[REL] Ship Conversions SH3 merchants to SH4, Beta Release

[jmjohnson36]

THE RELEASE OF THE MERCHANT POWER PACK V0.1

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8428/clipimage002nt1.jpg
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BOATS ADDED:
AMM=Pyro Ammunition Freighter
CHT=Small Troop Transport
NCOT=Coastal Tanker
NCVW=Converted Whale Factory Ship
NECT=Flush-Decked Tanker
FishingBoat1=Coastal Trader
C3Cargo=C3 Cargo
NKSA=Coastal Freighter
NKSB=Small Freighter
NKCA=Small Passenger/Cargo
NKLS=C2 Cargo
OTMST2=T2 Tanker
NOTSF=Patapsco Tanker
NPPL=Large Passenger Liner
CVIllustrious=Illustrious Carrier
DDCClass=C&D Class Destroyer
DDJClass=J&K Class Destroyer
NPTR=Heavy Transport
NKGN=Large Freighter

Added countries: Greece, Romania, Italy, Brasil, Sweden Norway, Poland and SouthAfrica

- All hex editing completed by jmjohnson.
- All .cfg changes and file structures by AG124.

- AMM, CHT, COT, CVW, ECT, KCA by AG124, with UV Mapping by Ref, deck textures by Boris, and GWX damage models by Von Helsching.
- C3 – multiskin .dat by Sergbuto.
- NPTR and NKGN by Sergbuto.
- J class DD, C/D class DD, Illustrious CV, Coastal Trader – multiskin .dat by UBOAT234.


*************Corrected the SouthAfrica flag issue

[jmjohnson36]

In the next release I will have the ID book ready for this...

[Boris]

waiting on info from UBISOFT

God I hope they say yes. Is this just stock ships or modded ones too?

[AG124]

@ Boris - It contains most of my kitbashed ships, with the exception of the Belize (too much like the Coastal Merchant), the Rose Castle, and the Proteus (neither of them have been UV Mapped). It also does not contain the Lightship (lighted by Anvart for me) or either of the two cruisers I built in GWX with Ref.

In addition to these, it contains the two original cloned merchants from Sergbuto (I got permission from him first and credited him for them). The rest of the ships were stock though.

[jmjohnson36]

Well looks like modded ones from AG124...Im just converting the files.



waiting on info from UBISOFT

God I hope they say yes. Is this just stock ships or modded ones too?

[jmjohnson36]

this was installed on a clean copy and works fine...might have issues if you install the newer ID book...but not sure...

[tater]

I got a single error loading up the mission editor. It said:

The unit class NCOT from country Japan not found in the platforms library

[tater]

made a quick mission with new ships, got CTD on loading. Yep, every time, ctd

[clayton]

Are these ships for mission development or will they be cruising the ocean?

[tater]

OK, the NCOT.cfg file has the class name as just COT. I changed it to NCOT, and the mission editor stopped giving the error. will load up game and see if that fixes it.

[jmjohnson36]

changing it in the download as we speak

OK, the NCOT.cfg file has the class name as just COT. I changed it to NCOT, and the mission editor stopped giving the error. will load up game and see if that fixes it.

[jmjohnson36]

Hmmm they should be ready for both...this is Ag124 department more than mine.

Are these ships for mission development or will they be cruising the ocean?

[jmjohnson36]

let me know how its going now...

OK, the NCOT.cfg file has the class name as just COT. I changed it to NCOT, and the mission editor stopped giving the error. will load up game and see if that fixes it.

[tater]

Changing the class to NCOT fixed all the problems.

[Boris]

Are these ships for mission development or will they be cruising the ocean?

That depends on the number of generic entries in the camapaign files. Not sure how much in the SH4 campaign is generic offhand, but there should be some. At very least the merchants should spawn as single contacts.

[CaptainKobuk]

Great. Fantastic.

I hear these will be on the ocean in a campaign. If so, that will sure add some VARIETY.

Maybe we can sink some Kraut ships over in the eastern area. Excuse being, they were in the Indian Ocean. We know that. And maybe we can have a few Nazi tankers loading up on the IndoChina Southeast Asia oil. Optional for those of us who can play a hypothetical game.


Maybe the SH4 game engine can't deal with any more enemy nations than the Japs. I don't know. Though i hear Thailand was on the Japanese side of the war.

[Dustyboats]

Are these ships for mission development or will they be cruising the ocean?

Bless you my son......Dusty.

[rascal101]

Hi to all, and thanks to the moders who have made this possible.

Will the ships in this mod have the same damage profiles as the native SH4 ships, will they smoke and explode the same, will they exhibit 3d damage.

Will these ships skins look like the native Sh4 ship skins, or will they look like sh3 skins sticking out in sh4, will they exhibit the same lighting and environmental characteristics as native sh4 ships

[Redwine]

Many Thanks !! :up:

But... are you sure they will be automatically included into the campaign as random units ?

Or are they ready only to use into single mission up to the campaing files be modified ?

Best regards, Red.

[tater]

Are these ships for mission development or will they be cruising the ocean?

That depends on the number of generic entries in the camapaign files. Not sure how much in the SH4 campaign is generic offhand, but there should be some. At very least the merchants should spawn as single contacts.

Almost every merchant ship is generic in SH4. I'd wager way over 90%.

The one liner that is white on top totally disappears against the sky right now, other than that they seem to look pretty much like other SH4 ships to me.

[akdavis]

Aren't there some new graphic effects for objects in SH4? Do these take advantage of those new effects?

[Meridian]

Just a quick question regarding the following line from the Readme: "add the following lines to your English.cfg file, located in the roster folder".

There isn't an "English.cfg in SH4, unless mine disappeared somewhere.

[jmjohnson36]

:up: I was use to Sh3 ...should have corrected that....Im working on a few things to enhance the ships...PEOPLE...I am working on version 2.0 now....

I really think the guys who made the ships should get most of the credit..I just converted them...although that takes time...we wouldnt have these ships at all without them.

Just a quick question regarding the following line from the Readme: "add the following lines to your English.cfg file, located in the roster folder".

There isn't an "English.cfg in SH4, unless mine disappeared somewhere.

[AG124]

On the subject of whether or not the ships will show up in the campaign, there are generic entries for the following nations:

Japan - Any of the new merchants installed for Japan should appear, except for Troop Transports; there don't appear to be any generic 103 entries for Japan.

US - Generic entries for both tankers and freighters. I can't find any generic Troop Transport entries though.

Other nations - no generic entries of any type.

To sum it up, Oil Tankers (type 101) and Freighters (type 102) installed for Japan and the US will show up in the campaign, but none of the other vessels will (unless users script them in themselves or make some appropriate entries generic).

[jmjohnson36]

OK so what do I need to do to get them to show up? point me int the right direction mate...:hmm:

On the subject of whether or not the ships will show up in the campaign, there are generic entries for the following nations:

Japan - Any of the new merchants installed for Japan should appear, except for Troop Transports; there don't appear to be any generic 103 entries for Japan.

US - Generic entries for both tankers and freighters. I can't find any generic Troop Transport entries though.

Other nations - no generic entries of any type.

To sum it up, Oil Tankers (type 101) and Freighters (type 102) installed for Japan and the US will show up in the campaign, but none of the other vessels will (unless users script them in themselves or make some appropriate entries generic).

[Boris]

You need to use the mission editor to change the ships in the campaign layers.

I did this once, using the text editor on the campaign files, just changing out the values, for SH3.
I'm not exactly sure how, I'm pretty sure it's the SCR layer that controls ship traffic in SH3, but it looks completely different in SH4.

[jmjohnson36]

eh.....sounds way over my head...maybe someone can do this.:shifty:

You need to use the mission editor to change the ships in the campaign layers.

I did this once, using the text editor on the campaign files, just changing out the values, for SH3.
I'm not exactly sure how, I'm pretty sure it's the SCR layer that controls ship traffic in SH3, but it looks completely different in SH4.

[AG124]

Making entries generic using a word processor so that they will spawn different types of ships is easy in itself - I will explain some of it later (I have to study right now). The hard part in this case (at least as far as I can see) is determining which of the many campaign files will support generic entries. In SHIII, the random layer would easily do so, while the scripted layer would crash unless a class name was specified.:shifty: In SHIV, the only campaign file type which can definitely (as far as I know) support generic entries is the 'merchant' type - these already have lots of those entries, except for the "other nations" ones.

I'll give you a quick lesson. Open one of the campaign files (I always use WordPad) and find an entry like class=KSQ. Put a semi-colon in front of the line, so it looks like ;class=KSQ. Now, instead of choosing the Split-Superstructure freighter (or whatever KSQ is in SHIV - I don't remember right now), the game will choose one of any of the type 102 (Cargo) vessels assigned to whatever nation the entry is for. That's pretty much the basics of it. Make sure you make a backup file of course. Also, using the find and replace options of whatever program you choose to edit the files can make things go faster.:cool:

Adding entirely new entries and new traffic for other nations is trickier - I'll let someone else explain that.:88)

[tater]

Sergbuto's steamer:
http://usx218.fysik.uu.se/users/Sergei/files/TransportSteamer.jpg

would be cool, they used stuff like that along the China coast...

[down and out]

Sergbuto's steamer:
http://usx218.fysik.uu.se/users/Sergei/files/TransportSteamer.jpg

would be cool, they used stuff like that along the China coast...

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/i03000/i03917.jpg

:hmm:

[jmjohnson36]

I have another patch of ships coming out...if you post a link and get his ok I will include it :cool:

[Redwine]

Sorry ... it is posible there is an typewrite error into the readme ?

The readme says the names must be added to english.cfg into the Roster folder...

May be they must be added into names.cfg ?

Many thanks for job ... :up::up:

[AG124]

Yes, it's actually names.cfg.:yep:

[Redwine]

Yes, it's actually names.cfg.:yep:

Thanks... i will rewrite the readme to change it :up::up::up:

[jmjohnson36]

forgot to change that...was on other details something like that slipped by....:-?

Yes, it's actually names.cfg.:yep:

Thanks... i will rewrite the readme to change it :up::up::up:

[tater]

I also have been getting an error that says that a south african flag is not able to be found in the menu folder?

Is that related to this at all?

tater

[Grim_Death]

I also have been getting an error that says that a south african flag is not able to be found in the menu folder?

Is that related to this at all?

tater

I get theis error too, twice, then it loads.

[jmjohnson36]

goto C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Roster

and rename the folder South Africa to SouthAfrica

sorry will repost the correction tommorrow..

I also have been getting an error that says that a south african flag is not able to be found in the menu folder?

Is that related to this at all?

tater

I get theis error too, twice, then it loads.

[Grim_Death]

Thanks!

[jmjohnson36]

corrected the southafrica file issue

[Redwine]

Hi Jmjohnson36...

Installed the mod... but when attempt to run the game, it hang up at final load up screen, when it says "Please wait....."

Doing Ctrl + Alt + Del i go to the desktop, and found many error messages, about 4.

like this...

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2940/20070415212625sm2.jpg


There are two similar to this one, and another two similar but refering to SouthAfrica....

After close the four or five windws like this, back to the game and it finish to load up....

Any idea what is CovFlag01 Bak Merchants Pack ?

[jmjohnson36]

I never saw this before...the south africa issue was because I left a space between south africa....should have looked like this>>> southafrica

now as for your issue

Hi Jmjohnson36...

Installed the mod... but when attempt to run the game, it hang up at final load up screen, when it says "Please wait....."

Doing Ctrl + Alt + Del i go to the desktop, and found many error messages, about 4.

like this...what version of SH4 do you have? because the merchants have always have this covmerchant.dds file

look at C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Menu\Gui\RecManual and see if you have these files below:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7301/clipimage002wt2.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2940/20070415212625sm2.jpg


There are two similar to this one, and another two similar but refering to SouthAfrica....

After close the four or five windws like this, back to the game and it finish to load up....

Any idea what is CovFlag01 Bak Merchants Pack ?

[Redwine]

I never saw this before...the south africa issue was because I left a space between south africa....should have looked like this>>> southafrica

now as for your issue

what version of SH4 do you have? because the merchants have always have this covmerchant.dds file

look at C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Menu\Gui\RecManual and see if you have these files below:
Discovered ... the problem was i created a folder called "01 Bak Merchants Pack" and put inside the stock file "names.cfg".

Then the program assume the folder "01 Bak Merchants Pack" is a country and claims for its flag... :damn:

Many thanks for help ! :up:

[tater]

BTW, if I wish to remove a certain ship from a given country, what do I have to do, remove the ship_type.cfg under the countries roster, or is there also a master list for each country someplace?

[jmjohnson36]

goto the data/roster/sea/ {NATION} pick a ships you want to remove and delete...if you dont want a certain nation just delete that whole folder...

hope that helps

[tater]

Helps a lot, thanks!

Some of the new ships while really cool have nothing even close in the real japanese merchant marine, so i might expunge them from that traffic.

[Sunpig]

The texture of the hit ship twinkles and flickers. That always happens at imported sh3 ships. This only happens if the ship is met. Who knows advice?

[Anvart]

The texture of the hit ship twinkles and flickers. That always happens at imported sh3 ships. This only happens if the ship is met. Who knows advice?
Because SH3 ships have crack models...?

[jmjohnson36]

Germany ships can be added to game rather easily now I see, however will take a few to get the set up ready as not to CTD with 1.2

Great. Fantastic.

I hear these will be on the ocean in a campaign. If so, that will sure add some VARIETY.

Maybe we can sink some Kraut ships over in the eastern area. Excuse being, they were in the Indian Ocean. We know that. And maybe we can have a few Nazi tankers loading up on the IndoChina Southeast Asia oil. Optional for those of us who can play a hypothetical game.


Maybe the SH4 game engine can't deal with any more enemy nations than the Japs. I don't know. Though i hear Thailand was on the Japanese side of the war.

[Stew U-582]

I am interested in trying your mod Merchant Power Pack V1 but I used the link and found mutiple files. Am I missing something or does one download all the seperate files and install seperatly ?

[7Enigma]

I am interested in trying your mod Merchant Power Pack V1 but I used the link and found mutiple files. Am I missing something or does one download all the seperate files and install seperatly ?

It's the one listed as ships1.0.7.z (22.27Mb). I think the modder should rename it so its easier to find (I just guessed and assumed it would be the largest of the mods size-wise).

[jmjohnson36]

I suppose you have a point there....when Im done updating the Merchant power pack I will post the same name...sorry for the confusion.:hmm:

I am interested in trying your mod Merchant Power Pack V1 but I used the link and found mutiple files. Am I missing something or does one download all the seperate files and install seperatly ?

It's the one listed as ships1.0.7.z (22.27Mb). I think the modder should rename it so its easier to find (I just guessed and assumed it would be the largest of the mods size-wise).

[Stew U-582]

Thanks for the info , ill give it a try

[7Enigma]

I suppose you have a point there....when Im done updating the Merchant power pack I will post the same name...sorry for the confusion.:hmm:

I am interested in trying your mod Merchant Power Pack V1 but I used the link and found mutiple files. Am I missing something or does one download all the seperate files and install seperatly ?
It's the one listed as ships1.0.7.z (22.27Mb). I think the modder should rename it so its easier to find (I just guessed and assumed it would be the largest of the mods size-wise).

It's very nice btw, however all the damn 4 letter acronym's are confusing the heck out of me. I feel like I'm dyslexic or something when going to the recog. manual! :D

[AG124]

Did you add the names to the Names.cfg file after installing the package? This is not done automatically, as it would mean that the current file would be erased - thus, when new ships are released both for SHIII and SHIV, modders (including me) usually provide the entry for the appropriate .cfg which is then entered manually by the user (using any work-processing program). After this is done, the lettered names shouldn't appear in the game itself anymore - those should only normally be a concern to the program itself and to modders.;)

BTW - They aren't necessarily acronyms, as some of them don't really stand for anything.:88)

[7Enigma]

Did you add the names to the Names.cfg file after installing the package? This is not done automatically, as it would mean that the current file would be erased - thus, when new ships are released both for SHIII and SHIV, modders (including me) usually provide the entry for the appropriate .cfg which is then entered manually by the user (using any work-processing program). After this is done, the lettered names shouldn't appear in the game itself anymore - those should only normally be a concern to the program itself and to modders.;)

BTW - They aren't necessarily acronyms, as some of them don't really stand for anything.:88)

Thanks, I'll have to look into it (just figured this was a JSME install).

[jmjohnson36]

:D any one still using this mod?

[adseal]

:D any one still using this mod?

Hello jm. :)

I still trying... :|

I bought new graphic card. Nvidia gf7600gs (O/C her to GF7600GT - SHIV works with this beautyfully! and fast ;) ) . Previously I used ATI Radeon 9600. I have installed Your mod with hope that new card and resolution will help... and... :( I still have no textures on new ships converted from SHIII. BUT!...

I installed mod with HMS Repulse conversion from SHIII to SHIV copyrighted by Warhunter... and.. it works fine!!! THERE ARE TEXTURES!

I am really disapointed of one issue: i can not install english aircraft carrier Illistrious :(

Anything new what can be a problem with textures?...


Thanks jm for your work and AG124 that is still in here :)


Regards
Ad Seal

[GerritJ9]

The "N" class destroyer which can be found in the "Ship Power Pack 2 Updated" can also be used for the Netherlands, not just Australia, as the Dutch Navy operated two "N" class destroyers from 1942-45: Hr.Ms. "Van Galen (II)" and "Tjerk Hiddesz (II)".