Death everywhere

[STEED]

Yes it's the old one again where two thirds of the crew snuff it and the rest crap themselves and why?

IXD2 turm is damaged and well you know the rest, twice this has happen in my last two patrols. :huh:

Is there a fix to this bloody pain in the ar*e. :damn:

[GT182]

The only fix I know of Steed is to not use fatigue. At least that's what I think you're referring too. Right?

I don't use it and have not had the crew do as you have said. They be just like my trusty 'ol Timex. "Takes a licking and keeps on ticking." ;)

[STEED]

No it's not that. The problem is when I'm under the water and the turm gets hits on surfacing the crew start to drop like flies.


No fatigue for me and the boys we are on pep pills.

[d@rk51d3]

Nah, I've had the same problem with no fatigue turned on too. Engage a convoy, wreak some havok, sneak away, surafce to reload the external torps and suddenly 60% of your men die instantly, and the rest go into a coma and aint worth a pinch of......:damn: .

[GT182]

Ok, gotchya on that. No idea if there's a fix or not. Sorry I couldn't help, but I 've never seen it with using no fatigue. They're always perky and ready to go. ;)

[HW3]

He is refering to a damaged/destroyed conning tower, and as soon as you surface, the watch crew try to man it and are killed instantly. The sim automatically replaces the dead crew, and those men also die instantly. As far as I know there is no fix.

[STEED]

He is refering to a damaged/destroyed conning tower, and as soon as you surface, the watch crew try to man it and are killed instantly. The sim automatically replaces the dead crew, and those men also die instantly. As far as I know there is no fix.

Spot on.

Crud no fix. (yet)

Just out of interest this happen with turm MK3 does it happen to the other tums? I must admit I have not noticed this on the MK1/2 turms.

[STEED]

It's happen again and I am sick of this bitch of a bug.:mad:

Thats it. I will never sail in a IXD2 ever again as long as this stinking bug remains in the game, yes I am thumping mad. :mad: :mad: :mad:

I am punching the wall. :damn: :hulk: :hulk: :hulk: :damn:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Amazing... I learn something new every time I visit here.

I will put it on our list of stuff to investigate. I didn't even know this was an issue in SH3.

[Lzs von swe]

STEED, I have never used that boat so I don´t know, but is the deck gun also destroyed? Would it be possible to man that to stop the killing? Then again the weather would be to bad, naturally:damn:
And don´t hit the walls, it only hurts, I know:arrgh!:

[bigboywooly]

The flack and DG are normally OK
I put a man in there to stop the watch crew but normally you have lost a third of your crew by the time you realise

Have already asked Ref to take a look Kpt
Seems only the IXD2 affected

[STEED]

The flack and DG are normally OK
I put a man in there to stop the watch crew but normally you have lost a third of your crew by the time you realise

Have already asked Ref to take a look Kpt
Seems only the IXD2 affected

I wish you GWX guys good luck if you can sort this problem out. :yep:

[Rubini]

The first possible workaround could be to make that tower indestructible until we find a fix.:hmm:


Can someone point to me what exactly turm (tower) is?. Or this also happens in others towers too?

Odd.:-?

[STEED]

The first possible workaround could be to make that tower indestructible until we find a fix.:hmm:


Can someone point to me what exactly turm (tower) is?. Or this also happens in others towers too?

Odd.:-?

I know for a fact the IX3 is the troublesome one, tomorrow I will run a couple of careers with the others and make a note of the results.

[Rubini]

That´s ok!

Put yours results. I´m sure that we will fix it.;)

The first possible workaround could be to make that tower indestructible until we find a fix.:hmm:


Can someone point to me what exactly turm (tower) is?. Or this also happens in others towers too?

Odd.:-?

I know for a fact the IX3 is the troublesome one, tomorrow I will run a couple of careers with the others and make a note of the results.

[GT182]

Thanks HW for the info. Haven't seen that yet, but then again I dive deep so it doesn't get damaged. When I come up to load from external I make sure there's no enemy around. And too, I'm only using the IXB. Haven't gotten to date IXD2 is available yet. ;)

Steed don't let those enemy destoyers ram or DC you. Run Forrest, run. ;)

[chris]

The first possible workaround could be to make that tower indestructible until we find a fix.:hmm:


Can someone point to me what exactly turm (tower) is?. Or this also happens in others towers too?

Odd.:-?
I know for a fact the IX3 is the troublesome one, tomorrow I will run a couple of careers with the others and make a note of the results.

Hello Steed,
did you got the results? I´am also interessted in finding a solution because of having the same problems.

[STEED]

[quote=STEED]Hello Steed,
did you got the results? I´am also interessted in finding a solution because of having the same problems.

No not yet. All I can say the tests are on going, results so far damaged IX3 Turm looks good but trying to get it destroyed without killing me is another matter, I have been trying out ramming a ship with the turm sticking out the water a bit.

These tests are giving me a headache but I shall continual and try and get the result.

[shadow701]

I've been having the exact same problem. It happens when the watch tower itself takes damage, not the entire conning tower. When you pull up your damage control screen and click on the conning tower, even minor damage to the watch tower will trigger the crew to mass suicide on the tower. It'll wipe out everyone except those manning the helm. If you get a repair team to fix the problem, it'll kill officers instantly and all crew members in the slots beyond the first one to the far left. Sometimes the conning tower won't show any damage on the diagram but if you click on it, there will be a list of damage showing in the report. It happens most often for me with the Type IXD42 and the IX/3 conning tower in career mode from 1943 and on. Probably the easiest way to trigger it is to get strafed by machine gun fire from a PT boat or a plane.

[joea]

I've been having the exact same problem. It happens when the watch tower itself takes damage, not the entire conning tower. When you pull up your damage control screen and click on the conning tower, even minor damage to the watch tower will trigger the crew to mass suicide on the tower.

Seems to be a problem that was not solved in SH4 either, so I read. :nope:

[STEED]

I've been having the exact same problem. It happens when the watch tower itself takes damage, not the entire conning tower. When you pull up your damage control screen and click on the conning tower, even minor damage to the watch tower will trigger the crew to mass suicide on the tower. It'll wipe out everyone except those manning the helm. If you get a repair team to fix the problem, it'll kill officers instantly and all crew members in the slots beyond the first one to the far left. Sometimes the conning tower won't show any damage on the diagram but if you click on it, there will be a list of damage showing in the report. It happens most often for me with the Type IXD42 and the IX/3 conning tower in career mode from 1943 and on. Probably the easiest way to trigger it is to get strafed by machine gun fire from a PT boat or a plane.

Try telling the Allies to be helpful with my tests. :rotfl:

The only thing so far is when the IX3 Turm is damaged all is OK, as you all know I am trying to get it destroyed without me going splat.

PS: Welcome on board. :up:
PPS: The mod I am trying is on behalf of a fellow captain here. Who created it.

[Webchessie]

So that's what keeps killing me when I surface in my IXC/40 in 1944 with damage! After taking a beating for hours, I finally get away and surface to make repairs. Next thing I know is "oh my God" and everyone dies!

[STEED]

So that's what keeps killing me when I surface in my IXC/40 in 1944 with damage! After taking a beating for hours, I finally get away and surface to make repairs. Next thing I know is "oh my God" and everyone dies!

Strange as this bug is only known to be with the IXD2 boat. :hmm:

[chris]

So that's what keeps killing me when I surface in my IXC/40 in 1944 with damage! After taking a beating for hours, I finally get away and surface to make repairs. Next thing I know is "oh my God" and everyone dies!
Strange as this bug is only known to be with the IXD2 boat. :hmm:


Does anybody know, whether this also takes place with a IXB and IX/3 tower?
By the way: I put an VIIC/3 tower on my IXD2 and got no problems like this.

[shegeek72]

Ahoy, shadow701! Welcome to the forum, herr kaleun! :up: :yep:
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http://tarafoundation.org/sh3_U100.jpg

[shadow701]

Thanks for the welcome wagon. I've been lurking in the depths for quite some time and finally decided to surface.;)
Just an update to this problem, I've been able to get the same "death everywhere" problem to kick up with the IXB/IX3 combination. I went deep into the game files and changed the availabilty dates of the upgrades so I was able to get a fully equipped type IX in early '40. Then it was off to play chicken with destroyers. I get their attention and then charge at them at flank speed, surfaced, and deck gun blazing. (NOT recommended if you plan on having a long career:damn: ) After multiple tries, the destroyer finally lands the right hit. Boom! "Watchtower is damaged, sir!" is filling up my message box as fast as it can be printed out on the screen. Check the damage diagram, click on the conning tower, and there it is, minor damage to the watchtower. (by this time, at least half of the crew has already gone up to suicide) For the sake of testing, I gave the conning tower 8000 hit points and gave the crewmen an equally ridiculous amount of hitpoints.:nope: Didn't make a difference, when the destroyer lands the right shot, it's all over.
I'm leaning more towards the problem lying with the IX3 tower, not which sub type it's on. This was done with a fresh install of SHIII, patched, and GWX 1.03 with latest patches. So, I was able to achieve the same result, but still haven't found a fix or workaround aside from not using the IX3 tower.

[filefool]

By the way: I put an VIIC/3 tower on my IXD2 and got no problems like this.

Well that certainly must look weird. A VII conning tower on a type IX... ;)

[mskvforester]

Damn. Happened to me. I'm in 10th Flotilla, its late '43, and Im about to go to Penang. The only mod I run is GWX (1.03). I'm in a IX/D2, with a IX/3 watchtower. The watchtower took damage as I was playing chicken with a Hunt 2. It seems to me, that the problem is that the game is not recognizing the damge to the watchtower. It keeps repeating the message over and over, so when u surface, it kills the crew that automatically go topside, and when they die, and are automatically sent to one of the compartments, four more lemmings run up to be killed, etc., etc., etc. Any ideas, besides not ever getting my watchtower damgeed. By the way its not the flak section. that was damaged, and did nto trigger the bug.

Mike

[u-168]

Yes it's the old one again where two thirds of the crew snuff it and the rest crap themselves and why?

IXD2 turm is damaged and well you know the rest, twice this has happen in my last two patrols. :huh:

Is there a fix to this bloody pain in the ar*e. :damn:


If you think this is bad every time i start my career,
I sit in the command room and every thing goes black and all the gauges blow out and the lights flicker.:shifty:

[Captain Nemo]

If you think this is bad every time i start my career,
I sit in the command room and every thing goes black and all the gauges blow out and the lights flicker.:shifty:

If your u-boat has taken damage during a patrol this will happen every time you load up a saved game. In my experience its nothing to worry about. The other bug mentioned in this thread is though. Has any progress been made on a possible solution or is it something that cannot be cured without an official patch from Ubi?

Nemo

[Mush Martin]

The first possible workaround could be to make that tower indestructible until we find a fix.:hmm:


Can someone point to me what exactly turm (tower) is?. Or this also happens in others towers too?

Odd.:-?

You know Steed thats not a bad suggestion , just Up armour the turm a
bit to make it a little more resistant to damage, this wont affect your hull
and if the game is killing your crew unfairly then why should the fix be fair.
not indestructable just resistant.

[CapZap1970]

Hello my fellow kaleuns...
I am bringing this thread back to live to see if anybody has found a solution or a workaround for this pesky bug yet.
Any ideas, thoughts or solutions yet?
Thanks a lot :up:
CapZap

[STEED]

I can not say what the results are.

Sorry under orders.

[von Zelda]

Has anyone found a solution to this problem? Any solution coming in GWX 1.04?

I just tried a IXD2 for the first time. Received damage from aircraft which resulted in the turm of death.

[brotebjo]

Try this,

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122173

[5string74]

Hello mates.

I have had the same problem (mass suicide) with the IXB and IXC boats.
When they all start streaming up to the deck to their deaths, I hit the save button before they are all gone and restart from the previous save.

5string74

[bigboywooly]

Hello mates.

I have had the same problem (mass suicide) with the IXB and IXC boats.
When they all start streaming up to the deck to their deaths, I hit the save button before they are all gone and restart from the previous save.

5string74

The post above yours gives a link
In that thread is

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=647232&postcount=13

[von Zelda]

Downloaded the turm fix and will install. It appears to be correcting one zon file (IIRC) for the IXC with turm 3.

Is this the only turm or zon file that needed fixing? The u-boat that I had was a IXD2 with turm 2, if I'm not mistaken. And I've read some other posts that seemed to have type VIIs.

Will all of this be corrected in GWX 1.04?

[JU_88]

IXD2 is a coffin with a periscope, every time i take one out for spin... I never make it home :-?

[baggygreen]

Everyone keeps mentioning a mass suicide...

I wonder if this is because the crew suddenly decides they'd rather die quickly than have to live another day under you vicious, savage and cruel captains!

thats what it is!!!!!:yep:

[magicsub]

you have been hit by


THE CONNING TOWER OF DOOM (ADD as many exclamation marks as you want.):rotfl:

[wildchild]

hay steed try this

put it in your jsgme


http://dodownload.filefront.com/9917971//79fee0be2a7bd96cb6fad1f07cbcaa3313d4a65d4ddb9d4f46 43e692e6981eee87ab3603b50f7385

[Kpt. Lehmann]

:88)

NECRO THREAD!

Already fixed in GWX ages ago.

Die thread die!

[STEED]

:88)

NECRO THREAD!

Already fixed in GWX ages ago.

Die thread die!

I have to agree, come on folks put this thread back to bed with a nice cup of coffee and a bottle of sleeping pills.