Liars!!!!

[fred8615]

Before the game came out, I asked if my video card would be able to run it, and was told unequivicably, absolutely, positively no way!!! Not just that it would be slow, but that it wouldn't run at all!
Well lo and behold this morning, I get a message from the Yahoo SH group that lists the supported video cards, and mine is on the list!!! So I go to UBI's website, and I find a program that will check your system's compatibility for the game. This is what it showed for my video card:

Video Card Minimum: 128 MB RAM DirectX 9-compliant video card capable of rendering Pixel Shader 2.0 (NVIDIA GeForce 6200+ / ATI Radeon 9600+) You Have: RADEON X300/X550 Series (Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series (0x5B60))

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/min_chart_3.gif</IMG>PASS Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video RAM: Required - 128 MB , You have - 128.0 MBhttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yeshttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - Yeshttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0

Top end, no. But still above the minimum, and thus playable!! And that's what I'm mad about. Because of what I was told, I cancelled my pre-order. If I hadn't, I could've been playing the game by now!!! :damn:
I'm so mad right now I could shoot survivors in a lifeboat!! :nope: :nope: :nope:

[John Channing]

Sooooo..

Because the developers were able to optimize the code to work on your card...

OR

Because the Publisher listed the specs conservatively to try and keep people's expections at a realistic level...

You call them liars and complain that it will work on your system? Man! Do I ever wish I could be a Simulation Developer/Publisher.

Or maybe I'll just sit here in my office and whack myself in the head repeatedly with a blunt metal object. I have the feeling that it would be much the same experience.


JCC

[RickC Sniper]

I read that and took it as Fred calling the guys here liars. There were guys here before the game ever came out recommending upgrading this or that based on their own assumptions as to what the game would need to run smoothly.

RickC

[vasmann]

Could you please provide link for that application which checks hardware for compatibility.
Thabk you.

[OneTinSoldier]

Could you please provide link for that application which checks hardware for compatibility.
Thabk you.


http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/


Cheers

[Dowly]

I wouldnt expect too good performance from x300/x500 card. I had x600 once and it sucked major butt. Yeh, the game works, but the FPS will most propably be very low.

[vasmann]

Could you please provide link for that application which checks hardware for compatibility.
Thabk you.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/


Cheers

Thank you.

[Grothesj2]

Could you please provide link for that application which checks hardware for compatibility.
Thabk you.


http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/


Cheers

Ohhh...very handy site. :know:

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

Sooooo..

Because the developers were able to optimize the code to work on your card...

OR

Because the Publisher listed the specs conservatively to try and keep people's expections at a realistic level...

You call them liars and complain that it will work on your system? Man! Do I ever wish I could be a Simulation Developer/Publisher.

Or maybe I'll just sit here in my office and whack myself in the head repeatedly with a blunt metal object. I have the feeling that it would be much the same experience.


JCC

Pretty much everything I wanted to say, minus the fact I wanted to indulge in a little personal commentary as well :rotfl:

[John Channing]

I read that and took it as Fred calling the guys here liars. There were guys here before the game ever came out recommending upgrading this or that based on their own assumptions as to what the game would need to run smoothly.

RickC

If that's the case I apologize.

Because you guys are a bunch of well known liars.

JCC

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

I'm liking the cut of your jib.

[John Channing]

Would you like to subscribe to my Newsletter?

(inside joke for devotees of FARK.com)

JCC

[Onkel Neal]

Before the game came out, I asked if my video card would be able to run it, and was told unequivicably, absolutely, positively no way!!! Not just that it would be slow, but that it wouldn't run at all!
Well lo and behold this morning, I get a message from the Yahoo SH group that lists the supported video cards, and mine is on the list!!! So I go to UBI's website, and I find a program that will check your system's compatibility for the game. This is what it showed for my video card:

Video Card Minimum: 128 MB RAM DirectX 9-compliant video card capable of rendering Pixel Shader 2.0 (NVIDIA GeForce 6200+ / ATI Radeon 9600+) You Have: RADEON X300/X550 Series (Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series (0x5B60))

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/min_chart_3.gif</IMG>PASS Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video RAM: Required - 128 MB , You have - 128.0 MBhttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yeshttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - Yeshttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0

Top end, no. But still above the minimum, and thus playable!! And that's what I'm mad about. Because of what I was told, I cancelled my pre-order. If I hadn't, I could've been playing the game by now!!! :damn:
I'm so mad right now I could shoot survivors in a lifeboat!! :nope: :nope: :nope:

Life is so hard, ain't it? You do realize that when you ask us for help or info, we do the best we can? And if we are wrong, we are liars?

Thanks, pal

[TDK1044]

When the poster tries to play the game using his current card, and when the game makes his card as welcome as a fart in a space suit, I wonder who he'll blame then?

[GSpector]

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_checkmark_min.gif</IMG>CPU Minimum: Pentium 4 or Athlon or better You Have: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 4000+

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/min_chart_3.gif</IMG>PASS http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_checkmark_min.gif</IMG>CPU Speed Minimum: 2 GHz You Have: 2.45 GHz Performance Rated at 4.00 GHz

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/min_chart_6.gif</IMG>PASS

I'm not even overclocking. Must be the benifit of using XP in Classic mode.


Video Card
Minimum: 128 MB RAM DirectX 9-compliant video card capable of rendering Pixel Shader 2.0 (NVIDIA GeForce 6200+ / ATI Radeon 9600+) You Have: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LE (GeForce FX 5700LE)

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/min_chart_2.gif</IMG>FAIL: Sorry, your video card does not meet this minimum requirement. Upgrade to a more powerful video card will make all your applications look better. Click the 'We Recommend' button to see some great options.Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video RAM: Required - 128 MB , You have - 256.0 MBhttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yeshttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - Yeshttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0
Funny, Card passed everything but still fails:hmm: . Nice to know the rest of the system past with flying colors :up:
I just need to look for a GeForce 7800 Series Card and I'l be happy.

[Onkel Neal]

When the poster tries to play the game using his current card, and when the game makes his card as welcome as a fart in a space suit, I wonder who he'll blame then?

Not me :) I'm not answering any more of his questions.

[Antrodemus]

Upgrade to a more powerful video card will make all your applications look better.
Awww... so if I buy a swanky new 8800GTX I can get wots n wots of wickle pwetty fings on my Word n Excel n stuff?

:rotfl:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Yeah, you can have Mr Paperclip in full 3D ;)

[Flakchak]

Upgrade to a more powerful video card will make all your applications look better.
Awww... so if I buy a swanky new 8800GTX I can get wots n wots of wickle pwetty fings on my Word n Excel n stuff?

:rotfl:

Absolutely. I got an 8800GTX, and now Word freaking types my stuff for me. However, it's spelling is atrocious.

[Antrodemus]

Yeah, you can have Mr Paperclip in full 3D
Kewlll!!!oneone. ;)



BTW, I like the Proud Kraftwerk Listener sig... :up: I remember back in 1983(?), a couple of friends & I were making our way up to the Glasgow Apollo to see/hear the guys play, when very familiar lookin' bloke on a bike, wearing all-black gear, stopped us to ask the way to the Apollo. None other than Mr Schneider! :smug: It made a great day even better, as he invited us backstage for the soundcheck... :rock:

[fred8615]

I knew I should've put a few smileys in my post, but I thought the machine gunning survivors comment would suffice. :)

Be that as it may, I think I do have the right to be a little angry at people telling me catagorically that the game would not work at all, then finding out diffirently.

[Rilder]

I hit hall recomended except for RAM(by 512) :up: Still only get about 20 FPS but this computer is a couple years old.... :-? Hopefully for my birthday I get a new computer, 800 bucks to build it and would probably save the people that are getting this computer 600-700 bucks as an incentive :p

[TDK1044]

I knew I should've put a few smileys in my post, but I thought the machine gunning survivors comment would suffice. :)

Be that as it may, I think I do have the right to be a little angry at people telling me catagorically that the game would not work at all, then finding out diffirently.

But in all honesty, Fred, nobody here could really know for sure. With all the available info at the time of your original question, my response would have been that it's highly unlikely your card would handle the game.

This game really needs a mid range (or higher) PCI-e card in order to really appreciate it. I have a 7600 GT video card, 2 Gigs of Ram and a P4 3.0 processor. The game plays like a dream, but if I was lower on any one of those I'm sure I'd be looking at low fps and some stuttering.

[9th_cow]

well it runs on my unsuported GF 6200 looks good too.
i was going to upgrade but thought a xbox 360 would give me more fun :)
gfx cards are all nice and well but ive had poor luck with them in the past ( bought 3 2 were broken on arrival 1 burned out in no time) so im just happy this actually runs on my old rig.

[Egan]

3.8 p4, 2 gig ram and a 6800 ultra = single digit fps in harbours and a max of 28 when the going is clear for me. Of course, I could switch everything off in a bid to gain a few frames but the better idea is a new card! Hooray for excuses! :up:

Don't you hate it when the computer you lovingly saved all your pennies for and played everything like a dream without a second thought suddenly decides it's had enough? Down with progress, thats what I say. Any word on Windows Vista for my abacus? bet it only works with 98....

[Onkel Neal]

I knew I should've put a few smileys in my post, but I thought the machine gunning survivors comment would suffice. :)

Be that as it may, I think I do have the right to be a little angry at people telling me catagorically that the game would not work at all, then finding out diffirently.
Be angry all you want, Fred. Whomever told you that was probably trying to save you the frustration of getting the game and not being able run SH4 on your antiquated video card. That was probably correct info at the time. Usually when someone tries to help out, they don’t get slammed if they are mistaken.

Now, go get the game so you can come back and complain about how badly it runs on your video card :smug:

[Gizzmoe]

Now, go get the game so you can come back and complain about how badly it runs on your video card :smug:

:lol:

[Takeda Shingen]

All I know is that I am waiting for my new system to arrive and the game box is sitting improperly on my desk. I wanted it to fit neatly on my stack of books, but it is sliding around far too much. I want my money back.

[John Channing]

All I know is that I am waiting for my new system to arrive and the game box is sitting improperly on my desk. I wanted it to fit neatly on my stack of books, but it is sliding around far too much. I want my money back.

Probably it is off-balance due to all of the bonus materials you got that I didn't.

I would be willing to help you out by taking the bonus materials off your hands!

JCC

[Onkel Neal]

All I know is that I am waiting for my new system to arrive and the game box is sitting improperly on my desk. I wanted it to fit neatly on my stack of books, but it is sliding around far too much. I want my money back.

Probably it is off-balance due to all of the bonus materials you got that I didn't.

I would be willing to help you out by taking the bonus materials off your hands!

JCC

I can help you with this, check your PMs

[Kruger]

Fred....I've got a Leadtek 6800GT 256/256. Is my game playable ? YES. Am I happy how it runs ? NO.

Playable may very well mean low details, 20 fps. Well...can anybody say it's not playable ? NO. Does it suck ? YES. ;)

[Rykaird]

Doctor: I'm sorry, but we'll have to amputate.

Fred: OK.

Doctor: Wait a minute! Great news! There was a minor error in the lab work. No reason to amputate after all!

Fred: LIAR!!!!! I asked if I could keep my arm and I was told unequivocally, positively, absolutely no way!!! Now lo and behold I get to keep it! You bastage!!

[mookiemookie]

Be that as it may, I think I do have the right to be a little angry at people telling me catagorically that the game would not work at all, then finding out diffirently.
You asked for free advice from the oh-so-reliable Internet and were told wrong. This does not come as a shock to me. :roll:

Not only were you told wrong, you were told wrong and cost you no money, no wasted time, and in the end, NOTHING except being pleasantly surprised. I fail to see how this is a problem. :88)