[TEC] Modifying the watch crew's spotting range

[LukeFF]

Quite honestly, I'm really getting tired of this. Calm seas, a rested watch crew, and my watch officer tells me he can't see this: :roll:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/SH4Img25-6-2007_21.jpg

Frankly, this 8km visibility limit has got to go.

[joea]

Like Sh3 then. :shifty:

[The General]

Just add it to the very long list.

[Hitman]

Just use the submarine sensors tweak file with Mini-Tweaker and set the crew spotting distance as far or a bit more than your horizon. I have horizon at 24000 yards and crew spotting range at 26000 yards.

We both see ships at the same time now:up:

[kv29]

26k yards??? what is the stock visibility range?

[Hitman]

About 10000 yards, i.e. the same as the player can see rendered in screen in stock (I modded mine to see up to 24000 yards). But since the crew has been intentionally programmed to have a bit less ability than the player (To encourage the player to search himself with binoculars) it works better if they have a bit more visual range than the player :up:

[LukeFF]

Just use the submarine sensors tweak file with Mini-Tweaker and set the crew spotting distance as far or a bit more than your horizon. I have horizon at 24000 yards and crew spotting range at 26000 yards.
Gotcha. Which sections of the file contain the spotting ranges I need to adjust? I'm guessing AI_Visual? For the horizon, is this in scene.dat?

[clayp]

Is there any way to do this without the mini tweaker? I havent been able to figure out how to work it....:oops:

[LukeFF]

Bump

[clayp]

Nobody??

[Hitman]

Gotcha. Which sections of the file contain the spotting ranges I need to adjust? I'm guessing AI_Visual? For the horizon, is this in scene.dat?

Yes, there are three AI visual sensors. My wild guess is that they represent Periscope, Bridge lookout and high lookout, so you can realitiscally set different spotting and precision (Range where target can be locked in your view and data are more precise) ranges, yet I can't confirm that and I have no idea of which one is what.

Didn't want to waste time experimenting until I get patch 1.3 and see the final status of the game :hmm:


Is there any way to do this without the mini tweaker? I havent been able to figure out how to work it....:oops:

Yes, but it is even more complicated....you can hex-edit the files, but TT tweaker does that already through a nice interface, so direct hex-editing is a no-no for you if you can't understand the Mini Tweaker


Anyway, if you are interested I can upload for you the files already updated with whatever values you want:yep: :up: It's a matter of minutes:)

[Uber Gruber]

Is it possible to get the Watch Officer (crew) to call out the approx range to the target you're looking at through binnocs or locked onto via targeting binnocs ?

[Hitman]

I think Trigger Maru implemented back the "Report nearest visual contact" key combo and when doing so, your IWO would tell you bearing and distance to closest target. But in stock SH4 it is not available AFAIK:hmm:

[Uber Gruber]

Thanks for reply Hitman, problem is that its not always the closest target I want a range estimate for. Just wondering whether its possible to get range for any target as long as its locked onto via target scope. This would allow me to sweep a convoy or task force and get fast approx ranges for each target without having to identify each ship manually and use stadimeter....makes sense I think ?

[Hitman]

Isn't that option available already when you uncheck the realism option "No weapons officer assitance"? :hmm:

Speaking just out of my head, since I play 100% realism and never bothered studying what the realism options were for :88)

[clayp]

Gotcha. Which sections of the file contain the spotting ranges I need to adjust? I'm guessing AI_Visual? For the horizon, is this in scene.dat?

Yes, there are three AI visual sensors. My wild guess is that they represent Periscope, Bridge lookout and high lookout, so you can realitiscally set different spotting and precision (Range where target can be locked in your view and data are more precise) ranges, yet I can't confirm that and I have no idea of which one is what.

Didn't want to waste time experimenting until I get patch 1.3 and see the final status of the game :hmm:


Is there any way to do this without the mini tweaker? I havent been able to figure out how to work it....:oops:

Yes, but it is even more complicated....you can hex-edit the files, but TT tweaker does that already through a nice interface, so direct hex-editing is a no-no for you if you can't understand the Mini Tweaker


Anyway, if you are interested I can upload for you the files already updated with whatever values you want:yep: :up: It's a matter of minutes:)

Thank you very much...:D Just make them what ever you think they should be..:)

[Uber Gruber]

Isn't that option available already when you uncheck the realism option "No weapons officer assitance"?

Really?!! Cool if so, gonna check this tonight. Like you I play at 100% realism and haven't checked this either :oops:

[Hitman]

Thank you very much...:D Just make them what ever you think they should be..:)

Ummmm just discovered that it will not be compatible with RUB or TM if I use the standard SH4 files....

Do you want it to be compatible with one of those? If so, tell me so I can grab the proper files to start from. Give me an e-mail address per PM in that case so I can send it to you (I don't want to share publically as it would require permission from Beery and/or Ducimus). If you are using stock SH4 or mods that do not affect Scene.dat and US_Subs_Sensors, then I can make it public :up:

[clayp]

Thank you very much...:D Just make them what ever you think they should be..:)

Ummmm just discovered that it will not be compatible with RUB or TM if I use the standard SH4 files....

Do you want it to be compatible with one of those? If so, tell me so I can grab the proper files to start from. Give me an e-mail address per PM in that case so I can send it to you (I don't want to share publically as it would require permission from Beery and/or Ducimus). If you are using stock SH4 or mods that do not affect Scene.dat and US_Subs_Sensors, then I can make it public :up:

Sir I have RFB 1.28 installed...If its going to be a lot of work please dont bother and I can do without....:)

[LukeFF]

Yes, there are three AI visual sensors. My wild guess is that they represent Periscope, Bridge lookout and high lookout, so you can realitiscally set different spotting and precision (Range where target can be locked in your view and data are more precise) ranges, yet I can't confirm that and I have no idea of which one is what.
Got it. So, the only sensor values needed to be adjusted for AI units come from AI_Visual, correct? Is the horizon tweak the zmax value that has to be added to scene.dat?

[Hitman]

Sir I have RFB 1.28 installed...If its going to be a lot of work please dont bother and I can do without....

Whatever you prefer. If you want it, drop me a PM :up:

Got it. So, the only sensor values needed to be adjusted for AI units come from AI_Visual, correct? Is the horizon tweak the zmax value that has to be added to scene.dat?

Yes and no. Subs AI_Visual will determine how far your crew can see. Yet the quality of their spotting inside that radius will be highly affected by the parameters in Sensors.cfg, which control spotting ability in night, fog, distance, etc.

Horizon is the zmax value, that¡s correct. Stock value of "1000" means 8000 metres. Thus a Zmax of 2000 means Horizon at 16000 metres, and 3000 means Horizon at 24000 metres (x2 and x3 respectvely). You can also set any value you want, f.e. 1500 would be 12000 metres :smug:

[Alky]

Hmmm... so where would one find the "mini-tweaker"? or if it's not too much trouble, the modified scene.dat?
My SH4 only has a sound pack added and is ver. 1.2

EDIT: never mind, I found most everything in the sticky at the top of the page :)

[nomad_delta]

Did anyone ever actually make a modified scene.dat file with the extended crew spotting ranges? I'm about to try hacking it together myself w/ the mini-tweaker otherwise, but if someone else has already done it I'll just use that maybe? :)

nomad_delta

[LukeFF]

Getting back to this subject, because I was using the stock spotting ranges tonight for the sub's watch crew, and sure enough, I became aware of the enemy's presence only when they started firing at me, on a moonlight night, under 10,000 yards. :roll:

Anyways, in the tweak file, I see settings for "Visual 1," "Visual 2" and "Visual 3." Within each setting I see two settings, one for "Precise Range' and one for "Max Range." What value should I set for each one, if I want to have my watch crew have a spotting range out to 20,000 meters?

[mookiemookie]

Getting back to this subject, because I was using the stock spotting ranges tonight for the sub's watch crew, and sure enough, I became aware of the enemy's presence only when they started firing at me, on a moonlight night, under 10,000 yards. :roll:

Anyways, in the tweak file, I see settings for "Visual 1," "Visual 2" and "Visual 3." Within each setting I see two settings, one for "Precise Range' and one for "Max Range." What value should I set for each one, if I want to have my watch crew have a spotting range out to 20,000 meters?

Very interested in this myself!

[LukeFF]

Getting back to this subject. I have my lowest value, Visual 1, set to 17000 meters, yet it still takes the watch crew wayyyyyyy too long to spot surface ships than I can see easily, in calm seas and clear skies. Is there another file/parameter I should be looking at? How did the big SH3 mods get around this problem?

[Ducimus]

Jebus.

And here i thought this was a simple fix. M'kay, your looking at two things. Sensors.dat and sensors.cfg, but primarly the sensors.dat

If anyones played Tmaru, you've probably noticed the watchcrew is pretty good at spotting stuff.

All i did was change the visual in the sensor.dat

Precise range stock is 5,000. I increased it to 6,500
Surface factor in stock is 150, i lowered it to 100

The surface factor is acutally a VERY important variable. I could have probably just adjusted the surface factor alone and not even touched the percise range.

Now heres the stock sensors.cfg visual section:

;Visual.
Visual range factor=0.5 ;[>=0]
Visual fog factor=1 ;[>=0]
Visual light factor=0.8 ;[>=0]
Visual waves factor=0.8 ;[>=0]
Visual speed factor=0 ;[>=0]
Visual aspect=0.9 ;[>=0]
Visual enemy speed=0.2 ;[>=0]
Visual noise factor=0 ;[>=0]
Visual sensor height factor=0.5 ;[>=0]
Visual already tracking modifier=600 ;[detection probability modifier], most accurate, once a contact is detected it will lose it very hard
Visual decay time=200 ;[>0] already tracking bonus decay, in seconds
Visual uses crew efficiency=false ;[true or false]


Heres the sensors.cfg im using in TMaru, note, im using probex 9KM visual distance scene.dat, and the visuals are adjusted for such:



;Visual.
Visual range factor=0.3 ;[>=0]
Visual fog factor=0.95 ;[>=0]
Visual light factor=0.6 ;[>=0]
Visual waves factor=0.6 ;[>=0]
Visual speed factor=0 ;[>=0]
Visual aspect=0.9 ;[>=0]
Visual enemy speed=0.2 ;[>=0]
Visual noise factor=0 ;[>=0]
Visual sensor height factor=0.5 ;[>=0]
Visual already tracking modifier=600 ;[detection probability modifier], most accurate, once a contact is detected it will lose it very hard
Visual decay time=200 ;[>0] already tracking bonus decay, in seconds
Visual uses crew efficiency=false ;[true or false]


Thats it guys, thats all there is to it.

[LukeFF]

Jebus.

And here i thought this was a simple fix. M'kay, your looking at two things. Sensors.dat and sensors.cfg, but primarly the sensors.dat

If anyones played Tmaru, you've probably noticed the watchcrew is pretty good at spotting stuff.

All i did was change the visual in the sensor.dat

Precise range stock is 5,000. I increased it to 6,500
Surface factor in stock is 150, i lowered it to 100

The surface factor is acutally a VERY important variable. I could have probably just adjusted the surface factor alone and not even touched the percise range.

Is that the "Visual 1" section in the Tweak file?

[Ducimus]

Well, its whatever visual you want to call it in a tweak file. I made a dynamic tweak file one day when the hex addresses changed.

duplicate this 20 times in proper sequence

[4]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,4,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,4,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,4,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,4,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,4,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,4,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,4,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,4,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,4,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,4,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,4,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,4,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,4,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,4,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,4,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,4,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,4,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,4,single,>2,ElevationMax

And it will be the 16th item/instance of that block.

[LukeFF]

Ducimus, might you upload your sensors.dat file? I think it might just be easier for me to go off the work you've done, since I've probably already borked up my DAT file. :D

(I'm not a TM user).

[corleonedk]

I second that would appreciate it :D

[Ducimus]

Here, i reduced the surface factor to 90 (default is 150 i beleive)
http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/Sensors.zip

Remember, when the watch crew spots spomething between its max range, and precise range is variable. (on primarly the waves and surface factor.)

[Bando]

Thanks man, this really helped. You must have had another tweak file. It took me hours and finally I gave up. Reading this thread almost made me pull my hair out (which i did not, for there are no more hairs on my head anyway:smug: ).
This file is differently tweaked, I can puzzle a little further now....
Thanks Ducimus....:up:

[Warden]

Thank you, your instructions and explanations were very helpful.

[LukeFF]

Thanks, Duce. :)

[Bluesub 6]

I moded manually like @Ducimus describe (#27).
It works fine.
Thanks:up:

[LukeFF]

Well, its whatever visual you want to call it in a tweak file. I made a dynamic tweak file one day when the hex addresses changed.

duplicate this 20 times in proper sequence

[4]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,4,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,4,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,4,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,4,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,4,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,4,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,4,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,4,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,4,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,4,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,4,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,4,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,4,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,4,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,4,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,4,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,4,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,4,single,>2,ElevationMax
And it will be the 16th item/instance of that block.

Okay, time to go back to the drawing board on this one. My watch crew is still utterly incompetent when it comes to sighting surface contacts. Do you mind putting up your tweak file for download so I can take a look at it myself?

[LukeFF]

Bump

[CaptainCox]

Did you try running this with S3D...might do the trick.

[Ducimus]

I'll try and remember to post it when i get home from work several hours hence.

[Digital_Trucker]

List mode, #145 in sensors.dat! Haven't tried the modded file yet, but all the original numbers were what was mentioned, so I ass-u-me-d that I was in the right place.

[LukeFF]

Did you try running this with S3D...might do the trick.
Nah, I've not even downloaded S3D TBH. I guess I should at some point. :ping:

In the meanwhile, instances like this are unexcusable. Calm seas, no fog, sub-10,000-yard distance, and my watch officer tells me he can't see this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/SH4Img14-8-2007_1711.48_171.jpg

This was with the sensors.dat file Ducimus uploaded. I'm assuming his tweaks are tweaked for the 9km visibility settings, which is all fine and well for those with lower-spec machines. 18km is what I'm shooting for.

[Ducimus]

18km is what I'm shooting for.

Your crazy! I say that in all sarcasm... your crazy man! What are you running for a rig? The microcomputer equvlant to a Cray?


Try raising the Precise range to 16,000, and the surface factor to like.... i dunno.. 5! Theoritcally you should have a watch crew that could spot water stains in a periscope lense with those settings.

[nattydread]

Hold on!!! so there is a way for extending the player/graphic visible range?!?!?!

I'd love to have a 24km visible range, with my crew sighting at 20-22km.

[Ducimus]

Heres the full, adhoc tweak file i created after patch 1.3. How i figured out which one was the visual sensor was a just a simple file/stat comparison to the last known version. The visual was located in about the same place in the tweak file as last file version, and the stats for that block as displayed in the mini tweaker before modding seemed to be the same as the last known version, so im pretty sure i got the correct block marked. That and sensortype 0, is visual as i recall as well.




// Game version for these changes.
Version=1.3

// Path to the file we are changing.
Path=data\Library\Sensors.dat

[1]
DropDownName= unknown
search,SensorType,1,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,1,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,1,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,1,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,1,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,1,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,1,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,1,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,1,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,1,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,1,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,1,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,1,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,1,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,1,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,1,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,1,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,1,single,>2,ElevationMax

[2]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,2,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,2,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,2,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,2,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,2,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,2,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,2,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,2,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,2,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,2,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,2,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,2,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,2,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,2,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,2,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,2,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,2,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,2,single,>2,ElevationMax

[3]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,3,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,3,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,3,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,3,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,3,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,3,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,3,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,3,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,3,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,3,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,3,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,3,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,3,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,3,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,3,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,3,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,3,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,3,single,>2,ElevationMax

[4]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,4,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,4,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,4,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,4,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,4,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,4,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,4,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,4,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,4,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,4,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,4,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,4,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,4,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,4,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,4,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,4,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,4,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,4,single,>2,ElevationMax

[5]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,5,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,5,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,5,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,5,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,5,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,5,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,5,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,5,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,5,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,5,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,5,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,5,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,5,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,5,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,5,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,5,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,5,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,5,single,>2,ElevationMax

[6]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,6,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,6,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,6,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,6,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,6,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,6,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,6,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,6,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,6,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,6,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,6,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,6,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,6,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,6,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,6,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,6,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,6,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,6,single,>2,ElevationMax

[7]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,7,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,7,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,7,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,7,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,7,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,7,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,7,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,7,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,7,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,7,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,7,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,7,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,7,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,7,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,7,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,7,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,7,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,7,single,>2,ElevationMax

[8]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,8,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,8,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,8,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,8,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,8,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,8,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,8,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,8,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,8,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,8,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,8,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,8,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,8,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,8,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,8,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,8,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,8,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,8,single,>2,ElevationMax

[9]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,9,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,9,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,9,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,9,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,9,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,9,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,9,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,9,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,9,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,9,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,9,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,9,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,9,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,9,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,9,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,9,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,9,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,9,single,>2,ElevationMax

[10]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,10,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,10,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,10,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,10,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,10,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,10,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,10,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,10,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,10,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,10,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,10,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,10,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,10,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,10,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,10,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,10,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,10,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,10,single,>2,ElevationMax

[11]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,11,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,11,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,11,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,11,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,11,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,11,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,11,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,11,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,11,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,11,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,11,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,11,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,11,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,11,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,11,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,11,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,11,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,11,single,>2,ElevationMax

[12]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,12,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,12,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,12,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,12,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,12,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,12,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,12,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,12,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,12,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,12,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,12,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,12,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,12,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,12,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,12,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,12,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,12,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,12,single,>2,ElevationMax

[13]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,13,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,13,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,13,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,13,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,13,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,13,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,13,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,13,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,13,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,13,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,13,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,13,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,13,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,13,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,13,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,13,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,13,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,13,single,>2,ElevationMax

[14]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,14,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,14,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,14,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,14,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,14,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,14,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,14,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,14,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,14,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,14,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,14,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,14,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,14,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,14,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,14,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,14,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,14,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,14,single,>2,ElevationMax

[15]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,15,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,15,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,15,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,15,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,15,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,15,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,15,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,15,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,15,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,15,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,15,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,15,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,15,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,15,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,15,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,15,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,15,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,15,single,>2,ElevationMax

[16]
DropDownName=Visual
search,SensorType,16,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,16,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,16,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,16,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,16,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,16,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,16,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,16,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,16,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,16,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,16,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,16,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,16,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,16,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,16,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,16,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,16,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,16,single,>2,ElevationMax

[17]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,17,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,17,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,17,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,17,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,17,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,17,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,17,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,17,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,17,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,17,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,17,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,17,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,17,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,17,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,17,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,17,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,17,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,17,single,>2,ElevationMax

[18]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,18,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,18,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,18,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,18,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,18,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,18,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,18,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,18,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,18,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,18,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,18,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,18,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,18,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,18,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,18,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,18,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,18,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,18,single,>2,ElevationMax

[19]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,19,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,19,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,19,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,19,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,19,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,19,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,19,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,19,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,19,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,19,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,19,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,19,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,19,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,19,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,19,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,19,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,19,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,19,single,>2,ElevationMax

[20]
DropDownName=unknown
search,SensorType,20,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,20,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,20,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,20,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,20,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,20,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,20,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,20,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,20,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,20,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,20,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,20,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,20,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,20,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,20,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,20,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,20,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,20,single,>2,ElevationMax

[nattydread]

Oh God!, Im blind...all that is over my head!

[LukeFF]

Your crazy! I say that in all sarcasm... your crazy man! What are you running for a rig? The microcomputer equvlant to a Cray?


Try raising the Precise range to 16,000, and the surface factor to like.... i dunno.. 5! Theoritcally you should have a watch crew that could spot water stains in a periscope lense with those settings.
:rotfl:

Nah, I just want a watch crew that acts like a real-life watch crew should. Right now it seems like they're all escapees from the Glaucoma Society. :shifty:

Oh yeah, thanks for the tweak file. :yep:

[LukeFF]

Shazam! That did it! Thanks, Ducimus. Bumped the max visual range up to 17000 and the Precise Range to 10000, and now all is well again. Now I can finally trust my watch crew to spot targets in a timely manner.

[nattydread]

oK, now I have to know how to do this. i looked at my Sensor.DAT and it in jibberish!!!

[NefariousKoel]

Shazam! That did it! Thanks, Ducimus. Bumped the max visual range up to 17000 and the Precise Range to 10000, and now all is well again. Now I can finally trust my watch crew to spot targets in a timely manner.
Hey Luke can you host that file somewhere?? Or mail it to me and I will. colepope (at) wildblue.net

[LukeFF]

Hey Luke can you host that file somewhere?? Or mail it to me and I will. colepope (at) wildblue.net
http://dodownload.filefront.com/8329621//7daba535e1aea0c2d72469cb0eb6666a5e4a802515461303b4 3d4eefc4fa6d47fcd04257e8b3d562

There you go!