weird periscope problem

[PULSEOX]

Ever since I bought the game my Observation periscope has been unusable.
Fully extended it just shows black. Attack scope was fine.
Tonight I installed RFB mod and now the Observation scope is fine but the Attack scope is dark!
Does this make sense to any one?

[CaptainCox]

Are you sure you did not run any mods prior to RFB ?
Never heard of this problem. As the vanilla SH4 uses the SAME overlay (Texture bitmap) for BOTH Scopes, it does sound very strange.

[elanaiba]

You are extending the Observation scope, right?

[Mush Martin]

Yeah I hate to say it but are you using ins and del (keyboard) to
raise and lower it. One would assume so but I have to ask.

[PULSEOX]

I've raised it both with the keyboard and ingame controls. I hear it raising and lowering-but there is no view inside the scope-completely dark.
What is weird to me is that on the stock game it was the Observation scope-but with the RFB mod- the observation scope works and now its the attack scope that's dark!

[Mush Martin]

it is weird ill admit but I have no insight that would help in this case
reboot or a quick intall of the improved scopes mod ( a favorite )

[PULSEOX]

The mods I'm using are:
1. RFB v 1.28
2. Captain Midnite CBS
3. Betterscopes V 1.2

I've experimented deleting these one at a time, and nothing makes any difference. There's always one scope that's blacked out.

Is there a file somewhere for each scope-so I could just copy one and paste it where the other should be?

[CaptainCox]

I think your problem is RFB and Betterscopes. As RFB already has Betterscopes in it. Did you ever get a warning from JSGME that something "Already has been altered" when loading one of those mods?.

Betterscopes uses a "modded" code line in the .ini to add a "NEW" texture to the Obs Scope, so any error in that code will render that scope useless.

I would recommend a clean install if above solution should not work, and only use RFB.

As for the code, look in the README from Betterscopes, all the modified code is there.

Open the "menu_1024_768.ini" using "Notepad"
Found here:
C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Menu

Check the codes at these locations
[G26 I134]:
old:
Zone= 422 604 180 16 0 1 0x26000002 0.5 -0.5 0x26000004 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/bearing.tga
new:
Zone= 310 104 404 128 0 1 0x26000002 0.5 1.5 0x26000004 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/bearing_big.tga

[G26 I137]:
old:
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/periscope_mask_1024.tga
new:
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/betterscopes_attack.tga

[G26 I144]:
old:
Zone= 217 827 590 885 2 1 0x26060000 0.5 -0.5 0x26140000 -0.5 0.5 0 0
new:
Zone= 0 1536 1024 2304 2 1 0x26060000 0.5 -0.5 0x26140000 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G26 I145]:
old:
Zone= 217 533 590 590 2 1 0x26140000 0 -0.332203 0x26140001 0 0 0 0
new:
Zone= 0 768 1024 1408 2 1 0x26140000 0 -0.11 0x26140001 0 0 0 0

[G26 I146]:
old:
Zone= 217 828 590 295 2 1 0x26140000 0 0.00112994 0x26140002 0 0 0 0
new:
Zone= 0 0 1024 400 2 1 0x26140000 0 0.05 0x26140002 0 0 0 0

[G2B I133]:
old:
Zone= 422 604 180 16 0 1 0x2B000002 0.5 -0.5 0x2B000004 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/bearing.tga
new:
Zone= 212 104 600 128 0 1 0x2B000002 0.5 1.8 0x2B000004 -0.5 0.5 0 0
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/bearing_big.tga

[G2B I136]:
old:
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/periscope_mask_1024.tga
new:
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/layout/betterscopes_observation.tga

[G2B I143]:
old:
Zone= 217 827 590 885 2 1 0x2B060000 0.5 -0.5 0x2B140000 -0.5 0.5 0 0
new:
Zone= 0 1536 1024 2304 2 1 0x2B060000 0.5 -0.5 0x2B140000 -0.5 0.5 0 0

[G2B I144]:
old:
Zone= 217 533 590 590 2 1 0x2B140000 0 -0.332203 0x2B140001 0 0 0 0
new:
Zone= 0 768 1024 1408 2 1 0x2B140000 0 -0.11 0x2B140001 0 0 0 0
[G2B I145]:
old:
Zone= 217 828 590 295 2 1 0x2B140000 0 0.00112994 0x2B140002 0 0 0 0
new:
Zone= 0 0 1024 400 2 1 0x2B140000 0 0.05 0x2B140002 0 0 0 0

[THE_MASK]

I have RFB 1.28 and the scopes work fine .

[joea]

I have RFB 1.28 and the scopes work fine .

Yea but this guy was using RFB AND another mod called "betterscopes" so there wasa a conflict.

[d@rk51d3]

A bit like a conflict that happens with some of the sky mods. You get the sun burning bright, in a pitch black sky.

[PULSEOX]

I had the problem out of the box-before I installed either RFB or Betterscopes!
It just never went away. Thanks for the code- I;ll check that out and see if I can get it fixed. If I can't I think I'd rather live with it, than installing everything over again. From what I understand ther'es not much difference in the 2 scopes, anyway?

[CaptainCox]

There is a difference if you are using Betterscopes or RFB as it has 2 different cross hair overlays.

[CaptBC]

Ahoy!

The obs scope and the attack scope use different keys to raise and lower the scope. The obs scope uses the Insert/Delete keys, the attack scope uses the PageUp/PageDown keys. Both scopes use the same sound files. Hope this helps!

Capt. BC