GWX for the Light-Sub Captain?

[dbolivar]

Ahoy Mates.

I just finished downloading GWX... I do have one concern before I totally overwrite anything in my SH3 folder.

Is GWX suited to the Light-Sub Captain or best just left to the Die-hard, Salty-Dog Submariners? For example I don't know how to manually plot a torpedo trajectory, nor do I intend to EVER do that. I barely passed trigonometry and math and have a downright HATE towards anything that requires math... I'm like that, I'm 43, and I don't plan on changing... When I play a game I like to relax, so you could say I'm a Sub Captain Light.

Should I or should I not install and play GWX?

Your input will be much appreciated.

Cheers!

[cobalt]

gwx just makes the game a bit harder, and adds a lot of interesting features. None of which will make you do any extra math though.

PS; manual targeting does not require any math beyond simple angles. you should give it a try, its quite fun

[dbolivar]

Thanks for the very fast reply my friend. :up:

Is there an outline, other than the manual that explains just how hard and in which areas it makes the game more challenging?

Manual Targeting:
I have tried it, and it's not my thing, at all. Angles have to do with numbers, numbers are managed by the left side of my brain, which is technically inactive since I was 4.
I prefer painting, drawing, sculpting, designing... It is my personal philosophy that numbers are for machines, not people... At least not me. Not fun for ME.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

@ dbolivar, using GWX does not mean that you are forced to use manual targetting or plotting.

That being the case... what is the aim of your poll?

[dbolivar]

@ dbolivar, using GWX does not mean that you are forced to use manual targetting or plotting.
I used manual targeting as an example of something that may be more difficult to do playing the mod than it would be in the stock version of the game.

@ dbolivar
That being the case... what is the aim of your poll?
The aim of the poll is to collect feedback from users that have installed the MOD.
Do you have a problem that I've created the poll? Or are polls reserved to a certain group, mind set or affiliation? Do I have to be Polish to post a poll?

Please advise.

[Zero Niner]

I'm happily using GWX without having to worry about numbers.
About the only number-intensive (if you can call it that) workout I get is plotting an intercept course when I get updates on the map, but that requirement is also present in stock SH3 as well.
Even then I discovered this neat-o method that utilises some of the mapping tools, and is quite accurate. So intercepting contacts is not a problem.

Go for it, GWX makes the game much more interesting. Certainly more difficult (in realism terms, not number crunching) than stock, but I also find it quite enjoyable.
:ping:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

@ dbolivar, using GWX does not mean that you are forced to use manual targetting or plotting.
I used manual targeting as an example of something that may be more difficult to do playing the mod than it would be in the stock version of the game.

@ dbolivar
That being the case... what is the aim of your poll?
The aim of the poll is to collect feedback from users that have installed the MOD.
Do you have a problem that I've created the poll? Or are polls reserved to a certain group, mind set or affiliation? Do I have to be Polish to post a poll?

Please advise.

Manual targetting in GWX is no more simple or difficult than in stock SH3.

Are you reading my question to you as a personal attack? It would seem so. If so, I would say that you are jumping to conclusions prematurely.

I asked a reasonable question to determine the underlying need that you felt to post a poll that concerns GWX. If it concerns GWX, it can be reasonable to assume that it may concern me.;)

[Madox58]

I don't need a poll on mods for any game.
I'm 49, I install, if I don't like, I uninstall.
Being 49, I don't take well to others telling me what I should install.
Course, when I was a young 43, maybe I couldn't make up my own mind? :hmm:
I don't remember!
:rotfl: :rotfl:

[dbolivar]

[quote=dbolivar][quote=Kpt. Lehmann]@ dbolivar, using GWX does not mean that you are forced to use manual targetting or plotting.
I used manual targeting as an example of something that may be more difficult to do playing the mod than it would be in the stock version of the game.

@ dbolivar


Are you reading my question to you as a personal attack? It would seem so. If so, I would say that you are jumping to conclusions prematurely.

I asked a reasonable question to determine the underlying need that you felt to post a poll that concerns GWX. If it concerns GWX, it can be reasonable to assume that it may concern me.;)

I didn't say I felt attacked at all. Quite to the contrary. :)

[dbolivar]

I don't need a poll on mods for any game.
I'm 49, I install, if I don't like, I uninstall.
Being 49, I don't take well to others telling me what I should install.
Course, when I was a young 43, maybe I couldn't make up my own mind? :hmm:
I don't remember!
:rotfl: :rotfl:

You know, I came here to ask you folks, [that seem to spend a lot more time than I playing simulations] a question regarding a MOD I am thinking of installing. I do apologize if, unlike yourself, I don't have time to install, un-install. Not if I can get feedback from individuals that have been there and back. After all this is what forums are for are they not?

You see I don't mind taking advise from folks that know more than I, regardless of their age. And I certainly do not find joy in indirectly suggesting that others, due to lesser age, are weak minded due to their careful undertaking of what they place or do not on their machines.

I am very happy that you have time to install, test uninstall, things all day. I, good Sir, do not. Reason for my post, and poll. It has absolutely nothing to do with not being able to make up my mind. I reserve higher thinking to higher needs by the way.

I am going to give GWX a try... if I don't liek it, I'll just uninstall it! :P

[Kpt. Lehmann]

No worries.

Manual targetting is something that we do need to explain better for GWX in the manual with the update that is in the works.

If you do install GWX, the manual will explain all significant changes. You can find the GWX manual ('das Buch') in your SilentHunterIII/documentation folder.

Concerning player game mechanics / player control of the game itself. We made great efforts to make sure that it remained/remains intuitive for those making the jump from stock SH3.

Events that happen external to the U-boat that do not require input from the player... Well, that is naturally an entirely different animal.

BwaHAHAHAHAHAAAaaa!!!! :arrgh!:

At any rate... a player only has to use complicated math if he chooses to.

[Madox58]

I ment my post as a sorta tounge in cheek thing. :oops:
If I offended you, I'm sorry.
That's what the rolly thingys are for.
After you are around awhile, you'll find us like the neighborhood bar. :huh:
Go ahead and install GWX.
You will like it.
And you can still start on 28 % realizum till you get better.
And like you, MATH to me, is harder then flying to the moon
by flapping my arms!!!
:rotfl: :rotfl:
And I make a liveing off of square foot? :hmm:

[dbolivar]

Excellent Kpt. Lehmann!

Thank you for such hard work, I can tell you put a lot of effort into creating an accurate reproduction by just reading the manual. My curiosity compels me to install the MOD.

I am sure to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

KUDOS to everyone involved!

[dbolivar]

I ment my post as a sorta tounge in cheek thing. :oops:
If I offended you, I'm sorry.
That's what the rolly thingys are for.
After you are around awhile, you'll find us like the neighborhood bar. :huh:
Go ahead and install GWX.
You will like it.
And you can still start on 28 % realizum till you get better.
And like you, MATH to me, is harder then flying to the moon
by flapping my arms!!!
:rotfl: :rotfl:
And I make a liveing off of square foot? :hmm:

Good Lord bro,.. why do you think I was offended? Heh. I've learned to not be offended by words. Doing that cuts your life-battles in half. I'm sure a old sea-dog like yourself would agree.

I just needed to pee around the fence a bit... :P I thnk I haven't posted much of anything since I signed up years ago. Gotta give ya something to talk about as soon as you see the saloon doors swing open and I strut my stuff in here. :)

Cheers and Peace Gentlemen.

[Madox58]

You Sir,
Are an Arse! :stare:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Good on Ya Mate!! :up:
(But I STILL say flying to the moon by flappin my arms is easier then
all that AOB + EMS -Time it takes dog to poop stuff!)

[Kpt. Lehmann]

I ment my post as a sorta tounge in cheek thing. :oops:
If I offended you, I'm sorry.
That's what the rolly thingys are for.
After you are around awhile, you'll find us like the neighborhood bar. :huh:
Go ahead and install GWX.
You will like it.
And you can still start on 28 % realizum till you get better.
And like you, MATH to me, is harder then flying to the moon
by flapping my arms!!!
:rotfl: :rotfl:
And I make a liveing off of square foot? :hmm:

Good Lord bro,.. why do you think I was offended? Heh. I've learned to not be offended by words. Doing that cuts your life-battles in half. I'm sure a old sea-dog like yourself would agree.

I just needed to pee around the fence a bit... :P I thnk I haven't posted much of anything since I signed up years ago. Gotta give ya something to talk about as soon as you see the saloon doors swing open and I strut my stuff in here. :)

Cheers and Peace Gentlemen.

Feel free to pee on the fence... It is electrified.

If you are just trying to stir the pot. We have enough hecklers.:dead:

[Genferret]

In my opinion, GWX makes things even easier for those who don't like to do the manual targeting. Since they add so many more juicy targets over Stock SHIII you can rack up a higher tonnage rate just based off the fact you run into so much more shipping.

Do be warned that the 'Lock' feature when looking through the Periscope and Uzo unlocks faster and more often with GWX. The only time that's a pain is if you're trying to keep something in view while doing hard turns and popping between the scope, TDC, and recognition manual.

Even when doing auto-targeting I didn't use that feature often since it locks onto the dead center of the ship in question and not necessarily the best place to put a eel or two.

[Madox58]

Well,
Since I never made it outta the Kiel canal, :oops:
You all know more then me!!!:damn:
And, BDU frowns heavely on sinking stuff while there!!
:rotfl:

[Steppenwolf]

No problem for someone new to SH3 to install GWX. All of the realism options still function, so you can switch them all off and still play an easy(light) game.

About the only thing you can't toggle off in the options, is the harder enemy destroyers/air etc. However, there are two easy ways around this. One, fight early in the war when there are fewer and less intelligent escorts/planes, no radar, less effective sonar etc. Two, there are dozens of mods specifically for GWX to change just about every aspect of the sim. So if you want an invulnerable submarine, blinder escorts or just about anything else, it's out there.

[dbolivar]

No problem for someone new to SH3 to install GWX.

I purchased and been playing SHIII since it came out. Actually I've been playing sub sims since the Amiga. But perhaps I just like to play games AS GAMES and not total absolute simulations. Reason for my questions regarding the MOD. By what I've already been exposed to in the MODed game, I am inclined to go back to the stock game. It's more of a GAME that way and not something I will get all uptighty about as do some modders that think just because they didn't charge anything to create something, no one is entitled to mess with their holy grail, critique it, question it's worth or partake in a poll to gather user input.

Some people need to relax a little. Others need to stop telling grown men how to conduct themselves. Others need to respect people they don't know and left are the folks that are actually helpful and send private messages with their opinions, instead of the ones that send private messages to try to impress the fact that they somehow OWN this forum just because they created a stinking MOD for a game!

Life is more than a simulation... go play that for a while.

Pfft

Cheers

[Kpt. Lehmann]

No problem for someone new to SH3 to install GWX.

I purchased and been playing SHIII since it came out. Actually I've been playing sub sims since the Amiga. But perhaps I just like to play games AS GAMES and not total absolute simulations. Reason for my questions regarding the MOD. By what I've already been exposed to in the MODed game, I am inclined to go back to the stock game. It's more of a GAME that way and not something I will get all uptighty about as do some modders that think just because they didn't charge anything to create something, no one is entitled to mess with their holy grail, critique it, question it's worth or partake in a poll to gather user input.

Some people need to relax a little. Others need to stop telling grown men how to conduct themselves. Others need to respect people they don't know and left are the folks that are actually helpful and send private messages with their opinions, instead of the ones that send private messages to try to impress the fact that they somehow OWN this forum just because they created a stinking MOD for a game!

Life is more than a simulation... go play that for a while.

Pfft

Cheers

Smells like sour grapes to me.

Peeing on that electric fence must have really hurt.

Its easy as heck to just swagger in and complain about things you didn't have anything to do with creating.

We have made the SH3 better than we found it.

Bottom line... if ya don't like a mod... just uninstall the damn thing instead of bitching about work you didn't do.

If you want to play Space Invaders or Pac-Man... you are in the wrong place.

Best of luck.

[d@rk51d3]

Gee! Look at the time........... I think I'd better get home......:lol:

[joea]

Some people are thick, none of the mods that have been made force a person to use manual targetting ... GWX has a lot of eye candy lacking in the stock game. Granted some might not like the AI tweaks etc. but I think even a casual skipper can enjoy this mod, that's why there is an "easy" mode. It's also pretty low of the OP to praise GWX after reading the manual then to trash it. In fact while constructive criticism is good I hate trashing modders in general.

[Seminole]

It is the difference in taking a country girl to the movies on Saturday night as opposed to escorting an elegant lady to the 21 Club.

The question is are you up to it?