The Type II Club

[Crazy Ian]

Seems only fair with you guys all discussing the merits of Type VII and IX I should make a special mention for my new fondness for the Dug out canoe. It's complete shoddyness gives it a whole new gaming perspective
(i) Due to very short numbers of eels, you've got to choose your targets wisely
(ii) Further limits on viability of the targets availabe due to range on the surface.. Sometimes you have to spend a good 10 minutes working out if you can intercept them.
(iii) Multiplayer.. nothings more satisfiying than playing as a Type II and scoring more tonnage than your 'arcade' playing mate.. as you stealthily entered the convoy whilst he got all the flak for charging straight in and you nobbled the only two tankers with perfect back breaking shots!

Many more merits to be added soon.. unless someone else wants to add them

Viva Type II!

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Jawhol!!!

The "Ducks" are cool... especially in a storm.:arrgh!:

[P_Funk]

Theres something very quaint about them. Its also a nice brief patrol. Sometimes I don't feel like being out there for a month and a half.:doh:

[nikbear]

I'd have to agree with the comments so far,there really is something special about being in a Type II,being there from the begining and taking your chances with the obvious limits you have,kinda makes it all the more raw edged.:yep:

[Sailor Steve]

Yup, they're fun, right down to the little galley stove in the back of the control room.

[Penelope_Grey]

The two most major merits I can think ok is Harbour raiding, my brother got a IID and was forver sneaking into british ports shooting stuff up.

The other thing I note about them, is their acoustic profile, they are difficult to get a concrete lock on due to their small size and the depth charges miss.

One other advantage of the IID is the speed it crash dives at. It can be under in a blink of an eye.

The IIA is definately the most challenging U-Boat to play but I do like the type II's.

[Puster Bill]

What would be really interesting is if someone would make a Type XXIII skin, and diddle the parameters on the Type IIA or D to make it into a Type XXIII.

You only have two shots, but you can travel at 12+ knots underwater, and a crash dive time of only 9 seconds. When you can pull the plug that fast, you don't need AA guns.

[Penelope_Grey]

I'm extremely tempted to have a career in the black sea in a Type II

[STEED]

Type II, Bah no room to fart in them barrels. :p

I have done the Black Sea in a VII & IX. :yep:

[Penelope_Grey]

I love the IID. Its a cracking boat.

[KeptinCranky]

I like the type II most because it prevent the overconfident idiocy you get with a big deckgun and oodles of flak, no way am i going to take on an armed trawler or flower corvette on the surface in a type II, I did that regularly in my 7s and 9s (admittedly in vanilla sh3, in GWX I got sunk so fast I actually felt embarassed for a day, even though there were no witnesses :oops:)

Does Kpt. Lehmann think his canoe is a surfboard? :rotfl:Hang Ten for the Vaterland! :sunny:

[TriskettheKid]

Using GWX, I've completed two full careers in a Type II, from 1939 until 1945.

Working on the third.

[STEED]

I got blown out the sea in one of them tubs as we came up for emergency fresh air and why? Bernard had been farting after eating beans and eggs. :lol:

[Sailor Steve]

I'm extremely tempted to have a career in the black sea in a Type II
My last career I assigned myself to AO95 (I think that was it) and sat off Gdansk taking pot-shots at fleeing Polish merchants. After that I accepted my North Sea assignments as they were given.

[Lzs von swe]

One of my captains is commanding the U-24 in the 30´th Flot. in Constanza.
April -43 and the boat has got the new conning tower with an extra flak pos.
She really looks good with two flak zwillings:up:

Your welcome to help in the fight against the Russians, Pen:yep:

[nikbear]

One of my captains is commanding the U-24 in the 30´th Flot. in Constanza.
April -43 and the boat has got the new conning tower with an extra flak pos.
She really looks good with two flak zwillings:up:

Your welcome to help in the fight against the Russians, Pen:yep:

You mean you can actually get different conning towers for the Type II?Could you please post a pic if possible,would love to see that,I'm ashamed to say I've never stayed with a Type II long enough to get anything like that:)

[Penelope_Grey]

In 1943 (or earlier if you adjust the basic.cfg) you get the second and final version of the IID conning tower.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Spider-Hulk/Penny/IID23.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Spider-Hulk/Penny/IID22.jpg

[Lzs von swe]

And this is U-24:up:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u101/vonswe/f6228f28.jpg

A real looker, ain't she?

[Canovaro]

I've got to be honest, I hate the type II :lol:
Only got 6 torpedoes, with my shooting, that's three ships :oops:

[P_Funk]

I've got to be honest, I hate the type II :lol:
Only got 6 torpedoes, with my shooting, that's three ships :oops:
To my mind thats a good thing. If you've only got so many torpedoes it makes you think harder about what you shoot. It makes you ask yourself "is it worth it?".

Plus if you know you only have so many shots then its a good tutor for getting better I think.

Plus she's a fast bugger. Maneuverability is unparalleled.

[Penelope_Grey]

And this is U-24:up:


A real looker, ain't she?

They are nice looking boats, gotta give em that, the only problem here is the IID's began from U-137 and went straight through to U-152

[Lzs von swe]

The small size is an advantage when up against enemy radar. Going decks awash in the middle of the night you can go undetected by four escorts, radar warner going wild, straight into the convoy, not diving until after the torps are fired:up:

[Lzs von swe]

They are nice looking boats, gotta give em that, the only problem here is the IID's began from U-137 and went straight through to U-152

Yes, but the boats used in the 30´th Flot where all IIb´s: U-9,18,19,20,23, and 24.
U-24 was at least actually in the 30´th:up:

[Penelope_Grey]

Ah yes, but you drive a IID see, which is why I say. :know:

I do like the II's no idea why they are just great. The only boats I am not keen on are the IXD and the IXB

[P_Funk]

I think that the B designations get a bum rap. I mean they aren't that inferior. In fact they are so similar to their C counter parts that there isn't much incentive to upgrade.

The best ace of the war used a VIIB, and the most famous boat of the Drumbeat times was a IXB (U-123). I think that we sometimes get a little obcessed with things like maximum range and torpedo loadout.

But who am I talking to? These are the people that love a boat that couldn't reach Iceland.;)

[aloe1]

Hello how do you get the new conning tower for the II as i quite like the II sub please and what do you have to do in the CFG file, thanks

[Morts]

wait till around 43
dont know the precise date

[Penelope_Grey]

You can get the IID/2 tower earlier by changing the basic.cfg file slightly. Go to main SH3 folder, then data, then Cfg, then right click basic.cfg and open it with Notepad.

What you need to do next is scroll down right the way till you see this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Spider-Hulk/Penny/CT.jpg

Where I have highlighted in red is the bit you need to change. But before you change anything, roll back Sh3 Commander, disable any Mods that you know make changed to the basic.cfg file. And then back up said basic file!

Then, you look for the bit marked in red in your own basic. Where it says year, you change that to whatver year you like, 1939 to 1945 so say you want the IID/2 tower in 1940, you will change the year to 1940. The month you can leave as 1 which is January right through till December which is 12. So that is how it works.

The earliest you can have the IID/2 tower is 1939 with the month set as 10.

Hopefully some of the more experienced modders can verify what I have said.

[nikbear]

Cool,thanks for that PG and lzs von swe,going to start a career in a type II and be the terror of the black sea with me new conn:arrgh!:

[Penelope_Grey]

Oh yes, the reason I put an arrow to the renown part is because if you like you can change the renown cost of the IID/2 tower to be cheaper or, if you are so inclined, more expensive.

[Vainamoinen]

Am a proud member of the type II club. Learning the whole U-boat business in one of those is like learning to drive in a 500cc Fiat - there's no room for mistakes when you're trying to overtake in one of those. ;)

With so few eels, no deck gun and such low speeds you need to get everything just right to get any results. If and when I ever get enough renown to trade up to the Ferrari-like heights of a VII it will really feel like I've earnt it. :arrgh!:

[Captain Strangelove]

What would be really interesting is if someone would make a Type XXIII skin, and diddle the parameters on the Type IIA or D to make it into a Type XXIII.

You only have two shots, but you can travel at 12+ knots underwater, and a crash dive time of only 9 seconds. When you can pull the plug that fast, you don't need AA guns.

That's what I am wishing for as well! Don't know if a skin would work. After all the tower is just too different. Would be way cooler to change the hull itself. Does anyone know if that is possible? With this type VIIc|42 it seems to have worked, didn't it?

Cheers

Kai

[aloe1]

great thanks

[Crazy Ian]

Thats the thing about these boats.... I get a almost realistic tonnage per patrol... in my VII patrol I was averaging stupid tonnage due to the deck gun and oodles of reloads for the eels.
Still trotting in the type IIA... she's a tiddly ship!

[Penelope_Grey]

Not keen on the IIA, not enough fuel. IID is the best.

[siber]

Only got 6 torpedoes, with my shooting, that's three ships :oops:
Three ships? I've never got more than 2 with my Type II. Last patrol I sunk a Medium Merchant north-east of Shetland (3 torpedoes - 2 hits and a miss) and then when returning ran into a Large Merchant. Fired two of my remaining fish, one impact, one magnetic pistol. The mag detonated after about 300m and the impact hit midships. Took my final shot hoping to finish her off, but missed the stern by a knat's whisker because of the damn zig zag.

Then I grounded in the Kiel canal on the way home. Destroyed the batteries and killed 2 crew. Hull integrity was 39% when I got back. :oops: Embarrasing considering I never even saw an escort, let alone took a depth-charge!

[danurve]

I like the IID myself. The kleines Boot cramped and sock drawer feeling. Unfortunate that nothing more then a single flak wasn't available earlier for it, or other early war boats for that matter.
I'm not convinced the claim to 6 eels for this class boat is accurate.

[Iron Budokan]

I like 'em, too! :up:

[Penelope_Grey]

The most ideal crusing speed for the IIA is 6 knots! Tested it tonight its the most fuel efficient speed for the boat.

[siber]

I'm not convinced the claim to 6 eels for this class boat is accurate.
I think I read somewhere that in real life, type II boats carried 5 torpedoes, 3 in the tubes and 2 reloads. I suppose there simply wasn't space to store them!

[Akinesis]

I am quite an avid fan of the Type-II myself :up: The best times in my career are trawling the North Sea in my little IID. Although I do, I'm always very reluctant to upgrade when I transfer to the atlantic though. I've always felt the need due to the speed, range and torpedo loadout limitations. But after reading this thread I'm thinking, what the heck :yep: It is far more challenging when one is so limited, so I think I'm going to stick with the little fella throughout the entire war.

One point I would like to highlight is the very few number of skins out there for the Type IIA/D, unless I'm missing something? Any avid fans here got the software and time to come out with some neat designs? :hmm:

[TriskettheKid]

I'd just like to point out that in all my careers solely using a Type II, I obviously used the IID as soon as I could (with such a short dive time, how could you pass it up?), but the trick with GWX is to use milk cows and everything else to meet your goal.

Trust me, I made the mistake of transferring to the Black Sea....and there's not much there to sustain a year's worth of patrols, let alone a few patrols. I tried the Med, which was difficult because Malta is the only really viable destination to attack, even with the IID's extended range, but you might find yourself abusing the "End Patrol" button.

I've found my most success is in sticking with Flotillas close to the Channel.

[gord96]

where many type II boats used during the mid to late years of the war? :hmm:

i may start a new campaign with one on the side. say the captain was washed out for insubordanation, but luckily had an uncle high up in the party that saved his career. BdU stuck him in a little type II for the rest of his career. :doh:

[gord96]

another thought. would be quite a fun little career in a type II. bouncing around on a bunch a short little patrols! hehe. sounds like a good time. sometimes those long patrols drag on.....:yep:

[Penelope_Grey]

I think the southern end around Britain is probably the best place to patrol in a type II

[XanderF]

Well, my fav skin in the game (Venatore's Type IIA) is a Type II, so...they get a lot of action from me. :yep:

Plus, the smaller crew is a ****LOAD easier to manage. No, seriously. Keeping all those Type IX guys napped up really pisses me off some times! :damn: Dudes don't know when to hit the sack!

I'm not convinced the claim to 6 eels for this class boat is accurate.
I think I read somewhere that in real life, type II boats carried 5 torpedoes, 3 in the tubes and 2 reloads. I suppose there simply wasn't space to store them!

Mixed opinions on this.

"Official" load appears to be 3 in the tubes, and 2 reloads on racks - although some Type IIs were apparently built with only 2 tubes, depended on the yard. Anyway, lore tells us that some captains took a 6th torpedo, and strapped it to the deck in the torpedo room in place of extra stores (short patrols, anyway) for opportunity use.

[gord96]

started a career with my disgraced captain who's first and last command will be U-143, a type IID. Sailed from Brest on July 3/41 and managed to sink 13000 tons on his first patrol and shoot down 1 aircraft. Returned home to Brest suprising several collegues with his success in the little tub of a U-Boat. :up:

And yeah, I love the little patrols and how easy it is to manage your crew. This has added a whole new interest in SH3 for me. Thanks to the OP for this idea.

[gord96]

another quick question. I figure since my average patrols are 5-7 days I should use SH3 Commander to shorten the time in port to 15 days or so. Can i adjust that figure in a patrol or should I wait till i get back to port? And if I wait till I get back to port will it be 15days for my next patrol?

Thanks for any info.

:p

[danurve]

XanderF; Good post, the "lore" makes sence.

gord96: You can make the adjustment in Commander anytime but unless I am mistaken it will only affect the new/next patrol you start up.

[Jimbuna]

Wait until you get back to port and perform a 'rollback' first. Your new settings will take effect at the commencement of your next patrol :arrgh!:

[gord96]

thanks guys. gonna do that. makes sense since the patrols are so short. My little U-Boat needs to be out patrolling the coasts as much as possible.

[nikbear]

Could someone tell me which Flotilla's and bases where given the option of the Type IID please;)

[gord96]

i think just the 1st Flotilla. I started my career in July 41 cause anytime before that you are in Kiel and I hate the long journey to hunting grounds in a sub with already such a short range. Starting in July 41 u are in Brest and have some nice hunting grounds due west in the deep Atlantic or just north around Britain.

[siber]

iI started my career in July 41 cause anytime before that you are in Kiel and I hate the long journey to hunting grounds in a sub with already such a short range. I had this problem, but on the thread "Sailing the Type II" - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112337
- I learnt how to use the Kiel canal in GWX. Check it out - it seriously extends your operational range... I can now make it up to North of Shetland without too much hassle!

[gord96]

thanks! i used the canal before but plotting the course through it was such a chore i just started a career in Brest. Wish i would have explored the nav options more :damn:

hehe thanks again!

[nikbear]

Thanks for that gord96,lucky Then thats the one I picked for my new Lone typeII career:arrgh!: going to need the extra range of the the typeIID if I'm ever going to be succesful plus I want to try that new conning tower with the extra flak:up:

[gord96]

yeah you gotta go with the IID. The IIA is just a bit too rustic for me :dead:

[Penelope_Grey]

The IIA has a certain charm, they were the first U-boats to go into service before WW2.

[nikbear]

The IIA has a certain charm, they were the first U-boats to go into service before WW2.

I do like the TypeIIA but the range of the TypeIID is the thing I want,that conning tower and extra range will make 6 torps easy to live with,I hope:hmm:

[gord96]

heck ya. just did my second patrol. sunk 2 cargos and 1 merchant for 33000 tons. all 6 torps gone and heading home. shot down a place too. should be home within 18 hours meaning i was on patrol for 4 days :rock:

[nikbear]

Yay,Thats the stuff gord,Sometimes I don't pyshically have the time to sit down and do a typeIX mission and give it my full attention.So a typeII hit of sub fun is just whats required:arrgh!:

[Seminole]

I like the II because there is room to rest the entire crew when need be.

[gord96]

nikbear,

i am afraid my next patrol will not be so short. recieved orders to proceed to the eastern coast of Britain. In a type IID that means going through the Channel! BdU figures the U-143 perfect for this type of patrol as she dives quick and is hard to find, even in shallow water. 1/4 of the way through the Channel so far. Spent the first day diving to evade airplanes. The night has been much better and I have been crusing at a nice speed to cover as much distance as possible before daybreak. air attack yesterday caused some minor flooding and damaged the batteries.

U-143 out. :arrgh!:

yeah i agree about the short patrols. time is short for me sometimes too so it is nice to knock off a quick patrol before having to go out :)

[nikbear]

Just done a quick patrol in my new TypeIID with fubars camo skin on it,must have worked cause I got 3 small merchants and 2 small freighters,my best ever hit in a typeII,exhausted my deck gun to help them on their way as well,Good luck with your patrol gordo:up:

[gord96]

hey thanks man!

where did you get the camo skin and how did you get a deck gun on the type II?

[gord96]

found the skin! can't wait to try it. what about that deck gun!? :p

[nikbear]

My typo I'm afraid,its flak gun,I've spent to much time on the typeVII's:oops: my next patrol on the typeII Lone patrol was not as succesfull,just 2 small merchants.And a bloody armed trawler with attitude and depth charges in december 39:damn: fair spoilt the whole mission,I don't mind being charged by something big but a damn trawler!:doh: ,still managed to sink the small merchant he was guarding:up: how did you get on gordo?

[Anvart]

Greetings to Type 2 Uboot fans!
I have no and I do not know anything about mods for Type2 interior.
But there may be my work is necessary to you?
Look my FF mod page (Interiors folder).
:hmm:

[nikbear]

Hi anvart,are your mods GWX and JSGME complient:hmm: cause if they are I'll download them.

[Telgriff]

You know, I went looking and I couldnt actually find a Type IX Club. There is the mention of the Ixaholics of course, but no actual thread... :down:

[Crazy Ian]

You know, I went looking and I couldnt actually find a Type IX Club. There is the mention of the Ixaholics of course, but no actual thread... :down:

Thats because they make up for not having their own thread by banging on about there precious boats by ranting about them in other peoples threads.. :lol: I'm sure I saw one around here earlier..:lol:

*just kidding*

[Telgriff]

You know, I went looking and I couldnt actually find a Type IX Club. There is the mention of the Ixaholics of course, but no actual thread... :down:
Thats because they make up for not having their own thread by banging on about there precious boats by ranting about them in other peoples threads.. :lol: I'm sure I saw one around here earlier..:lol:

*just kidding*

You better not be knocking the IX'ers :) We love our sea cows!

;)

And I just did what you said about banging on about the boats :rotfl:

[STEED]

You know, I went looking and I couldnt actually find a Type IX Club. There is the mention of the Ixaholics of course, but no actual thread... :down:

Thats because they make up for not having their own thread by banging on about there precious boats by ranting about them in other peoples threads.. :lol: I'm sure I saw one around here earlier..:lol:

*just kidding*

Thats done it. :shifty:
You see. ;)

[Akinesis]

Greetings to Type 2 Uboot fans!
I have no and I do not know anything about mods for Type2 interior.
But there may be my work is necessary to you?
Look my FF mod page (Interiors folder).
:hmm:


I see on your FF page that you mentioned that these mods are only compatible with the stock SH3. Do you have any plans to make it compatible with GWX? Also, can you provide any screens shots so we can see the differences?

[Anvart]

Hi anvart,are your mods GWX and JSGME complient:hmm: cause if they are I'll download them.
Yes, you can to use JSGME!
I don't have GWX, but i think you can to try my mod with GWX (through JSGME),
because i changed NSS_Uboat2_CR.dat and NSS_Uboat2_CR.sim files only.

[Crazy Ian]

Another plus point.. they're so wee and tiny that you can raid harbours with total impunity and not have to worry about the bottom/ dock walls :lol:

Harbour raiders all the way! :rock:

[Crazy Ian]

Seen as the Lethiathans are proudly naming their boats... seems only wise we do too...

I'm currently on U-3

[danlisa]

The Tardis this ain't! Ahhh can't breathe it's too small in here <hack, hack>, I'm going back to my Tardis.:arrgh!:

IX Forever.

(:shifty: Danlisa exits stage right & quickly runs away!)

[Crazy Ian]

The Tardis this ain't! Ahhh can't breathe it's too small in here

Here we prefer the term cosy ;)

Get you elbow outta my ear!

[siber]

'Smaller' is just a code word for 'cheaper-and-easier-to-run'! :smug:

If the IX is a bus, the II is a Porshe. The IX can carry much more and go half way round the world without having to refuel. But the II is more nimble and has real character. It also drinks its fuel more quickly! :lol:

[gord96]

i am loving my little Type IID. SO easy to maintain the crew as well and their is bunks for everyone :)

U-143 reporting from the British Channel :arrgh!:

[Akinesis]

U-147 reporting in from the North Sea :up:

[nikbear]

You can get the IID/2 tower earlier by changing the basic.cfg file slightly. Go to main SH3 folder, then data, then Cfg, then right click basic.cfg and open it with Notepad.

What you need to do next is scroll down right the way till you see this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Spider-Hulk/Penny/CT.jpg

Where I have highlighted in red is the bit you need to change. But before you change anything, roll back Sh3 Commander, disable any Mods that you know make changed to the basic.cfg file. And then back up said basic file!

Then, you look for the bit marked in red in your own basic. Where it says year, you change that to whatver year you like, 1939 to 1945 so say you want the IID/2 tower in 1940, you will change the year to 1940. The month you can leave as 1 which is January right through till December which is 12. So that is how it works.

The earliest you can have the IID/2 tower is 1939 with the month set as 10.

Hopefully some of the more experienced modders can verify what I have said.

I've tried this method Miss PG and the new conning tower just won't show up:cry: I've set the date for it to be there at 11/39 and I'm in late january in 1940 and there's no sign of it.I'm running these mods in this order(sobers 3d waves,rubini's hydro work around,DD debrisV1.1,torp damage final,tikigods engine order telig,fubars camo typeII skin,krillerssun,longer wakes for GWX(When it decides to work GRRRRRRRRRR:nope: )Will any of them have any effect on the conn being available,I'm at a loss as to what else to do?any ideas anyone?:help:

[danlisa]

@ nikbear

Are there 2 basic.cfg files? One in the SH3 program folder & one in the save folder in My Documents, this should be in the currently active career folder.:hmm:

Which one did you change?

IIRC changing the one in the program folder will mean that each new career you start the changes will be there by default however, I think you need to change the one for your current career.

To find out if any of your mods will change the basic.cfg, just open the MODS folder and do a windows search for basic.cfg. If you get any results then you know either to edit them too or not to enable them.;)

[nikbear]

Cheers for that dan,will check what you suggest

[Crazy Ian]

i am loving my little Type IID. SO easy to maintain the crew as well and their is bunks for everyone :)

U-143 reporting from the British Channel :arrgh!:
Well I was going to do the harbour tour.... but then I got to tempted by GWX!

Started a new career and what can I say but... WOW... such a fine addon..

And to prove to those IX and VII glory boys out there anything can be done... I raided Scapa to celebrate!

*How can I put up a log?*

[gord96]

i am loving my little Type IID. SO easy to maintain the crew as well and their is bunks for everyone :)

U-143 reporting from the British Channel :arrgh!:
Well I was going to do the harbour tour.... but then I got to tempted by GWX!

Started a new career and what can I say but... WOW... such a fine addon..

And to prove to those IX and VII glory boys out there anything can be done... I raided Scapa to celebrate!

*How can I put up a log?*


yes GWX really makes the game for sure! after this patrol, if we make it back, BdU is painting camo on U-143 and sending us to raid some nice british ports. :arrgh!:

really though. i cannot even go back to my old type 7. This little boat is so fun to rip around in. :up:

[Penelope_Grey]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Spider-Hulk/Penny/CT.jpg

I've tried this method Miss PG and the new conning tower just won't show up:cry: I've set the date for it to be there at 11/39 and I'm in late january in 1940 and there's no sign of it.I'm running these mods in this order(sobers 3d waves,rubini's hydro work around,DD debrisV1.1,torp damage final,tikigods engine order telig,fubars camo typeII skin,krillerssun,longer wakes for GWX(When it decides to work GRRRRRRRRRR:nope: )Will any of them have any effect on the conn being available,I'm at a loss as to what else to do?any ideas anyone?:help:

No it definately does work. did you remember to save it after you changed the availability date?

Or did you go to the right place. Go to your main Silent Hunter 3 folder in there find "data" then go into data, and find "Cfg" then look for "Basic" and open it with Notepad, make changes as shown in picture. save. Conning tower will show up on upgrade screen at right date.

[Akinesis]

yes GWX really makes the game for sure! after this patrol, if we make it back, BdU is painting camo on U-143 and sending us to raid some nice british ports. :arrgh!:

really though. i cannot even go back to my old type 7. This little boat is so fun to rip around in. :up:

Be wary of Dover! I sank a Fiji class with all 3 fish and seconds later I had 7 destroyers and swans swimming over me! I couldn't shake them. In the end I had to surface for air right in the middle of them. Don't know if it's one of those dead lock things where you can't lose the ships, or if it was because I was easy to see due to shallow waters... or maybe I was just careless :nope: Got there in the end though - snuck in, sank the Fiji and slipped away. U-147 sails to terrorize another day :up:

[nikbear]

@ nikbear

Are there 2 basic.cfg files? One in the SH3 program folder & one in the save folder in My Documents, this should be in the currently active career folder.:hmm:

Which one did you change?

IIRC changing the one in the program folder will mean that each new career you start the changes will be there by default however, I think you need to change the one for your current career.

To find out if any of your mods will change the basic.cfg, just open the MODS folder and do a windows search for basic.cfg. If you get any results then you know either to edit them too or not to enable them.;)

changed both,sadly still nothing:cry:

[Penelope_Grey]

LOL I was patrolling in my IIA career just a moment ago and got bombed by a pair of ansons just as I was slipping under the water.... welll laugh! The IIA was spinning! LOL Round and round! It was rollowing like a wheels it was! I was in hysterics, I mean, I didn't get seriously damaged, hull integrity down to 96% but lol! To see it roll, it was hilarious, it was rolling round and round as it was diving, till it stopped rolling and just wobbled side to side really heavily. I was nearly crying I was laughing so much!

The glass gauges in the control room broke which looked cool. But god alive, has anybody ever had this happen to them?

[Lzs von swe]

I have had the boat rolling so badly during dc attacks I held on to my desk for dear life:rock: But never a complet roll, that must have been something extra:up:

[Lzs von swe]

How deep have you proud type II kaleuns taken your boats? I took my U-24, IId, down to 130m just now without any noticable probs. But the info in F1 screen says 125m is max. Beeing in -43 I do have to dive as deep as the boat can take it, even if it´s the Russians I´m up against:up:

[XanderF]

Question for all the Type II drivers (as this thread seems to have a bunch :lol: )...

...are your guages in the attack periscope room all the low-res versions? For some reason, mine are. Rest of the sub is fine - control room, sonar station, etc. All show the "high res" gauges (from GWX, IIRC). Only the room with the attack periscope shows the low-res ones.

Which...is odd. I mean, you'd think that they'd all pull from the same texture files, no? Anyone else see anything like that?

[Penelope_Grey]

The IID should be able to safely reach 160m as long as hull integrity is above 90%.

IID's realistically were made with stronger pressure hulls than their predecessors in the II type, so this much is historically accurate, as well as carrying more fuel and an improved diving system. Not sure about propulsion, I think all the II's used the same diesel engines. But I am fairly sure the IID were fitted with the improved batteries that you see on the upgrade screen in SH3 as standard.

The IIA can, at a push, reach 150m but as soon as you go beyond 150m it can't take no more and will start to damage. The IID is capable of going into the red but not too far and certainly not as much as a VII or a IX can. From test dives I have done, after 180m is when the IID begins to crack under the pressure.

[nikbear]

Question for all the Type II drivers (as this thread seems to have a bunch :lol: )...

...are your guages in the attack periscope room all the low-res versions? For some reason, mine are. Rest of the sub is fine - control room, sonar station, etc. All show the "high res" gauges (from GWX, IIRC). Only the room with the attack periscope shows the low-res ones.

Which...is odd. I mean, you'd think that they'd all pull from the same texture files, no? Anyone else see anything like that?

Not to sure:doh: but am going on a typeII patrol now so will check and get back to you:up:

[Lzs von swe]

After disabling the random crush depth in Sh3Cmdr (remd it out) I tested how deep my type IId would go. At 185m she started to take damage, we "turned around" at 200m and at 185m the lights stopped flickering again. Scared the life out off the crew:lol:

[Akinesis]

180m was when my chief had a fit :D I'm not sure how much further we went on the 'turn around', though. Might have another go :hmm:

[USS Sea Tiger]

Roll over,, and over and over

Hit by some well placed wabos the other day,, I must have completed 6 rollovers,, was amazing to watch,, but then back to the buisness of saving my A$#%%,, and slunked away licking my wounds,

[KeptinCranky]

hi,

just finished my first patrol in a IId in the black sea and damn are those Russki merchants over-escorted, 3 subhunters and 2 dds for 2 tramp steamers a coastal tanker and a large transport, I call that overkill.

I managed to sink the Large Transport and the Storozhevoy DD (or is it a CL) and sneaked off into the deep... 14k tons nice :D

Met another convoy like that in thick fog, tried to torpedo a troopship but it zigged when it should have zagged so no luck there.
Then something weird happened, all the escorting dds were coming straight for me so I launched a decoy and went down to about 140 meters, that's still fairly normal, but while doing my hydrophone checks to keep a small profile I notice that the merchants are not steaming off, they're all circling around and crossing over my approximate position as if they were making dc-runs...odd :huh:

I then decide to take a look with the external camera, and indeed the troopship is pretending to be a DD, so are the 2 tramp steamers, they all have their lights blazing and are chugging around, it's a huge mess. I made some screenies but I'm at work so can't post them

The russians really really don't appreciate my precense :arrgh!:

I got away entirely undamaged but i was out of fish so I returned to port, not bad for a first patrol

[Lzs von swe]

Welcome to the 30´th Flot Herr Kaleun:up:

I have seen that behavior a lot in the Black Sea, I think those Russian captains are so drunk on Vodka that they think they are commanding battle ships:roll:

[Crazy Ian]

Bloody Lerwick sub base.. I go all the way there and all there was were 2 destroyers, some fishing boats and a bloomin' S class.....

Where's the sub tenders??? :rotfl:

[gord96]

what year can i take a type IID to the Black Sea?

[Crazy Ian]

what year can i take a type IID to the Black Sea?

Looking at the GWX manual it's 1943

[KeptinCranky]

october of 42 is the first month, but you might want to transfer from somewhere else to have the renown to pimp your canoe, you do really need the goodies like batteries, and definitely radar detection, Decoys and bigger enigine are nice too, don't knwo about flak guns, haven't seen any planes yet, but 2 is better than one I say :cool:

did the Russians historically have radar in 42?? kinda hard to imagine. especially on all their ships...oh well, adds spice to the whole thing, and makes their convoys a lot easier to detect and track at 35km out, radar does work both ways:arrgh!:

[gord96]

As soon as I crawl out of the Type II and back into the VII u fools pull me back in!! :nope:

Hehe. Black Sea sounds like fun to me. Put on Fubars camo and I am good to go!:up:

[Lzs von swe]

Yes , join the 30 th:up:
Short trips, some 10-12 days then time for the girls:rock:
If you go ahead full on the surface it only takes some 80+ hours from one end to the other. In calm seas, that is:arrgh!:

[XanderF]

Question for all the Type II drivers (as this thread seems to have a bunch :lol: )...

...are your guages in the attack periscope room all the low-res versions? For some reason, mine are. Rest of the sub is fine - control room, sonar station, etc. All show the "high res" gauges (from GWX, IIRC). Only the room with the attack periscope shows the low-res ones.

Which...is odd. I mean, you'd think that they'd all pull from the same texture files, no? Anyone else see anything like that?

Not to sure:doh: but am going on a typeII patrol now so will check and get back to you:up:

Any more thoughts on this? I pulled out a few mods, but it's still showing low res in the attack periscope room (that room between the bridge and control room...what IS that room called?)

Could it be related to the 'correct periscope position' mod for the Type II? Or is this just a stock GWX thing?

october of 42 is the first month, but you might want to transfer from somewhere else to have the renown to pimp your canoe, you do really need the goodies like batteries, and definitely radar detection, Decoys and bigger enigine are nice too, don't knwo about flak guns, haven't seen any planes yet, but 2 is better than one I say :cool:

did the Russians historically have radar in 42?? kinda hard to imagine. especially on all their ships...oh well, adds spice to the whole thing, and makes their convoys a lot easier to detect and track at 35km out, radar does work both ways:arrgh!:

RE: 'goodies'. Do the IIDs get radar? (Not just detection, but actual radar transmitters?)

[gord96]

did my first black sea patrol last night in a IID. Loved it. Sunk a few ships. Also noticed the crazy russian convoy behavior.

Gotta get the dual flack tower too! Great addition and only 300 renown :up:

[Lzs von swe]

So thats were you are:lol: In the conning tower.
I have not noticed any difference between the different gauges. I´m in my type VIIb at the moment so I can´t check until later. As for radar look in tech tree when in the upgrade screen, press the ? mark in lower right corner. I´m in Aug -43 and no radar in sight.

[XanderF]

So thats were you are:lol: In the conning tower.
I have not noticed any difference between the different gauges. I´m in my type VIIb at the moment so I can´t check until later. As for radar look in tech tree when in the upgrade screen, press the ? mark in lower right corner. I´m in Aug -43 and no radar in sight.

CONNING TOWER! Yes, that's it! I forgot the term, nuke boats don't have one of those.

[nikbear]

Xander.I've not noticed any difference in the guages,sorry it took so long to answer you but I've limited time on SHIII(BLoody work Grrrrrr:nope: )Still plodding away in my canoe of the east coast of england,3 more merchants won't be returning to port,and neither will they're 2 armed trawler escorts(god I hate those things,shallow draft and they turn on a dime)I'm really thinking of a run in the black sea though,it would appear this years(1942)holiday destination.sun,vodka and mad russians to sink,whats not to love!:up: Finally got my twin flak for my typeIID,Miss PG was right,I,like the thicky Iam was editing the wrong file:oops: what a prat!but it works a treat,as a lowly,as in under the sea,anson found out;)

[gord96]

do it Nik. The black sea is great. Not very big so fuel isn't a huge concern but it is very deep. Also with some radar detection its easy to find the Rusky convoys :up:

U-137 Out!

[KeptinCranky]

concerning radar, I'm not much of a late war skipper, but I don't like anything that can easily broadcast my position to others, never used radar successfully but did get 2 brand new IXD2s blasted out from under me in Biscay 2 days out form bordeaux by forgetting to turn it off at start of the patrol.

radar :-?

question: The russians seem to cluster together in heavily escorted convoys Merchant to escort ratio about 1:1, admittedly I haven't visited the safer (for them that is) southern areas yet, If I want to stalk lone victims, would that be the place to go?

also, what's up with the storozhevoy, 3k tons for a DD, the russians like them big? does it carry more wodka that way? or is it a Light Cruiser...?

oh well off to sink a few...:|\\

[Hondo314]

Kaleuns:

Has anyone perfected the art of sinking tankers in port with one fish? I have enjoyed raiding ports in my IID becasue I only have time to do a patrol in a single evening. Past discussion in other threads has focused on how to sink tankers with the fewest number of fish. I have never encountered a tanker in deep water yet, so I cannot comment on the probability of sinking a tanker with one fish to the engine room over deep water, but it doesn't work in port because the stern hits bottom. Using magnetic pistols under the aft edge of the forward superstructure (where the back breaks) results in a 30% sink probability (broken back), and a second fish to the engine room with a contact pistol results in a 60% sink probability (if the back didn't break). Past posts describing one-fish techniques do not specify keel depth, and having tried them I assume their effectiveness is restricted to deep water. The port I raid most often is Hartlepool, and I am currently exploring whether the same is true in other ports. Barring a variation in keel depth, I don't anticipate any difference.

[Lzs von swe]

question: The russians seem to cluster together in heavily escorted convoys Merchant to escort ratio about 1:1, admittedly I haven't visited the safer (for them that is) southern areas yet, If I want to stalk lone victims, would that be the place to go?

also, what's up with the storozhevoy, 3k tons for a DD, the russians like them big? does it carry more wodka that way? or is it a Light Cruiser...?

oh well off to sink a few...:|\\

I´ve seen small unescorted convoys coming out of Samsun on the Turkish coast. And you might find loners if you go close to the eastern shores of the "lake":up:

[Crazy Ian]

Kaleuns:

Has anyone perfected the art of sinking tankers in port with one fish? I have enjoyed raiding ports in my IID becasue I only have time to do a patrol in a single evening. Past discussion in other threads has focused on how to sink tankers with the fewest number of fish. I have never encountered a tanker in deep water yet, so I cannot comment on the probability of sinking a tanker with one fish to the engine room over deep water, but it doesn't work in port because the stern hits bottom. Using magnetic pistols under the aft edge of the forward superstructure (where the back breaks) results in a 30% sink probability (broken back), and a second fish to the engine room with a contact pistol results in a 60% sink probability (if the back didn't break). Past posts describing one-fish techniques do not specify keel depth, and having tried them I assume their effectiveness is restricted to deep water. The port I raid most often is Hartlepool, and I am currently exploring whether the same is true in other ports. Barring a variation in keel depth, I don't anticipate any difference.

I wish I could do that.... instead of my meagre harbour raiding attempts...

[Lzs von swe]

@XanderF
I´m in my canoe now, better known as U-24, and no, I do not have any lowres gauges in the conning tower. Coming to think of it I don´t even have the TLowRes folder in my Textures folder. Deleted it as the game reads it even when it´s not needed. I think it was the Kptn himself that wrote something on this, you get better game performance without it. In my Textures\TNormal\tex folder I have only three .tga files. I f you haven't already, try moving your \TLowRes folder somewhere else and see what happens.

[nikbear]

Right,so I've started a black sea TypeIID career,any advice for sinking the vodka swilling hordes:arrgh!: Anyone?

[nikbear]

Well that was strange,started the first patrol,sailed out of constanza everything fine.didn't get to far as had to do something so exited out and docked at constanza,came back to it today,started the second patrol and at the loading screen it tells me that my base has changed to lorient and dumps my typeIID just of the southwest coast of africa:o :huh: :damn: what the hell is that all about!:down: so I've had to delete the career and start again,just finished my first patrol out of constanza again and am now worried about starting another patrol incase it dumps me in the middle of no where again,has this happened to anyone else?

[Lzs von swe]

If I read you right you did not go out far enough before returning to base. You should always go at least 50km out before returning to base. In other words, when you no longer see "Dock at Constanza" and instead see "Return to base", it is safe to do so.

[nikbear]

Aha!that would be it!:oops: my legendery stupidity strikes again:damn: although dumping me off the southwest coast of africa in a typeII seems a bit mean;)

[Lzs von swe]

You´re not alone, believe me:lol:
"although dumping me off the southwest coast of africa in a typeII seems a bit mean;)" Thats the games way of telling you to play by its rules or ells:stare: :rotfl:

[danurve]

Hey, I wonder if a IID out of Kiel has enough fuel to make it to Thaila, resupply and with it's low profile break through Gibraltar? :arrgh!:

[Lzs von swe]

Hey:up:
I think you would have to stop at El Ferrol or Vigo:hmm:
And take only two extra torps, you will need the space for extra supplies.

[Lzs von swe]

November -43, 30´th Flot. Constanza.
Willie Ranacher looks at the Commandant in disbelief.
-Lake of Azov? The Russians can walk out to us at Kertch and place mines on our deck:damn:

Will the 12´th patrol be the end to U-24?

[Lagger123987]

U-00, An IIA out of wiliamshave.

[Penelope_Grey]

Hey, I wonder if a IID out of Kiel has enough fuel to make it to Thaila, resupply and with it's low profile break through Gibraltar? :arrgh!:

Set speed to 6 knots and you may just make it!

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

I just started a new career after my U-230 got sunk late August of 1940 by getting rammed by a merchant ship...don't ask:nope:


I really like the Type II U-Boats, and plan on using them until at least summer of 1940, perhaps longer. I really like the coastal patrols.

[nikbear]

I just started a new career after my U-230 got sunk late August of 1940 by getting rammed by a merchant ship...don't ask:nope:


I really like the Type II U-Boats, and plan on using them until at least summer of 1940, perhaps longer. I really like the coastal patrols.

Thats the spirit,it takes cunning and skill to make the most out of a TypeII,the most fun and excitment I've had playing this game is in a typeII,your at your most vunerable and yet your most agile,every torp has to count,I bet you've never sweared as much as when a typeII torp misses by a hairs breadth.The problem is when if your like me you go back to other careers and start using typeVII's and typeIX's,talk about square pegs in round hole's;)

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

I have a Type IID now, U-137, since my U-6 was damaged beyond repair during my 2nd patrol. Details on how that happened can be found by clicking on my sig image and pulling up the captain's log for patrol 2. What saved me from total destruction was that these Type II boats present such a small target for tin cans, and, except for one case, they often missed by quite a bit.

I took U-137 out for a shakedown run and I'm very impressed. It's tiny, and a crash dive will bring the boat under in a hurry unlike those bigger boats.

[Lzs von swe]

Just sank an armed tug, using the C/38 Flak Zwilling:rock:
U-24 was just entering the Lake of Azov at 0500 loc. time with 12m. of water under her keel, when the Rwr came to life. After radio contact with Kertch we knew it was not one of our own ships. Decks awash and kleine fart foraus was ordered. At 0530 the armed tug was spotted at some 5000m. Shortly after that an small merchant and an tramp steamer was spotted. All three tubes were loaded with T3´s set for magnetic, tube 2 was fired at the tramp steamer, tube1 at the small merchant and tube 3 at the tug. One torp prematured but then the two merchants was hit, almost simultaneously, blowing them to pieces:up:
But the tug then caught us in her search light and came after us, guns blazing. As she came within 500m the Flak guns were manned, I took the aft one and at almost point blank range opened fire. Nocked out her light, then her machine guns and the gun crew, then there was a series of explotions and she was gone:rock: The rate of fire from those C/38 Zwillings is fenomenal:yep:
No crew losses, but we will not dive to deep for the rest of the patrol:hmm:

[nikbear]

Wish I could do that,whenever I've tried to take on and armed tug or trawler I seem to pick the one with attitude and the kind of marksmanship that would put the SAS to shame:nope:

[KeptinCranky]

been cheating on the canoe with the bigger boats :oops: what can I say....more eels...and I'm loving the Med, it's full of warships yes, but at least you get warmer weather and the occasional oddity like a lone british S-class sub :sunny:

I've had the africa bug too, kept the saved game so when I have a holiday or something I can try and get back to a friendly base, this was In 39 so no resupply ships in spain, I measured the whole thing out, and I figure I can make it back to Wilhelmshaven if I never exceed 6 knts for any reason and if I go through der Kanal, nearest neutral port would be in south america or spain :cry: also by the time I get home the resupply ships will have arrived in Spain so I might just wait for those, don't know what we're going to eat though.......

[Crazy Ian]

It's early 1940 and BdU are trying to assist me in suicide.. For some reason they keep sending me to patrol slap bang in the middle of the Kanal...

[Jimbuna]

Simple....just change the grid via SH3Cmdr :arrgh!:

[Crazy Ian]

Simple....just change the grid via SH3Cmdr :arrgh!:

But thats cheating!!! :lol:

Also strangely I got transferred from Kiel to Willemshaven without putting a flotilla transfer request in... any ideas?

Also what is the optimum engine settings for maximum range in the wee beasties?

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

Simple....just change the grid via SH3Cmdr :arrgh!:
But thats cheating!!! :lol:

Also strangely I got transferred from Kiel to Willemshaven without putting a flotilla transfer request in... any ideas?

Also what is the optimum engine settings for maximum range in the wee beasties?

for Type IIs?

Ahead 2/3 (7 to 8kts) My Type IID gets 13,000+ km range with that.

[Jimbuna]

Also strangely I got transferred from Kiel to Willemshaven without putting a flotilla transfer request in... any ideas?

They caught you cheating :hmm:
:lol:

[Crazy Ian]

They caught you cheating :hmm:
:lol:

Probably... BdU are wondering where I got the space to fit an auto-tdc computer down the boat!

[Jimbuna]

They caught you cheating :hmm:
:lol:

Probably... BdU are wondering where I got the space to fit an auto-tdc computer down the boat!

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Lzs von swe]

With only six torps and no deck gun you need every trick you can find:rotfl:

[Oberon]

U-12, Type IIA out of Kiel, though thinking of putting in for a transfer to Wilhelms as the Denmark run takes up a load of fuel, and I can't get the Canal auto-pilot to work yet.
Great little boat, managed to bag 1 large merchant for around 10k tonnes then spent the rest of the patrol being thrown around the boat in a storm that kept putting the poor watch crew underwater....how they're still alive I'll never know...must be wearing Momsens lungs or something. ;)
Had to lay in at Wilhelms to pick up some more fuel and supplies before a quick shuttle run back out into the Southern part of the North Sea and now I'm heading back to Kiel.
Great little boat, but I think I might see if I can beg, borrow or steal a deck gun from Bdu. Save the torps for the big guys... :hmm:

What can I say? I'm a SHIII newbie. :yep:

[SleightOfHand]

Started a Black Sea career, and I'm in. The Type IID is a great little boat, even if I can only bag three ships a patrol.

I did a harbor raid at the end of the last one. Did you know that torpedo nets only go down about fifty-some meters. I stayed low and slow, went right underneath the nets, the destroyers didn't hear me, and I popped up to periscope depth to put my last two torpedos right into the side of a modern medium tanker parked six hundred meters away.

Let's see you do THAT in a IX!

[Oberon]

Type IIA - U-12 - Comm: Oberlt Wilhelm Marr - Surrendered to the Allies - Feb 1940 Hartlepool harbour. U-12 scuttled.

:damn:

[Jimbuna]

Type IIA - U-12 - Comm: Oberlt Wilhelm Marr - Surrendered to the Allies - Feb 1940 Hartlepool harbour. U-12 scuttled.

:damn:

Did the monkey go down with the boat? :hmm:

[Oberon]

Type IIA - U-12 - Comm: Oberlt Wilhelm Marr - Surrendered to the Allies - Feb 1940 Hartlepool harbour. U-12 scuttled.

:damn:

Did the monkey go down with the boat? :hmm:

Nope, it got taken to a POW camp in Scotland. :smug:

[Jimbuna]

http://www.thisishartlepool.co.uk/history/thehartlepoolmonkey.asp :rotfl:

[SleightOfHand]

The place: Batumi, Georgia (the Black Sea)
The time: 3:30am local
The boat: Type IID U-139


I was approaching submerged from the side, because the last time I snuck around Batumi, I missed a large tanker moored on the northern side. Snuck in as usual, underneath the torpedo nets, and made my way around. A destroyer found me, and called in on--tw--four of his pals, and even though they only came close, they were never that far away. So there I am, approaching the target in heavy fog, and I come up to periscope depth and risk popping the scope up for a few moments. I can't see my target yet, and by the nav map I'm not more than six hundred meters away. Oops, a destroyer found me; flooding in the diesel engines! I secured from silent running, went to flank speed, and put the scope up. There she is, looming out of the fog, a passenger liner! I opened all three tubes, set up a 0-gyro-angle solution--and the destroyer behind me ran my attack scope over. I hit the fire button anyway and crash dove--but "Wir sind in seichtem Wasser, Herr Kaleun!" The boat made a nice BONK as I smacked the bow off the ground. So then I order all back emergency, set depth to 18 meters, and go ahead slow to turn away.

I thought I was out of hot water, but no more than ten seconds later, I hear a scraping, and... my depth is increasing? The liner is sinking on top of me! Flank speed! And then, BONK goes the bow as I smack it into the pier. I ordered all back emergency and reversed rudder, and then I decided I'd better try to keep my head a bit better, and that a little rest would do me good. All stop, and I just sat there, eighteen meters down, while the liner sank next to me. After ten minutes or so, I ordered ahead slow and silent running and limped away.

Needless to say, even though I had three torpedoes left, I decided heading straight back for Constanza would be the prudent move. >.>

[Oberon]

http://www.thisishartlepool.co.uk/history/thehartlepoolmonkey.asp :rotfl:

:o :o :o :o

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Only in Hartlepool! :up:

[Iron Budokan]

http://www.thisishartlepool.co.uk/history/thehartlepoolmonkey.asp :rotfl:

"The fishermen apparently questioned the monkey...."

:o

[Jimbuna]

http://www.thisishartlepool.co.uk/history/thehartlepoolmonkey.asp :rotfl:

:o :o :o

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Only in Hartlepool! :up:

I thought "What a wasted effort, the bugger missed it" :lol:

[Oberon]

http://www.thisishartlepool.co.uk/history/thehartlepoolmonkey.asp :rotfl:

:o :o :o

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Only in Hartlepool! :up:

I thought "What a wasted effort, the bugger missed it" :lol:

I wish those DDs had ;)

[Ula Jolly]

Herman Mensch, Kiel - 1939 (IIA). I absolutely intend to follow the Norwegian invasion when that time comes, but first I must test the Kiel-channel, maybe get some Polish refugees. Well, of course only military. Until there is incentive to do otherwise.

[bigboywooly]

The place: Batumi, Georgia (the Black Sea)
The time: 3:30am local
The boat: Type IID U-139


I was approaching submerged from the side, because the last time I snuck around Batumi, I missed a large tanker moored on the northern side. Snuck in as usual, underneath the torpedo nets, and made my way around. A destroyer found me, and called in on--tw--four of his pals, and even though they only came close, they were never that far away. So there I am, approaching the target in heavy fog, and I come up to periscope depth and risk popping the scope up for a few moments. I can't see my target yet, and by the nav map I'm not more than six hundred meters away. Oops, a destroyer found me; flooding in the diesel engines! I secured from silent running, went to flank speed, and put the scope up. There she is, looming out of the fog, a passenger liner! I opened all three tubes, set up a 0-gyro-angle solution--and the destroyer behind me ran my attack scope over. I hit the fire button anyway and crash dove--but "Wir sind in seichtem Wasser, Herr Kaleun!" The boat made a nice BONK as I smacked the bow off the ground. So then I order all back emergency, set depth to 18 meters, and go ahead slow to turn away.

I thought I was out of hot water, but no more than ten seconds later, I hear a scraping, and... my depth is increasing? The liner is sinking on top of me! Flank speed! And then, BONK goes the bow as I smack it into the pier. I ordered all back emergency and reversed rudder, and then I decided I'd better try to keep my head a bit better, and that a little rest would do me good. All stop, and I just sat there, eighteen meters down, while the liner sank next to me. After ten minutes or so, I ordered ahead slow and silent running and limped away.

Needless to say, even though I had three torpedoes left, I decided heading straight back for Constanza would be the prudent move. >.>

Sounds like you need a dodgem car simulator
:rotfl:

Surprised your boat stood up to that punishment
The things we do for a fat liner eh

[DrMilton]

I thought I was out of hot water, but no more than ten seconds later, I hear a scraping, and... my depth is increasing? The liner is sinking on top of me! Flank speed! And then, BONK goes the bow as I smack it into the pier. I ordered all back emergency and reversed rudder, and then I decided I'd better try to keep my head a bit better, and that a little rest would do me good. All stop, and I just sat there, eighteen meters down, while the liner sank next to me.

Who was manning the helms? The Three Stodges...? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Ula Jolly]

I just returned from AN51, 4th-5th of September. Bagged a C&W (amazing one-torp hit), missed a schooner (don't ask) and TOO late realized the deal with illuminated ships.:dead: That poor Norwegian.
It's gonna be, I think, 25th of September or so till I get to undock again. I assume that I missed the Polish evacuation, are there any operations going that I should get in on that aren't listed in the manual for GWX?

[SleightOfHand]

Since I'm far too cowardly to play dead is dead, you'll see me taking insane risks on a fairly regular basis, although I have to admit that that particular occasion saw me being a little bit crazier than usual. I think I have a few pictures...well, only one.

http://pinebluff.dyndns.org/%7Ejay/sh3screen1.jpg

Surprisingly, I made it back with 75% hull integrity.

[Ula Jolly]

Oh bloody! :down:
Defenses at Larwick are wee bit heavy. Still I bagged some five destroyers. I was going to approach land to let the only one left in my pursuit hit ground (hehehe!) - but I was reckless, I assumed that he was out of DCs and wouldn't hit my ship as I approached, and eventually I got a damned lot of damage reports. Ach, after an hour of wrestling.:shifty:
Couldn't have pulled the same in a VII. In a VII, I'd have made it off with all the destroyers from range, rather than worrying about my single eel left for whatever was at the submarine base.:nope:

[Fangschuß!]

I bought the game two days ago and found the learning curve quite difficult. Got a bit cocky and started in Lorient in 1941 in a VII, but my seafaring skills were decidedly amateur, to the point that simple navigation and targeting were proving impossible, not to mention my non-chalant attitude to torpedoes and their expendability. Ultimately I was sunk trying to "raid" Southend and accepted I needed to start with the basics.

New career, 1st Flotilla, out of Willemshaven, in a nice, shiny IIA. The sub is perfect for me because it teaches the importance of weapons management and careful navigation; you have to plot a near perfect interception, what with the IIA being too slow to catch up whilst submerged.

My first two patrols were good for a novice, a C2 Cargo inbound for Forth of Fife on the first and a fishing boat and Coastal Merchant on the second.

However, the action really hotted up on my third patrol. With the meagre renown I had, I put together a crew who virtually maxed out the respective compartments when at full capacity. BDU instructed me to patrol the grid closest to Scapa Flow. After a mundane trip up their (not so much as a seagull to be seen) and an even duller twenty four hours patrolling with no action, I did consider packing it all in and applying for a desk job. I sent a status report to BDU and a few moments later came their reply:

"BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!"

They were right, there was no way I could allow the rotund English populous to be provided with the various luxuries they oh so desired, I had to take the war into my own hands...

To Dover!

On the way round East Anglia a lone Coastal Merchant was quickly dispatched, a good omen. As we entered the channel, my Sonarman picked up what appeared to be a very large convoy moving slowly westwards. Jackpot, this was to be the haul that earnt me the Iron Cross. Diving to twenty metres and maintaing a constant parallel to the convoy, we slowly worked our way in front of them till we were directly in front, about seven kilometres away. I sunk the sub to sea bed, drew the engines to a stop and just waited. We kept waiting and waiting until they were about a kilometre away, escorted by about eight warships, all at the outer edges of the convoy, unaware of our presence directly in the middle of the defenceless merchant ships' path.

Once they were almost upon me, I blew the ballast and drifted up, raising the attack periscope to save vital seconds, this was going to have to be a very quick shoot and escape mission, with no room for error. Those few seconds as the periscope was at the breaking point below the water were truly exhilirating, gaining a lock on a large merchant ship, opening the tube bay and watching as the water rushed past the scope, "FIRE ONE!" the torpedoe whizzed away, its little bubbles a path to destruction.

I picked my next target, not dead on like the last shot, a difficult angle but makeable, an even large merchant ship. "FIRE TWO!" My explosive love tube leapt at the opportunity to show its sheer power. as I turned hard to port to submerge and escape the now inbound warships, I noticed there was a perfect target about one kilometre away. Locked, waited for the angle to close up and aimed for a difficult shot at a forty five degree angle, there was a high chance it might bounce off. But I fired anway, it was clear I wouldn't have an opportunity like this again.

We submerged, rigged for silent running and quietly dodged the warships' attempts to track us down. Three direct hits, three vessels sunk and a bloody good hit and run. We cruised back to Willemshaven, stopped briefly by a plane which my AA man dispatched with ease, and returned as heroes.

A hefty twenty thousand plus haul, a major blow to the psychological war and the Iron Cross to boot. It's still only 1939 and my plucky crew and I have tasted our first real action. Screw the big boy ships, it's all about the underdog winning big time.

[Indiana_Jones]

I think the type II is just so cute! :D

-Indy

[Donnystu]

Hello fellow Type II Kaleuns!

I've been lurking on this site for nearly a year now but this is the first time I've felt the need to post.

I'm currently in 1940 operating out of Kiel in a IID. My problem is that I'm having trouble locating any decent targets within my range. There used to be a lot of Polish merchants south of Kristiansand but they have gone now it seems. I'm too scared to go near the ports like Hartlepool and Southend because of mines! Anybody know of any good hunting grounds for our little boats. Using GWX 1.03.

Cheers

Stu

[Myxale]

Lo there! Im also an fan of the Type 2. I was a XI Kaleun for a long time, but the long and time consuming patrols got too much.

The type 2 is a fine boot. Quick, nimble and great diving times. Sure you cannot sail around the world, but for a decent patrol around the #Kanal# area its almost perfect.
The shorter patrol time does not mean shallow gaming.:hmm:

[Penelope_Grey]

I am out of the Type II club, I gotted sunk.:nope:

[Lzs von swe]

Hello fellow Type II Kaleuns!

I've been lurking on this site for nearly a year now but this is the first time I've felt the need to post.

I'm currently in 1940 operating out of Kiel in a IID. My problem is that I'm having trouble locating any decent targets within my range. There used to be a lot of Polish merchants south of Kristiansand but they have gone now it seems. I'm too scared to go near the ports like Hartlepool and Southend because of mines! Anybody know of any good hunting grounds for our little boats. Using GWX 1.03.

Cheers

Stu

Hi and welcome:up:

You could try West of Bergen or just Northeast of Scapa Flow. More enemy planes and destroyers in the last example:hmm:

[WolfOfCampscapel]

My best patrol so far, in my IIA, was between Scapa Flow and Lerwick, early 1940. Lots of large, unescorted cargo ships. Had to let several go because I had no eels left!

[Donnystu]

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll give those areas a try soon. :arrgh!:

[bigboywooly]

Welcome aboard Fangschuss\WolfOfCampscapel and Donnystu

Where are your manners the rest of you :nope:
Never used the type 2 other than test missions in the Black Sea though I might have to give it a serious run out one of these days

[DonMarco1976]

Well, it happened now. After having made my missions using a type VII-boat, I suddenly found this thread. It's real fun to have just 6 eels and no deck gun - it's an absolutely different type of gameplay. And harbour attacks are much easier :D

[Jimbuna]

Welcome aboard to you all :arrgh!:
Oh....and don't forget to dock with the milch cow as your leaving port :lol:

[WolfOfCampscapel]

Actually being able to survive at 15m water depth with an angry destroyer after me was rather astonishing. The II's are fun! :)

[Salvadoreno]

wow ive NEVER tried a type II.. EVER.. and i tried a IX boat once. Got to AMerica.. and died.. lol.

I think with my next career, ill try a type II with realnavigation mod. Since i wont be traveling far i think that will be a good intro boat to the real nav mod. Niceee... I must say i dont kno if it can change my position on my wonderful VIIB! I love it! I think i might pass my first Kaluen with my current U-30, for the first time EVER!!!!!!!!!!

[gord96]

lets here some more type II stories. everytime i try my type IX or type VII careers I get about half a patrol in and then long for the type IID! :up:

[cultist]

what are the best patrol zones that have a lota ships for a II in 39?
and do they change over the years?

[cultist]

how are you supposed to use this ship?
i can`t even reach the patrol designated area,i`m outa fuel :(
how do you guys play this thing :hmm:

[Lzs von swe]

At outbreak of the war, you might try going East toward Poland and take out some Poles. Then try West of Bergen, there´s usually some British ships heading for Bergen to sink there. Then go North East of Scapa Flow, always something to sink there:up:
Go slow, 7 knots. Going faster will only burn fuel to no avail. To reach Scapa in an type IIa from Kiel and have enough fuel to get back to Kiel you have to conserve fuel, use the Kiel kanal. Don´t go chasing after ships that go at some 8 knots, the top speed of your boat is only 2 knots higher and you will burn a lot of diesel trying to catch up.
Oh, and welcome to the club:yep:

[Penelope_Grey]

Don't mean to contradict you von swe... but I always found the optimal fuel speed for the IIA is 6 knots. So if you want maximum range, select for 6 knots, and when you do, select the lower end of 6 knots, and that is where the IIA is most fuel efficient... Also, if you enjoy living, don't take the IIA deeper than 135 meters. Anything beyond that and your hull says "no thanks"

The IID is way better than the IIA though.

[Lzs von swe]

No worries Pen:up:
Many moons have past since last I used the IIa:sunny:

[cultist]

how do i discover the kiel canal?
i googled it for a map and i cant see it on standard map.is there a catch?

[gord96]

i wouldn't even bother with the Type IIA. Most of the chatter on her is from guys that like the type IID. Much better sub! :up:

[soma]

@ cultist (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=233046)

In the GWX mod, there is a canal going from Kiel to Wihelmshaven, so you dont have to go around Denmark.

[Penelope_Grey]

Yeah just to expand on that, the Kiel canal exit route is automatically programmed in. So before you move off in your type II, select the navigator and under search patters, click the one that says "Kiel Canal Out" all waypoints will be automatically placed for you.

Then all you gotta do is start your engine and select your navigator and tell him to follow plotted course and away you go.

To return via the canal... you will see a point it says Kiel canal inbound point. Zoom right in, and plot your course right to there, then go to navigator and under search patterns "Kiel Canal in". And hey presto. homeward bound.

Nice GWX feature. :)

[Jimbuna]

Spot on Pen :up: ;)

[Myxale]

Does anyone know if the flag pole ca be removed like it was done ages ago with the VII. The Type II looks silly with that one!

[ming]

Hi, fellas! I always liked the II and have always wrestled with the decision to leave them behind in 1940/41 for a VII. Alas... I always do. As a result, I have not seen the IID's later conning towers. Anybody have some pics of them?

[Heibges]

I've got to be honest, I hate the type II :lol:
Only got 6 torpedoes, with my shooting, that's three ships :oops:
To my mind thats a good thing. If you've only got so many torpedoes it makes you think harder about what you shoot. It makes you ask yourself "is it worth it?".

Plus if you know you only have so many shots then its a good tutor for getting better I think.

Plus she's a fast bugger. Maneuverability is unparalleled.

My Type II only has 5 torpedoes! :lol:

It stresses the ability to manage fuel, and torpedo allocation.

I will generally fire a salvo of 2 and a salvo of 3.

I will usually fire 3 torpedos at the Medium/C2 Merchant (in stock Sh3 and every mod these buggers are tough to sink) when I'm in a Type VII. In a Type VII I will usually only fire 2, especially in a convoy.

Here are my last patrols in Type 1

Shulz Patrol 1: 1 Sunk Patrol 2: 1 Sunk
Mengersen Patrol 1: 0 Sunk Patrol 1: 1 Sunk
Wohlfarth Patrol 1: 1 Sunk Patrol 2: 2 Sunk

[TarJak]

I'm still undecided as to whether I like them or not.:hmm: There is the speed, manouverability and fast diving times,:up: but then there is the short range, the cramped quarters and the lack of topredoes and a gun worth having on the boat.:down:

A good school boat for sure and not a bad tactial platform in the North Sea,:arrgh!: but very limited as a strategic platform any further out.:damn:

They definately make the game a challenge of a different sort when you are tired of long Atlantic patrols and make for good fun in the Black Sea theatre.

[Heibges]

Picture this.

It's September 1939. You're just off the coast of England, in what if you're lucky is 60 meters of water. You have 2 destroyers between you and the North Sea, who are obviously on antisubmarine patrol. There are medium seas and heavy rain, but no fog. They are barely visible at around 8500m. You have been at sea for almost 3 weeks. You are headed back to Kiel due to being low on fuel. You have all your torpedoes remaining.

What do you do?

[USS Sea Tiger]

(1.) only in a II can you do 3,4 or 5 360 roll, and see there is little or no damage (never have done a 360 roll in any other boat.)

2. harbor raiding is fun.

3. Type II captains are the "Snipers" of the uboat fleet due to their small load and stealt abilities.

[Jimbuna]

Picture this.

It's September 1939. You're just off the coast of England, in what if you're lucky is 60 meters of water. You have 2 destroyers between you and the North Sea, who are obviously on antisubmarine patrol. There are medium seas and heavy rain, but no fog. They are barely visible at around 8500m. You have been at sea for almost 3 weeks. You are headed back to Kiel due to being low on fuel. You have all your torpedoes remaining.

What do you do?

With a full load of eels aboard I'd rather go home with some tonnage, the conditions are in the subs favour, so go get em!! :arrgh!:

[Lzs von swe]

Hi, fellas! I always liked the II and have always wrestled with the decision to leave them behind in 1940/41 for a VII. Alas... I always do. As a result, I have not seen the IID's later conning towers. Anybody have some pics of them?

Hi, fella:up:
Look at the first page of this thread:hmm: And, for your viewing pleasure, here´s one more:up:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u101/vonswe/U-24_IID.jpg

[ming]

Thanks for the pic, I may have mistaken the ones in the earlier post for the normal or earlier tower. And about the senario above, I think I would sit tight and wait a few days for some lone merchants or cargos to pass by since you are so close to coastal traffic. Just off the north-east part of England up to the channels leading over toward the Atlantic is a great spot!

[akula_krieg]

I just started a new career after my U-230 got sunk late August of 1940 by getting rammed by a merchant ship...don't ask:nope:


Ten bucks says Bernard was involved.

:rotfl:

[nikbear]

Hey Lzs von swe,that is one smashing picture,looks like I've found a new desktop if you don't mind:up:

[Heibges]

Is the round antenna in a mod?

I really like it!:up:

[gord96]

GWX

[Lzs von swe]

Hey Lzs von swe,that is one smashing picture,looks like I've found a new desktop if you don't mind:up:

Just send me a GF8800 card and it will be ok:up:

Just joking, of course I don´t mind:up: :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

Is the round antenna in a mod?

I really like it!:up:

GWX 1.03 :up:

[KeybdFlyer]

Could someone let me know when the Type IID comes into service with SH3 Commander set to historic U-Boat availability dates? I'm on my fifth mission in my little IIA and would dearly love to be able to get a little further afield! Current game date is Feb 16th 1940 and just got back to Kiel to find the only available upgrade is to the diesels - still no IID. Ah well - off we go again to AN81 :D

[Lzs von swe]

According to the SH3 Commander - Help file the IID should be available from September -40.

[KeybdFlyer]

Thanks for that :up: - as it happens I'd just discovered the info myself in the same place and came back to remove the request! Should've looked in SH3C first! :lol:

[IrischKapitan]

According to the SH3 Commander - Help file the IID should be available from September -40.
Hmm I got my Type II in January '40

Off course I havnt SH3 commander

[Sailor Steve]

According to the SH3 Commander - Help file the IID should be available from September -40.
Hmm I got my Type II in January '40

Off course I havnt SH3 commander
But do you have the IIa or the IId?

And Commander is the single greatest tool made for the game; Don't leave port without it!

[sasquatch]

hmmm, this thread is making me think twice about the type II. I'm on my first career and just left the VIIB for a IXB. All those torps and that big gun can definately make for an overconfident commander (as I play without any mods, for now).

[Jimbuna]

Shush!.....this thread went to sleep nearly 4 months ago ;)

[NiclDoe]

@ Jim :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: you make me laugh Jim every time you say something funny and lets get Seth to burry this in the old RIP threads

[sasquatch]

I like the new IXB I just got, but the patrol grids are miserable to reach. Pus, it takes FOREVER to use up all of those torps. I think I'll start a typeII career soon, after I get GWX...

[floundericiousWA]

I like the new IXB I just got, but the patrol grids are miserable to reach. Pus, it takes FOREVER to use up all of those torps. I think I'll start a typeII career soon, after I get GWX...

search the board for things like "TC" "4096" "2048"

You can reset the time compression max to higher values for those miserably long treks around the horn :hmm:

[sasquatch]

I like the new IXB I just got, but the patrol grids are miserable to reach. Pus, it takes FOREVER to use up all of those torps. I think I'll start a typeII career soon, after I get GWX...
search the board for things like "TC" "4096" "2048"

You can reset the time compression max to higher values for those miserably long treks around the horn :hmm:

I tried increasing the TC values, but the game got really glitchy. Either the game would freeze, or I couldn't bring the TC down at all...

[Penelope_Grey]

I've become quite well re-acquainted with my old love the IID such a good little boat!

[Jimbuna]

I like the new IXB I just got, but the patrol grids are miserable to reach. Pus, it takes FOREVER to use up all of those torps. I think I'll start a typeII career soon, after I get GWX...
search the board for things like "TC" "4096" "2048"

You can reset the time compression max to higher values for those miserably long treks around the horn :hmm:

I tried increasing the TC values, but the game got really glitchy. Either the game would freeze, or I couldn't bring the TC down at all...

Try using SH3 Commander and input your own grid details :arrgh!:

[sasquatch]

I like the new IXB I just got, but the patrol grids are miserable to reach. Pus, it takes FOREVER to use up all of those torps. I think I'll start a typeII career soon, after I get GWX...
search the board for things like "TC" "4096" "2048"

You can reset the time compression max to higher values for those miserably long treks around the horn :hmm:
I tried increasing the TC values, but the game got really glitchy. Either the game would freeze, or I couldn't bring the TC down at all...
Try using SH3 Commander and input your own grid details :arrgh!:

Is it compatible with GWX?

[Jimbuna]

I like the new IXB I just got, but the patrol grids are miserable to reach. Pus, it takes FOREVER to use up all of those torps. I think I'll start a typeII career soon, after I get GWX...
search the board for things like "TC" "4096" "2048"

You can reset the time compression max to higher values for those miserably long treks around the horn :hmm:
I tried increasing the TC values, but the game got really glitchy. Either the game would freeze, or I couldn't bring the TC down at all...
Try using SH3 Commander and input your own grid details :arrgh!:

Is it compatible with GWX?

Most definitely :yep:

[Lzs von swe]

I like the new IXB I just got, but the patrol grids are miserable to reach. Pus, it takes FOREVER to use up all of those torps. I think I'll start a typeII career soon, after I get GWX...
search the board for things like "TC" "4096" "2048"

You can reset the time compression max to higher values for those miserably long treks around the horn :hmm:
I tried increasing the TC values, but the game got really glitchy. Either the game would freeze, or I couldn't bring the TC down at all...
Try using SH3 Commander and input your own grid details :arrgh!:

Is it compatible with GWX?

Most definitely :yep:

Just remember to use the GWX102Cfg4SH3Cmdr files and all is well:yep:

[Jimbuna]

I like the new IXB I just got, but the patrol grids are miserable to reach. Pus, it takes FOREVER to use up all of those torps. I think I'll start a typeII career soon, after I get GWX...
search the board for things like "TC" "4096" "2048"

You can reset the time compression max to higher values for those miserably long treks around the horn :hmm:
I tried increasing the TC values, but the game got really glitchy. Either the game would freeze, or I couldn't bring the TC down at all...
Try using SH3 Commander and input your own grid details :arrgh!:

Is it compatible with GWX?

Most definitely :yep:

Just remember to use the GWX102Cfg4SH3Cmdr files and all is well:yep:

Good man :up: .....I forgot to mention that :damn:

Available from my sig :lol:

[gimpy117]

love to join, god i love my dinky little canoe!

nothing like creeping into scapa flow and then sneaking away, and only needing like 4 people to operate it is a strong point. plus, in the duce class, you gotta be stealthly cause there aint no way your out runnin a DD, even a corvette at 12 knots.

lets see those ix dorks try to hide with only 20 m of water under their keel!!

[Jimbuna]

So when you come across a task force of 7 ships lying at anchor, which one are you gonna ignore ? :hmm:

:lol:

[Mikey_Wolf]

The only way you'd come accross one of them is using a type II! lol You'd have to sneak into somebody's harbour for that.

[gimpy117]

just shoot the escorts, call in an air strike and annoy the merchants with your 20mm untill the airborne fireworks arrive...

what are they gonna do... it's 1939!!

[sasquatch]

just shoot the escorts, call in an ari strike and annot the merchants with your 20mm

what are they gonna do... it's 1939!!

Yeah, but you don't get credit for airstrikes. Besides, I've never had one work... And escorts don't count for much tonnage or renown either.

[gimpy117]

yeah but watching dd's sink, especially when you torp them while their coming after is a lovely little bonus...

[baggygreen]

I've become quite well re-acquainted with my old love the IID such a good little boat!Surely you jest penny...

I thought the IX was your new love? he'll be heartbroken to know you've still got some affection for the former flame..

:lol:

[sasquatch]

Just started a Type II Career. I'm loving it!!! Just finished upgrading to a Type IID:hmm:I snuck into Scapa Flow without any trouble...

[Jonathan]

how do you upgrade to a Type II-D?

Oh wait...I remembeer now.

Why would you want to? Is it that much better? Me persoanlly, I am saving up for the new Type VIIB...I should have it when I go into port next.

[Gorshkov]

Do you really command this crap? Just for kamikaze fun? :rotfl:

[sasquatch]

how do you upgrade to a Type II-D?

Oh wait...I remembeer now.

Why would you want to? Is it that much better? Me persoanlly, I am saving up for the new Type VIIB...I should have it when I go into port next.

I wanted to start a more challenging career. I commanded a Type VIIB for 14 patrols in my first career. Great u-boat, but it takes forever to dive in it. I'm planning on lots of harbor raids in the Type IID. The IID has 3 1/2 times the range of the IIA and can dive in 25 seconds. Not too shabby...

[Jimbuna]

Do you really command this crap? Just for kamikaze fun? :rotfl:

They sank over half a million tons of shipping :arrgh!:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Do you really command this crap? Just for kamikaze fun? :rotfl:
They sank over half a million tons of shipping :arrgh!:
jim, ignore this troll.. read his past posts and you know what i mean,
he's a insulting, criticizing (spelling), spamming, no senced son of a "enter prefered curseword here"


as for the type II, im not a huge fan of it but its fun to watch on rough seas

[Jimbuna]

Do you really command this crap? Just for kamikaze fun? :rotfl:
They sank over half a million tons of shipping :arrgh!:
jim, ignore this troll.. read his past posts and you know what i mean,
he's a insulting, criticizing (spelling), spamming, no senced son of a "enter prefered curseword here"


as for the type II, im not a huge fan of it but its fun to watch on rough seas

:roll: ....................:hmm:

Food for thought :lol:

http://www.itsnature.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfmoon.jpg


http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd320/pasquarade/wolf-38.gif

[JAKE]

I Sank a ship in a type II but that was along time ago..:D

[Badger Finn]

Lot a skill required to do well in the type II :yep:



I like em

:up:

[pioneer162]

I'm playing a career right now in a IIb, got 3 large cargo, and an auxillary cruiser all from the same convoy last night before it scattered. Thinking about upgrading now though because there are never enough torps and my fuel always runneth over because I conserve a lot. However, I do enjoy a good harbor raid....:arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

Welcome aboard Kaleun pioneer162 :arrgh!:

You can rid yourself of the range limitation if you dock with the milch cow as your leaving your home port :lol: ;)

[zoso791]

I love the tpye IID submarines. Although they don't have the range, torepdo load or size of the type VII or IX this makes it mroe of a challenge. I'm currently on my 10th patrol aboard U-140 a type IID. Sank 77875 of shipping throughout my career with it including a auxillary cruiser and a number of depot ships and landing crafts. No one here can argue that doing a port raid is far simpler in a type II then a larger VII or IX. I've snuk into about a dozen british ports and have only taken minor damage from destroyer attack. I use to love using the VIIC subs but it just got boring. They're huge compared to the IID and have a large torpedo load(which isn't bad but its not as challenging).

Jan

[sasquatch]

don't know why everyone complains about the IID's range. It'll go over 18,000 km at 5 knots.

I just finished my 7th patrol in my first Type II career. Sank 2 C2's and 3 C3's. I'm absolutely loving the dive times and maneuverability.

[abclkhan]

I have done 12 patrols on a type IIA, and got used to its limitations. Recently I bought a VIIB and upgraded its battery. Its better in underwater range, absolutely a better sub.:nope: But after learning how to manage fuel, torps and navigation in type II, my use of VIIB got more rational...:cool:

What really please me in type II is the smaller times we spend on each patrol :smug:

[Santini]

*Waves a wand about, summoning the zombie corpse thread*

Hello.

My name is Santini, and I am a Type II addict.

[Jimbuna]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/821/discozombievs0.gif

[Santini]

*stumbles about zombie like*


".... tonnnnnsssss.... tonnnnnssssssssss...."

[sergei]

Man alive, this zombie infestation is getting worse.
I think we're fast approaching the End Of Days.

[Snestorm]

*Waves a wand about, summoning the zombie corpse thread*

Hello.

My name is Santini, and I am a Type II addict.

Hi Santini.
I'm a IXaholic.

Enjoy your addiction to the fullest (IID).
And, perhaps a-bit late: Welcome aboard.

[Santini]

:-D I'm fair certain I'll get hooked when I upgrade to the VII, and even more so when I go IX. ... the IX is a beut

[Snestorm]

:-D I'm fair certain I'll get hooked when I upgrade to the VII, and even more so when I go IX. ... the IX is a beut

Ja. The IXB is my "drug of choice", along with lots of nicotine and caffine.

[ShadowOps]

I love the IID. One of my favorite things about it is the short patrol times. With the bigger VII and IX you are out on the water longer, and I dont mind long patrols but I have learned that the longer the patrol is, the harder it is to manage your crew, specifically the Officers. The only thing I dont like is the lack of deck gun, but then again the sea is usually too rough to use it. I never keep the flak gun on my boat for the same reason. Its pretty useless anyway, you can crash dive really fast in the Type II.

[Snestorm]

I love the IID. One of my favorite things about it is the short patrol times. With the bigger VII and IX you are out on the water longer, and I dont mind long patrols but I have learned that the longer the patrol is, the harder it is to manage your crew, specifically the Officers. The only thing I dont like is the lack of deck gun, but then again the sea is usually too rough to use it. I never keep the flak gun on my boat for the same reason. Its pretty useless anyway, you can crash dive really fast in the Type II.

Hi, and welcome.

The IID can be a fun boat, and, it is capable of fairly long patrols.
At least one made a round trip patrol fome France to Island.

[ShadowOps]

Hi, and welcome.

The IID can be a fun boat, and, it is capable of fairly long patrols.
At least one made a round trip patrol fome France to Island.

I know, I have traveled from Kiel to the Whaling Station north of Scapa Flow in GWX 3.0 and traveled to the island north of Norway and still had enough to get back to Kiel.

[ryanglavin]

I am proud to say I am part of this club.

My 2 favorite subs are the IID and my Preggo sea cow (IXD2).

I use either when I'm bored (IXD2) or need a quick fix (IID)

[Sgt_Raa]

France to ""Island"".
lol dont u mean ireland?.... lol:rock:

[Snestorm]

lol Thats a local address dude...

Taught me.
I thought a saved Firefox document would return you to the same internet page.
Wrong!

This is where it WAS.
uboat.net
U-143
Patrol starting 19.APR.41

(Sorry for the dead end "link").

[Sgt_Raa]

Taught me.
I thought a saved Firefox document would return you to the same internet page.
Wrong!

This is where it WAS.
uboat.net
U-143
Patrol starting 19.APR.41

(Sorry for the dead end "link").
if you save a firefox .doc it will hard save it to your hdd.... just so you know for future reference.:salute: