[REL] FooBor's High-res skins (clean & weathered)

[FooFighters]

Hello captains,

Thanks for visiting my hi-res skins page.

Last added files : Narwhal class
Released sub types : S-Class, Narwhal , Porpoise, Salmon, Sargo, Tambor/Gar, Gato, Balao

You can also find all skins on my website
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter

Due to max limitations of pictures per post, I cannot show all pictures with all boats.
Pictures can usually be found further down this thread.

All skins in order of (released) Sub classes..

S-Class standard clean version (pre-WWII)

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SCLASSHIV1.0.rar

S-Class black clean version (1941-45)

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/S11.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SCLASSHIBLACKV1.0.rar

Narwhal class black

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/nar3.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/NarwhalHiV1.rar

Porpoise class minor weathered version (late war)

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por2big.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/PorpoiseHiMWTHV1.0.rar

Porpoise class heavy weathered version (late war)

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/PorpoiseHiHWTHV1.0.rar

Porpoise class black version

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/porb3big.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/PorpoiseHiBLKV1.0.rar

Salmon class clean version (late war)
Pictures can be found in this topic
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112995&highlight=salmon

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SalmonHiV1.0.rar

Salmon class black clean version (early war)


Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SalmonHiBLV1.0.rar

Sargo class minor weathered version V1.0
More pictures on page 6 of this thread

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SA1.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SargoHiMWTHV1.0.rar

Sargo class heavy weathered version V1.0

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SargoHiHWTHV1.0.rar

Sargo class black weathered version V2 NEW !!

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/leo5.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SargoHiBLKV2.rar

Tambor / Gar class minor weathered version V1.0
More pictures on page 5 of this thread

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T10.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/TamborHiMWTHV1.0.rar

Tambor / Gar class heavy weathered version V1.0

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T12.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/TamborHiHWTHV1.0.rar

Tambor / Gar class black weathered version V1.0

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/TamborHiBLV1.0.rar

USS Gato standard clean version (late war)

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/GatoHiV2.rar

USS Gato Weathered version (late war)

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Gatoweathered.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/GatoHiWTHV10.7z

USS Gato black clean version (early war)

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/GATOBLACKV10.rar

USS Whale / Silversides standard clean version (Gato, late war)

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/USSWhale2.gif

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/USSWhale.rar

Balao class standard clean version (late war)

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/BalaoHiV3.rar

Balao class black clean version (early war)

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Bal2.jpg

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/BALAOBLACKV10.rar

Balao class standard weathered version V1.0
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/BalaoHiwth1.gif

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/BalaoHiWTHV1.0.rar

USS Balao replica weathered skin version V1.0

Download link :
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/USSBalaoHiV1.0.rar

[Sailor Steve]

Nice, but you might want to adjust the name a little. Some of the best SH3 skins were created by a member known as Fubar. Wouldn't want too much confusion.:sunny:

[FooFighters]

Nice, but you might want to adjust the name a little. Some of the best SH3 skins were created by a member known as Fubar. Wouldn't want too much confusion.:sunny:

To be honest.. this is our way to honor Fubars work for SHIII.
My subsim name is FooFighters, and Boris is.. well Boris :p
Together they form FooBor..

:up:

[Boris]

Heres another nice screen taken at sunset:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7668/sunsetje9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[LZ_Baker]

Nice work guys. Love the skins! Keep 'em coming :up:

EDIT on seeing Avatar - Yes! Shore leave!! :doh:

[ATR-42]

dam you guys did a great job!:up:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice:up:

RDP

[Mechman]

Sweetness. What all improvements for V 1.2 of the skin?

[FooFighters]

Sweetness. What all improvements for V 1.2 of the skin?

* Used some parts of Boris texture to improve a more smooth look
* Used the ballast holes on the bow/side like in the weathered skin. They are now a bit lower and the bottom row now gets smaller until it reach the black part.
* Changed the anchor color to grey (instead of black)
* Screws are copper colored (instead of black)

The pictures of V1.2 are not completely up to date.. They are V1.1b :)
I will add some new pictures tonight.

:up:

[Mechman]

Nice. Great skins all around. To be honest though, I can't really tell the difference between the weathered and the USS balao weathered versions.
There does seem to be an odd seam by the bow of the weathered versions too, or maybe it's just me.

[Boris]

The USS Balao skin is based on photos of the USS Balao, replicating it's paint scheme as close as possible.
The other skin has a wavy painted deckline as seen on many boats of the time, and a standard Measure 32/3SSB paintscheme of gradiated greys at the rear.

[FooFighters]

Nice. Great skins all around. To be honest though, I can't really tell the difference between the weathered and the USS balao weathered versions.
There does seem to be an odd seam by the bow of the weathered versions too, or maybe it's just me.

On this picture you clearly see the seam on the bow
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/USSBalao3.jpg

Here you can see that the paintscheme off the Balao is not the standard Measure 32/3SSB.
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/USSBalao4.jpg

[sqk7744]

Awesome Job!!

Any chance of a Hi-rez Thresher skin? :cool:

[FooFighters]

Awesome Job!!

Any chance of a Hi-rez Thresher skin? :cool:

Maybe.. maybe :p ;)

[FooFighters]

Here's some V1.2 clean screenies

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/BalaoHi13.gif

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/BalaoHi14.gif

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/BalaoHi15.gif

[Sailor Steve]

To be honest.. this is our way to honor Fubars work for SHIII.
I can't argue with honoring someone.:rock:

[GSpector]

Just wondering, did you find some way to correct the mirrored numbering?

[FooFighters]

Just wondering, did you find some way to correct the mirrored numbering?

Nope.. I wish I could solve that problem :hmm:

[Boris]

Just wondering, did you find some way to correct the mirrored numbering?
Nope.. I wish I could solve that problem :hmm:

It is possible to re-uv map the textures so that there are two texture panels, one for each side of the sub. But we'd need someone who can do this.

[CaptainCox]

I think someone did this for SH3...could be wrong, but thought I read it somewhere.

[FooFighters]

Just wondering, did you find some way to correct the mirrored numbering?
Nope.. I wish I could solve that problem :hmm:

It is possible to re-uv map the textures so that there are two texture panels, one for each side of the sub. But we'd need someone who can do this.

That would mean even more work :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[MaxT.dk]

Am I stupid or I'm the only one who can't get this skin to work?

As I understood, this is the high resolution skin for Balao. And I have the Balao in game, but after enabling the mod (1st link in this thread), I still use the old original skin (as I can see game uses NSS_Balao_T01_lr.dds and NSS_Balao_T02_lr.dds if I'm not mistaken). And I haven't see anywhere in the game where I could set my sub to use low resolution skin or a high one...

Is this mod not automatic then? Do I have to change something manually?


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never mind, I've just named the new skin files in the same way as the old ones...

[FooFighters]

Am I stupid or I'm the only one who can't get this skin to work?

As I understood, this is the high resolution skin for Balao. And I have the Balao in game, but after enabling the mod (1st link in this thread), I still use the old original skin (as I can see game uses NSS_Balao_T01_lr.dds and NSS_Balao_T02_lr.dds if I'm not mistaken). And I haven't see anywhere in the game where I could set my sub to use low resolution skin or a high one...

Is this mod not automatic then? Do I have to change something manually?


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never mind, I've just named the new skin files in the same way as the old ones...

The NSS_Balao_T01_lr.dds are the low-res files and NSS_Balao_T01.dds the hi-res version. It should automaticly work when enabled with JGSME.

The problem be in the options menu. Did you enable "use normal textures" ?

[MaxT.dk]

The NSS_Balao_T01_lr.dds are the low-res files and NSS_Balao_T01.dds the hi-res version. It should automaticly work when enabled with JGSME. Yeah, I sort of figured it out :roll:


The problem be in the options menu. Did you enable "use normal textures" ? Haven't found that setting anywhere... Are you talking about Options > Graphic settings > Texture Quality High ?

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/489/texturequalityhighft5.jpg

As you can see, mine isn't checked... And if THIS is the cause of the problem, then maybe you should state in your README about this (I'm not complaining, it's just for the future and to make it more userfriendly)

[Mechman]

Since this threads back alive, any ETA on the next skins?
Been looking forward to the new salmon.

[FooFighters]

The problem be in the options menu. Did you enable "use normal textures" ? Haven't found that setting anywhere... Are you talking about Options > Graphic settings > Texture Quality High ?

As you can see, mine isn't checked... And if THIS is the cause of the problem, then maybe you should state in your README about this (I'm not complaining, it's just for the future and to make it more userfriendly)[/quote]

No that one is for damage models.. I mean the "ship normal maps" option in the options menu.

It was stated in the first readme.. But I checked it and it's gone in the last one.
Strange? But I will put it back in there. Thanks :up:

[FooFighters]

Since this threads back alive, any ETA on the next skins?
Been looking forward to the new salmon.

I am struggling a bit with the Salmon. It's 95% ready.
But I have one big problem with it. I cannot get the bow planes blue/grey.
This part of the texture is used on several parts of the boat.
When I change the color to grey.. Parts of the rudder, screws and bottom of the ship will turn grey to. And I realy don't like the planes to be so dark.

But for now I think I will release it like this.

[CaptainCox]

Have you pinpointed the "exact" location of the bow-planes in the texture. I had huge probs when doing the "RedFin" I remember. Finally I used the "checker board" trick to exactly locate the area.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=463540&postcount=1
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=532322&postcount=4

EDIT: just reread ur post. Seems you have found it, but that the boat uses that area on more parts...my bad.
I guess...one could tweak it in 3D MAX and hex...and simply add a new tex for that bowplane. Not something i am yet capable of doing but can be done 100%

[FooFighters]

Have you pinpointed the "exact" location of the bow-planes in the texture. I had huge probs when doing the "RedFin" I remember. Finally I used the "checker board" trick to exactly locate the area.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=463540&postcount=1
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=532322&postcount=4

EDIT: just reread ur post. Seems you have found it, but that the boat uses that area on more parts...my bad.
I guess...one could tweak it in 3D MAX and hex...and simply add a new tex for that bowplane. Not something i am yet capable of doing but can be done 100%

Same here.. know it's possible, but I do not have the program or the experience.

[MaxT.dk]

I will look for that setting, thanks FooFighters.

At the same moment, did any of you seen a Balao skin that would look like this one:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/ernstjuenger321/SubsimSig.png

I don't care if it's historical correct or not, I just want it :smug:

Any ideas? :)

[MaxT.dk]

No that one is for damage models.. I mean the "ship normal maps" option in the options menu.

It was stated in the first readme.. But I checked it and it's gone in the last one.
Strange? But I will put it back in there. Thanks :up:

I've just tried to turn on and off that setting and in both cases my sub had the old original rusty skin...

Here's preview of my Balao skin folder (X:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Submarine\NSS_Balao)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7653/balaomg6.gif

Any other ideas?

(as said, renaming the new skin files to *_lr.* worked, but that's not a "JGSME compatible", is it?)

[FooFighters]

No that one is for damage models.. I mean the "ship normal maps" option in the options menu.

It was stated in the first readme.. But I checked it and it's gone in the last one.
Strange? But I will put it back in there. Thanks :up:

I've just tried to turn on and off that setting and in both cases my sub had the old original rusty skin...

Here's preview of my Balao skin folder (X:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Submarine\NSS_Balao)

Any other ideas?

(as said, renaming the new skin files to *_lr.* worked, but that's not a "JGSME compatible", is it?)

Somehow.. somewhere you're game uses low-res skins.
I don't know how :hmm:

If you unpack the rar file.. And change the name of the dds skin files.
And then put it in the mods map of JGSME.. then it is compatible.

But it still a route around the the problem.. somewhere you're game is using low-res textures.

[FooFighters]

I will look for that setting, thanks FooFighters.

At the same moment, did any of you seen a Balao skin that would look like this one:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/ernstjuenger321/SubsimSig.png

I don't care if it's historical correct or not, I just want it :smug:

Any ideas? :)

Not in hi-res, only with original SHIV textures
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109055

If you ask captain cox nicely, maybe he wants to do a hi-res version.
He can use my skin.. no problem.

[MaxT.dk]

1) yeah... somewhere... somehow... oh well.. I've did it manually, no problems :)
2) great! thanks man! I've asked him if he could do it :) :up:

[CaptainCox]

Oh dear :p...well I am at the mo doing something completely different...but the day is young ;)...Let me finish what i am doing and I will maybe look in to it in some hours. Or if someone beats me to it, please do it!

[MaxT.dk]

I can wait some hours ;) AND I can beat you if that's what you like ;) Oh wait, that's not what you've said... ;)

Anyhow, thanks for just promising it :) I'll wait! :arrgh!:

[Julius Caesar]

I will look for that setting, thanks FooFighters.

At the same moment, did any of you seen a Balao skin that would look like this one:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/ernstjuenger321/SubsimSig.png

I don't care if it's historical correct or not, I just want it :smug:

Any ideas? :)

Not in hi-res, only with original SHIV textures
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109055

If you ask captain cox nicely, maybe he wants to do a hi-res version.
He can use my skin.. no problem.


PLEASE captain cox! make hi-res version of Gato Ss-272 Redfin :rock:

[FooFighters]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Captain Cox for President (of SH-IV)

[CaptainCox]

BHA!!!! NO WAY!...I just love the game, the trixing and fixing in various graphic/3D software (sad i know :p) and this comunity...A real marine...is a SUBMARINE...ALL THE WAY!

[MaxT.dk]

YEEEEEEHAAAAAW!

Oh wait, that's what Cowboys said... What did Marines said? :hmm:

[jdkbph]

Just out of curiosity.... would getting the screws to turn the right way be a "skins" thing or a "change the code" type thing?

JD

[MaxT.dk]

What screws? post a screenshot.
But if I'm not mistaken, there aren't any screws in the skin files...

[CaptainCox]

The right way?...what is the right way (I am truly interested as i like "historically correct stuff" And it would not be in the skins like MaxT.dk said...that would be some animation file...down the long line of animation files....ZZZzzz off to bed anyhow ;).

[jdkbph]

Sorry, I assumed this was previously reported. It's no big deal really... it's just that the screws turn in the wrong direction. They turn in reverse when the boat is going forward. A screen shot wouldn't help... you have to actually watch them rotate.

I just thought if the screws were depicted as a texture on a disk or something, the texture might easily be reversed. But like I said... lest anyone get the impression I'm being seriously anal :-? ... it's no big deal.

JD

[Boris]

Well the screws are textured of course, and they're on the sub texture file. But the actual screw is a rotating 3D object, which hasn't got a thing to do with what colour it is.

[Mechman]

Since this threads back alive, any ETA on the next skins?
Been looking forward to the new salmon.

I am struggling a bit with the Salmon. It's 95% ready.
But I have one big problem with it. I cannot get the bow planes blue/grey.
This part of the texture is used on several parts of the boat.
When I change the color to grey.. Parts of the rudder, screws and bottom of the ship will turn grey to. And I realy don't like the planes to be so dark.

But for now I think I will release it like this.

Not to put pressure on you, but you COULD just move on to the s-boat.
It may be old and crappy, but it doesn't need old and crappy textures.

[Julius Caesar]

Since this threads back alive, any ETA on the next skins?
Been looking forward to the new salmon.

I am struggling a bit with the Salmon. It's 95% ready.
But I have one big problem with it. I cannot get the bow planes blue/grey.
This part of the texture is used on several parts of the boat.
When I change the color to grey.. Parts of the rudder, screws and bottom of the ship will turn grey to. And I realy don't like the planes to be so dark.

But for now I think I will release it like this.

Not to put pressure on you, but you COULD just move on to the s-boat.
It may be old and crappy, but it doesn't need old and crappy textures.

True. I bet that a lot of players play the S class (bigger challenge?).

[DS]

Just tried your weathered Balao class (not the USS Balao version). It's officially become my favorite skin.

Thanks for the work guys!

(Click for bigger version)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6937/sh4img205200724214229bq5.th.png (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh4img205200724214229bq5.png)

[FooFighters]

Just tried your weathered Balao class (not the USS Balao version). It's officially become my favorite skin.

Thanks for the work guys!

(Click for bigger version)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6937/sh4img205200724214229bq5.th.png (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh4img205200724214229bq5.png)

Good to hear.. Boris did a perfect job with the weathering..
I love it too !

[Boris]

Hi Captains,

after a long pause I have finally given the Foofighter's hi-res Gato skin the same treatment I gave the Balao skin.
The result is a more weathered look, with weather-beaten metal and other amounts of rust and wear.
This is thus the second FooBor release, a combination of Foofighter's and my own efforts.

If there is enough interest I will also do the USS whale variant.


http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1787/sh4img147200719023468jx9.jpg

Download:
http://s1.quicksharing.com/v/2087269/FooBor_s_hi_res_Gato_Weathered.7z.html (http://s1.quicksharing.com/v/2087269/FooBor_s_hi_res_Gato_Weathered.7z.html)

[CaptainCox]

Brilliant Boris! looks brilliant:up:
Goes in my JSGME MOD folder pronto!

[Tranton]

Very nice Mister Boris! downloading now! :|\\

[Bluesub 6]

Realy nice work:up:
Balao and Gato skin installated.

[bunkerratt]

nice work man...loading it now and going to the marshalls ......as a side note ..would you consider doing a balao weathered? ...again nice work ..thank you ...:|\\

[Von Manteuffel]

:up: Really superb work, Boris! Many thanks :up:

[Bando]

Looking good
You guys are artists. No doubt

Thanks a lot

[DS]

nice work man...loading it now and going to the marshalls ......as a side note ..would you consider doing a balao weathered? ...again nice work ..thank you ...:|\\

The Balao was released previously:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=113835&highlight=Balao+Weathered

[bunkerratt]

thank you ....:damn:

[Horst Mikaelis]

That night shot is a beaut!!!

Thanks.

Horst

[ming]

I dont want to sound pushy or anything, but any word on the s-boat skin?

[FooFighters]

I dont want to sound pushy or anything, but any word on the s-boat skin?

Nothing yet.. just came home from holiday in Sweden.
But I thought I saw an other members release of a high-res S-boat.

Here it is.. I did not checked it out yet..
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118227

[Bando]

He man, nice holliday?

Hope so.

Good to see you back...

[Mechman]

Good to see your back. Hope you nejoyed Sweden.

[Zoomer96]

Hey!! Great skin Foofighters!! It looks great! And it was a real fast download too. Thanks for workig it out. It is much appreciated

[FooFighters]

Hey!! Great skin Foofighters!! It looks great! And it was a real fast download too. Thanks for workig it out. It is much appreciated

Thanks for all the nice compliments :88) I appreciate it !
The downloads are on my own website. So downloading from there goes pretty quick. If you love old US cars, you can also try the site itself.
www.oldsmobile1958.com (http://www.oldsmobile1958.com)

B.R.

Foo
p.s. the white Olds is my cruiser which we just drove up to sweden and back for holiday.

The holiday was oke.. to bad we had lots and lots of rain.
For some pictures of the US car meeting check this site http://www.vlt.se/powermeet/index.asp
For pics click on bildspel.

[Mechman]

Look forward to seeing your next skins.
Nice car too. I didn't know that there were classic american cars in the netherlands.

[Lagger123987]

FooFighters, How did you make the lightmaps more metallic look?

[FooFighters]

FooFighters, How did you make the lightmaps more metallic look?

I use the original skin BMP. Open it in PSP7 and then adjust the brightness/contrast (shift B). I have the right figures on my home PC. I will place them here tonight.
Include it in the ???O01.dds file. The game does the rest.

p.s. wow finally a cool avatar.. :up:

[FooFighters]

FooFighters, How did you make the lightmaps more metallic look?

I use the original skin BMP. Open it in PSP7 and then adjust the brightness/contrast (shift B). I have the right figures on my home PC. I will place them here tonight.
Include it in the ???O01.dds file. The game does the rest.

p.s. wow finally a cool avatar.. :up:

The right figures are brightness -50 contrast +50

[FooFighters]

Check out the first post of this thread for some new added skins !
INCLUDING THE NEW S-CLASS !!

:up:

[wovik]

Great Skins :up:
Thanks for your hard work on these.

note: There is a TYPO on the first picture title.

[JREX53]

Great Skins - downloading now.

But noticed the link for the Black clean Gato points to BALAOBLACKV10.rar

Your's and Boris's work is fantastic. Looking to see more of your work.:up:


Jim

[LukeFF]

FooFighters, there seems to be a problem with the link to your early-war black Gato skin, as it links to a Balao skin instead.

[FooFighters]

Great Skins - downloading now.

But noticed the link for the Black clean Gato points to BALAOBLACKV10.rar

Your's and Boris's work is fantastic. Looking to see more of your work.:up:


Jim

@Wovik.. Typo corrected :up:

@JREX53 and LukeFF(=FooFighters ?? :D ).. link is now correct.


Thanks for the help guys..

[FooFighters]

Here some first shots of the Tambor / Gar Class submarine.
I use USS Tambor as example for this skin

http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/belleships/images/8.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Tambor2.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Tambor1.jpg

[CaptainKobuk]

This is one of the most must have MODs. If subs were women they'd all be 1940's pinup babes in bikinis they are so fine to look at in this game now.

[chopped50ford]

any chance you got a skin for USS Drum? I would love to make the boat as it was during WW2.

The "Plain Jane" look w/ no numbers is pretty boring. That must have been the last thing they did before they released the game. Missing Draft numbers...common UBI :)

Got to love the realism factor :)

[FooFighters]

any chance you got a skin for USS Drum? I would love to make the boat as it was during WW2.

The "Plain Jane" look w/ no numbers is pretty boring. That must have been the last thing they did before they released the game. Missing Draft numbers...common UBI :)

Got to love the realism factor :)

During WWII all subs did not wear any numbers, battle flags or insignias.

But I know what you mean with boring.. I've tried this before. But as long as the texture mirror problem exists, it cannot be done nicely.

[FooFighters]

Here's a shot of USS Drum returning to homeport 1945

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/drum.jpg

My USS Whale (Gato) skin looks very close to this picture (only not weathered, yet)

This is what I made of it in my half hour lunch brake :rotfl: :rotfl:
Now I really have to go back to work.

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/USSDrum.jpg

:up:

[FooFighters]

Fellow captains..

I need your opinion :arrgh!:

I start working more and more with photoshop (always used PSP7).
And I am really falling in love with this program ;) It's amazing !

My question.. (because I can do a lot more with PS then PSP)
Should I make all clean skins with a bit more shadows and a few dents like the skin below.
Or should I release this seperatly ?
Will anybody use these or still the clean one ?

I will finish one Gato or Balao skin asap so you can see these skins ingame.

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Balao.jpg

This is Balao V1.2 skin clean as released previously

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Balaoclean.jpg

[Bando]

I'd use the dented one. Real subs are dented, weathered and dirty after a curtain time in the water. Not only subs I might add, every vessel in the seawater environment will be looking like an old vessel in a relative short amount of time.
I've seen how these ships are made, and their skins are not smooth at all. Even after the paintjob they'd still show all these dents when the in the sunshine.
Resume;
I think denting the skins will make them a lot more authentic.:up:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Just saw the new stuff FF, nice work, love the S-Class stuff:up::up:


RDP

[Mechman]

Fellow captains..

I need your opinion :arrgh!:

I start working more and more with photoshop (always used PSP7).
And I am really falling in love with this program ;) It's amazing !

My question.. (because I can do a lot more with PS then PSP)
Should I make all clean skins with a bit more shadows and a few dents like the skin below.
Or should I release this seperatly ?
Will anybody use these or still the clean one ?

I will finish one Gato or Balao skin asap so you can see these skins ingame.

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Balao.jpg

This is Balao V1.2 skin clean as released previously

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Balaoclean.jpg

I'd release both, as some people will prefer one over the other, but you still have to make the clean one to make the weathered one.

[CaptainCox]

I personally prefer them a bit weathered. Just like you do them. the clean ones just looks to "clean"...but that's me ;)

[chopped50ford]

Great Job. I'm interested in a skin for the Drum...like the one you started.

Your work is awesome, hope to see something soon.:rock:

[FooFighters]

Great Job. I'm interested in a skin for the Drum...like the one you started.

Your work is awesome, hope to see something soon.:rock:

I will finish the Tambor / Gar skin first.. after that your on :up:
I have to start over because the one in this post is based on a dds file instead of BMP. So the end result is not a sharp as I want.

I will use the picture of USS Drum in this thread as base for the skin.

:arrgh!:

[FooFighters]

Here's an update on the Tambor.. I think I will release it sunday :hmm:
The Tambor will be released in 4 different settings

* Clean - right of the shipyard
* Minor weathering
* Heavy weathering (sorry Boris, next will be yours again :oops: )
* Black version

Minor weathering (leaving port)

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T1.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T1a.jpg


Heavy weathering (returing to port)

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T2.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T2a.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T3.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T4.jpg

Hope you guys like it.. I sure do :arrgh!:

[Sockeye]

Very nice, mate :up:

[chopped50ford]

thanks, cant wait to get it.

Thanks for your help.

[LukeFF]

Good job! Heavily-weathered version is going to be the one for me. :yep:

[Excalibur Bane]

That's some damn fine skinning work there Foo, excellent stuff! :rock:

[switch.dota]

Heavy wheathered skins for me, please. By the time a worn salmon skin will be out I'll change my boat, just like it happened with the S-Class :(

[FooFighters]

All Tambor skins released on page 1 !!

Here some more shots of the 3 different versions :up:

Minor Weathered V1.0
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T10.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T11.jpg

Heavy Weathered V1.0
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T12.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T13.jpg

Black V1.0
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T14.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T15.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/T16.jpg

[Misfit138]

That heavy weathered version looks damn cool! :up: Almost makes me wanna ditch my S-class boat...

*Drooling like Homer J. Simpson*

[Canonicus]

Beautiful work on the Tambor, fooman.... First-class all the way!
(slightly weathered ,for me)

What about doing a re-fit on the P-Class... She needs it! :yep:

[sqk7744]

Very Cool! Thanks FF!!! :up::up::up:

[Bando]

Great Foo, as always. You're an artist in my view :up: :up:

I have a request if you can find time for it;
I like the black versions most. Currently driving a black S class, loving it. Seeing these pictures of the black Tambor I decided just to ask if the propellors can be coloured like brons props, if possible.:oops:

thanks if it can be done, no hard feelings if not,
You're doing a great job :up:

[FooFighters]

Great Foo, as always. You're an artist in my view :up: :up:

I have a request if you can find time for it;
I like the black versions most. Currently driving a black S class, loving it. Seeing these pictures of the black Tambor I decided just to ask if the propellors can be coloured like brons props, if possible.:oops:

thanks if it can be done, no hard feelings if not,
You're doing a great job :up:

It should be possible.. I'll check it for you
:up:

[Bando]

It should be possible.. I'll check it for you
:up:

You're the man, the main man.......:up:

[Spruence M]

I'm playing in mid 1942 and I have recieved a Gato Class after being moved up from a Balo. *I Think* My boat is still black because the USN hasnt decided to move grey. When I install any of the Great Gato Skins my boat turns to the new color, but because I have the old Style Conning Tower, I end up with a grey boat and a black conning tower. Is there a skin currently for a '42 Gato? If not, what year does the new conning tower released that is used in most of those screen shots?

[FooFighters]

I'm playing in mid 1942 and I have recieved a Gato Class after being moved up from a Balo. *I Think* My boat is still black because the USN hasnt decided to move grey. When I install any of the Great Gato Skins my boat turns to the new color, but because I have the old Style Conning Tower, I end up with a grey boat and a black conning tower. Is there a skin currently for a '42 Gato? If not, what year does the new conning tower released that is used in most of those screen shots?

hmm.. that's strange..
Every sub I release I always change both conningtowers to grey..
Just to avoid these kind of problems.

Which Gato version did you download ?

:hmm:

[FooFighters]

It should be possible.. I'll check it for you
:up:

You're the man, the main man.......:up:

No go.. sorry..
They use several parts of the skin on the screws, and blacked them in the lighting file (O01.dds)..

With the original skins the screws were also black.

:shifty:

[Bando]

Too bad

Thanks for looking into it though:up:

[FooFighters]

Too bad

Thanks for looking into it though:up:

Your welcome..

But for everything that does not work.. there is something that does work :D

Sargo Class submarine skin minor weathered
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SA1.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SA2.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SA3.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SA4.jpg

After this release (tomorrow).. think Porpoise class is the only one left.. :know: :up:

[Bando]

Great work Foo.
Btw, you're up late

[ReallyDedPoet]

Excellent:up::up: ^^^^

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SA1.jpg

Just set this to my DT :yep:


RDP

[FooFighters]

Great work Foo.
Btw, you're up late

Thats the only way to play (read paint :D ) without being interupted by my girlfriend..
It's now 3.05 :o at night.. (time flies when your having fun)

oops :p :p

Oke.. time to visit my bed now
:up:

[Bando]

I'm at work in the very same time zone :down:

Well it's one way to make money

Welterusten

[FooFighters]

Excellent:up::up: ^^^^

Just set this to my DT :yep:

RDP

If you mean desktop.. PM me your e-mail adress.
I will send you the original 1280*1024 picture.

:up:

[FooFighters]

I'm at work in the very same time zone :down:

Well it's one way to make money

Welterusten

Dank je !

:D :D

[Spruence M]

hmm.. that's strange..
Every sub I release I always change both conningtowers to grey..
Just to avoid these kind of problems.

Which Gato version did you download ?

:hmm:

Not quite sure which version, and I was going to type in the file names, but I just realized that would do you absolutly no good, because all the filenames would be the same at any rate. Which version do you know works with both? Would you please re-link it for a slow reader like myself?

[FooFighters]

hmm.. that's strange..
Every sub I release I always change both conningtowers to grey..
Just to avoid these kind of problems.

Which Gato version did you download ?

:hmm:

Not quite sure which version, and I was going to type in the file names, but I just realized that would do you absolutly no good, because all the filenames would be the same at any rate. Which version do you know works with both? Would you please re-link it for a slow reader like myself?

All of my Gato skins should do the trick. Download links are in the first post of this thread.

[FooFighters]

3 versions of Sargo Class skins are online. You can find them in the first post of this topic..

This is the black version of the Sargo

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SB2.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SB1.jpg

Enjoy !
;)

[Bando]

Wow Foo, you did it again

Thanks:up: :up:

[SHARKMEAT]

I just want to thx you for the time you spent maken me, and I'm sure alot others happy with the skins you guys took your time to do for the game, thx's again & a outstanding JOB...CHEERS

[Canonicus]

Sargo is a work of art , Fooman....but aren't they all! :up:

Thanks .... I look forward to the P class.

(BTW...what are you going to do after the subs are finished?
any ideas?)

[Bando]

Painting my car??

[Misfit138]

Painting my car??

Be careful about what you wish. I'm pretty sure that FF will gonna give your car a heavy weathered look

:rotfl:

[Canonicus]

Painting my car??

Be careful about what you wish. I'm pretty sure that FF will gonna give your car a heavy weathered look

:rotfl:


and ....:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[FooFighters]

Painting my car??

Be careful about what you wish. I'm pretty sure that FF will gonna give your car a heavy weathered look

:rotfl:


and ....:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

:p :p No problem mate..

I will start with the Porpoise class this week..
And then redo some of the earlier skins.
My painting skills have increased a bit since starting painting these hi-res skins.



After that.. Maybe battleships, carriers, DD etc..
:hmm:

I will not stop until the whole game is hi-res :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[nattydread]

requesting highly weathered skins if I may. Rust, chipping, denting, etc.

[FooFighters]

requesting highly weathered skins if I may. Rust, chipping, denting, etc.

I love making them...

just wait and they will come :p

[Mechman]

Don't get too carried away with rust. I'd keel haul the crew if they let my tub get rusty.

[FooFighters]

Don't get too carried away with rust. I'd keel haul the crew if they let my tub get rusty.

:rotfl: :rotfl:
That's why every sub will eventuely have 3 different skins.
Black, minor and heavy weathered.

[FooFighters]

I just started the Porpoise.. (well.. I been busy with her for about 4 hours now :p )
It's just basic, very few details etc..

Does anybody has a shot of a grey colored Porpoise ??

I am a bit in doubt with the colorscheme..
Should it be like this, or grey all the way to the rear (like USS Salmon) ?

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Por1.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Por2.jpg

[Hackett]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/USS_Permit.jpg
USS. Permit (SS 178)

Taken early 1944, and appears to be painted in midwar Measure 10 overall ocean grey.
(US Navy via SFL)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/USS_Porpoise.jpg/300px-USS_Porpoise.jpg
USS Porpoise (SS 172)

"Surface view "Bow".
Navy Yard. Phila, PA.
July 20 1944."

Painted in early war Measure 9 overall black.

[GT182]

Great work Foo! :up: :up:

One request(don't laugh guys). How about an "Operation Pettycoat" skin. Just for an oldtimer that loved the movie. I'd love to use it on a rescue or recon mission just for the hell of it. LOL

[FooFighters]

@ Hackett.. thanks for the shots :up:
Why is USS Permit on Navsource called Perch class and on several other sites as Porpoise class ? anyone ?

@ GT182.. maybe, I think it is very cool looking skin.
At the moment I still have tons of work. But maybe later.
The idea sounds good !

[Mechman]

Looking forward to seeing your new weathered versions of the older skins.

[Hackett]

@ Hackett.. thanks for the shots :up:
Why is USS Permit on Navsource called Perch class and on several other sites as Porpoise class ? anyone ?

@ GT182.. maybe, I think it is very cool looking skin.
At the moment I still have tons of work. But maybe later.
The idea sounds good !

Unless someone more knowledgeable than I on the subject can explain in more detail;
The information I have simply has the "P Boats" sub-headed under the parent class of "Porpoise Class"

The Porpoise-class was made up of the following subclasses:
P-1 Type

(SS-172) USS Porpoise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Porpoise_%28SS-172%29)
(SS-173) USS Pike (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pike_%28SS-173%29)P-3 Type

(SS-174) USS Shark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Shark_%28SS-174%29)
(SS-175) USS Tarpon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Tarpon_%28SS-175%29)P-5 Type

(SS-176) USS Perch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Perch_%28SS-176%29)
(SS-177) USS Pickerel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pickerel_%28SS-177%29)
(SS-178) USS Permit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Permit_%28SS-178%29)
(SS-179) USS Plunger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Plunger_%28SS-179%29)
(SS-180) USS Pollack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pollack_%28SS-180%29)
(SS-181) USS Pompano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pompano_%28SS-181%29)(Info taken from Wikipedia)

[Mechman]

The third flight of porpoise subs had some minor mods, and some people insist on them being a seperate class, using the pike as a name for it since it was the first of the three flight to put to sea.

[LukeFF]

:p :p No problem mate..

I will start with the Porpoise class this week..
And then redo some of the earlier skins.
My painting skills have increased a bit since starting painting these hi-res skins.



After that.. Maybe battleships, carriers, DD etc..

How about the flak guns and deck guns? They look out of place now with the work you've done on all these sub skins, and something about them just doesn't look right.

[chopped50ford]

Wow...awesome.

I know your busy, but any chance on the weathered/before overhaul 'Drum' Skin? Adding of the battleflag on conning tower would be great too. :)

[FooFighters]

Wow...awesome.

I know your busy, but any chance on the weathered/before overhaul 'Drum' Skin? Adding of the battleflag on conning tower would be great too. :)

I will also do a USS Drum weathered version from the picture :up:

But first I have to finish..
* new Fooskins website
* finish Porpoise class
* Redo S-Class
* Then I have to find some time to actualy play the game :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Mechman]

Wow...awesome.

I know your busy, but any chance on the weathered/before overhaul 'Drum' Skin? Adding of the battleflag on conning tower would be great too. :)

I will also do a USS Drum weathered version from the picture :up:

But first I have to finish..
* new Fooskins website
* finish Porpoise class
* Redo S-Class
* Then I have to find some time to actualy play the game :rotfl: :rotfl:
A redone s-class? It's like santa. You know just what I want for christmas.

[Bando]

Huh, anyone mention the S class??????
Redone??????

Foo, I could kiss you:up:


:rotfl:


:doh: But I won't

[FooFighters]

Wow...awesome.

I know your busy, but any chance on the weathered/before overhaul 'Drum' Skin? Adding of the battleflag on conning tower would be great too. :)

I will also do a USS Drum weathered version from the picture :up:

But first I have to finish..
* new Fooskins website
* finish Porpoise class
* Redo S-Class
* Then I have to find some time to actualy play the game :rotfl: :rotfl:
A redone s-class? It's like santa. You know just what I want for christmas.

I'll promiss you, you will have it before christmas :p

The main change on the s-class is with the grey version.
Misfit138 solved the color differences between hull and conning tower.
So I will implement this, and further add some minor weathering effects.

Afcourse I will also weather the black version

[FooFighters]

Huh, anyone mention the S class??????
Redone??????

Foo, I could kiss you:up:


:rotfl:


:doh: But I won't

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[chopped50ford]

thanks again for all your doing.

[FooFighters]

thanks again for all your doing.

Your welcome ;)

As a present for you all.. Here's my new FooSkins website..
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter

All subs except Porpoise are available. Porpoise is next on my to do list.
So it should on the site soon..

The ranks next to the download buttons resemble the release version.
So 1 stripe is version 1 etc..

Hope you like it :up:

Foo

[ATR-42]

Foo, put up a paypal donation button on your website, i wont make ya rich, but gladly send you funds for a beer, this game wouldnt be the same without your skins and hard work. the web site looks great!

[Deep6]

As a present for you all.. Here's my new FooSkins website..
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter
....
Hope you like it :up:

Foo

That is a very cool looking site. :|\\

[Bando]

Thanks for this website Foo, this is great. I sometimes had a hard time keeping track of the different skins. I've decided to dump all skins and only keep yours. It was easy to do with the help of your website, so thanks a lot. :up:

[FooFighters]

Foo, put up a paypal donation button on your website, i wont make ya rich, but gladly send you funds for a beer, this game wouldnt be the same without your skins and hard work. the web site looks great!

No need for donations (yet?), maybe one of Neals SH-IV t-shirts :D :D :p

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice site Foo:up:


RDP

[switch.dota]

Perhaps you should mention that Gar and Tambor use the same skin.

[FooFighters]

Perhaps you should mention that Gar and Tambor use the same skin.

Thanks, I added the text on the mainpage :up:

[chopped50ford]

great looking site. :up:

Awesome work. If you put a Donation button, I would give as well.

Nice work and thanks for your time.

[Fearless]

Neat stuff FooFighters:up:

[FooFighters]

Thanks for all the nice replies guys :up:

Here some new screenies of the Porpoise Class
Basic shape is ready, so are all limberholes and welding lines..

Still to do..
* add details like weathering
* Try to match colors between hull and dive planes
* Make conning tower
* Play with O01 file

I don't know when it will be ready, have a busy schedule this weekend :shifty:

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/por1.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/por2.jpg

[Bando]

Take your time Foo, this sim is not running away on my rig. :up:

[kapitan_zur_see]

A work of art! :up::up::up:

[nattydread]

I'd love to see the conning tower textures re-done. When Im setting up for a surface attack at night, the textures just look 'blah'! No sense of ambient light or luminosity effects on anything...I have my gamma set down low for more "realistic" night vision.

[Col1409]

Foo love your skins can't wait to get to 42-43 so I can use the blue versions rather than the black. And Boris love the weathering thx to both of you

[Anti_Ship_Fella]

how do i make the skins appear in game if i made em:o

[CaptainCox]

Best is to use JSGME. Full instructions here.
- How do I install mods using JoneSoft's Generic Mod Enabler (JSGME) (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/products.html)?
"The Generic Mod Enabler takes most of the hassle out of installing and uninstalling mods from your game."
JSGME is a free utility program to help you install and manage your game mods - highly recommended, especially if you have never installed mods before.

A - JSGME has built-in help information, but you may also find these guides useful:

JSGME guide with screenshots (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2881085392/m/3031058373?r=3031058373)
How to install different mods using JSGME (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2881085392/m/3461029123)
The most common mistake when installing mods with JSGME (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2881085392/m/3481046964)


C&Ped from UBI's officail forum ;)

The easiest way to see the structure you should pack it in is to download one of Foo's skins
Open the mod and check out where what goes where in terms of file names etc.

[FooFighters]

Minor weathered version Porpoise Class in available is the 1st post of this topic.

Here some shots of the first hi-res Porpoise..

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por1big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por2big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por3big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por4big.jpg

Hope you like it..
Next version will be heavy weathered..

:arrgh!:

[Canonicus]

P-Class!....Yes!.....and boy does she shine! :sunny:

Thanks Fooman!...your a regular AR..TEEST! :yep:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice work so far on the Porpoise FF, thanks for your efforts on this:up::up:


RDP

[Ducimus]

Up until now, i thought stock skins were adequate. I see i was wrong. Good job! I can't wait to try these out on my career game :up:

[WilhelmSchulz.]

WOW!!! :o :rock:

[Digital_Trucker]

:rock: FF Excellent job!:up:

[FooFighters]

Up until now, i thought stock skins were adequate. I see i was wrong. Good job! I can't wait to try these out on my career game :up:

Thanks mate.. I didn't know you also play te game
(more like me, 90% painting, 10% playing) :rotfl: :rotfl:

I am working on the heavy weathered version now..
This is what she most probably will look like..

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/PW1.jpg

Based on this picture of USS Permit..
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/permit.jpg

[CaptainCox]

Fracking marvelous. I use all your weathered skins!
And about the 90/10% ratio...that does feel very familiar ;)

[FooFighters]

Fracking marvelous. I use all your weathered skins!
And about the 90/10% ratio...that does feel very familiar ;)

My girlfriend is a few episodes behind on As the world turns..
So I get some extra drawing time each evening :yep:
At this moment it is 99% - 1%

[FooFighters]

Okay, she looks different from the screens above..
That USS Permit skin did not look good in game at all :down:

So I re-did the skin, a bit more naturel.. but still heavy weathered
Skins is available in first post and on my website.

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por5big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por6big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por7big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/por8big.jpg

[chopped50ford]

once again, awesome work!

Drum? :)

[Ducimus]

Don't know if your interested or not, but this site might be some good reference material for your skin work:
http://www.shipcamouflage.com/submarines.htm

[LukeFF]

Nice! Is a black Porpoise in the works?

[nattydread]

sweet1...but more rust and wear for me please :D

[Fearless]

Now if only there was a way to have multiple skins in the same folder starting from clean then after a few patrols the skins change towards the wear and tear thingy by means of date implementation. That would be :cool:

[FooFighters]

Nice! Is a black Porpoise in the works?

That would be the next release :up:

[LukeFF]

That would be the next release :up:

Good to hear!

One suggestion I would make for you to improve your work: the "poles" on which the SD and SJ radar antennas sit still retain their black color with your late-war skins. From what I've seen, these would've been painted to the same standard as the rest of the boat, minus the radar dishes and antennas, of course.

[FooFighters]

That would be the next release :up:

Good to hear!

One suggestion I would make for you to improve your work: the "poles" on which the SD and SJ radar antennas sit still retain their black color with your late-war skins. From what I've seen, these would've been painted to the same standard as the rest of the boat, minus the radar dishes and antennas, of course.

Thanks.. I will see into it.
Do you know if these poles are also black in the original grey skin ?

[FooFighters]

Don't know if your interested or not, but this site might be some good reference material for your skin work:
http://www.shipcamouflage.com/submarines.htm

Good website indeed, I sometimes use as a reference.
Mostly I use navsource
http://navsource.org/

:up:

[FooFighters]

sweet1...but more rust and wear for me please :D

The heavy weathered skins I make, are mostly based on pictures..
This is how a sub would look like after a patrol.

I cannot find a lot of photos with rust.. looks like they painted the boats regurly..
Do you have a photo how you want the sub to look like ?

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Now if we only had a working game to use theses in. :nope:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Great work FF:up::up:

This game is only getting better :yep:


RDP

[LukeFF]

Thanks.. I will see into it.
Do you know if these poles are also black in the original grey skin ?

Yep, they have the right color, it seems, in the gray version.

[nattydread]

sweet1...but more rust and wear for me please :D

The heavy weathered skins I make, are mostly based on pictures..
This is how a sub would look like after a patrol.

I cannot find a lot of photos with rust.. looks like they painted the boats regurly..
Do you have a photo how you want the sub to look like ?

No I dont, I just like the added character a ship with pouring rust stains at some of the seams would have.

What Im looking for would likly be more like a moth-balled boat. Tired, worn and combat weary.

[FooFighters]

sweet1...but more rust and wear for me please :D

The heavy weathered skins I make, are mostly based on pictures..
This is how a sub would look like after a patrol.

I cannot find a lot of photos with rust.. looks like they painted the boats regurly..
Do you have a photo how you want the sub to look like ?

No I dont, I just like the added character a ship with pouring rust stains at some of the seams would have.

What Im looking for would likly be more like a moth-balled boat. Tired, worn and combat weary.

I will put it on the to do list.. but it will take a while.
You mean like this shot of "Down Periscope"

http://www.usshorne.net/horne/images/SuisunBay/downpariscope.gif

[nattydread]

sweet1...but more rust and wear for me please :D

The heavy weathered skins I make, are mostly based on pictures..
This is how a sub would look like after a patrol.

I cannot find a lot of photos with rust.. looks like they painted the boats regurly..
Do you have a photo how you want the sub to look like ?

No I dont, I just like the added character a ship with pouring rust stains at some of the seams would have.

What Im looking for would likly be more like a moth-balled boat. Tired, worn and combat weary.

I will put it on the to do list.. but it will take a while.
You mean like this shot of "Down Periscope"

http://www.usshorne.net/horne/images/SuisunBay/downpariscope.gif

Ouch!! not that rusty :D ! But certainly a bit of the rust pouring off the deck to far left extreme of the pic, and the conning tower rust, but much more subtle. Oooo, yeah and rust and chipping paint like that on the scopes, but much smaller.

[chopped50ford]

sweet1...but more rust and wear for me please :D

The heavy weathered skins I make, are mostly based on pictures..
This is how a sub would look like after a patrol.

I cannot find a lot of photos with rust.. looks like they painted the boats regurly..
Do you have a photo how you want the sub to look like ?

No I dont, I just like the added character a ship with pouring rust stains at some of the seams would have.

What Im looking for would likly be more like a moth-balled boat. Tired, worn and combat weary.

I will put it on the to do list.. but it will take a while.
You mean like this shot of "Down Periscope"

http://www.usshorne.net/horne/images/SuisunBay/downpariscope.gif

:) You should loose your command with that amount of rust on your ship :)

[Marka Ragnos]

I have the dvd if you need any screencaps from this movie just ask :)

http://bsg-online.be/forum/imagehosting/thum_146a6694284120.jpg (http://bsg-online.be/forum/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=185)

[Haddock]

really great skins, thanks.
btw, i'm searching for a porpoise-skin with an "old" conning tower (TM 1.5, with bathtub). no success till now.
anyone an idea where i can find such a skin?

ps: sorry for my bad english :oops:

[FooFighters]

really great skins, thanks.
btw, i'm searching for a porpoise-skin with an "old" conning tower (TM 1.5, with bathtub). no success till now.
anyone an idea where i can find such a skin?

ps: sorry for my bad english :oops:

What do you mean by old conning tower ?
A skin is just a skin, do you mean textures or a 3d model ?

I am working on the black skin porpoise at the moment.
As far as I know all early war porpoise class boats were black.

:up:

[Haddock]

hi foofighters

ok, you are right. "old" is the wrong word, "early war" is better.
i start a career at '41 with a porpoise-class and i need a good looking skin (black of course). i don't really like the stock one.
i have seen all the screens and skins from your homepage, but it seems there were all for boats with a "late war" conning tower.
but you said, you are working on a black skin for a porpoise. that's maybe exactly what i'm searching for.:D :up:

thanks, haddock

[FooFighters]

hi foofighters

ok, you are right. "old" is the wrong word, "early war" is better.
i start a career at '41 with a porpoise-class and i need a good looking skin (black of course). i don't really like the stock one.
i have seen all the screens and skins from your homepage, but it seems there were all for boats with a "late war" conning tower.
but you said, you are working on a black skin for a porpoise. that's maybe exactly what i'm searching for.:D :up:

thanks, haddock

Sorry for the long wait, but I will start painting again this week.
I was really enjoying some great patrols with TM1.5..

This really is an awesome game !

[FooFighters]

It took a while, but here she is..
Porpoise hi-res class black version

Enjoy..

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/porb1big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/porb2big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/porb3big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/porb4big.jpg

Download link can be found on 1st. post of this topic or my website !

:arrgh!:

[sneekyzeke]

:up:

[Digital_Trucker]

Excellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllent!:up:

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Hey FF is the S-Class skin compatible with both classes in the game?

[FooFighters]

Hey FF is the S-Class skin compatible with both classes in the game?

Yes, both S18 and S42

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Hey FF is the S-Class skin compatible with both classes in the game?

Yes, both S18 and S42
YEET!!!

[Haddock]

thanks for the black porpoise.:up:

great skin:rock:

[FooFighters]

thanks for the black porpoise.:up:

great skin:rock:

I am glad you like it all..

I am going to take a short break and continu my Sargo career..
This game is now worth every penny..

[sneekyzeke]

Hey Foo man i love your work and have used your skins from the beginning, but i have a question i hope you or someone can answer. Ducimus (and tater et al) has made much ado in TM 1.6 about certain equipment and conning towers showing up at specific times. Right now i'm just using TM's skin versions (they're actually quite nice, to me), but if i installed yours would i lose some of the gameplay/historical aspects of these guys' hard work?

[FooFighters]

Hey Foo man i love your work and have used your skins from the beginning, but i have a question i hope you or someone can answer. Ducimus (and tater et al) has made much ado in TM 1.6 about certain equipment and conning towers showing up at specific times. Right now i'm just using TM's skin versions (they're actually quite nice, to me), but if i installed yours would i lose some of the gameplay/historical aspects of these guys' hard work?

no.. you will not loose anything from Tm1.6
I use both TM1.6 and my skins without any problems.

:up:

[switch.dota]

I've got a problem isntalling both salmon and sargo skins at the same time. AM I missing something? :hmm:

[LukeFF]

I've got a problem isntalling both salmon and sargo skins at the same time. AM I missing something? :hmm:

Yes, they're the same skin.

[FooFighters]

I've got a problem isntalling both salmon and sargo skins at the same time. AM I missing something? :hmm:

Yes, they're the same skin.

Not exactly, The Salmon and Sargo used seperate sub skins.
Only they use the same conning tower textures.

Just put both in jgsme and install Salmon first and Sargo after that.
When jgsme says overwrite files ? just do that. It's no problem.

[switch.dota]

I've got a problem isntalling both salmon and sargo skins at the same time. AM I missing something? :hmm:

Yes, they're the same skin.

Not exactly, The Salmon and Sargo used seperate sub skins.
Only they use the same conning tower textures.

Just put both in jgsme and install Salmon first and Sargo after that.
When jgsme says overwrite files ? just do that. It's no problem.
Aight that's what I wanted to know. Thanks ;)

[sqk7744]

Love your Skins FooFighters (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=222521), take a bow!

Two Questions for you?

Is there a USS Thresher SS200 repaint for your weathered Hi-Res skin?

Also, a feature to add 'Kills" would be fantastic ( manually in PS or something is just fine)

Thanks! :arrgh!:

[FooFighters]

Love your Skins FooBor, take a bow!

Two Questions for you?

Is there a USS Thresher SS200 repaint for your weathered Hi-Res skin?

Also, a feature to add 'Kills" would be fantastic ( manually in PS or something is just fine)

Thanks! :arrgh!:

Thanks for the compliments :smug:

USS Thresher looked very much like the Tambor skins I already finished.
The limberhole config is pretty much the same.

I did not used "Kills" yet, mainly because they were only used after the war.
For now painting them is the only way. Badges like in SH-III is not possible.

I still have tons of work left (Sargo, S-Class updates and an USS Drum skin).
But you are not the only one who asked for USS Thresher so I will put it on the "to do" list.

:up:

[sqk7744]

Love your Skins FooBor, take a bow!

Two Questions for you?

Is there a USS Thresher SS200 repaint for your weathered Hi-Res skin?

Also, a feature to add 'Kills" would be fantastic ( manually in PS or something is just fine)

Thanks! :arrgh!:
Thanks for the compliments :smug:

USS Thresher looked very much like the Tambor skins I already finished.
The limberhole config is pretty much the same.

I did not used "Kills" yet, mainly because they were only used after the war.
For now painting them is the only way. Badges like in SH-III is not possible.

I still have tons of work left (Sargo, S-Class updates and an USS Drum skin).
But you are not the only one who asked for USS Thresher so I will put it on the "to do" list.

:up:
Thanks Much FooFighters (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=222521)!

I'd be happy to help ya, been doing FlightSim skins for years.

* As for the kills, I was thinking of 'painting them on' after each war patrol and updating the skin manually.

Cheers! :arrgh!:

[FooFighters]

Love your Skins FooBor, take a bow!

Two Questions for you?

Is there a USS Thresher SS200 repaint for your weathered Hi-Res skin?

Also, a feature to add 'Kills" would be fantastic ( manually in PS or something is just fine)

Thanks! :arrgh!:
Thanks for the compliments :smug:

USS Thresher looked very much like the Tambor skins I already finished.
The limberhole config is pretty much the same.

I did not used "Kills" yet, mainly because they were only used after the war.
For now painting them is the only way. Badges like in SH-III is not possible.

I still have tons of work left (Sargo, S-Class updates and an USS Drum skin).
But you are not the only one who asked for USS Thresher so I will put it on the "to do" list.

:up:
Thanks Much FooFighters (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=222521)!

I'd be happy to help ya, been doing FlightSim skins for years.

* As for the kills, I was thinking of 'painting them on' after each war patrol and updating the skin manually.

Cheers! :arrgh!:

Check your pm ;)

[leovampire]

Still looking and waiting and you know what I mean LOL!!!

[FooFighters]

Still looking and waiting and you know what I mean LOL!!!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

She will come.. she will come

[leovampire]

But Foo just made a changling sub for me! I swear to god if it was real life no one would ever see it on the ocean unless it was moving and producing a wake. It actualy changes color as the sun reflect's more light off of the ocean onto it! I am going to see if I can get some photo's that show the effect you have to see it to believe it!

Before the sun started to come up over the horizon it was a dark to mid gray and as the sun started to reflect light off the surface of the ocean the color slowly started to mimic the ocean's surface color.

[sqk7744]

That's nuts! :p

[leovampire]

Is anyone using a Sargo Class sub early war? It blends in so well when I try to enhance the pictures to see it everything changes color. I swear you have to see this in game to believe it. From just before sun rise till it is up about 15 degree's above the horizon the sub just keeps matching the color of the ocean.

If it wasn't for the limber holes and silver anchors and brass props I wanted and the conning tower emblems for the USS Sea Dragon and the weapon's it would just blend into the environment.

Unless my game or video card's are going nut's.

[FooFighters]

This is the boat Leo talking about..

Leo's USS Sea Dragon
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/leo1.jpg

My USS Spearfish
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/leo2.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/leo3.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/leo4.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/leo5.jpg

Now I am really of to bed (it's now 4.15 am here in Holland)
Sweet dreams to you all..

[sqk7744]

Check your pm ;)

Thanks! I got a beta up for folks to test:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=641685&postcount=7

Cheers :arrgh!:

[FooFighters]

Hi there fellow captains..

If you're commanding a Sarco class at the moment..
Then I have a new boat for you :up:

Completely redone Sargo class black..

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/sar9big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/sar10big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/sar11big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/pics/sar12big.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/Spearfish.jpg

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/SargoHiBLKV2.rar

Hope you like the skin..
:arrgh!:

[LukeFF]

Check your download link. It comes up as unavailable, but it can be downloaded just fine by navigating to your home page.

Nice skin BTW!

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice work on the Sargo FF :yep::up::up:


RDP

[leovampire]

I am enjoying it a lot. just posted some pics of it in a sunrise on Reflection's on the Water thread.

[FooFighters]

I am anjoying it a lot. just posted some pics of it in a sunrise on Reflection's on the Water thread.

I am glad you like it.. I also like it alot.
For me it's the 1st time I have choosen a black skin over a grey one in my carreer.

@ LukeFF.. thanks, link is corrected !

:up:

[sqk7744]

Very nice skin FF!

So does the paint provide a stealth bonus ;)

[FooFighters]

Very nice skin FF!

So does the paint provide a stealth bonus ;)

It's not there in my game.. maybe in yours ? :yep:
See pictures above for my Sargo in game.. looks pretty good to me.

:up:

[sqk7744]

Very nice skin FF!

So does the paint provide a stealth bonus ;)
It's not there in my game.. maybe in yours ? :yep:
See pictures above for my Sargo in game.. looks pretty good to me.

:up:
Looks great! In regards to the paint composit... Shhhhhhhhhh
http://www.sandia.gov/isrc/F117.html time to goto Home Depot ;)

Table of Paints used by the USN During WWII:
http://www.shipcamouflage.com/paint_formulas.htm

[mrbeast]

Execellent skins Foofighters a think a 1000% improvement on the stock skins (rivets on welded hulls:nope: !).:up:

I have a bit of a request. Recently been reading about US subs in the pacific and specifcally the USS Sea Dragon. She was refered to as the Red Dragon due to the fact that much of the black paint flaked off after a while on patrol leaving red primer showing underneath (infact Tokyo Rose coined the name). Would it be possible to do a skin like this? Perhaps not just USS Sea Dragon but some really battered heavily weathered boat skins. I'm talking really war weary here, flaking paint, patches of repainting and damage plated over from hasty repairs. I'm thinking about some of the weathered U boat skins in the SH3 mod forum as exeamples.

[rcjonessnp175]

I Second what Mrbeast is saying about really worn out skins and denting Please pretty please!!!!:lol:

[FooFighters]

Execellent skins Foofighters a think a 1000% improvement on the stock skins (rivets on welded hulls:nope: !).:up:

I have a bit of a request. Recently been reading about US subs in the pacific and specifcally the USS Sea Dragon. She was refered to as the Red Dragon due to the fact that much of the black paint flaked off after a while on patrol leaving red primer showing underneath (infact Tokyo Rose coined the name). Would it be possible to do a skin like this? Perhaps not just USS Sea Dragon but some really battered heavily weathered boat skins. I'm talking really war weary here, flaking paint, patches of repainting and damage plated over from hasty repairs. I'm thinking about some of the weathered U boat skins in the SH3 mod forum as exeamples.

Do you have some photos ? I already tried Google but could not find anything.
At this moment I am pretty busy.. So it will take a while.
But really scretched, dented subs are definetly coming..

[mrbeast]

Unforunately I don't have any pictures of her just a description by one of the officers that served on her. Tokyo Rose refered to a 'red pirate submarine'. The book says:

'The reason we know that she [Tokyo Rose] calls the Dragon a red submarine.....is because all the black paint topside washes off quickly after the Dragon gets to sea and the red lead used for priming the hull is all thats left as a covering. In a couple of days the Dragon will look like hell. The Canopus at Manila had done a hasty and rotten job repainting the Dragon'

'The last time I'd had a good look at the conning tower and shears of the Draon in bright moonlight it was evident that all of her black paint had washed off and hence she actually was a "red submarine"'

Don't know how much of a help that is, its from War In The Boats by William J Ruhe. I thought it would be an interesting idea for a skin to try as there was only about 4 different camo measures used by US subs during the war so there isn't the variety you get with U boats. Would be cool to go on patrol in the 'Red Dragon'.

Don't worry about taking your time you know what they say, 'good things come to those who wait'! Your skins are always well worth the wait! :up:

[switch.dota]

FooFighters, I've a rather bold request: could you pack all your skins into one package (i.e. FooFighter's skin pack) that can easily be installed via JSGME? I've had some overwriting problems when isntalling skins. It's not bothering but I doubt anyone uses other skins.

[mrbeast]

I've had a couple of conflicts but I just get round this by removing or reinstalling skins with JGSME before I play . I'm only ging to need one skin at once so its not a problem.

[FooFighters]

I've had a couple of conflicts but I just get round this by removing or reinstalling skins with JGSME before I play . I'm only ging to need one skin at once so its not a problem.

Thats one of the main reasons why I do not make a skin pack.

There are so many types to choose from (black, clean, weathered, special skins) and you can only use one per sub type.

It would give to much conflicts. Also you cannot use Salmon and Sargo together.
It will work, they have different hull skins but use the same tower textures.

;)
Foo

[rcjonessnp175]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2003/amzsizedwh0.jpg
Granted its a new sub, but if that red is the lead primer, than that be a good reference of the color. Wish the engine would allow for realtime dynamic color changed on our subs like in real life haha:p

[LukeFF]

FF, is there a way you can get your sub skins set up so they follow the date-based format in the /Data/Submarine directory? By default, the stock skins will automatically change color at the appropriate date, but with yours one set will automatically overwrite the other. For instance, one can't have both the Gato early and late-war skins installed at the same time, but rather one has to manually enable and disable them.

[Misfit138]

FF, is there a way you can get your sub skins set up so they follow the date-based format in the /Data/Submarine directory? By default, the stock skins will automatically change color at the appropriate date, but with yours one set will automatically overwrite the other. For instance, one can't have both the Gato early and late-war skins installed at the same time, but rather one has to manually enable and disable them.

I made for myself this kind of skin pack by using like for an example NSS_Gato_T01 a black texture and for NSS_Gato_T02 the gray one. Although haven't tested this pack well enough to say is there any bigger problems but everything seems to be working just fine

[JSF]

That is excellent work on those skins!

However....quick question...has anyone given further consideration on fixing the props (wheels). Is there anyway to mod the right-hand wheel to the left side of the boat and vise versa? Sorry for getting off topic.

[LukeFF]

That is excellent work on those skins!

However....quick question...has anyone given further consideration on fixing the props (wheels). Is there anyway to mod the right-hand wheel to the left side of the boat and vise versa? Sorry for getting off topic.

Use the forum search, and stay on topic next time...

[FooFighters]

FF, is there a way you can get your sub skins set up so they follow the date-based format in the /Data/Submarine directory? By default, the stock skins will automatically change color at the appropriate date, but with yours one set will automatically overwrite the other. For instance, one can't have both the Gato early and late-war skins installed at the same time, but rather one has to manually enable and disable them.

It is possible, pretty much like Misfit explains.
There is only one problem.
Both my earlier and the original skins uses the same reflection file (so called O01.dds file). This files was always based on the late war grey skin.

With the latest black Sargo (and all new upcoming black skins), the O01 file has an
alpha file specific for the black version.

So if you combine them like misfit, you must overwrite one of the O01 files.

It's not a real big deal, game will work fine.
Only if you sail on sunset with the sun on 90 degrees, it is possible that you can see a bit of grey skin reflection through your black skin.

[captiandon]

Sorry asked a question that was already asked.

[Aaron123456]

i cant seem to get them to work i want the gar class to look like the hvy weathered image but i cant get it to work plz help

[Digital_Trucker]

i cant seem to get them to work i want the gar class to look like the hvy weathered image but i cant get it to work plz help

Make sure that "Ship Normal Maps" is checked in the graphic options. I had the same problem with a skin and it magically appeared when I checked that option. Had me :damn: until I figured it out.

[FooFighters]

i cant seem to get them to work i want the gar class to look like the hvy weathered image but i cant get it to work plz help

Make sure that "Ship Normal Maps" is checked in the graphic options. I had the same problem with a skin and it magically appeared when I checked that option. Had me :damn: until I figured it out.

This solve 99% of the problems ;)
Thanks Digital Trucker

:up:

[Aaron123456]

i have got it checked but it only makes the tower of the sub the colour of the skin

[FooFighters]

i have got it checked but it only makes the tower of the sub the colour of the skin

Hi Aaron,

That's strange.. tried the skin myself this morning and it worked without problems.

Just to be shure..
* Do you use jgsme ?
* If not, did you place the skin files in the Tambor map ?
(because the Gar uses the Tambor skin)

:hmm:

[sqk7744]

Aaron123456 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=236841), are you using any mods like TM or RFB that may change the date/time of skin. It is weird since this usually effects the T01 and T02 conning tower skin.

If you remove the skin via JSGME, does the default skin look normal for the same time period in your career? I Still owe you a Kill Flag too, sorry been slamming busy with RL work this week

---
FOO, idea... What if you added two texture layers; your weathered one and another tinted in red primer (see Captain Cox's Operation Petticoat skin for an idea) and apply an alpha or transparency of 80-90% to the weathered layer?) Just thinking outloud...or do two layers and then erase key areas of topside to give the red primer the look of peeling thru. Though the peeling effect on edges may be allot of work.

best
:arrgh!:

[Aaron123456]

would u guys be able to write ma a complete manual on how to set it up cause i followed the 1 in the file and thats how i got this prob and wat is TM and RFB?

[Aaron123456]

nvm i got it working but still wat is TM and RFB?

[FooFighters]

nvm i got it working but still wat is TM and RFB?

Great :up:

TM = Trigger Maru
RFB = Reel fleet boat

Both are great mods which makes the gameplay better
They both have a seperate sticky topic on the SH-IV mod forum.
Read them both and see which one suits you best.

Cheers,

Foo
;)

[sqk7744]

Thanks
:arrgh!:

[FooFighters]

Thanks
:arrgh!:

Again :rotfl: :rotfl:

It's done now
:up:

[sqk7744]

Thanks
:arrgh!:
Again :rotfl: :rotfl:

It's done now
:up:

Business must be good sir! ;)

[FooFighters]

Well.. at first this is a shameless bump
The thread sunk so far.. that it was near the bottom of the Mariana trench.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I am going do some more testing on all the new ROW stuff.
Believe me guys, the 1st version was great.
This one is fantastic :o

http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/row11.jpg

When all this is done, I will start working on hi-res guns that fit my skins colors.
The original guns really look strange, compared to my skins.

Hope you all are enjoying my skins...

Cheers,

Foo
http://oldsmobile1958.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_smile_doorpeek.gif

[LukeFF]

When all this is done, I will start working on hi-res guns that fit my skins colors.
The original guns really look strange, compared to my skins.

Thank you! Please, if you would, look into updating the radar equipment textures as well. :ping:

[leovampire]

When all this is done, I will start working on hi-res guns that fit my skins colors.
The original guns really look strange, compared to my skins.

Thank you! Please, if you would, look into updating the radar equipment textures as well. :ping:

It is dds files handled in the Texture folder called nss sub sensors and Jake is doing some great work on them that I am testing and might be ready for downloads soon to go with the new hud work he is doing. Including making the radar masts match the color of the sub's.