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Crimsonghost99

04-03-07, 10:43 AM

My hopes and dreams of having a new subsim that would work properly were dashed in one fail swoop this morning. Since I have had SH4 I have had constant issues with not CTD's but entire system freezes. I will play the game for approx 5-10 min and the sounds will studder and then the entire system will freeze. The only way out of it is a system reset.

So began my 3 day quest to try and get what promises to be a beautiful sim up and running. Let me start by describing my system. I have a Dual Core 6600 Processor, BFG 8800 GTS vid card and 2048MB Dual Channel RAM. I have tried various driver and BIOS changes and even OS changes to make this game work. Even tried running the game at horrible settings as others have suggested. So, as a last resort I tried calling tech support at Ubisoft. I thought for sure that a company as big and generally well regarded would get me on my way. Well, I was certainly in for a surprise.

After the not so friendly tech support person answered the phone and I rambled a few things from DXDIAG off to him , he informed me, without any further troubleshooting, that my problems were because I am using an Nvidia 8800 GTS which is not a supported video card. He told me that in order to make the game function properly I would need to downgrade to a lesser, supported video card. When I asked why the latest and greatest series of video cards was not supported as it would be with any other developer he stated he did not know. Then here comes the real kicker. When I asked if the video card would be supported in future patches he stated that they have no intention of supporting the 8800 series of cards. And finally, when I asked what my next step should be, his suggestion was to return the game to the store and make sure that in the future I read the system requirements. I can fully understand that new games may not be able to support older video cards, but to ignore new cards is completely unacceptable.

I guess what i am getting at is never before have I ever been so disappointed with a game company. This product is a shamble at best and the combined effect of poor product support and poor product prep has put a very poor taste in my mouth . I hope that one day Ubi and others will realize the error in their ways. If anyone has another idea to try, please feel free because until then this sim will be collecting dust on my shelf, much to my dismay.

Uber Gruber

04-03-07, 10:48 AM

OKay, let me state here and now that I am running SH4 on an BFG NVidia 8800 GTS with no problem whatsoever. My PC is a dual core 6600 with NVidia chipset. I'm running it in 1600 * whatever and i've not experienced any crashes. That said, I have so far only ran all the submarine school training missions and a couple of the supplied missions (battle of midway etc).

I personaly think the guy on the phone hasn't a bloody clue what he is talking about.....but then he works for a facelesss corp so there's no real suprise there.

I would suggest ensuring you have the latest NVidia drivers (Oct or Nov 2006 I think) and keep trying.

mookiemookie

04-03-07, 10:52 AM

Athlon 64 3500+ processor, 2 gigs of memory and I'm running an eVGA nVidia 8800 GTS. It runs like a dream. I'm sorry to hear you're having problems, and for the moron on the phone. I'll echo the "make sure you have the latest drivers" sentiment.

Crimsonghost99

04-03-07, 10:54 AM

I am definately using the newest drivers. I am using the 9792 Drivers dated 12/21/2006. That was the first thing I checked.... :(

AVGWarhawk

04-03-07, 10:58 AM

I find you sentence on sound studdering interesting. Perhaps a soundcard issue? Driver? Acceleration?

SimJack

04-03-07, 11:07 AM

Uber Gruber

04-03-07, 11:08 AM

He's got a point...what soundcard are you using ? I'm using XiFi with no problems. What OS are you using...Vista or XP Pro/Home ? (i'm using XP Pro).

Did you install the DX drivers (9.03c I think) that came on the disk as part of the install ? (I did).

AVGWarhawk

04-03-07, 11:10 AM

JSF

04-03-07, 11:12 AM

I find you sentence on sound studdering interesting. Perhaps a soundcard issue? Driver? Acceleration?

Exactly..!!..High end sound cards can be a drain on the system at times. Cut the sound requirements back so card doesn't have to work as hard and check the drivers.

I have an Audigy card only because it came with the system at purchase. However, since I use head phones I don't need the intense settings as with speakers.

SteamWake

04-03-07, 11:14 AM

Ill bet dollars to doughnuts its an onboard soundcard with obsolete drivers.

Good luck on finding vista certified drivers for that ;)

Just because a particular video card is "not on the list" doesent mean it wont work.

Other things to look into is what processes are you running ? Have you tried running with your virus protection and or a software firewall disabled as a troubleshooting measure ?

This will er should get moved over to the troubleshooting / tech section.

Audie

04-03-07, 11:15 AM

I am also running a non-supported card (Radeon X1900XTX) and for the most part it runs beautifully. I did have some issues last evening with some CTDs.

What I discovered was that these CTDs were more than likely caused by sound issues. At the time I was running TeamSpeak and involved with some pretty heavy chatting, whle at the same time running at 1000+ Time Compression. The sound stuttered, the game locked up, and the game crashed.

I experimented even further by running the "CBS Radio Mod" whilst in heavy TC. It took a bit longer, but eventually the sound stuttered and another CTD ensued.

I was able to replicate these things with some success. To prove this out I rebooted, closed out TeamSpeak, turned off the radio and ran some heavy TC. No more CTDs.

So in summary, I believe that, at least in my case, all of my CTDs are sound related. I run a SB Audigy Gamer w/ the latest drivers. I suggest that you focus on the sound.

I hope this helps :yep:

mookiemookie

04-03-07, 11:15 AM

Could it be the power supply is too small?

AVGWarhawk

04-03-07, 11:16 AM

I would look at soundcard issue at this point.

609_Avatar

04-03-07, 11:20 AM

I agree with the others suspecting the sound card. Simple thing to do is disable the sound completely within game and see if that allows you to play without any issues. If so you've found your culprit. I also run a 8800 GTS with no issues (other than the "A" key CTD) at the moment. Good luck! S!

SimJack

04-03-07, 11:23 AM

E.Hartmann

04-03-07, 11:41 AM

Tough luck. Sounds like you got an idiot tech support guy. I have two 8800 Nvidia and I'm running the latest Nforce drivers as well. I am using them in SLI mode with all settings maxed.

When I got screen freezes in SH3 it was do to a fractured HD and and a bunch of DLL stray in my registory and I removed all theh mods, ran defrag, ran chkdsk /f, and then my registery cleaner. I then installed the MODS again to SH3 and never had a freeze again.

As for SH4 I get CTD but that is due to TC and lagg causing memory errors that I hope they fix in a patch coming soon. So when I get close to land, I turn TC off or run it no higher than 512 and I have not had any issues since.

Crimsonghost99

04-03-07, 11:42 AM

Thanks for all the replies. Seems to be a hot topic. Anyhow the sound I am using is the onboard Realtek AC97 sound on my Asus P5N32-SLI Se Deluxe. I had originally suspected sound as well and tried various drivers. The ones that came with the Mobo, new ones from Asus, as well as Realtek. Also, My OS is Windows XP Media Center 2005 fully updated and patched to SP2. I will include the report from DXDIAG and see if someone can see something there that may be causing my problems. Thanks All.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/3/2007, 11:21:44
Machine name: MATT-E8302AF2A3
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.061219-0316)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 03/08/07 21:08:31 Ver: 08.00.12
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Page File: 566MB used, 3376MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042110DE&REV_A2
Display Memory: 640.0 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9792 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 5745536 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 5747488 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42D3-11CF-2E55-2B2403C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0193
SubSys ID: 0x042110DE
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: Realtek AC97 Audio (emulated)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0059&SUBSYS_812A1043&REV_A2
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: Emulated
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
WHQL Logo'd:
Date and Size:
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Emulation Only
Cap Flags: 0x2F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 100000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5900 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 8/19/2005 05:31:52, 3644800 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Realtek AC97 Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Logitech Cordless USB Mouse & Enhanced Keys
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC512
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Logitech Cordless USB Mouse & Enhanced Keys
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC512
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Logitech Cordless USB Mouse & Enhanced Keys
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC512
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: WD HID Interface
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x1058, 0x0903
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x005A
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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+ PCI standard ISA bridge
| Location: PCI bus 0, device 10, function 0
| Matching Device ID: pci\cc_0601
| Service: isapnp
| Driver: isapnp.sys, 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 35840 bytes
|
+-+ Standard Game Port
| | Matching Device ID: *pnpb02f
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 8/3/2004 19:08:22, 10624 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
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+ Logitech HID-Compliant Keyboard
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC512
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c512&mi_00
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:36, 14848 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ Logitech HID-compliant Cordless Mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC512
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c512&mi_01&col01
| Upper Filters: LMouFilt
| Lower Filters: LHidFilt
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 13:48:00, 12160 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes
| Driver: LHidFilt.Sys, 1/23/2007 15:45:00, 34576 bytes
| Driver: LMouFilt.Sys, 1/23/2007 15:45:00, 33296 bytes
| Driver: KHALMNPR.Exe, 1/23/2007 15:44:00, 101136 bytes
| Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 1/23/2007 15:45:00, 1419024 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 369.3 GB
Total Space: 476.9 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD5000KS-00MNB0

Drive: D:
Free Space: 43.6 GB
Total Space: 305.2 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Disk drive

Drive: E:
Model: HP DVD Writer 840x
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 49536 bytes

Drive: F:
Model: SONY DVD RW DRU-820A
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4362&SUBSYS_81421043&REV_22\4&2145A711&0&0038
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\yk51x86.sys, 8.24.0003.0003 (English), 3/30/2005 08:24:00, 230400 bytes

Name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042110DE&REV_A2\4&20C03BEB&0&0010
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 5747488 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 5745536 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 168004 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvhwvid.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 581632 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 274432 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 6500352 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcpl.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 7774208 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmctray.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwddi.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvnt4cpl.dll, 6.14.0010.11068 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 286720 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccs.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 229376 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdisps.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 5623808 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdispsr.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 5246976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvgames.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 3072000 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvgamesr.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 3211264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccss.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccssr.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 458752 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmobls.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 888832 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmoblsr.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 2854912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvvitvs.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 2932736 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvvitvsr.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 3006464 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwss.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 2043904 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwssr.dll, 6.14.0010.9792 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 2465792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpl.hlp, 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 177897 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcplen.hlp, 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 55444 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcod.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 35840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcodins.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 12/21/2006 11:29:00, 35840 bytes

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00B4&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&04
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007F&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&01
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&38
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&30
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&28
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&20
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&10
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007D&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&0E
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007C&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&0D
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007B&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&0C
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_007A&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&0B
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0079&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&0A
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0078&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&09
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0076&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&08
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0075&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&02
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0071&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_C1\3&267A616A&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_006F&SUBSYS_81891043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&03
Driver: n/a

Name: nForce4 HyperTransport Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005E&SUBSYS_81621043&REV_A4\3&267A616A&0&48
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005D&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3\3&267A616A&0&B8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005D&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3\3&267A616A&0&B0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005D&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A3\3&267A616A&0&A0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005C&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&90
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005B&SUBSYS_81621043&REV_A4\3&267A616A&0&59
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 26624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 20:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 57600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 7168 bytes

Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_005A&SUBSYS_81621043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&58
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 17024 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 20:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 57600 bytes

Name: Realtek AC'97 Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0059&SUBSYS_812A1043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&68
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:44, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:56:58, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:00, 60288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:04, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ALCXWDM.SYS, 5.10.0000.5900 (English), 8/19/2005 05:31:52, 3644800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE, 5.01.0000.0043 (English), 8/17/2005 06:39:58, 90112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ALSNDMGR.CPL, 2.02.0000.0048 (English), 8/17/2005 06:25:20, 18771968 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ALSNDMGR.WAV, 2/5/2002 01:54:58, 141016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RTLCPL.EXE, 1.00.0001.0050 (English), 8/17/2005 06:21:38, 10458112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RTLCPAPI.dll, 1.00.0000.0004 (English), 9/7/2004 02:23:16, 156672 bytes

Name: NVIDIA Network Bus Enumerator
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0057&SUBSYS_81D31043&REV_A3\3&267A616A&0&98
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvnetbus.sys, 1.00.0000.5011 (English), 9/30/2005 00:52:22, 13056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvnrm.sys, 1.00.0000.5011 (English), 9/30/2005 00:52:04, 301312 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvsnpu.sys, 1.00.0000.5011 (English), 9/30/2005 00:51:50, 222464 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\bdco1.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 9/30/2005 00:51:02, 9728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\bdco1ins.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 9/30/2005 00:51:02, 9728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvconrm.dll, 1.00.0000.0033 (English), 9/29/2005 12:24:16, 34304 bytes

Name: NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0055&SUBSYS_81621043&REV_F3\3&267A616A&0&88
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvata.sys, 5.10.2600.0552 (English), 8/18/2005 04:52:06, 93568 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\idecoi.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 8/18/2005 04:52:08, 289792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\idecoins.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 8/18/2005 04:52:08, 289792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVCOI.DLL, 1.00.0000.0029 (English), 8/3/2005 01:52:08, 33280 bytes

Name: NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0054&SUBSYS_81621043&REV_F3\3&267A616A&0&80
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvata.sys, 5.10.2600.0552 (English), 8/18/2005 04:52:06, 93568 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\idecoi.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 8/18/2005 04:52:08, 289792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\idecoins.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 8/18/2005 04:52:08, 289792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVCOI.DLL, 1.00.0000.0029 (English), 8/3/2005 01:52:08, 33280 bytes

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0053&SUBSYS_81621043&REV_F3\3&267A616A&0&78
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 95360 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 3328 bytes

Name: NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0052&SUBSYS_81621043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&51
Driver: n/a

Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0050&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_B1\3&267A616A&0&50
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 35840 bytes

Name: Silicon Image SiI 3132 SATALink Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_3132&SUBSYS_819F1043&REV_01\4&29E3D116&0&0028
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\SI3132.sys, 1.00.0000.0009 (English), 1/19/2005 10:30:52, 67200 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\SiWinAcc.sys, 1.00.0000.0011 (English), 11/1/2004 07:21:32, 10368 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SilSupp.cpl, 3.00.0000.0018 (English), 1/11/2005 06:56:46, 78336 bytes

Name: Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8023&SUBSYS_815B1043&REV_00\4&2411F011&0&5890
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 61056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 61824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 3/15/2006 08:00:00, 60800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 09:46:40, 6400 bytes

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 266240 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 1179648 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 1689088 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 825344 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 590336 bytes
d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 34816 bytes
dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 33040 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 23552 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 30208 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 18432 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 3584 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 3584 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 83456 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 116736 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 53520 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 159232 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 181760 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 68608 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 35328 bytes
gameenum.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 19:08:22 10624 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 1294336 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 19456 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 181760 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 71680 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 104448 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 61440 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 35840 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 105984 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 103424 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 82432 bytes
system.dll: 1.00.3705.6018 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 15:13:08 1179648 bytes
system.dll: 1.01.4322.2032 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 16:12:41 1224704 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 473600 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 5.04.0000.3900 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:23 2676224 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.04.0091.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:23 2846720 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:23 563712 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.06.0168.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:23 567296 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.07.0239.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:23 576000 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.08.0299.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:23 577024 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.09.0376.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:23 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.10.0455.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:23 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.11.0519.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 578560 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.12.0589.0000 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 578560 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 145920 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectInput.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 159232 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectPlay.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 364544 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectSound.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 178176 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 53248 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Diagnostics.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 12800 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 4/1/2007 23:24:24 223232 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 619008 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 1227264 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 2113536 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.02.4131.0000 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 1028096 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 22528 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 70656 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 59904 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.0009.1133 English Final Retail 8/22/2006 04:05:26 498742 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 35328 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.2710.2732 English Final Retail 8/5/2005 13:06:50 165376 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 14336 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 20480 bytes
qasf.dll: 11.00.5721.5145 English Final Retail 10/18/2006 21:47:18 211456 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 192512 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 279040 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2709 English Final Retail 6/28/2005 21:55:07 385024 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 562176 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 733696 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.2600.2749 English Final Retail 8/30/2005 00:13:42 1287680 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.0000.3936 English Final Retail 8/21/2006 09:52:08 246814 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.0005.0053 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.0016.0003 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.0062.0002 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.0064.0001 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2562.0015.0055 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 755200 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.0063.0048 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 200192 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.0064.0048 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 183808 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.10.0002.0051 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 154624 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 204288 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:15:22 140928 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 130048 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:08:04 48640 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 18:58:40 5376 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 18:58:42 4992 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 18:58:42 7552 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 4352 bytes
msdvbnp.ax: 6.05.2710.2732 English Final Retail 8/5/2005 14:01:54 58368 bytes
psisdecd.dll: 6.05.2715.3011 English Final Retail 10/9/2006 16:12:14 235008 bytes
psisrndr.ax: 6.05.2715.3011 English Final Retail 10/9/2006 16:12:30 224256 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.2710.2732 English Final Retail 8/5/2005 14:01:54 62976 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.2715.3011 English Final Retail 10/9/2006 16:15:52 1669632 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 30720 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 17408 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 3/15/2006 08:00:00 50688 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMA Voice Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder,0xff800001,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.00.0002.2041
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
ffdshow raw video filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.00.0002.2041
ffdshow Audio Decoder,0x3fffffff,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.00.0002.2041
WST Renderer,0x00800000,1,1,WSTRenderer.ax,6.05.2710.2 732
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.5721.5145
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.402 6.0000
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2710.2732
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0 000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2715. 3011
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.00 00
Microsoft TV Caption Decoder,0x00600000,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,5.01.2715.3011
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2 749
Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
WMT Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.0000. 4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.05.2710.2732
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.0000.0050
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2710.2732
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.0000.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.000 0
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4000
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5 145
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
XviD MPEG-4 Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,xvid.ax,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2715.3011
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2709
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.03.2600.2180
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
CBVA Filter,0x00200000,1,1,CBVAFilter.dll,5.01.2700.218 0
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.0000. 4487
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.000 0
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2709
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2709
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.05.2710.2732
WMT DirectX Transform Wrapper,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2710 .2732
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® audio software,0x00500000,1,1,iac25_32.ax,2.00.0005.0053
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ffdshow Audio Processor,0x00200000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.00.0002.2041
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.00 00
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2 180
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.05.2710.2732
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0 000
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.271 5.3011
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2709
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2 749
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2 749
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00000000,0,0,,
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
ffdshow video encoder,0x00100000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.00.0002.2041
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00100000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.274 9
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
ffdshow Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
XviD MPEG-4 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Compressors:
WMA Voice Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IAC2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600 .2749
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

Audio Capture Sources:
Realtek AC97 Audio,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPU-401,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
Realtek AC97 Audio,0x00200000,3,3,,5.03.2600.2180

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
Realtek AC97 Audio,0x00200000,3,3,,5.03.2600.2180

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.05.2710.2732

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.05.2710.2732

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.05.2710.2732

WDM Streaming Mixer Devices:
Microsoft Kernel Wave Audio Mixer,0x00000000,0,0,,

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2715.3011
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2715.3011
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2715.3011

Audio Renderers:
Realtek AC97 Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DirectSound: Realtek AC97 Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

WDM Streaming System Devices:
MPU-401,0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180
Realtek AC97 Audio,0x00200000,17,2,,5.03.2600.2180

Crimsonghost99

04-03-07, 11:43 AM

Oh yeah, I also installed everything that came with SH4. All Codecs and the version of DX.

Front Runner

04-03-07, 11:45 AM

My system is running with EVGA Nvidia 8800GTX running in SLI although I don't think SLI mode has any effect on SH4.

I have had no problems with the game as you have described.

I am running an external sound box. The discontinued Creative Audigy 2 NX as all of my native motherboard slots are taken up with the 2 graphics cards and the Aegia PhsX device.
If you are using Motherboard Sound, I suggest you either get a good sound card or a USB external box such as the Creative Live USB box.

SKurj

04-03-07, 11:57 AM

Also, see if you can monitor the temp in the case... or even the video card.

I'm running a ATI 1950 pro and it will go from 38 deg C on my desktop to around 60 when running SH4.

Gorgon

04-03-07, 12:02 PM

I am running a 8800 GTX on Vista, all settings maxed, with no CTD's. I do however think there is a memory issue. I have 2 GB of ram, and get occasional stutters and had one CTD.

I save my missions about once every 30 minutes or so. It seems that much longer than that, it runs out of memory and slows down.

SH3 runs like a charm with the 8800 series.

Are you letting windows handle your memory?

Yes, windows handles the memory for me. Food for thought, the 8800 GTX video card has 768 MB of memory. Audio cards use system memory, could be the culprit.

I don't think thats the issue, but you can try it out. Sound cards, by the contrary, take workload from the cpu, not the other way around. Instead of the CPU processing sound, you have the sound chip making the work. The only thing I can see is memory usage by the sound card, and even that I doubt pretty much if you have 2 gigs.

As for the 8800 series, I have also to disagree. I have a Inno3D 8800 GTS 320MB and the game runs like an angel. No matter how much action, ships, explosions, etc, the frame rate never drops to a level that provoques stutering.

SteamWake

04-03-07, 12:07 PM

Thanks for all the replies. Seems to be a hot topic. Anyhow the sound I am using is the onboard Realtek AC97 sound

Not to be mean or anything but that sound board is absolute crap.

Id bet youd be better off by going out and buying a in expensive sound card.... anything is better than the AC97. Theyve been around for at least 5 years that I know of.

Its also quite posible that windows guessed the wrong drivers and it actually is not an AC97. Check the manual for your mobo.

Windows does that all the time with NIC cards. So often in fact I manually install drivers for them now.

Nightmare

04-03-07, 12:19 PM

I'm running a e6600 with 2 gig of ram on the 975 chipset mothboard with a EVGA 8800GTS with zero problems. I do get a 30 second hang on open radio messages but that is a known bug during a long patrol.

My bet would be that it's your onboard sound. An easy way to test this is to disable it in the BIOS then try playing the game for an extended period without sound. If it doesn't crash, then you know the problem.

NonWonderDog

04-03-07, 12:22 PM

AC97 is actually a codec, not a sound chipset. It's just the standard that all onboard sound chips used until 2004. Intel High Definition Audio is apparently its successor, but I know absolutely nothing about it.

Built-in AC97 chipsets range from pretty good (the nForce Audio chipset is a great one) to very, very bad. The worst seem to be the ubiquitous Realtek chipsets, as they like to randomly change the pitch of whatever they're supposed to be playing. Even the good chipsets use system memory for sound, so a standalone sound card is always a good investment.

I still hold a grudge with Creative for suing Aureal into oblivion (Aureal won, but went bankrupt from the legal fees), but they're the only real choice nowadays.

Of course, Turtle Beach is still around. All of their cards sound better than anything Creative's ever made, but the driver support is horrendous.

SeeFalke

04-03-07, 12:24 PM

Could it be the power supply is too small?

I think you hit the nail right on the head with that statement. I think he may have a power supply problem. I just recently rebuilt my system, running exactly what he's running with the exception of the sound card (not sure what he has). Well I was having the same problem not only with SH4 but various outher products. I found out through CompUSA that the power supply may have been going out or wasn't sufficient for the system. I got a 650 Wat power supply and since then I haven't had a single CTD on any program (which is good seeing I'm running Vista) . I also noticed the date of the driver he's using for NVidia, if I am not mistaken they have a driver that was released in February or March, he may want to check on that, especialy if he's running Vista.

quadraspleen

04-03-07, 01:03 PM

So far, the only difference between your machine and pretty much everbody else who has replied is that you are running Media Center.

Now I know MC is the "same" as XP, but it isn't. It uses it's media handling capabilities in a slightly different way to XP, and it is always allocating resources to the actual "Media Center" bit of XP. This encompasses a lot of the inside of your PC, as it utilises the vid card, sound card, ethernet card (which is always a bad system bandwidth hog) Kind of a prefetch on certain DLL's etc.

I would go along with everything that ppl have said about sound cards, but I would also clear my Event Viewer logs, reboot and try and run the game again, then post any obvious errors (Red X's in eventvwr) here and we'll see what might be actually causing it. There is usually a pretty good audit trail for CTD's and BSOD's in the eventvwr logs, and any dmp crashdumps you might have had.

BTW, I'm running it on Vista Ultimate with an 8800GTS..Apart from the bloody jaggies, it runs schweet :cool:

What I have noticed, and I'm not sure if this is a Vista thing, as I'm not letting any of my XP machines have my 8800 :smug: , is that on the video card properties, it shows that in addition to the 640Mb it has, the card is using 766Mb of system RAM, and my total system RAM is showing as only 3326 of 4Gb. I'm not sure, as I say, if this happens in XP/MC, so it's worth checking that, too, although even with .5Gb of your RAM taken by the GTS, the game should still run fine...

Syneval

04-03-07, 01:54 PM

Actually if you read the dxdiag it mentions xp professional sp2 ...

Anyway I'm running SH4 on an E6600, 2gb twinmoss ram, 8800 GTS 320mb version, without any troubles at all.

Deep Six

04-03-07, 02:30 PM

A couple of things your page file is way to high..try turning of a few background programs....If your not bothered at all about internet connections then try this...Clean boot from Microsoft....Once you use it in auto(Let it show you how) you can then do it yourself, and if you have 24/7 Broadband and are paranoid you can then enable it

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353

Next ...sorry to say but your onboard sound....Even though its an Asus card...Just aint going to cut it....Do your self a favour get a dedicated sound card...If you can afford it this is a very good card not as decked out as it's big brother with the front header, but it has 64 meg of RAm dedicated to sound.

Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Professional 7.1 Soundcard

I'm running with a 8800GTX with no problems...

another thing....Download Memtest from here
http://www.memtest.org/

Make a boot cd...

And run Memtest over night to stress your memory...This will definately tell you within the first hour if you have faulty memory modules. Still run though over night sometimes failurs do not occur until something like the 20th pass!!!

Deep six

Deep Six

04-03-07, 02:37 PM

WonderDog yeah Aureal were really nice sound cards......But the tide is changing Creative have competition at last.....

Auzentech X-Meridian 7.1 Soundcard. Not cheap and from what I'm hearing beats the crap out of creative, not a clunky front heavy thing that creaive is....I actually have a fatality Pro but choose NOT to install all that crap that comes with it...Just the console and drivers!!

~Here's another up and coming sound card from a well know established house

Razer Barracuda AC-1 Gaming 7.1 Soundcard, again aint cheap but it looks the BIZ!!!

I have yet to have a sound stutter playing any games that I own at the moment so I think I'll stick with what I have got....But there agin DX10 just around the corner!!!

Out of the two above the Auzentech is a very professional piece of hardware.

Deep six...

quadraspleen

04-03-07, 02:57 PM

Actually if you read the dxdiag it mentions xp professional sp2 ...

Anyway I'm running SH4 on an E6600, 2gb twinmoss ram, 8800 GTS 320mb version, without any troubles at all.

Not wanting to split hairs, but if you read his post above the DXDIAG he says he is using XP MCE 2005, which is NOT XP Professional SP2; I don't care what DXDIAG says. So either he doesn't know what OS he is using (extremely unlikely) or DXDIAG is not interrogating his OS correctly. I don't run MCE, nor do any of my customers, so I've never had cause to DXDIAG it..

AND I'M USING ONBOARD SOUND!! realtek HD<--oh yeah, sure it is...and I have no sound issues at all...

Rykaird

04-03-07, 03:01 PM

I have an 8800GTX and I have no issues that are specific to the card. My CTDs are primarily related to save games.

Rilex

04-03-07, 03:10 PM

I use an Asus P5B-E using the onboard sound (Intel HD) and an eVGA 8800GTS. No issue with sound what-so-ever.

XP MCE, just like Vista Home Premium or Ultimate, does not run MCE unless you invoke it. So there is nothing "extra" happening on an MCE install unless you run MCE. With a few capabilities removed, XP MCE is identical to XP Pro.

As for his page file, there is nothing wrong with it. No need to change it from System Managed (which his appears to be). The only effect a "large" page file has is reduced drive space unless you're actually utilizing it to a greater degree, then you'll have a performance loss (just as you would even with a smaller page file).

Crimsonghost99

04-04-07, 11:42 PM

Just wanted to update everyone on this situation. I have recontacted Ubi and told them that the original answer was unacceptable and was able to get to the point where I send them the DXDIAG and MSINFO files for evaluation. Also, I have since updated drivers for the onboard NVIDIA NFORCE 4 sound. First I tried the new drivers from Realtek and then the newest from Nvidia themselves. All to no avail. Still waiting to hear back from Ubi though. So in the mean time I decided to blow the dust off of SH3 and play that to satisfy my desires to send some tankers to the ocean floor and guess what. After intalling, and patching, and trying to get reaquainted with SH3, same thing. Well, almost. NOw the sound studders and system freezes with the sound repeating. I have various other games including STALKER, BF2, Flight Simulator 2004 and X, and HL2. None of these other games exhibit these problems.

So, I guess I will sit here and wait as I scratch my head as I try and figure out why SH3 and SH4 are the only ones my system does not like. The system I have now is not the one that I played SH3 on originally. That one is sitting in the closet gathering dust. Thinking about setting it back up. :) Anyhow, once again, if anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thanks.

w00ps

04-05-07, 12:41 AM

Running Evga 8800GTS (Opty 165/WinXp x64) , no such related problems here .

But Xfire seems to have a quirk with SH4 from time to time .

XanderF

04-05-07, 01:41 AM

Running Evga 8800GTS (Opty 165/WinXp x64) , no such related problems here .

But Xfire seems to have a quirk with SH4 from time to time .

RE: Xfire. Tools -> Options -> Games. Select game, 'disable Xfire in game'. Problems solved! It still tracks your status (shows you in-game when you are), still tracks time played, etc - it just doesn't tie into the game .exe anymore, and resolves the crashing issue.

RE: The rest of the thread. Realtek AC'97 definitely IS a problem. I used Realtek HD Audio (ALC882) for a while, and their HD stuff isn't bad. It's not great - it's certainly no competition to an X-Fi, but it's not bad. The AC'97 is total ****, though, no question. Unstable, buggy, system resource intensive, and doesn't even perform basic EAX functions properly.

RE: Creative's competition. Sorry, but no. I hate monopolies as much as the next guy, but EAX is the de facto standard in audio. No audio manufacturer, PERIOD, aside from Creative has EAX support past EAX 2 (EAX is now up to version 5). And for everyone who even offers EAX 2, it's all emulated in software. There are absolutely no hardware-accelerated EAX offerings in the market except Creative cards (and, to be fair, not even all of them. For example, the "X-Fi Xtreme Audio" only offers up to EAX 3, and all that in software. The "Audigy 2 Value" and "Live! 24bit" the exact same.) For pure audio listening - yes, there are absolutely better offerings out there, with no question at all. I had an ESI Juli@ once, and that was an AWESOME card for lossless audio playback. But for gaming? Creative is the ONLY shop in town.

Crimsonghost99

04-05-07, 09:44 PM

Ok, time for another update. I opened the Event Viewer and found that under the system tab I am getting lots of warnings. They say "An error was dedected on device \Device\Harddisk0\D during a paging operation". I noticed that I get anywhere from 5 to 30 of these and the seem to happen in the few minuites prior to the system freezing. Oh yeah, it is also freezing on all games now. And I set up MEMTEST to run all day while I was at work and came home to find it frozen again. I am suspecting that my HD it failing but my HD is Drive C: And I think the message is saying that I have a problem with Drive D: which used to be my external drive but it changed itself to Drive F: Anyone have any new ideas? Thanks.

Rilex

04-05-07, 11:37 PM

\Device\HardDisk0 is the disk connected to (usually) the Primary IDE chain in the Master position, or SCSI ID 0, or the SATA #1 connector.

But yes, that would indicate a possibly failing drive.

Crimsonghost99

04-06-07, 11:12 AM

Ok, I have now replaced my 3 month old 500GB HDD with a 3 year old 74.6 GB WD Raptor drive that I had laying around. I am in the process of reinstalling and updating everything. Will give another update when get it all up and running. I have also ordered a new 500GB drive. Hopefully this fixes it all. Cya soon.

meatball

04-06-07, 12:03 PM

Sounds like you found the problem. Another program that is very good to rule out CPU/memory heat problems due to overclocking is Prime95. It is a free, processor intensive program used for finding prime numbers:

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

Run it and select "stress test" in one of the menu's and let it go overnight. I don't own a dual processor (yet) but run it on both processors also. If you get any errors after running it overnight then you may have heat issues with your CPU, especially if you overclock.

Razman23

04-06-07, 01:31 PM

I run a Coolermaster case with 7 - 120mm fans. Cooling is the least of my worries. :lol:

Crimsonghost99

04-06-07, 09:11 PM

Well, after a HD change, no luck. Any other ideas?

Crimsonghost99

04-07-07, 12:20 AM

Ok, someone I was talking to about this problem said that this may be caused by my video card. Anyone else care to chime in on this theory?

listerlives

04-07-07, 02:48 AM

Have you tried running the game with sound disabled? Disabled at the driver level I mean. Remove your sound drivers and disable the onboard sound in your bios then run the game. See if it still crashes. I have the same mobo in one of my older PC's. The onboard sound was crap. If you don't get any crashes with no sound, then go buy a soundcard.

-Lister

Crimsonghost99

04-07-07, 09:49 PM

Ok, I think I may have this figured out. I noticed that when I updated the BIOS that my memory voltages were a little off. They were set on Auto instead of the required 2.3V. This seems to have settled things down. Anyone else think that this could be the solution? I hope it is because I cant take much more of this. :)

THE_MASK

04-07-07, 10:24 PM

Realtek has new drivers and sometimes installing the drivers from the microsoft update centre works better on some things . Take it to a computer technician if all else fails .

rulle34

04-08-07, 07:00 AM

I also have this sound issue. After a while this sound studders starting, some soundfunctions can stop to work, once the torpedos did´nt load, and it looks like some functions starting to get wierd. I have noticed it occurs when using high TC. If I then save the game and reload game the sound issue is gone, and then come back after a while.:o

Im running on a 8800 GTX, P4 3.4 GHz, 2Gb Ram, XP pro SP2, Creative Audigy 2Z, all with the latest drivers and updates.
Could it be the sound card? Never have had any problems like this before with any other game.
Glad for some help here.