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melin71
03-18-07, 01:46 PM
I saw a video..and i cant find it again. there the people made the silent hunter 4 show stuff in the game. and one is showing a attack with the pericsop..and he just guessed what the AOB was...are the or are the not any tool to get the angel of bow in this new game. it was missed in sh3 but a mod did fix that. but you that have the game..how is it with this?

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03-18-07, 02:03 PM
I know in WW2, the sub captains estimated AOB. Are you speaking of a tool like the Stadimeter station in Dangerous Waters?
sorry, I wish I could help more.

NefariousKoel
03-18-07, 02:16 PM
Dunno..

I usually noted numerous locations over a few minutes to get their heading, lined up a shot ahead of the target and measured the AoB from where it would be sitting when I fire.

melin71
03-18-07, 02:20 PM
ok. so i have to guess in sh4...... and im very very very bad at that :D

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03-19-07, 01:29 PM
Start doing AOB with cars and stuff. That's what Richard O'Kane did.

Threadfin
03-19-07, 02:14 PM
Start doing AOB with cars and stuff. That's what Richard O'Kane did.
Don't recall that, where did you see it? What he did as far as I know was have someone make a lazy susan type device upon which was affixed a ship model with graduated AoB markings on the base. He then sat and and looked at that model through his binocluars and practiced estimating the AoB as another crewman turned the model.

And yes, US skippers 'called' the AoB, meaning estimated by visual observation. That's what I always did in SH3, so am ready to do so in SH4.

An easy way to do it is to think of yourself on the bridge of the target, looking at the sub. What angle off the bow is the sub? That is the AoB.

nattydread
03-19-07, 11:43 PM
Yeah, practice, practice, practice. You'll get good at it real quick. One thing I have noticed is that often times games have a problem accuratly displaying 3D models for really good AoB estimates until the object is up close and in high detail.

I dont know if its a dynamic shading issue or what, but I get issues with the object looking as if it could be both coming and going until its close and drawn in high detail....maybe its just me

OneTinSoldier
03-20-07, 02:49 AM
Yeah, I have the same problem nattydread, exactly the same. I was hoping that the higher detailed ships in SHIV with bump mapping might help, but I canceled my Amazon.com pre-order.

I'm a little upset with what seems to be a deceptive claim of 'higher resolutions'(above 1024x768). Perhaps if and when I calm down about that I might change my mind, but for right now I feel I can't trust them(Ubi/Devs) at all.

Threadfin
03-20-07, 09:36 AM
I think that 'coming or going' phenomenon is just natural for a silhouetted object.

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03-20-07, 12:00 PM
The book that O'Kane used to practice AoB is "Wahoo."
I think he's in one of the Australian bases.

-Pv-
03-20-07, 11:27 PM
On top of trying to guess the angle based on observation, the camo paint was purposely designed to try and fool a person into guessing the wrong angle or wrong size of the ship. If you guess wrong once in a while, then that validates the accuracy of the sim.
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OneTinSoldier
03-21-07, 12:52 AM
Ohhh! That is very interesting and good to know -Pv-. Thank you! :up: