Anyone else play in realtime?

[flakmonkey]

Im about 3 days into my second realtime patrol (ie 1xTC) , and was wondering if anyone else out there plays in 1X?

It started out of necessity as i use RealNav which means im never 100% certain of my exact position and dont want to increase the TC and risk straying of course or running aground.

So far im really enjoying it as im seeing the sunrises/sunsets and watching the weather slowly changing as the days roll by, rather than just zooming at 1024X untill i find something to sink.

Only problem so far is im fast running out of books to read!

Am i the only one?

[SmokinTep]

I don't have 4 years to finish a career............:lol:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

I intend to when the GWX mod is complete.

No more tedious testing and coordination... just being able to relax and share patrol reports with the GWX dev guys! No more expectations for us...

DiD career... and finally being able to choose a favorite U-number... getting attached to my "crew."

Sounds like pure bliss to me. I'll be able to finally read my U-boat/naval library for enjoyment instead of abusing them as "tools for research."

I even bought and tested a baby monitor so I could do other things around my U-boa... I mean house... while I am sailing. (Yes, I'm dead serious about the baby monitor!:yep: )

I think I'll probably need to sign up for a twelve step program too.

[ReallyDedPoet]

When I retire yes :yep:

But that is close to 20 years from now. At that time I will have a fully modelled, life size VIIC or Gato Class Sub in my backyard, I will play out of it :o.

Good luck to those that do, past, present and future:up:

RDP

[ichso]

Just to sit there and see nothing happens for days wouldn't be very much fun I think. I also don't want to run my PC as a fulltime SH simulator either ;)
Shipping around at 512x (or less if there eventually is something special/dangerous nearby) is relaxed and time expensive enough.

[Jimbuna]

I honestly wish I had the time and patience to give it a go :yep:

[its a viic]

I dont play at more that 512 tc. :D Does that count? :D

[Sailor Steve]

I don't have 4 years to finish a career............:lol:
More like 12, if you do it honestly; that is, when real life intrudes, pausing the game and sitting there for the whole patrol. Letting it run while you do other things still isn't real time.

[btaft]

Do you take a month off after a patrol and tend to real life? Or is the time spent in the bars hoping Bdu won't reassign your boat the med :D

[Schöneboom]

What, Steve? You mean you don't regard your home as your U-boat?? I'm shocked! :lol:
Me, I'm always busy on my boat, while listening for reports from my crew. I wonder if this means my girlfriend is BdU? :huh:

Let's see... I don't see her for long stretches of time... she transmits orders frequently by wireless... Hmmm...

"Return to Base!"
"Jawohl!" :lol:

[Heibges]

I try to play most of the tactical parts in Real Time. But I cruise at 1024 until I get to my patrol area.

[Avatar]

Be careful that you dont get cabin fever. :doh:

[Schöneboom]

Another "You've Been Playing SH3 Too Long" Moment:

While on patrol I was tidying up in the galley, I mean kitchen, and heard a loud buzzing in the air. My first thought: "FLUGZEUG! ALAAARRRM!!!"

It was just a big fly -- but I swear it sounded just like a Hurricane! :lol:

Reminds me of when in "Das Boot" (uncut) the lookout Dufte calls for a crash dive, and it turns out it was probably a bird!

[Hitman]

I suppose the fair thing to do would be to play in real time but catch up with time compression the time you spent far from your PC, so every real life day is a game day....:hmm: A one month patrol per real month of life does not sound bad at all, specially if you consider that you will "skip" the 28 days in base...or will you be able to be without playing SH3 28 days while your U-Boot is virtually refitted? ;)

[Thniper]

Does the fatigue model work correctly, if you start a real time career?:-?

I'm looking forward to start a RT career in about three weeks, when I have more time to play SH3.
Already got me some seaweed and a canister of MDO (marine diesel oil), just for authenticity.:D
Also trained my cockatiel (small parrot) to imitate seagulls.:arrgh!:

Anything I forgot?

[Iron Budokan]

I haven't done careers this way but some patrols. I don't do it all the time but sometimes it's fun. You pick up a lot of contacts.

[Iron Budokan]

Does the fatigue model work correctly, if you start a real time career?



If you use GWX 8-hour fatique model, yes.

[Canovaro]

@Flakmonkey:

I can picture it: you reading a big novel about torpedoes or something for two days, feet on your desk, then suddenly: "SCHIFF GESICHTETT!" You're so surprised you throw your book in the air and literally dive to your computer :rotfl:

But I have to admit, this is the best way to simulate the life of those crewmen. Doing all kinds of things to escape the boring days, then suddenly action all over the place.

I admire you and I envy you ;)

[Sailor Steve]

What, Steve? You mean you don't regard your home as your U-boat?? I'm shocked! :lol:
:rotfl: "I'm shocked! SHOCKED, to find gambling in this establishment!"...oops, wrong genre. No, my life is filled with reading biographies, histories and comic books, as well as games. I also don't play combat flight sims in real time; waiting two hours for those bad nasty Germans to try to take advantage of my poor B-17s is just too much for an old fart like me.

As for your girlfriend being BdU, I wouldn't take the chance; just do as you're told and hope for the best. On the other hand, I don't think Onkel Karl would take too kindly to being told "Yes, dear."

[Ubåtskapten]

Sometime I would like to try a real time patrol. But then I'll probably set SH3Cmdr to set 0x TC when a contact is spotted (to awoid getting rammed when I'm at the store resupplying). And of course I'll get myself some wireless headphones to simulate the crew yelling at me from another part of the boat.:D

[Biggles]

damn it! Real time? I mean, in a flight sim it is thinkable for me, but in SHIII?!:doh:

[Hakahura]

SH3... Good
GWX... Way better


Real Life .... It's *********G real guys!!!!!
Sorry, this games good, but to much to do to little time

Realtime patrol no way:down:



But respect (with grudging jealousy) to those that can and do.

[Stoli]

I play a modified "real time" method based on my wifes mood. I'll use TC to get to and from my hunting area and TC1 while patroling/attacking. Once I'm on TC1, I'll leave the PC, cleanup the kitchen, act interested in what's on TV and keep checking back for contact updates.

Works well.

[maillemaker]

Seeing as how 90% of the time between battles is absolute boredom in the simulator, I can't see how this would add anything to the realism of the simulation.

Other than the boredom factor, sitting at your computer for days on end watching a man on the monitor do a pole dance and watching a dot on the map crawl along in no way compares to life aboard a U-boat, and it certainly isn't entertaining, if you are playing the simulation for entertainment's sake.

The only reason why the "long" missions are valuable at all, even with TC, is it gives you a sense of "stake" in the game. It is, after all, a lot of trouble to invest even a few hours in a patrol and thus you are "vested" in your mission and feel a real sense of loss when you die.

If you could instantly jump from confrontation to confrontation the game would feel like single scenario missions and you would lose this sense of being vested.

I think the game strikes a good balanace even with the TC.

[Hadrys]

I can't imagine a real time whole patrol but I exactly know what you feel. 1xTC is a totally different game. Today I've spent the whole day reading stuff about celestial navigation and trying to get my boat to the patrol point. I don't use TC more than 256 and travel times are long enough. But considering manual navigation and target finding without any indicators on map I need 1xTC. So most of the juice is real time.

OK got to change course in 3 minutes, I'm trying to find that small island SW of Lerwick as my orientation point... yeah am lost :)

[ronbrewer]

Hey Hadrys,

You beat me to it. While reading this thread I was going to bring up manual naviation. You are right, a 1xTC patrol is tailor made for setting your own course and using the sun/stars for navigation. It also brings about good use of the depth finding equipment at the nav. officer's station when the weather turns bad. That will definitely give you things to do in between contacts while running a real time patrol.

One other benefit of a real time patrol is that you have a better chance of locating an enemy on your own since more sound check dives are done to break the monotony of the surface run.

[Hadrys]

One other benefit of a real time patrol is that you have a better chance of locating an enemy on your own since more sound check dives are done to break the monotony of the surface run.

Hi, today is my first try of RealNav and I must say that I was standing near east coast of england (after smashing into it of course) and thinking where to go next no to get lost and find some possible contacts. Now I need to rethink every decision many times! Don't have a clue yet how to make periscope dives not to crack my schedule etc.

PS Do you have any idea of celestial nav? I was trying it the whole day without any success. I don't get that longitude part at all...

[ronbrewer]

It's a simulated sextant reading by performing a CTRL-left mouse click on the map's compase rose. That provides a spot to mark on the map what lat/lon readings you have. Since the .tga file for your sub is made transparent it doesn't show up anymore and the markings are used. I end up making all kinds of notations on the map during patrols to be ready in case the weather turns bad and I no longer am able to measure angles at sunrise/sunset.

Just like the satisfaction of a manual TDC hit on a ship, being able to reach a specific area or intercept a radio contact in the North Atlantic during bad weather is a great feeling too.

[Hadrys]

It's a simulated sextant reading by performing a CTRL-left mouse click on the map's compase rose.

Just like the satisfaction of a manual TDC hit on a ship, being able to reach a specific area or intercept a radio contact in the North Atlantic during bad weather is a great feeling too.

Hey, that's cheating!! Didn't know that feature but it gave away my position precisely...

BTW I was off that small island just 5 km NE. I was going to give it up searching and head NE for Lerwic but now I know I would make it. Quite nice as for the first time!

Ok, I've made some tidying to the RealNav files to use it with GWX without problems and now let's try some celestial nav... only when the weather gets better.

[maillemaker]

Are you saying that the stars shown in the sky at night are actually astronomically accurate? I always wondered about that. I wonder if the phases of the moon are accurate, too?

[Javigato]

Thank goodness I have a wife, 2 beautiful little girls and one little girl to be born very soon that keep me from even thinking about Real TIme with a game!! :D

[ronbrewer]

The CTRL-mouse click is the best we can do right now since the game doesn't come with a sextant. You just have to make sure to do it only at sunrise/sunset since that is the time the sextant is most accurate. A noon shot or star shot is not quite as accurate so I avoid those.

[Hadrys]

The CTRL-mouse click is the best we can do right now since the game doesn't come with a sextant. You just have to make sure to do it only at sunrise/sunset since that is the time the sextant is most accurate. A noon shot or star shot is not quite as accurate so I avoid those.

Thing is that we do have it! Guys claim it's accurate but I don't get it yet...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=114812

[Heibges]

I play a modified "real time" method based on my wifes mood. I'll use TC to get to and from my hunting area and TC1 while patroling/attacking. Once I'm on TC1, I'll leave the PC, cleanup the kitchen, act interested in what's on TV and keep checking back for contact updates.

Works well.

I have perfected a similar strategy. :lol:

[XLjedi]

I don't think I even play my real life in real time...

[Maraz]

The CTRL-mouse click is the best we can do right now since the game doesn't come with a sextant. You just have to make sure to do it only at sunrise/sunset since that is the time the sextant is most accurate. A noon shot or star shot is not quite as accurate so I avoid those.

I don't know where this belief comes from. To make a sunrise/sunset shot you don't need a sextant, only a chronometer. Instead sun/moon/star shots done with the sextant can be very accurate, you can merge shots of different celestial objects to get a quite accurate position (within few miles)

Suggested readings: tutorial about celestial navigation:
http://www.celnav.de/

celestial navigation in the '40s (for aircraft, but for submarines it was just a little easier)
http://www.dc3airways.com/TechEd/te_nav_lr_nav.html

For this reason, it's fair IMHO making a ctrl+click if the sky is clear and it's either night, or you have the sun and the moon in sight at the same moment.

Maraz

[Binky1st]

If you play GWX at 1x speed all the time well you really do need to get a life:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Maraz]

If you play GWX at 1x speed all the time well you really do need to get a life:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Well I think that if you live alone, or are alone for a whole day or week-end, it's doable, you can do other things while playing, like cleaning you home, reading a book, watching TV, even surfing the internet and checking your e-mail if you have a second PC. If you have to go out, simply hit pause.

But you must be ready for "Schiff Gesichtet!!!" :D or the dreaded "Flugzeug Gesichtet!!!", in this further case you have few seconds to act!! :D

But I have a wife and two children so I am not going to try that.

Using 1xTC during engagements is a whole different thing, though, I do it that way (since the ship/convoy is sighted) because I need time for all plottings and calculations.

Maraz

[flakmonkey]

heey Ronbrewer: the game DOES come with a sextant (download realnav!), it drags on from the right side of the screen, and yup you can accuratly shoot the stars with it to get your latitude.

[kiwi_2005]

Tried 1x for 3 weeks, i have never been the same since :88)

I read 9 novels :o:yep:

[ronbrewer]

Thanks for the info on RealNav. I missed that thread in early May. When it was mentioned earlier in this thread I went to Subsim's download page for SH3 and didn't find it. I figured it was some other program for the computer until the link was posted by Hadrys. Definitely going to give this a try this weekend and stop the CTRL-click navigation.

It's things like this that makes Subsim.com about the best forum on the Internet.

[Hadrys]

Thanks for the info on RealNav. I missed that thread in early May. When it was mentioned earlier in this thread I went to Subsim's download page for SH3 and didn't find it. I figured it was some other program for the computer until the link was posted by Hadrys. Definitely going to give this a try this weekend and stop the CTRL-click navigation.

It's things like this that makes Subsim.com about the best forum on the Internet.


If you guys wait up I should in few days, maybe tomorrow post a fixed version for gwx with working torpedo dials, full crew compartments and possibly I'll get rid of sunk ships icons also. The one mentioned in that link is a "dirty version" however it works. Also I'm not sure about the camera thing also so if someone good in celestial nav send me a PM...

[DarkStar173rd]

Not only do I do realtime 1x. but I set the time to the present time, then Alt-Tab out to check email, come here to the forum etc. my 3 kids are grown and have left the nest. Today's the 31st of Aug. Im on my first patrol with NYGM2.6b and its the 3rd of Sept. Time is 23:27. My question to my fellow Kaluens is; I pause and save the game now and wait till the 3rd Sept. 2007 then restart the game sync the time to the present time and date will it stay in sync is there anyone doing this?

Stay Deep

[Shelton]

I cannot believe some of you do this in real time - that is amazing !! I dont think you should though as - maybe run it at 32x max instead of 1x ?

Cheers
Shelton.

[HMCS]

Give me 516x or give me death.

I have a life, fer Pete's sake. And this is just a game.

[BROJD]

Theodore played in real-time:

My wife just read the Kathy Reichs' book Bones to Ashes.

The main character was investigating a murder:

"Dorothee was a regular churchgoer, but stopped attending. No one is certain of the exact date. Though the family was known to be reclusive, neighbors grew worried. Yesterday two parishioners visited the Doucet farm. They found Dorothee and Genevieve dead in an upstairs bedroom. Theodore was downstairs playing Silent Hunter on his computer."

LeManche mistook my quizzical look. "It is a computer game. One does something with submarines."

I knew that. I was surprised LaManche did.

"You went to the scene?" I asked.

LaManche nodded. "The house was a nightmare, rooms crammed with useless trash. Oatmeal cartons. Newspapers. Tin cans. Used tissues. Feces in ziplock baggies."

"Theodore is being held for psychiatric evaluation?"

LaManche nodded.

[Yoriyn]

Yeah! Playing in realtime is cool. I Love it.

[Gezur(Arbeit)]

On my last Patrol (To DN 65) I started in November 16th 1942 and had the first (!!!) (Near Biscay/Heading home) enemy ship contact on December 29th 1942....have fun playing in realtime :D

[codmander]

love 1x play but weather is an issue with it 64k for me seems to be ok but still miss stuff rathar 1x but weather needs to be fixed first

[Yoriyn]

Weather is changing every 32h or 32h after last game load. So my advice is using pause and alt+esc when you must left the game instead of "save and quit". Anyway saving without exit do not reset weather timer.

[Laufen zum Ziel]

Been at sea for three days now heading for AM31 on my VIIC. (1939) Have seen no ships. I have read three books and consumed vast amounts of scotch. If GWX had submarine police I would be in jail.:arrgh!:

ps: Not a 1x fanatic just stupid. Ich danke Gott für die Gehäuse-Musik, Bücher und Scotch.

[mikaelanderlund]

VIIC in 39:hmm: . Try avoid the scotch.

[Yoriyn]

I'm fiveth day on the NordSee (5/09/1939), and nothing. Only what I find was a Holland thug boat (neutral).

[Generis71]

Its great to read peoples ideas and discussions about playing realtime in sims. The great thing about SH3 and also GWX is that it gives us the option to do so, or not. I've considered it, but I don't know if I could manage it. I'm definitely gonna try manual tracking and targetting and take it from there. When I was flying the F19 Stealth Fighter on the Commodore C64, way back in the early 80's i thought I was a real sim user hehe. Wow how things have changed.

Good hunting guys,

Gen

[Kaptain Hans Wolf]

i would love to have a real time carrer, but i simply dont have the time or the patience. but good luck to you, and good hunting!

[ryanwigginton]

If you're a REAL man, you sync the ingame clock with the SH3 clock and begin your patrol on the same day of the year. :lol:

...and when you get back to base, wait however many weeks before beginning your next patrol for real life to catch up!

[Sailor Steve]

And if you die, you put the game away and never play it again. Ever.:dead:

[antikristuseke]

Or charter a boat with a submersible and go out to the exact spot where your sim boat sank and subject yourself to death by taking the chartered submersible to beyond its crush depth, though some might argue this is taking it a wee bit too far:88)

[Jimbuna]

Or charter a boat with a submersible and go out to the exact spot where your sim boat sank and subject yourself to death by taking the chartered submersible to beyond its crush depth, though some might argue this is taking it a wee bit too far:88)

LOL :lol:

[Kumando]

Thanks for the info on RealNav. I missed that thread in early May. When it was mentioned earlier in this thread I went to Subsim's download page for SH3 and didn't find it. I figured it was some other program for the computer until the link was posted by Hadrys. Definitely going to give this a try this weekend and stop the CTRL-click navigation.

It's things like this that makes Subsim.com about the best forum on the Internet.

I stick with the Ctrl click for the time being because that mod doesnt allow to take sun shots, only star shots so you only can fix your position at night (wich is not realistic) and do dead reckoning to fix your position at day wich was not what they did in reality because they used the sextant at day.

[Sailor Steve]

I play a modified "real time" method based on my wifes mood. I'll use TC to get to and from my hunting area and TC1 while patroling/attacking. Once I'm on TC1, I'll leave the PC, cleanup the kitchen, act interested in what's on TV and keep checking back for contact updates.

Works well.
Nice, but why bother? That's still not playing in real time.

[f16falcon]

I try not to compress time too much, but it has to be done from time to time.

[Drakken]

So basically, if I understand correct, playing real time implies pausing when the player has to leave the computer. So, when do you save and exit?

And what if you have to leave or reboot the computer in plain middle of a depth charge and evasion maneuvers? Does saving and exiting alter anything? :arrgh!:

[VirtualVikingX]

Theodore played in real-time:

My wife just read the Kathy Reichs' book Bones to Ashes.

The main character was investigating a murder:

"Dorothee was a regular churchgoer, but stopped attending. No one is certain of the exact date. Though the family was known to be reclusive, neighbors grew worried. Yesterday two parishioners visited the Doucet farm. They found Dorothee and Genevieve dead in an upstairs bedroom. Theodore was downstairs playing Silent Hunter on his computer."

LeManche mistook my quizzical look. "It is a computer game. One does something with submarines."

I knew that. I was surprised LaManche did.

"You went to the scene?" I asked.

LaManche nodded. "The house was a nightmare, rooms crammed with useless trash. Oatmeal cartons. Newspapers. Tin cans. Used tissues. Feces in ziplock baggies."

"Theodore is being held for psychiatric evaluation?"

LaManche nodded.

LOL! Maybe I should recommend this book to my girlfriend... :|\\

[Undefined]

Wow! You guys must have no lives at all. :D

[flag4]

I intend to when the GWX mod is complete.

No more tedious testing and coordination... just being able to relax and share patrol reports with the GWX dev guys! No more expectations for us...

DiD career... and finally being able to choose a favorite U-number... getting attached to my "crew."

Sounds like pure bliss to me. I'll be able to finally read my Uboat/naval library for enjoyment instead of abusing them as "tools for research."

I even bought and tested a baby monitor so I could do other things around my U-boa... I mean house... while I am sailing. (Yes, I'm dead serious about the baby monitor!:yep: )

I think I'll probably need to sign up for a twelve step program too.

Kpt. Lehmann, maybe you could share a few titles from your u-boat library with us - maybe some of the lesser known ones, i would be very interested.
at present i am reading Neither Sharks nor Wolves by Timothy Mulligan.
:yeah:

[PBV]

I wonder if this means my girlfriend is BdU? :huh:

Does she tell you to 'Be more Aggressive'? :arrgh!:

[Yoriyn]

I'm playing x1 TC too.