translation of dive sequence in GWX

[shegeek72]

What is the crew saying (German) during the dive sequence in GWX?

I found out what happens when one of your helmsman gets too tired, at least in my case, the sub did 360s. Took me a few seconds at 8x time compression to figure out why the sub was going in circles. :doh: :hmm:
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[Dowly]

Havent watched Das Boot in a looong time so cant remember exactly. But with my very limited german knowledge it goes something like:

Diving stations. Flood tanks (not sure about this). All something (pumps?) clear. And the last line is (IIRC from Das Boot) Bow (planes) down 10 degrees. ;)

Oh, and that is, if GWX 1.02 has the same sound as the stock GWX has.

[SquareSteelBar]

1. Auf Tauchstationen <-> On diving stations
2. Untertriebszelle wird geflutet* <-> .... is flooded [dunno how to translate 'Untertriebszelle']
3. Alle Entlüftungen sind klar <-> Air-bleed ducts OK
4. Vorne unten 15, hinten oben 10** <-> Bow planes down 15deg, stern planes up 10deg

*I think that's not correct: the 'Untertriebszelle' has always to be flooded whilst the boat is surfaced [for faster diving]
** another incorrection: it should be vice versa for diving: bow planes up, stern planes down

SSB

[Zinmar]

Speaking of translations. I am working on a video about Operation Drumbeat. I have an audio file that is supposedly from Jan 24th 1942 talking about the wolfs headed to America. Could someone possibly translate this for me so I can write the text for it on the screen?

[Penelope_Grey]

** another incorrection: it should be vice versa for diving: bow planes up, stern planes down

SSB

No, its the other way about innit? You want the bow to point downwards, so the bow planes are angled down. You want the stern to point up so the stern planesare angled up.

[SquareSteelBar]

No, its the other way about innit? You want the bow to point downwards, so the bow planes are angled down. You want the stern to point up so the stern planesare angled up. http://img115.exs.cx/img115/8895/signquestion3xd.gif

[Cheapskate]

No, its the other way about innit? You want the bow to point downwards, so the bow planes are angled down. You want the stern to point up so the stern planesare angled up. http://img115.exs.cx/img115/8895/signquestion3xd.gif

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See http://www.heiszwolf.com/subs/tech/tech01.html#Model%20Submarine%20Dive

[Iron Budokan]

As far as your sub going in circles, this is a stock bug in the game. If you set two of your waypoints at too acute an angle your sub gets confuzzled and spins around and around and around and around and around and.....

[Schultzy]

I don't use GWX but if it's the one from Das Boot, then:

1. Auf Tauchstationen: Diving stations.
2. Untertriebszelle wird geflutet: Flooding ballast tanks.
3. Alle Entlüftungen sind klar: All air vents are clear.
4. Vorne unten 15, hinten oben 10: Bow planes down 15deg, stern planes up 10deg

[shegeek72]

As far as your sub going in circles, this is a stock bug in the game. If you set two of your waypoints at too acute an angle your sub gets confuzzled and spins around and around and around and around and around and.....
So it was just a coincidence that one of my helmsman had the exclamation next to him? Has anyone tried letting the three dudes health go next to nothing to see what happened? :hmm:
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[Dowly]

I would guess, that the when all three helmsmen are exhausted, they wont obey the orders. You cant turn, dive etc.

[Woof1701]

1. Auf Tauchstationen <-> On diving stations
2. Untertriebszelle wird geflutet* <-> .... is flooded [dunno how to translate 'Untertriebszelle']
3. Alle Entlüftungen sind klar <-> Air-bleed ducts OK
4. Vorne unten 15, hinten oben 10** <-> Bow planes down 15deg, stern planes up 10deg

*I think that's not correct: the 'Untertriebszelle' has always to be flooded whilst the boat is surfaced [for faster diving]
** another incorrection: it should be vice versa for diving: bow planes up, stern planes down

SSB

As far as I can here he only says "Untertriebszelle geflutet" which would mean it already IS flooded and he's giving a situation report.

[Steppenwolf]

So it was just a coincidence that one of my helmsman had the exclamation next to him? Has anyone tried letting the three dudes health go next to nothing to see what happened? :hmm:

Probably just a coincidence. There have been several threads on this subject and the consensus seems to be that the Helmsman qualification (having the green bar in the control room higher or lower) does absolutely nothing. See this thread as an example:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105322&highlight=helmsman+qualification

I've had everyone in the control room completely exhausted (with the bar quite low) and it made no difference to turning rates, dive times or anything else that I could see.

[Zinmar]

Is there anyone willing to translate that audio fiile for me?

[SquareSteelBar]

...2. Untertriebszelle wird geflutet: Flooding ballast tanks... Hi Schultzy,

the 'Untertriebszelle' is not identic to the ballast tanks. The 'Untertriebszelle' is for decreasing the positive buoyancy. It's always flooded while the boat is surfaced for faster diving.
After diving it's blown [for faster surfacing].
The 'Untertriebszelle' generally is needed to handle [fine tune] the buoyancy behavior of the boat.

SSB

[d@rk51d3]

As far as your sub going in circles, this is a stock bug in the game. If you set two of your waypoints at too acute an angle your sub gets confuzzled and spins around and around and around and around and around and.....
So it was just a coincidence that one of my helmsman had the exclamation next to him? Has anyone tried letting the three dudes health go next to nothing to see what happened? :hmm:




When my guys get that tired, things get weird. The boat goes all over the place and won't maintain a heading, and maintaining depth is impossible too. They either send you on a crash course for the bottom, or pop you up in front of an escort...... who then promptly sends you on a crash course for the bottom.

[Schultzy]

[quote=Schultzy]

the 'Untertriebszelle' is not identic to the ballast tanks. The 'Untertriebszelle' is for decreasing the positive buoyancy. It's always flooded while the boat is surfaced for faster diving.
After diving it's blown [for faster surfacing].
The 'Untertriebszelle' generally is needed to handle [fine tune] the buoyancy behavior of the boat.

SSB


I have to be honest and admit that my nautical technical terminology isn't the best. :oops:
I know Ballast tanks are usually Tauchzellen, so i just assumed it was just some tech babble for the same thing.
But i've done a google search and you're right. So thanks for the info! :up:

From Wiki: Aufgabe der Untertriebszellen war es das Gewicht des U-Boots so schnell wie möglich zu vergrößern, um schnellere Alarmtauchzeiten zu erreichen. Diese betrugen bei Kampfbooten im Zweiten Weltkrieg teilweise weniger als 30 Sekunden. Bei der Fahrt Überwasser sind die Untertriebszellen mit Wasser gefüllt. Erst wenn das U-Boot völlig getaucht ist, werden die Untertriebszellen ausgedrückt (gelenzt). Da sie keinem großen Wasserdruck ausgesetzt werden konnten und damit das U-Boot auch nicht zu schnell durchsackte, mussten sie, nachdem das Boot unter der Wasseroberfläche verschwand, wieder angeblasen werden.

Not sure how to translate it to english though, apart from ballast tank, but you're correct, not quite right.

[shegeek72]

When my guys get that tired, things get weird. The boat goes all over the place and won't maintain a heading, and maintaining depth is impossible too. They either send you on a crash course for the bottom, or pop you up in front of an escort...... who then promptly sends you on a crash course for the bottom.

Then the circles my sub was making could've been due to low health. Because, IIRC, my waypoints weren't at acute angles.

As for low health not having any effect, I heard the watch crew does not suffer even if they're half-dead. Though I haven't done any tests to prove this. :hmm:
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[shegeek72]

4. Vorne unten 15, hinten oben 10: Bow planes down 15deg, stern planes up 10deg
If that's correct my helmsmen aren't following orders since they pin the needles during a normal dive (I believe the guages max at 30 degrees in a type VII). :shifty:

Could the guages be modded to reflect the correct dive planes angles during a normal dive and crash dive?
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[Skinman]

[quote=SquareSteelBar]Not sure how to translate it to english though, apart from ballast tank, but you're correct, not quite right.

It's a special, rather huge ballast tank below the control room which was used to speed up crash dives. It could not take a lot of pressure though, I think because it was inside the actual pressure hull. So it had to be blown again not soon after the boat was fully submerged, or else it would burst inward at a rather shallow depth. Still searching for a proper English term. Google calls it 'negative buoyancy cell' but I'm not sure about that. Some subtitles to 'Das Boot' call it 'main dive tank'.