Israeli spies.

[Fish]

I wonder how you US guys think of this? Is Fox right?


According to FOX news, throughout late 2000 and 2001, a total of 200 Israeli spies were arrested. (13) It was the largest spy ring to ever be uncovered in the history of the United States. The Washington Post also reported that some of these Israelis were arrested in connection with the 9-11 investigation. (14) US. Carl Cameron of FOX News Channel did a excellent four part, nationally televised, series of investigations into this blockbuster scandal. But FOX pulled the investigative series after Zionist groups complained to FOX executives. FOX even went so far as to remove the written transcripts of the series from its website! In it's place was posted a chilling, Orwellian message which reads: "This story no longer exists." (15) Fortunately for the sake of history, the FOX transcripts were copied onto to many other websites and all four parts are available for your review. (see footnotes.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YacvPZr-KDs&mode=related&search=

[Heibges]

Spies are spies.

Johnathan Pollard isn't getting out of jail any time soon.

[cobalt]

you're gonna stir up a bees nest ;o

[Fish]

you're gonna stir up a bees nest ;o

Oh my! :o

[waste gate]

I watched the first video. A couple of things jumped out at me. That Israel is has the most agressive intellegence gathering network within the US of all our allies.

So all our 'friends' are doing it. I'm sure the US is doing it to our allies. The Israelies are the best at it in the US.......go figure.

If FNC knows then you can bet the FBI knows, and knew far sooner than FNC had a clue.

Secondly, the use of phone records by organized crime kind of reminds me of the apprehension of the cell planning an attack on the JFK fuel farm. The one group, other than the airlines, which has the most to lose by the disruption of JFK business is the mob. It wouldn't be the first time the mob helped the US Gov't for mutual benefit.

[PeriscopeDepth]

I seriously doubt Britain or Japan's (for example) spy network in the US comes close to Israel's in terms of manpower and funding. It's not that their best at it, it's that they see the need to put MUCH more resources into spying on the US than our other allies. Why is that?

PD

[kiwi_2005]

Spies, the movie "The Breach" comes to mind. The guy who acted as the US spy played the part well.

Im a spy i own Google Earth Pro.... I can see you:yep: :rotfl:

:roll:

[FIREWALL]

you're gonna stir up a bees nest ;o

Haven't you heard. Freedom of speech. Freedom of the press. Freedom of the internet and Freedom of thought around here.

Our Moderaters have a special spray for bee's :D

[Iceman]

Looks like alot of speculation and fiction. Without a doubt I am sure the Israeli Gov. has spies in America as well as other countries, as do we, and everybody else...yadda yadda...this is a mute point I think.Information is life as was stated in the video in part one...without information you suffer.I see the attempt to rouse American suspicsion in that Israel may have knew some information beforehand about the 9/11 plot...at this point I choose to ignore that as pure speculation in the absence of imperical evidence...I can not believe that Israel would knowinly permit such an act to take place and not inform someone,somehow,thru some secret back channel without comprimising they're own covert actions in this country....

Israel is still an Ally and I for one support her..again as was stated in the video she "Israel", has a strong survival instinct and who could deny anyone that anyways....

I do not condone the aformentioned spying activites but seems pretty hypocritical of me to take some moral stance when my country does the same damn thing....

If a spy is caught then they're caught...the jig is up for them...that is the game that all governments play...what's really sad is that as a planet we still can't pull our heads out of our asses to fix the big problems that will eventually do every soul in.

[Heibges]

I doubt Israel has the money to fund such a huge spy network.

They have almost practiced economy of force when it comes to stuff like this.

I would say the most dangerous spy in America right now is Rupert Murdoch. Regardless of his politics, it is dangerous to have a foreigner putting out foreign propaganda on television every night.

The British used similar methods before WWII to drag the United States into the war. Especially newspapers out of Canada.

I wonder if Murdoch has contacts in MI-6?

I also think spying is very neccessary. Is it more dangerous for the enemy to know your capabilites, or not to know them?

[PeriscopeDepth]

Alright, if all of our other allies spy on us as well, shouldn't they get caught? I can't seem to find any news stories about British, French, German, or Japanese intelligence officers caught spying on the USA.

PD

[P_Funk]

I doubt Israel has the money to fund such a huge spy network. You could say the same of their military before you see how much money Congress sends over there every year. The US is Israel's sugerdaddy.

The irony in that is that the US is probably paying for Israel to spy on them.

I do not condone the aformentioned spying activites but seems pretty hypocritical of me to take some moral stance when my country does the same damn thing.... Why? Just because your country does it doesn't mean that you need to conform your moral guidelines.

[August]

An old Reganism comes to mind:

"Trust, but verify"

[Yahoshua]

The U.S. government was warned multiple times of the impending attack by multiple government agencies and did nothing. Why it was so I don't think any of us will know that one.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/2294487.stm

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essaytheytriedtowarnus

[Iceman]

Why? Just because your country does it doesn't mean that you need to conform your moral guidelines.
Wha?..

Ya but who's on first..What is on second!

I don't need to conform to my own moral guidelines?

I'm going on vacation....bb in a few weeks.Did you happen to read the part of pulling our heads out of our asses, no? ok we skipped that part.

Good day

[P_Funk]

Why? Just because your country does it doesn't mean that you need to conform your moral guidelines. Wha?..

Ya but who's on first..What is on second!

I don't need to conform to my own moral guidelines?

I'm going on vacation....bb in a few weeks.Did you happen to read the part of pulling our heads out of our asses, no? ok we skipped that part.

Good day Nvm then. It isn't worth the discussion, though anyway I see I could pose some questions.

Have a nice trip!:yep: (seriously and without any backhanded meaning)

[NefariousKoel]

Alright, if all of our other allies spy on us as well, shouldn't they get caught? I can't seem to find any news stories about British, French, German, or Japanese intelligence officers caught spying on the USA.

PD
There has been a few. Most of it gets swept under the carpet as no big deal, which it is. Labelling a person a spy can be quite subjective.

I certainly recall mention of French spies in the US before, during, and after WW2. Some got caught. (as an example)

[Antidike]

Im a spy i own Google Earth Pro.... I can see you:yep: :rotfl:

:roll:

lol Now I'm scared!

[Heibges]

The U.S. government was warned multiple times of the impending attack by multiple government agencies and did nothing. Why it was so I don't think any of us will know that one.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/2294487.stm

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essaytheytriedtowarnus

Frankly, I think the whole thing would have been avoided if 30 years ago, the Federal Government made it policy that no one could enter or exit the cockpit during flight, and put a secure lock on the door.

IIRC, the lock would added about $50 to the price of the plane.

Maybe AL can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe El Al policy is that the cockpit door remain locked and closed at all times during flight?

[August]

Frankly, I think the whole thing would have been avoided if 30 years ago, the Federal Government made it policy that no one could enter or exit the cockpit during flight, and put a secure lock on the door.

Maybe not. IIRC in one of the hijacked planes the aircrew managed to secure the door but the terrorists just tortured an attendant until they opened it.

That might not work now that the precedent has been set but before 9-11 the expectation was a hijacking meant a hostage situation not a suicide run.

[cobalt]

you're gonna stir up a bees nest ;o
Haven't you heard. Freedom of speech. Freedom of the press. Freedom of the internet and Freedom of thought around here.

Our Moderaters have a special spray for bee's :D


What kind of reply is that?

[Boris]

I'm sure it all pretty true, or that there is a lot of truth to it. Mossad is pretty much everywhere, and I'm sure they have a hell of a lot more than 200 spies in the US. I seem to remember an incident where some Mossad spies were caught in New Zealand and deported a few years back.

[The Avon Lady]

I wonder how you US guys think of this? Is Fox right?


According to FOX news, throughout late 2000 and 2001, a total of 200 Israeli spies were arrested. (13) It was the largest spy ring to ever be uncovered in the history of the United States. The Washington Post also reported that some of these Israelis were arrested in connection with the 9-11 investigation. (14) US. Carl Cameron of FOX News Channel did a excellent four part, nationally televised, series of investigations into this blockbuster scandal. But FOX pulled the investigative series after Zionist groups complained to FOX executives. FOX even went so far as to remove the written transcripts of the series from its website! In it's place was posted a chilling, Orwellian message which reads: "This story no longer exists." (15) Fortunately for the sake of history, the FOX transcripts were copied onto to many other websites and all four parts are available for your review. (see footnotes.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YacvPZr-KDs&mode=related&search=
Shame on you again (this is far from the first time) for spewing such absolute garbage. Welcome to the world of David Duke, Rense and Stormfront.

Try doing even a minimal amount of investigating what you quote and going to their sources. See what's documented and see what follow up reports anywhere from 1 to 4 years later concluded.

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/314/istockphoto2501493thumbhv2.jpg

[Smaragdadler]

I wonder how you US guys think of this? Is Fox right? Try doing even a minimal amount of investigating ...
That's what he is trying to do with this thread...

http://www.cyber-cinema.com/classic/Laurel_hardy_thumbsupB.jpg
...and you are not a guy and not from the US.

[Heibges]

I heard Murdoch is thinking of giving Mel Gibson his own one hour show to go on right after Bill O'Reilley.:lol:

[bradclark1]

Everybody spies on everybody and it's accepted. The one rule is don't get caught doing it because then it makes trouble for everyone.:know: Unless you're Russian or Chinese of course and then it's a serious matter but campaign donation's have been known to work.:hmm:

[waste gate]

Everybody spies on everybody and it's accepted. The one rule is don't get caught doing it because then it makes trouble for everyone.:know: Unless you're Russian or Chinese of course and then it's a serious matter but campaign donation's have been known to work.:hmm:

Not to mention a night in the Lincoln bedroom.

[joea]

Im a spy i own Google Earth Pro.... I can see you:yep: :rotfl:

:roll:
lol Now I'm scared!

You should be....stop picking your nose!! :doh:

[Tchocky]

I was scratching it!

[Fish]

I wonder how you US guys think of this? Is Fox right?


According to FOX news, throughout late 2000 and 2001, a total of 200 Israeli spies were arrested. (13) It was the largest spy ring to ever be uncovered in the history of the United States. The Washington Post also reported that some of these Israelis were arrested in connection with the 9-11 investigation. (14) US. Carl Cameron of FOX News Channel did a excellent four part, nationally televised, series of investigations into this blockbuster scandal. But FOX pulled the investigative series after Zionist groups complained to FOX executives. FOX even went so far as to remove the written transcripts of the series from its website! In it's place was posted a chilling, Orwellian message which reads: "This story no longer exists." (15) Fortunately for the sake of history, the FOX transcripts were copied onto to many other websites and all four parts are available for your review. (see footnotes.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YacvPZr-KDs&mode=related&search=
Shame on you again (this is far from the first time) for spewing such absolute garbage. Welcome to the world of David Duke, Rense and Stormfront.

Try doing even a minimal amount of investigating what you quote and going to their sources. See what's documented and see what follow up reports anywhere from 1 to 4 years later concluded.

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/314/istockphoto2501493thumbhv2.jpg

I was hoping you should come up with that documentation. ;)

So, finaly a picture from you. :lol: