[REL] Improved Underwater Visibility Stage 2...

[Redwine]

Made on V1.2 stock files, includes two versions, 30 meters, and 60 meters.
Stock is 18 meters.

http://hosted.filefront.com/Redwine

[GoldenEagle8]

I've heard this improves under water frame rates, is this true?

[BBury]

Thank you Redwine.

[Redwine]

I've heard this improves under water frame rates, is this true?
I think so not... those are the Hartmann tweaks wich removes plancton, rocks, plants, and fog.

Thank you Redwine.
:up: You are wellcome.

[flyingdane]

Excellent work thank you very much. :yep:

[U56_Dragon]

Thanks, very nice.
Dragon

[Hartmann]

Where can i download the hitman mod ?? :hmm:

now I am looking for remove the little crew like ants on the decks of big japanese and us warships like if it was a passenger liner.

I can live without this because are very difficult to see in the reality through the scope, also could be dangerous stay outside during a big gun combat .

[Redwine]

Where can i download the hitman mod ?? :hmm:

now I am looking for remove the little crew like ants on the decks of big japanese and us warships like if it was a passenger liner.

I can live without this because are very difficult to see in the reality through the scope, also could be dangerous stay outside during a big gun combat .

I think so he dont made a mod, he wrote instruction about how to do it erasing or renaming some files. But not remember where.....

[Redwine]

Where can i download the hitman mod ?? :hmm:

now I am looking for remove the little crew like ants on the decks of big japanese and us warships like if it was a passenger liner.

I can live without this because are very difficult to see in the reality through the scope, also could be dangerous stay outside during a big gun combat .

Sorry Hartman, y wote above by recall, i confuse Hartmann by Hitman... :oops:

My memory failed. :oops:

I fixed the mistake above... sorry.

[Hartmann]

Where can i download the hitman mod ?? :hmm:

now I am looking for remove the little crew like ants on the decks of big japanese and us warships like if it was a passenger liner.

I can live without this because are very difficult to see in the reality through the scope, also could be dangerous stay outside during a big gun combat .

Sorry Hartman, y wote above by recall, i confuse Hartmann by Hitman... :oops:

My memory failed. :oops:

I fixed the mistake above... sorry.

Don´t worry about this Redwine :up: :rotfl:

[Redwine]

Don´t worry about this Redwine :up: :rotfl:

So sorry ! :up:

[MONOLITH]

Regarding this mod...

The big advantage the 30M has over the 60M, is the 'draw in' problem. With the clearer 60m, you can se the rock and plant objects magically appear which is a major problem (read...'immersion killer').

The 30m seems just about right to conceal the draw in.

Has anyone found the file that controls the draw in distance so that it could be increased to accommodate the 60m version?

Please and Thank you.

[Mav87th]

Great mod :up:

Redwine would you please write what value you have made changes to so i can change them my self on my modded Scene.dat file.

[Redwine]

Sorry for no ask before, returning home yet now from a travel from europe...

Let me to rest a little bit and will be right here... :up:

[Redwine]

Has anyone found the file that controls the draw in distance so that it could be increased to accommodate the 60m version?

Please and Thank you.

May be the LOD factor ?

It works on surface objects, may be the same factor controls the underwater objects.... :up:

[Redwine]

Great mod :up:

Redwine would you please write what value you have made changes to so i can change them my self on my modded Scene.dat file.
Here the readme to edit SH III file, i used to edit SH IV too....

Recover of good underwater visibility, to back it to stock setting or to improve it beyond this point.
Open the file scene.dat with an Hexagecimal Editor and modify the following lines



1]
Valor Original/ Original Value : (-4)
0003C8 6F 67 00 00 00 80 C0 00 @@....Fog....A.

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater Visibility : (-3)
0003C8 6F 67 00 00 00 40 C0 00 @@....Fog...@A.

2]
Valor Original/ Original value : (18)
0003C8 6F 67 00 00 00 80 C0 00 00 90 41 00 ..A.PF<....UpLight

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater Visibility : (21)
0003C8 6F 67 00 00 00 40 C0 00 00 A8 41 00 ..¨.PF<....UpLight

3]
for improved underwater visibility set Original value :
Valor Original/ Original Value : (120)
0019de 44 69 73 74 61 6e 63 65 00 00 00 f0 42 MinDistance…öB

4]
Valor Original/Original Value : (180)
0019f4 73 74 61 6e 63 65 00 00 00 34 43 MaxDistance…4C

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater : (300)
0019f4 73 74 61 6e 63 65 00 00 00 96 43 MaxDistance….C




You can play with the values at your pleasure, you need a Hexadecimal converter

Hexagesimal to Decimal/ Decimal to hexagesimal

and a Hexeditor....

If you need them, ask me, i can upload them for you.

:up::up::up:

[Julius Caesar]

I have been trying to mod it as you have described but data seems to be different... :hmm:

[Redwine]

I have been trying to mod it as you have described but data seems to be different... :hmm:
Yes... that is the data to mod SH III....

But basically it is the same for SH4.... the blue numbers may be diferent, and many more, but you must to search the file for the text.... and numbers.... (use Hexeditor search engine)

In example.... from (-3) to (-4)

00 00 80 C0 00 @@....Fog....A.

to

00 00 40 C0 00 @@....Fog...@A.


Or in example... from (18 m) to (21 m) .....

00 00 90 41 00 ..A.PF<....UpLight

to

00 00 A8 41 00 ..¨.PF<....UpLight

You can use the value you want... 21, 30, 40...

(remember to input the numbers in inverse order into the hexadecimal converters...)

In example... 21.... is .... 41 a8 00 00

Do not worry to still asking if you need more help... you are welcome ! :up:

[Mav87th]

Well the Mini Tweeker makes it a tad more easy.....:hmm:

Thanks for the values Redwine

[Julius Caesar]

O.K. I have found the diffs:
orig:
80 C0 00 00 90 41

30m mod:
40 C0 00 00 F0 41

60m mod:
40 C0 00 00 70 42

[Redwine]

Well the Mini Tweeker makes it a tad more easy.....:hmm:

Thanks for the values Redwine
Sadly the SH III Minitweaker template for Scene.dat doesnt works, and the template i have for SH IV has not all the values above... only the -3 value is present.

May be you have a new or another template version ? :hmm:

I use the Hexeditor method we had used in times when Minitweaker was not abilable...

[Redwine]

O.K. I have found the diffs:
orig:
80 C0 00 00 90 41

30m mod:
40 C0 00 00 F0 41

60m mod:
40 C0 00 00 70 42

Yes... as Mav87th wrote, it is a little bit more easy using MiniTweaker, but i have not the correct template, but may be it there around...

I use the original SH III method, (Hexeditor) when MiniTweaker was not developed yet....

[Viliotti]

Nice one dude, thanks! :smug:

[Redwine]

Nice one dude, thanks! :smug:

Many thanks ! :up:

[robbierob2005]

Well the Mini Tweeker makes it a tad more easy.....:hmm:

Thanks for the values Redwine
Sadly the SH III Minitweaker template for Scene.dat doesnt works, and the template i have for SH IV has not all the values above... only the -3 value is present.

May be you have a new or another template version ? :hmm:

I use the Hexeditor method we had used in times when Minitweaker was not abilable...
Try this versio of the scene.dat tweakefile. I added the underwater "fog-start" and "fog-end" values in this tweakfile.
http://files.filefront.com/Scene_datzip/;7434458;/fileinfo.html

Are there more values missing? perhaps I can add them to the file.

[Redwine]

Well the Mini Tweeker makes it a tad more easy.....:hmm:

Thanks for the values Redwine
Sadly the SH III Minitweaker template for Scene.dat doesnt works, and the template i have for SH IV has not all the values above... only the -3 value is present.

May be you have a new or another template version ? :hmm:

I use the Hexeditor method we had used in times when Minitweaker was not abilable...
Try this versio of the scene.dat tweakefile. I added the underwater "fog-start" and "fog-end" values in this tweakfile.
http://files.filefront.com/Scene_datzip/;7434458;/fileinfo.html

Are there more values missing? perhaps I can add them to the file.

Many thanks Robbie... i will download it :up::up::up:

[CaptainHaplo]

Redwine,

You've done it again mate! Excellent work! :up: :rock: Let me add my thanks to those already listed.

[Excalibur Bane]

Any chance this will be updated for 1.3? I tried it on 1.3 already, no go. :(

[Redwine]

Any chance this will be updated for 1.3? I tried it on 1.3 already, no go. :(
Patch v1.3 did not touched the scene.dat file. It is a remain from older patchs (v1.1 or v1.2).

Just reinstall the mod, it must to works fine.

[Excalibur Bane]

Any chance this will be updated for 1.3? I tried it on 1.3 already, no go. :(
Patch v1.3 did not touched the scene.dat file. It is a remain from older patchs (v1.1 or v1.2).

Just reinstall the mod, it must to works fine.

Oops. Yup, it works. My bad. Forgot it came in two seperate folders. Ended up with 60m and 30m in my main SH4 folder. :oops:

[Redwine]

Any chance this will be updated for 1.3? I tried it on 1.3 already, no go. :(
Patch v1.3 did not touched the scene.dat file. It is a remain from older patchs (v1.1 or v1.2).

Just reinstall the mod, it must to works fine.
Oops. Yup, it works. My bad. Forgot it came in two seperate folders. Ended up with 60m and 30m in my main SH4 folder. :oops:

Dont worry... you are welcome ! :up::up::up:

[Excalibur Bane]

This is one of the few mods that I do actually use from around here, it's very handy and kudos to you for this one! :rock:

Not much point in having all this juicy eyecandy if you can't see squat from 15 meters away!

[CaptainKobuk]

Not much point in having all this juicy eyecandy if you can't see squat from 15 meters away!
Filefront links at the moment gives an error message. Can't access files.

EDIT: linked worked - got that file - runs good on game - thanks

Here's what i'd like to see. A new scene.dat file that extends the underwater view range properly to 60 feet. Plus. No green plankton everywhere. Both are just minor preferances a lot of us can use to just get that bit more enjoyment out of the game.

I use the smaller weeds and rocks MOD. We have to have some bottom details or else everything would be barren.

[Redwine]

Not much point in having all this juicy eyecandy if you can't see squat from 15 meters away!
Filefront links at the moment gives an error message. Can't access files.

EDIT: linked worked - got that file - runs good on game - thanks
Yes... correct, link works, almost now. :up:

Here's what i'd like to see. A new scene.dat file that extends the underwater view range properly to 60 feet. Plus. No green plankton everywhere. Both are just minor preferances a lot of us can use to just get that bit more enjoyment out of the game.
There was a way to remove them, without to touch the scene.cfg file.

Let me see into my stores.

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by Hartmann

See this

To eliminates... remove, rename or move to another folder the following files :

placton:
@@@@@@@@

Data\Misc\impurity.dds


Water distortion:
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Data\Misc\turbulence.dds

and

underwater_disp_map.dds


Underwater Plants and rocks:
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Data\Library\undersea.dat

and

vegetation_kit.dat

[CaptainKobuk]

Filefront is being a fricking dud. Can't get at "improved underwater visibility 2". :damn:

I suggest all MODDERS put their SH4 1.3 compatible files on at least two seperate file server websites.

It really is a :damn: to have to be stopped from putting together a set of MODS just because one file server is down.

...thanks :|\\

[Redwine]

Filefront is being a fricking dud. Can't get at "improved underwater visibility 2". :damn:

I suggest all MODDERS put their SH4 1.3 compatible files on at least two seperate file server websites.

It really is a :damn: to have to be stopped from putting together a set of MODS just because one file server is down.

...thanks :|\\

I try it and dowload link works fine, almost now, try again... or...

Here you have a manual editing guide... i reccomend to you to merge it with the Living Seas Mod from leoVampire...

I will update a new Stage 3 v1.3 ready soon.

Abrir el archivo Scene.dat con un editor hexagecimal, y modificar lo siguiente :

Open the Scene.dat file using a hexadecimal editor and modify the following :


1]
Valor Original/ Original Value : (-4)
0003da 6F 67 00 00 00 80 C0 00 @@....Fog....A.

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater Visibility : (-3)
0003da 6F 67 00 00 00 40 C0 00 @@....Fog...@A.


2]
Valor Original/ Original value : (18)
0003da 6F 67 00 00 00 80 C0 00 00 90 41 00 ..A.PF<....UpLight

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater Visibility : (30 m)
0003da 6F 67 00 00 00 40 C0 00 00 f0 41 00

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater Visibility : (60 m)
0003da 6F 67 00 00 00 40 C0 00 00 70 42

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater Visibility : (70 m)
0003da 6F 67 00 00 00 40 C0 00 00 8c 42

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater Visibility : (100 m)
0003da 6F 67 00 00 00 40 C0 00 00 c8 42


3]
Valor Original/ Original Value : (120 m)
001b6a 00 00 f0 42 ..öB



4]
Valor Original/Original Value : (180 m)
001b6a 73 74 61 6e 63 65 00 00 00 34 43 MaxDistance…4C

Valor Visibilidad Bajo el Agua Mejorada/ Improved Underwater : (300 m)
001b6a 73 74 61 6e 63 65 00 00 00 96 43 MaxDistance….C

[wovik]

:up:
Thank you for the manual entry data. I wanted to use your mod but it conflicted with others. I added this and leovampire's Living Breathing Ocean to the modded scene.dat file. Now to give it a test run.

[Ishigami]

I was looking for mod to get rid of the placton, rocks and plants.



See this

To eliminates... remove, rename or move to another folder the following files :

placton:
@@@@@@@@

Data\Misc\impurity.dds


Water distortion:
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Data\Misc\turbulence.dds

and

underwater_disp_map.dds


Underwater Plants and rocks:
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Data\Library\undersea.dat

and

vegetation_kit.dat

I tried to remove the placton, rocks and plant but keep the distortion.
If I delet/rename/move these files the water is not transparent anymore. It creates a bug and visibilty under water is 0.
I tried it with a stock SH4 v1.4.

Someone can help me with this or is there another mod for this?

[Balladeer]

Could someone update the link or upload the file to Subsim? I'd really like to try the mod without having to manually use a hex editor.