Is this possible?

[Obduro]

hey,

how can i make the XXI class submarine available at the start of the war?

I would like to try it out and test it ^^

[Packerton]

Welcome to Subsim Kaleun! :up:

As for that you could probly get a GWX dev member to show you a certain part of the files to edit to allow the XXi in 1939.

[Obduro]

thank you :)

um where can i find a GWX dev member?, oh and plz help if you know ^^

[Jimbuna]

To get Type XXI @ 1939 as first assigned boat.

First you need to modify the Basic.cfg
1.Copy the info below:

[SUBMARINE3]
NrMinOff=4
NrMaxOff=8
NrMinPO=14
NrMaxPO=70
NrMinSeamen=0
NrMaxSeamen=70
NbVersion=1
Version0=0; XXI
Name0=XXI
Month0=1
Year0=1939
DaysSpentInBase=0

2. Now goto your Basic.cfg file / open and search for [SUBMARINE3] to find and change the type XXI start year. Then paste all the info above over the original [SUBMARINE3] list.

3. Next with your Basic.cfg still open, Copy the info below:

;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI
[SUBMARINE_AMMO10]
Type=3
Version=0
ForeTubes=6
AftTubes=0
ForeResIntern=17
ForeResExtern=0
ForeResExtra=0
AftResIntern=0
AftResExtern=0
ShellSlots=10
NbYears=7
Renown=11

Year0=1939
ForeTube00=9
ForeTube01=9
ForeTube02=9
ForeTube03=9
ForeTube04=9
ForeTube05=9
ForeResIntern00=10
ForeResIntern01=10
ForeResIntern02=10
ForeResIntern03=10
ForeResIntern04=10
ForeResIntern05=10
ForeResIntern06=3
ForeResIntern07=3
ForeResIntern08=3
ForeResIntern09=3
ForeResIntern010=3
ForeResIntern011=3
ForeResIntern012=9
ForeResIntern013=9
ForeResIntern014=9
ForeResIntern015=9
ForeResIntern016=9
Z01_00=12 ; XXI/1
A01_00=9
A02_00=9
SuperCharger_00=1260
Snorkel_00=1262
Batteries_00=1269
AftBatteries_00=1269
Hydrophone_00=1272
Sonar_00=1274
Radar_00=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_00=1283
Decoy_Launcher_00=1288
SonarCoatings_00=1304
RadarCoatings_00=1305
Renown0=0

Year1=1940
ForeTube10=9
ForeTube11=9
ForeTube12=9
ForeTube13=9
ForeTube14=9
ForeTube15=9
ForeResIntern10=10
ForeResIntern11=10
ForeResIntern12=10
ForeResIntern13=10
ForeResIntern14=10
ForeResIntern15=10
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=3
ForeResIntern18=3
ForeResIntern19=3
ForeResIntern110=3
ForeResIntern111=3
ForeResIntern112=9
ForeResIntern113=9
ForeResIntern114=9
ForeResIntern115=9
ForeResIntern116=9
Z01_10=12 ; XXI/1
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=1260
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1283
Decoy_Launcher_10=1288
SonarCoatings_10=1304
RadarCoatings_10=1305
Renown1=0

Year2=1941
ForeTube20=9
ForeTube21=9
ForeTube22=9
ForeTube23=9
ForeTube24=9
ForeTube25=9
ForeResIntern20=10
ForeResIntern21=10
ForeResIntern22=10
ForeResIntern23=10
ForeResIntern24=10
ForeResIntern25=10
ForeResIntern26=3
ForeResIntern27=3
ForeResIntern28=3
ForeResIntern29=3
ForeResIntern210=3
ForeResIntern211=3
ForeResIntern212=9
ForeResIntern213=9
ForeResIntern214=9
ForeResIntern215=9
ForeResIntern216=9
Z01_20=12 ; XXI/1
A01_20=9
A02_20=9
SuperCharger_20=1260
Snorkel_20=1262
Batteries_20=1269
AftBatteries_20=1269
Hydrophone_20=1272
Sonar_20=1274
Radar_20=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_20=1283
Decoy_Launcher_20=1288
SonarCoatings_20=1304
RadarCoatings_20=1305
Renown2=0

Year3=1942
ForeTube30=9
ForeTube31=9
ForeTube32=9
ForeTube33=9
ForeTube34=9
ForeTube35=9
ForeResIntern30=10
ForeResIntern31=10
ForeResIntern32=10
ForeResIntern33=10
ForeResIntern34=10
ForeResIntern35=10
ForeResIntern36=3
ForeResIntern37=3
ForeResIntern38=3
ForeResIntern39=3
ForeResIntern310=3
ForeResIntern311=3
ForeResIntern312=9
ForeResIntern313=9
ForeResIntern314=9
ForeResIntern315=9
ForeResIntern316=9
Z01_30=12 ; XXI/1
A01_30=9
A02_30=9
SuperCharger_30=1260
Snorkel_30=1262
Batteries_30=1269
AftBatteries_30=1269
Hydrophone_30=1272
Sonar_30=1274
Radar_30=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_30=1283
Decoy_Launcher_30=1288
SonarCoatings_30=1304
RadarCoatings_30=1305
Renown3=0

Year4=1943
ForeTube40=9
ForeTube41=9
ForeTube42=9
ForeTube43=9
ForeTube44=9
ForeTube45=9
ForeResIntern40=10
ForeResIntern41=10
ForeResIntern42=10
ForeResIntern43=10
ForeResIntern44=10
ForeResIntern45=10
ForeResIntern46=3
ForeResIntern47=3
ForeResIntern48=3
ForeResIntern49=3
ForeResIntern410=3
ForeResIntern411=3
ForeResIntern412=9
ForeResIntern413=9
ForeResIntern414=9
ForeResIntern415=9
ForeResIntern416=9
Z01_40=12 ; XXI/1
A01_40=9
A02_40=9
SuperCharger_40=1260
Snorkel_40=1262
Batteries_40=1269
AftBatteries_40=1269
Hydrophone_40=1272
Sonar_40=1274
Radar_40=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_40=1283
Decoy_Launcher_40=1288
SonarCoatings_40=1304
RadarCoatings_40=1305
Renown4=0

Year5=1944
ForeTube50=9
ForeTube51=9
ForeTube52=9
ForeTube53=9
ForeTube54=9
ForeTube55=9
ForeResIntern50=10
ForeResIntern51=10
ForeResIntern52=10
ForeResIntern53=10
ForeResIntern54=10
ForeResIntern55=10
ForeResIntern56=3
ForeResIntern57=3
ForeResIntern58=3
ForeResIntern59=3
ForeResIntern510=3
ForeResIntern511=3
ForeResIntern512=9
ForeResIntern513=9
ForeResIntern514=9
ForeResIntern515=9
ForeResIntern516=9
Z01_50=12 ; XXI/1
A01_50=9
A02_50=9
SuperCharger_50=1260
Snorkel_50=1262
Batteries_50=1269
AftBatteries_50=1269
Hydrophone_50=1272
Sonar_50=1274
Radar_50=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_50=1283
Decoy_Launcher_50=1288
SonarCoatings_50=1304
RadarCoatings_50=1305
Renown5=0

Year6=1945
ForeTube60=9
ForeTube61=9
ForeTube62=9
ForeTube63=9
ForeTube64=9
ForeTube65=9
ForeResIntern60=10
ForeResIntern61=10
ForeResIntern62=10
ForeResIntern63=10
ForeResIntern64=10
ForeResIntern65=10
ForeResIntern66=3
ForeResIntern67=3
ForeResIntern68=3
ForeResIntern69=3
ForeResIntern610=3
ForeResIntern611=3
ForeResIntern612=9
ForeResIntern613=9
ForeResIntern614=9
ForeResIntern615=9
ForeResIntern616=9
Z01_60=12 ; XXI/1
A01_60=9
A02_60=9
SuperCharger_60=1260
Snorkel_60=1262
Batteries_60=1269
AftBatteries_60=1269
Hydrophone_60=1272
Sonar_60=1274
Radar_60=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_60=1283
Decoy_Launcher_60=1288
SonarCoatings_60=1304
RadarCoatings_60=1305
Renown6=0

4. Now go BACK to your Basic.cfg file and search for [SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI to find the parameters related to the type XXI sub. Then paste all the info above over the original [SUBMARINE_AMMO10];XXI list.

5. Still in your Basic.cfg, search for and Edit the [CONING_TYPE12] ;XXI/1 section. Change Year=1943 to Year=1939.

6. Still in your Basic.cfg, search for and Edit the [AMMO_TYPE9];2cm FK C/38 Flakzwiling XXI section. Change Year=1943 to Year=1939.

SAVE

Now we need to edit the Flotillia.cfg.
1.Open the file.
2.Find the flotilia section you need to edit. For example we want add type XXI to the 1st flotillia which has the Flotilla0=902 id.

3.In the Flotilla0=902 section find the NbUboats0=2 string and change it to NbUboats0=3 string. This is the number of available submarines.

4. Now we need to specify a new third submarine. Find the following strings:
Uboat0_0=0
Uboat0_1=1

5. Copy/Paste the lines below over the above:
Uboat0_0=3
Uboat0_1=0
Uboat0_2=1

6. Repeat this steps for other flotillias if you need. For example for the 2nd Flotillia:

NbUboats1=3

Uboat1_0=3
Uboat1_1=2
Uboat1_2=1

7. Save. By doing it so, like above, the Type XXI becomes your default start boat, no need to "Buy" it.


Now to fix the sub files.

1. Goto the Type XXI Sub folder found in */Silent Hunter III/Data/Submarine/NS_Uboat21.

Copy the info below:

;equiment cfg file, high level of detail

[Equipment 1]
NodeName=A01
LinkName=20mm21_UFlak
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Equipment 2]
NodeName=A02
LinkName=20mm21_UFlak
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

2. Open the NSS_Uboat21.eqp fie, select all, paste. Save

3. Copy all the info below.

; sensor configuration file

;lookout on conning tower
[Sensor 1]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=Visual
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;atack periscope
[Sensor 2]
NodeName=O02
LinkName=Periscope
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Observation periscope
[Sensor 3]
NodeName=O03
LinkName=Periscope
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Hydrophone
[Sensor 4]
NodeName=H01
LinkName=Hydrophone
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Hydrophone2
[Sensor 5]
NodeName=H02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Sonar
[Sensor 6]
NodeName=N01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Radar
[Sensor 7]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;RadioDF
[Sensor 8]
NodeName=D01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

;Radar Warning
[Sensor 9]
NodeName=C01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Sensor 10]
NodeName=R02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

[Sensor 11]
NodeName=D02
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

4. Open the NSS_Uboat21.sns file. Select all, paste. Save.

5. Start game. You should now have the Type XXI as your Default Start Boat. :up:

[tdean001]

hey,

how can i make the XXI class submarine available at the start of the war?

I would like to try it out and test it ^^
Welcome to Subsim!

If you use SH3 Commander, I think you can change the availability date for the XXI by editing the u-boat availability.cfg file located in /program files/SH3 commander/CFG. Just change the month & year to whatever you want. :hmm:

If you don't use SH3 Commander, I'm not sure how to do it. Someone smarter than I will have to help ya ;)

Tom

EDIT :
Apparently it's a little more complicated then I thought and Jim beat me to it, anyway ;)

[Jimbuna]

Apparently it's a little more complicated then I thought

Your spot on there matey :yep: :up:

[Obduro]

cool thx ^^ and yes i use SH 3 commander its an awesome program.

well, ive tried your description but i just cant get it to work :/ dont know what ive done wrong.

[Jimbuna]

cool thx ^^ and yes i use SH 3 commander its an awesome program.

well, ive tried your description but i just cant get it to work :/ dont know what ive done wrong.

Which one? The SH3 Cmdr or the Basic Cfg? :hmm:

[Obduro]

i got it to work, thank you! :D


say is there anyway to modify the XXI ? so i can make it even better ^^ just for fun!

oh and is it possible to make the late period torpedoes available early as well?

[Lagger123987]

Welcome to SubSimFourms where a lot of subsim longers will help your needs.

[Obduro]

how can i modify u boat speed, crush depth how far it can dive and periscope depth etc?

[CapZap1970]

Obduro:
To modify your torps availability you must go to the basic.cfg file, scroll down until you find the following section:

[TORPEDO_TYPE0];T I (G7a)
Idx=0
Year=1939
Month=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE1];T I FaT I (G7a)
Idx=1
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypeMonth=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE2];T II (G7e)
Idx=2
Year=1939
Month=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE3];T III (G7e)
Idx=3
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypeMonth=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE4];T III FaT II (G7e)
Idx=4
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypeMonth=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE5];T IV (G7es) - Falke
Idx=5
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypeMonth=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE6];T V (G7es) – Zaunkönig I
Idx=6
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypeMonth=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE7];T I LuT I (G7a)
Idx=7
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypeMonth=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE8];T III LuT II (G7e)
Idx=8
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypeMonth=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE9];T XI (G7es) – Zaunkönig II
Idx=9
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypeMonth=1
Renown=0
[TORPEDO_TYPE10]; T VII - Steinbarsch Walter (G7ut)
Idx=10
Year=1939
Month=7
PrototypeYear=1939
PrototypMonth=1
Renown=0

As you can see, the years of availability for each torp has been modified. You must do the same or copy and paste the info above on top of the info in your file.
Then, you must go to the Flotilla.cgf file and look for the first entry:

[Flotilla]
NbFlotilla=8
NbStartingFlotilla=8
Flotilla0=902
TO0=940
NbStartingDate0=6
NbDate0=6
Emblem0=data/Emblems/SubEmblems/Flotillas/1st flotilla.tga
NbBases0=2
Base0_0=750;Kiel
Date0_0_0=1939
Month0_0_0=9
Date0_0_1=1941
Month0_0_1=5
DeparturePointLong0_0=1218360.000000
DeparturePointLat0_0=6521927.000000
Heading0_0=89.000000
Base0_1=751;Brest
Date0_1_0=1941
Month0_1_0=6
Date0_1_1=1944
Month0_1_1=8
DeparturePointLong0_1=-534234.000000
DeparturePointLat0_1=5805771.000000
Heading0_1=180.000000
NbUboats0=4
Uboat0_0=0
Uboat0_1=1
Uboat0_2=2
Uboat0_3=3
Date00=1939
Month00=9
Starting00=Yes
TypeSub00=0; IIA
VersionSub00=0
iNbName00=3
Name000=U-1
Name001=U-2
Name002=U-3
T0_000=60
T0_001=60
T1_000=60
T1_001=60
T2_000=60
T2_001=60
T3_000=60
T3_001=60
T4_000=60
T4_001=60
T5_000=60
T5_001=60
T6_000=60
T6_001=60
T7_000=60
T7_001=60
T8_000=60
T8_001=60
T9_000=60
T9_001=60

Copy and paste the info above replacing the first entry in your file, and not just the green part, but the whole text. The green text is just to show you what does what. This will do 2 things:
1.- It wll make all u-boat types available for that Floilla/Year (II, VII, IXD2 and XXI)

NbUboats0=4
Uboat0_0=0
Uboat0_1=1
Uboat0_2=2
Uboat0_3=3

2.- For that year, every time you go to that port when you finish your mission, you will have 60 torps available of each type, if you made the change in the basic.cfg file.
T0_000=60
T0_001=60
T1_000=60
T1_001=60
T2_000=60
T2_001=60
T3_000=60
T3_001=60
T4_000=60
T4_001=60
T5_000=60
T5_001=60
T6_000=60
T6_001=60
T7_000=60
T7_001=60
T8_000=60
T8_001=60
T9_000=60
T9_001=60

Now, you have to repeat the same process for every Flotilla/Year you want it to happen. It's kind of long, but once you are done, you have it ready.
A little piece of advice: backup your files before making changes in case you want to go back to original configuratons.
I hope this helps you kaleun. If you have more questions, just send me a PM if you want. :up:
CapZap

[Spruence M]

Hey Hey.

Just used this info to move the xxi to november 43.

I hope it worked as we shall see.

If anyone can e-mail me a basic.cfg I would appriciate it, because I forgot to back mine up.

PM me for address please.

Yes, Dumb thing too do.

[Spruence M]

I followed these directions exactly(Instead in the flotta.cfg I only modifyed the 11th flottilla. Instead of getting the option to upgrade to the XXI I now have the options of:

Type IIA
Type IIA
Type IIA
Type IIA
Type IIA
Type IIB
Type IIB
Type IIB
Type IIB
Type IIB
Type VIIC

Little help here please

[Spruence M]

So I thought I would be clever, and re-due the flotta cfg for 11th flotilla exactly the same as the above, now, there are NO uboats available in the 11th flotta...:oops: :hmm:

[Spruence M]

actually, don't need to email the basic cfg. If a helping hand could just copy the whole thing and paste it into this forum, that would work, then I could just construct a new one for backup.