PDA

View Full Version : Jap sub.


jadd50
04-13-07, 10:38 AM
Is any one planing to make Jap. subs. for sh4? It wood be nice to have sub hunting sub. And I like to add I dont like the damage screen of sh4.I like the damage screen of sh3.I like the break down inside view of side, and wish for top view as well. Sorry guys, I like a lot of eye candy for my sub. It is a wish to me, It what makes the game fun to play.And what happen to the fire gage?

AG124
04-13-07, 11:41 AM
There are already two Japanese subs in SHIV - a midget sub and the I-400 (Sen-Toku) classes.

Actually, the main issue is developing correct AI behaviour; firing torpedoes, diving, surfacing, etc. As far as I know, no one has accomplished this yet (I'm pretty sure the AI routines are hardcoded both in SHIII and SHIV). Someone could still make an AI sub models which would travel on the surface as a regular surface ship though, or even at a submerged depth (this has been done in SHIII, often by Sergbuto). It's not quite the same though, (but their efforts are still greatly appreciated).

tater
04-13-07, 12:31 PM
Aircraft torpedos work in SH4 (no idea bout SH3, I don't have it), I tested them. Dunno if you can add them to ships though.

jmjohnson36
04-13-07, 05:03 PM
Hmmm you can add any weapons system to any vessel...however Im not sure how the torps would work...I add different weapons and torps to different things all the time in Sh4 to see the modding ability of certain ships. I had 16in guns on a transport...eh worked...but not the way i WANTED...:o

tater
04-13-07, 05:20 PM
Well, the TTs that go on ships are the launchers (missing the IJN triple mount). If you put an air torpedo on a DD, would it just sit on the deck? Dunno how that would work.

If it did, I guess you'd clone the air torpedo, and change the clone into a type93 "long lance"

Of course the engagement range for ships would need to be increased.

tater

bigboywooly
04-13-07, 05:24 PM
Theres a lot more to adding torps to ships than that i'm afraid

Still ongoing in SH3 and the process and alterations arent quick
May not ever be sorted over there for ships though aircraft look promising

Of course you have the air drop torps in 4 so that may help speed things along

jadd50
04-14-07, 08:40 PM
Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571. And if some one planing to make modern nuk subs.and torpedos? sorry for all the questions but I am new to this game I have both sh3 and sh4 for only a few weeks now.:D

LukeFF
04-14-07, 08:47 PM
Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.

No comment.

nimitstexan
04-14-07, 08:52 PM
Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571. And if some one planing to make modern nuk subs.and torpedos? sorry for all the questions but I am new to this game I have both sh3 and sh4 for only a few weeks now.:D

Yes, the hydrophone (passive SONAR) would be able pick up sound of torpedos, and their aproximate bearing.

However, the movie U-571 is not the best source for real WWII sub operations or capabilities.

Sulikate
04-14-07, 09:51 PM
Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.
No comment.
:rotfl::rotfl:

ps: Das Boot ftw:rock:

jadd50
04-16-07, 04:09 AM
What places can you find infro. on sub. ops? All this is new to me.
My profisson was a machinest. Retiered do to medical reson. So bear
with me on dum questons. About the reality of the game. I do like realisic
games. The cloest ship I ever been to is U-505 one fine piece of a machine.

joea
04-16-07, 05:00 AM
Hmmm, SH2 and DC had AI subs that ran on the surface, dove, and fired torpedoes. Even raised their scopes. Surface ships and planes used torpedoes too. :hmm: Sure SH3 and 4 are different engines but why this AI capability was not added, even in the form used in SH2/DC (graphics aside) is a mystery to me.

jadd50
04-16-07, 03:38 PM
I wonder if thay well come out with DC to match sh3 and sh4?:hmm:

shad43
04-16-07, 03:41 PM
Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.
No comment. :rotfl::rotfl:

ps: Das Boot ftw:rock:

Geez why does everyone hate this movie, I kinda liked it :D

Sulikate
04-16-07, 03:44 PM
Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.
No comment. :rotfl::rotfl:

ps: Das Boot ftw:rock:
Geez why does everyone hate this movie, I kinda liked it :D
No comment.


:lol:

shad43
04-16-07, 03:48 PM
Is this posable that sonar in this game can pick up torpedos in coming bearing
and range from another sub? I seen this on dvd U-571.
No comment. :rotfl::rotfl:

ps: Das Boot ftw:rock:
Geez why does everyone hate this movie, I kinda liked it :D No comment.


:lol:

Ok Im not an idiot who thinks hollywood movies are historical representations of fact...but it was great fun watching bon jovi get blown off the deck by that steel plate :rotfl:

jadd50
04-17-07, 04:35 AM
I will reframe any more questions ,and will not keep a membership to a bunch
of jokers ,that think my questions are so funny. is this the way you treat new
comers who ask honst questions of sub ops in relationship to a game? to the op.
of this forum my wish to cancel my membership. :down:

joea
04-17-07, 05:42 AM
I will reframe any more questions ,and will not keep a membership to a bunch
of jokers ,that think my questions are so funny. is this the way you treat new
comers who ask honst questions of sub ops in relationship to a game? to the op.
of this forum my wish to cancel my membership. :down:

No need to overreact, my post was not making fun of you for example! :confused: A couple of comments were made because U-571 is considered to be a trash film by this community, and not a good source for historical accuracy. Anyway, no it was not possible to get range and bearing (well bearing maybe) for a torpedo in WWII like can be done today. What fire gauge are you talking about btw?

jadd50
04-17-07, 10:43 AM
My apologys it was a bad day for me. Its just hard to find out what real and not real. Of sub ops. My Grand dad was a Navy man in WW2, And pass a way many years ago. He wood not talk about anything about the navy or what hes job was .
all I know it was with Japan, And as for the fire gage. That simulat on board fires. I seen it on sh2 of a friend some time ago .It seems to me it wood kill every one under water fast, After seeing a real sub. U-505 in side. And on the new parascope
why did thay leave out the compus marks? Dont get me wrong I like the new scope.
:)