV, as the C2 goes down.

Cut to a shot underwater as the C2 goes plowing to the bottom of the ocean. Flash up the title SH3: GWX

---Possible alternate/extended version in this version the title doesn't come up yet.---

Cut to the periscopes POV. It does another sweep and spots something coming at them...fast...

Shot of a DD bearing straight for the Uboat.

ALARM!!! Crew rush through the boat to the front. Shot of the props spinning faster and faster, as they dive.

The DD barrels over them and unleashes it's Depthcharges. Cut of the crew looking up around, quiet as death (Das boot...again...)

Shot of the Uboat with DCs dropping around them. One enters the top of the frame and looks like it'll land right on top of it...

Black out.

Title comes up.

End.

fair_weather
07-13-07, 02:38 PM
One more image before I head off from for home and then I go into full production mode.

People are probably thinking...Can I make good enough water?

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/7c_topside1.jpg

Think that'll be good enough quality for the intro?

fair_weather
07-13-07, 06:31 PM
I'll answer what everyone is thinking...no that's not good enough water.

Cause A: I can do way better and B: that was on the crappy work computer.

I'm working on the first scene right now, just the camera sweep. Should be done rendering in a couple hours, then just keep working at it :)

Deathfrombelow23
07-13-07, 06:38 PM
That looks amazing, Herr Kaleun!! Keep up the good work. Your idea sounds great!! :rock: :rock:

Brag
07-13-07, 06:45 PM
Woweeeeeeeeeee :up:

fair_weather
07-13-07, 06:53 PM
HA!!! WOO!!! SH3 runs the movies in WMV format. Meaning I can make it in movie maker! :D

I didn't know how long the intro should be...but I listened to a couple SH3 themes and I got hooked on one that sounds like it meets all the requirements that I was looking for. Crack open the sound/music/Tension_2_Mix.ogg and give that a listen to.

That will be the musictrack for the intro. Fits perfectly.

bigboywooly
07-13-07, 06:55 PM
May I make a suggestion and not use a C2
I am sure the Kpt can fit you up with a unit to sink :hmm:

fair_weather
07-13-07, 06:58 PM
Doesn't matter what it is, aslong as it gets sent to the bottom :up:

And is in .OBJ format...C4D seems to be fairly fond of them...

Gezoes
07-13-07, 07:17 PM
I'd say definitely the alternate version of the script! :up:

How about some increasing pings to go with the ending scenes? Perhaps one last loud ping just before the 'final' charge seems to land on the sub? Or after... just after the title fades... :cool:

A metal creak perhaps? :hmm:

Just brainstorming... it sure would translate the feel of GWX. You never know when you might live or die! :arrgh!:

Great stuff.

bigboywooly
07-13-07, 07:24 PM
Doesn't matter what it is, aslong as it gets sent to the bottom :up:

And is in .OBJ format...C4D seems to be fairly fond of them...

No problem
But the ship has to stay a secret till GWX release
:rotfl:
Cant show everthing off now can we

fair_weather
07-13-07, 07:49 PM
Sounds good, you're on my MSN list now. Get online so we can get more discussin' going on.

Kpt. Lehmann
07-13-07, 07:50 PM
Oi.

Methinks we built a monster.:o :D

fair_weather
07-13-07, 08:05 PM
Not yet :D but soooooon....

Kpt. Lehmann
07-13-07, 08:23 PM
Actually, I'm thinking about the whole Grey Wolves project from day one til now.

Its cool to see that it is inspiring new things.:up:

fair_weather
07-13-07, 10:59 PM
First two scenes are rendered out. 16 seconds of footage so far. Aiming for 2 minutes.

Next scene is the periscope PoV shot. Using a couple techniques, including trying to get something that resembles the washout on the periscope glass.

Should be rendered by tomorrow morning.

_Seth_
07-13-07, 11:03 PM
Lookin' good, Mate!!!!!!!! Kudos!!! (Im movin' this thread to the mods forum, it really deserves to be there!!!!):yep::up::up::up:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
07-14-07, 05:43 AM
If you do, say so! :D

so! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

great works herr kaleun *takes of my cap and bows*
the GWX team should give somthing special to you :up:

Jimbuna
07-14-07, 09:57 AM
This is beginning to look like it has massive potential :yep:

Wondering kpt. if a private link ;) might be more appropriate ? :hmm:

danlisa
07-14-07, 10:01 AM
This is beginning to look like it has massive potential :yep:

Wondering kpt. if a private link ;) might be more appropriate ? :hmm:

Not a bad idea Jim.:o We could certainly pass files & guidance easier.:hmm:

Jimbuna
07-14-07, 10:15 AM
This is beginning to look like it has massive potential :yep:

Wondering kpt. if a private link ;) might be more appropriate ? :hmm:

Not a bad idea Jim.:o We could certainly pass files & guidance easier.:hmm:

Don't know what you've got on right now, but I'm over on TS with Kpt. if you can make it :up:

danlisa
07-14-07, 10:22 AM
Don't know what you've got on right now, but I'm over on TS with Kpt. if you can make it :up:

Not a lot, just got out of the shower.:rotfl: :rotfl:

Sorry guy's 1st anniversary to prepare for.;)

Kpt. Lehmann
07-14-07, 10:36 AM
Don't know what you've got on right now, but I'm over on TS with Kpt. if you can make it :up:

Not a lot, just got out of the shower.:rotfl: :rotfl:

Sorry guy's 1st anniversary to prepare for.;)

Congrats matey! Hug the missus for us! :arrgh!:

Jimbuna
07-14-07, 10:46 AM
Don't know what you've got on right now, but I'm over on TS with Kpt. if you can make it :up:

Not a lot, just got out of the shower.:rotfl: :rotfl:

Sorry guy's 1st anniversary to prepare for.;)

Congrats matey! Hug the missus for us! :arrgh!:

You can give her MORE THAN A HUG from me ;)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

fair_weather
07-14-07, 12:43 PM
Yep, I'll get on TS. Sorry...slept in today...got up to 31 seconds of footage. And I may just go all out music for the soundtrack...it'll be more...cool...I think...if not I can mix and match some stuff.

Hopefully break the 1 minute mark today.

And thanks for moving the thread! :D

fair_weather
07-16-07, 07:11 AM
Well, it's Monday.

I've been working over the entire weekend on this. And I'd like to say that I have results. Mind you only the people who I PM will be able to view it.

Stictly because of privacy and quality control. Need to make a few changes. Not many, but a few...and have to re render it in high resolution, instead of what I've got now.

Jimbuna
07-16-07, 04:55 PM
Just had a peek and was very impressed :rock: :up:

You have a PM ;)

Alex
07-16-07, 05:20 PM
Oi.

Methinks we built a monster.:o :D

Yes :huh:, it looks very promising indeed, guys !

Good luck ! :rock:

And thanks to you, Kaleun Fair_Weather ! :up:

Steel_Tomb
07-16-07, 05:31 PM
:huh:....nice! can't wait to see the finished product, should be awesome!

johnno74
07-16-07, 06:48 PM
Can we see any more screenshots then, just to tease us?

PLEEEEEEEASE! :p:p

fair_weather
07-16-07, 06:51 PM
Doing some new things for the next phase. Going to try and get the old ww2 footage feel the whole thing.

Maybe get some new music to go with it too...Anyone have a copy of "The Carosel goes around"? an old grammaphone worthy german song Edit: I would...however I'd have to get permission...

...and know that IF I release anything, it is by no means a hint that GWX or any mod of that name is even close to being released. I do not know when it'll be released, and even if I did know I would not tell.

Although I might release little spins of footage...probably what I will upload is the...innocent stuff...a diving VIIC for instance in the way of ww2 film footage...camera on the top of the deck by the bridge, watching the water surge up over the camera to see underwater...that kind of thing...nothing that would even HINT to what will happen in the finished piece.

But I will ask what I can release to the public.

Pants
07-16-07, 10:20 PM
Don't know what you've got on right now, but I'm over on TS with Kpt. if you can make it :up:
Not a lot, just got out of the shower.:rotfl: :rotfl:

Sorry guy's 1st anniversary to prepare for.;)
Ahh congrats matey, hope you had a great day the both of you :up:

looking very nice Fair_weather :rock:

Happy Times
07-16-07, 11:10 PM
Doing some new things for the next phase. Going to try and get the old ww2 footage feel the whole thing.

Maybe get some new music to go with it too...Anyone have a copy of "The Carosel goes around"? an old grammaphone worthy german song Edit: I would...however I'd have to get permission...

...and know that IF I release anything, it is by no means a hint that GWX or any mod of that name is even close to being released. I do not know when it'll be released, and even if I did know I would not tell.

Although I might release little spins of footage...probably what I will upload is the...innocent stuff...a diving VIIC for instance in the way of ww2 film footage...camera on the top of the deck by the bridge, watching the water surge up over the camera to see underwater...that kind of thing...nothing that would even HINT to what will happen in the finished piece.

But I will ask what I can release to the public.

:rock:

Jimbuna
07-17-07, 03:44 AM
Doing some new things for the next phase. Going to try and get the old ww2 footage feel the whole thing.

Maybe get some new music to go with it too...Anyone have a copy of "The Carosel goes around"? an old grammaphone worthy german song Edit: I would...however I'd have to get permission...

...and know that IF I release anything, it is by no means a hint that GWX or any mod of that name is even close to being released. I do not know when it'll be released, and even if I did know I would not tell.

Although I might release little spins of footage...probably what I will upload is the...innocent stuff...a diving VIIC for instance in the way of ww2 film footage...camera on the top of the deck by the bridge, watching the water surge up over the camera to see underwater...that kind of thing...nothing that would even HINT to what will happen in the finished piece.

But I will ask what I can release to the public.

Akin to taking an alcoholic into a pub, but just as you reach the entrance, you turn and say...."don't forget, you can't have a drink" :p

johnno74
07-17-07, 08:04 AM
Doing some new things for the next phase. Going to try and get the old ww2 footage feel the whole thing.



Just a personal opinion of mine I'd like to voice here.... and maybe I'm the only one that feels this way... but:

But I feel the whole "grainy WW2 footage" thing is a an overused cliche.

There is a brilliant series that sometimes plays on TV called "war in colour" which is about the history of WWII, and all the clips they show is original colour footage. Seeing it is a bit of a shock, its not at all how you are accustomed to seeing WWII before... and it all seems much more real.

Anyway, my opinion is instead of trying to look like a grainy old war film, you should be trying to make it look as REAL as possible.

Just a thought of mine... but what do you guys think?

Jimbuna
07-17-07, 08:37 AM
There was very little WWII colour footage when compared directly against the total footage taken, but I agree in the sense that sometimes a bit of colour gets the message home better.

'Grainy' as you call it still has it's place.

I suppose it's a matter of personal choice at the end of the day :yep:

fair_weather
07-17-07, 08:44 AM
Easy fix for that. When I'm done I'll make 3 versions. One clean, one with the film effects like in the SH3 intro (the old film grain and lines) and one with the black and white with film grain.

Doesn't change much, and it'll make everyone happy :D

Alex
07-17-07, 09:18 AM
Good idea. :up:

Steel_Tomb
07-17-07, 09:24 AM
I would think it would be easier to find the old grainy black and white film than colour, especially for u-boats. Land battles had camera men in them with colour footage, u-boats in most cases probably didn't! I prefer b&w grainy footage but thats just my personal taste.

fair_weather
07-17-07, 10:02 AM
I would think it would be easier to find the old grainy black and white film than colour, especially for u-boats. Land battles had camera men in them with colour footage, u-boats in most cases probably didn't! I prefer b&w grainy footage but thats just my personal taste.

Which is why I'm doing the BW one for the real final one.:yep:

johnno74
07-18-07, 03:51 AM
I would think it would be easier to find the old grainy black and white film than colour, especially for u-boats. Land battles had camera men in them with colour footage, u-boats in most cases probably didn't! I prefer b&w grainy footage but thats just my personal taste.
Which is why I'm doing the BW one for the real final one.:yep:

Can't wait to see it Fair_weather. Hope it makes it into GWX1.04 :D

Jimbuna
07-18-07, 04:21 PM
Me too ;)

flakmonkey
07-19-07, 05:20 AM
sounding promissing, are you going to be adding any interior shots, like captin at the attack scope etc...

Alex
07-19-07, 07:12 AM
Good question. :hmm:

fair_weather
07-19-07, 09:31 AM
Alas I can't do character animations...

And Lehmann has requested more ingame footage than rendered footage...which I'm more than happy about (saves me alot of time) and will look just as good if not better in the end :D

Still dunno what I could release...

...hmmm...

...Alrighty...how 'bout a quick and easy "teaser trailer" It'll show only one thing that'll be in the final one, and it won't betray anything that the GWX crew have worked on. So there. It'll get the community talking so that's something atleast :)

Jimbuna
07-19-07, 09:52 AM
First screenshot ;)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6361/07ex4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

fair_weather
07-19-07, 10:35 AM
Nah, THESE are the first screenshots:


CG ONLY NO REAL ELEMENTS
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/teaser_periscope1.jpg


LOS!
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/teaser_torpshot.jpg

Maybe they missed us...*BOOM*
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Corhellion/Artwork/teaser_dc.jpg


Using only the ingame stock SH3 VIIC Uboat model, and my own custom periscope model. (which we need for SH3...someone make a new periscope interface like SH4s, I don't care how hard it is! people can use the torpedo selector in the combat map and select tubes that way!)

fair_weather
07-19-07, 12:35 PM
And like I said, none of the above is in the final stages. These are all very much rough works.

Jimbuna
07-21-07, 02:02 PM
Still time to do the skin on my boat then :lol:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
10-08-07, 01:46 PM
any progress ? :hmm:

Jimbuna
10-08-07, 02:14 PM
Nearly three month old :o

Your having a laugh aren't you ? :hmm:

You should have most of them sub emblems ready by now :p

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
10-08-07, 03:18 PM
just want to know if he finished it yet... i liked the idea :yep: