[Req] Who Sent Me this Pic?

[Mush Martin]

This Intriguing picture was sent to me a few months ago and I have
lost some of the details of the story behind the sub, although the
main reason it looks like it does I do recall name date and history
are forgotten.

so Did you send me this?, if so I forgot who you are, please pm me as
I would like the details again.
MM


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/Image3.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Weren't me :nope: Nice photo though :up:

[Mush Martin]

its certainly unique.

[vatek]

That is a photo of either U-234 or U-219. It is a Type X German U-boat primarily designed for minelaying. They also had the distinction of being the largest U-boats ever built. They were also used as cargo haulers, carrying anything from 560kg of uranium oxide (in solid gold cases) to dismantled Me-262 fighters. When not being used for minelaying, freight containers were carried in the mine shafts.

More information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-234
and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Type_X_submarine

[ReallyDedPoet]

That is a photo of either U-234 or U-219. It is a Type X German U-boat primarily designed for minelaying. They also had the distinction of being the largest U-boats ever built. They were also used as cargo haulers, carrying anything from 560kg of uranium oxide (in solid gold cases) to dismantled Me-262 fighters. When not being used for minelaying, freight containers were carried in the mine shafts.

More information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-234
and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Type_X_submarine

I though this was some type of variation of a U-Boat, nice:up:

RDP

[Reece]

Could it be the ww1 U-boat "Deutchland", used as an underwater freighter.

[Mush Martin]

Negative reece I have a pic of deutchland in the same file.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/aftsection-1.jpg



What I do remember is it was told to me that this was an early typeIX with its external torp storage removed
the pic on the wiki page doesnt seem to match the decklines and if I was using it primarily as a cargo hauler
I wouldve left the extra strorage spaces. so I wont say it isnt a type IX definitively but I wont say its not either

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Umm, U-869 (Type IXC/40) had this same experimental deck design... though she was not tasked for minelaying.

[Thniper]

Is the 'white star' on the conning-tower the u-boats insignia?:hmm:
Maybe you could search for this then.

[Mush Martin]

I think the good Kpt Lehman has nailed it right there that matches what
I recall more correctly and my references on they type X lead me to the
conclusion that it isnt one.

[vatek]

Success! I have located that very photo on the vast sea of the internet.

http://www.paolopizzi.com/paolopizzi/reviews/typeix/typeix.htm

Search down the page until you locate the section about the IXd-2 class. The photo on the left is the same one posted here. Incredible range on that boat.

Apparently there were quite a few different U-boats with that odd forward section.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

IIRC, that deck modification was basically just a hydrodynamic experiment.

[Mush Martin]

Success! I have located that very photo on the vast sea of the internet.

http://www.paolopizzi.com/paolopizzi/reviews/typeix/typeix.htm

Search down the page until you locate the section about the IXd-2 class. The photo on the left is the same one posted here. Incredible range on that boat.

Apparently there were quite a few different U-boats with that odd forward section.

Nice find good page too.:up::up:

@KL I think your right and I believe it was a quest for an extra knot.
It basically is a removal of the external stowage. Ill have to dig some
more but it is a real Eye Catcher if your a member of this community.
M

[Jimbuna]

Well spotted vatek :up:
I would never have found that in a million years :nope: ..........despite already having that link bookmarked :damn:

[MGR1]

IIRC, that deck modification was basically just a hydrodynamic experiment.

It could also have been an attempt to improve the dive time of the larger boats.

I've got the Squadron Signal "U-Boats in Action" book with a partial view of a IXC with same cut away deck.

In a way it makes sense - by reducing the size of the forward casing, there's less deck to trap air on the way down.:hmm:

Mike.:)

[Mush Martin]

I had thought it a IXB or C Tarjak from the postion of the picture on
that page had thought it to be a D2 but further up on the page there
is the following under IXC

The 105-mm gun and additional deck armament/fittings were usually discarded for a more hydrodynamic shape of the boat that resulted in a slightly faster underwater speed.

Off to U-Boat.net again then.

[Mush Martin]

Yep IXC/40 I didnt have any luck at Uboat net so I did a google image
search and found this at least.

http://www.motionmodels.com/ships/sub/u896.html

[Jimbuna]

Some crackin models there Mush :rock: :up:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Yeah, nice pic :up:

RDP

[spork542]

I think the U-Boat may be U-875. If one compares the emblem on the conning tower...



http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/Image3.jpg

...with this (From uboataces.com):http://www.uboataces.com/emblems/875.jpg


There is a remarkable similarity between the two. It would be reasonable for this to be U-875, as it was a very late-war boat, and a IXD2.

[Mush Martin]

well I would venture thats a positive ID. Or I think so.
however the deck mod seems to have been on a IXC/40
but assumably the succesful drag reduction technique wasnt
limited to just that model. tentatively an ID as the emblem
is impossibly close.

[Jimbuna]

I think the U-Boat may be U-875. If one compares the emblem on the conning tower...



http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/MartinPicfix/Image3.jpg

...with this (From uboataces.com):http://www.uboataces.com/emblems/875.jpg


There is a remarkable similarity between the two. It would be reasonable for this to be U-875, as it was a very late-war boat, and a IXD2.

That's the one :up:

[TarJak]

If it is the U-875 then it looks like she didn't get up to much. Commissioned in April 44 then sunk in Operation Deadlight after the war. Sunk on 31 Dec, 1945 in position 55.41N, 08.28W

http://uboat.net/boats/u875.htm

[Mush Martin]

You know ive often maintained that the war started in 33
and didnt end until Operation Deadlight was finished in
1946
M

[Jimbuna]

If it is the U-875 then it looks like she didn't get up to much. Commissioned in April 44 then sunk in Operation Deadlight after the war. Sunk on 31 Dec, 1945 in position 55.41N, 08.28W

http://uboat.net/boats/u875.htm

You'd have thought she'd still be in fairly good condition and useable for a few years by one of the Allies :hmm:

[Rhodes]

The U-190 also had this type of deck. The Chief Engenier says in his book that they removed the forward deck, with the place to store the spare torpedos, to improve the diving time.