300

[Doc1234]

Whose going to go see 300, or who has seen it already? looks cool

[ASWnut101]

What's 300? A movie?

[Doc1234]

It is a movie about the Greeks and the Persians fighting, See the link below. Looks cool
http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/

[kiwi_2005]

Yep i will be going to see it or wait for it to come out on dvd as i prefer the comfort of my home than a cinema. Theirs going to be some cool battle scenes no doubt.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

GOOD MOVIE SEE IT EXCELLENT :up::up::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

[Bort]

From the previews I have seen, it looks a bit heavy on the CGI stuff.:roll:

[Torplexed]

Don't look for too much historical authenticity. Most of the soldiers look like they're wearing speedos instead of armour. All of the Persians sound like James Earl Jones doing his Darth Vader bit.

[Doc1234]

I agree, I would not expect too much historical accuracy from a film,,,just entertainment :lol:

[Tchocky]

From the previews I have seen, it looks a bit heavy on the CGI stuff.:roll:

It's all CGI. Zack Snyder was trying to recreate the style and feel of the graphic novel, it's really a shot-for-panel production. I can't wait to see it

[melnibonian]

Don't look for too much historical authenticity. Most of the soldiers look like they're wearing speedos instead of armour. All of the Persians sound like James Earl Jones doing his Darth Vader bit.

I haven't seen the movie but I don't really expect historical authenticity. Unfortunatelly Hollywood has something against history and cannot make an historical accurate movie. The worst of them in my opinion was Troy by the way.

[Takeda Shingen]

Don't look for too much historical authenticity. Most of the soldiers look like they're wearing speedos instead of armour. All of the Persians sound like James Earl Jones doing his Darth Vader bit.


Well, the Spartans would have fought entirely in the nude, so I am not sure about how much historical accuracy I would be seeking in this case. Anyway, as I understand it, this is based on a comic book series. As such, the director would probably hold true to the fantasy elements found therein.

[STEED]

Typical CGI Hollywood film which will have over the top CGI along with dull acting and a basic or no real story line.

As a film critic once said, "A film for the brain dead or people who do not want to think too much."

[Doc1234]

Hey,

That sounds like it might be fun to take a a few hours off and not have to think too much lol

[Tchocky]

Typical CGI Hollywood film which will have over the top CGI along with dull acting and a basic or no real story line.

As a film critic once said, "A film for the brain dead or people who do not want to think too much."

It's hardly "typical Hollywood". It's less of a comic adaptation than each panel being represented on screen, with the in-betwen action filled in. It looks the way it does because of the comic's colour and style. Very much like Sin City, which is also based on Frank Miller's work. CGI is used because it gives the closest possible approximation to the look and feel of the comic

[melnibonian]

Well, the Spartans would have fought entirely in the nude, so I am not sure about how much historical accuracy I would be seeking in this case.
Actually ancient Greeks used to wear armour in their battles. They had a number of light armed troops called πελτασταί that were used to probe the enemy lines. They were using slings and light spears and were not wearing armour. The "normal" troops called Hoplites (ὁπλίτης) were heavily armed with breastplates, helmets and greaves. The Spartan especially were particularly heavily armed and were famous for thier scarlet cloaks.

[blue3golf]

Went yesterday to see it and its sold out for the next couple days, they're slowly killing me.:damn:

[Doc1234]

Saw the movie yesterday in IMAX format. Awesome movie. Not an Oscar winner by any means just pure entertainment. It was like watching a live action comic book.

[STEED]

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

[blue3golf]

Finally got to see it today, first movie I've seen in a couple years where I wasn't concentrating on how uncomfortable my seat is, even if it isn't accurate still a damn good movie. Entertaining which is what it is supposed to be.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Entertaining which is what it is supposed to be.

Movies where you can just go, be entertained are good things:up: Probably will see this as well.

[Venatore]

Seen it last night. Loved every minute of it. I really like that girl who did that body dance :o

[kiwi_2005]

yeah great movie, same director of SinCity which was also a great movie.

[Platapus]

The movie is based on a comic book. I hear that the movie is very faithful to the comic book. It was never intended as a historically accurate protrayal of the events of 480 BC

If you are at all interested in what really happened, check out

Paul Cartledge "Thermopylae, the battle that changed the world" although he even recognizes that the battle really did not change the world, just a small part of it :)

Bradford also wrote a book on Thermopylae but I did not enjoy at as much as the Cartledge book.

[stabiz]

Really cool movie, but the real story is even cooler so I dont get why they changed some parts of it.


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Like the fact that King Leonaides(?) didnt die last, but his men and the Persians fought over the body in the end. Epic.

[GlobalExplorer]

Hollywood keeps surprising me. Whenever you think it cant get any worse, they manage to reach a new low.

The esthetics resembles Leni Riefenstahl's movies, while just being completely without a point.

[joea]

Amazing, such diverging opnions you'd think you were all talking about different films.

[P_Funk]

I loved this movie. I know it isn't historically accurate but I see it as being an epic tale as told the way a greek would have told it. If you notice stories like the Odyssey are based on true events but are extensively embellished with mythylogical creatures and massive battles so that they are more inspiring and exiting.

I see this movie as being an embellishment of the story of Thermopylae in the style that you would see in ancient Greece. Anyone who's seen it can't deny that its a powerful film at moments. There was that one scene where Leonides was looking over the battlefield with a powerful look in his eyes like tears nearly. Its not about history as much as the power of story.

I loved it. But I also love my Greek History textbooks that give me the dry details.

I can enjoy both, and I don't see the need to be either a brain dead moron, or an intellectual pruist.

[Platapus]

Amazing, such diverging opnions you'd think you were all talking about different films.

Or talking about the same movie from different perspectives :)

[Gizzmoe]

The esthetics resembles Leni Riefenstahl's movies, while just being completely without a point.

I totally agree. And I´ve enjoyed every single minute, it´s great popcorn cinema. :)

[melnibonian]

I saw it a few weeks ago and it was a waste of time. I feel it was worse than Pearl Harbour and let's be honest it can't really get worse than that. Although the comic is good and the movie was close to it the transfer to the big screen was problematic. The characters were 2D without any depth and the whole movie was really boring. Unfortunatelly what works on paper does not work on the big screen every time.

[P_Funk]

I saw it a few weeks ago and it was a waste of time. I feel it was worse than Pearl Harbour and let's be honest it can't really get worse than that. Although the comic is good and the movie was close to it the transfer to the big screen was problematic. The characters were 2D without any depth and the whole movie was really boring. Unfortunatelly what works on paper does not work on the big screen every time.
In your opinion.:yep:

WHy do people around here always forget that necessary qualifier?;)

[melnibonian]

In your opinion.:yep:

WHy do people around here always forget that necessary qualifier?;)
Of course :yep: Everything I wrote was just my opinion. I do understand that with movies and stuff there will always be some who don't really like the final product. This time it's me ;) :oops: :D

[P_Funk]

In your opinion.:yep:

WHy do people around here always forget that necessary qualifier?;) Of course :yep: Everything I wrote was just my opinion. I do understand that with movies and stuff there will always be some who don't really like the final product. This time it's me ;) :oops: :D
Definitely. Its like I don't like Rent. Only I don't dare tell the cute girls that love it.

I suppose its the same when they fix a faux smile when I mention Apocalypse Now.:hmm:

[U-533]

I havn't seen it yet ...

When I do it will be for ENTERTAINMENT not education...

If I were to be educated by Hollywood Movies I would be...

1. Homosexual

2. Perverted

3. Prone to believe anything to further my chosen life style

4. Able to come back from the dead when ever I needed to

5. Murderous

6. Vengeful (I have a streak of that anyway ... I don't need help)

7. Adulterous

8. Dishonest

9. Easily swayed

10. Forced to except all people who are the above

:sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

[melnibonian]

The esthetics resembles Leni Riefenstahl's movies, while just being completely without a point.
Actually this is really interesting. I had the same opinion when I saw the movie. It looked to me like a Nazi-Propaganda one.

[CCIP]

Is that surprising though? I mean, you can't blame it for the fact that it happens to emphasize the same ideals of war, epic [nationalist] pride and masculinity as the Nazis thrived on :hmm:

[waste gate]

Is this a movie (film)?

Should the topic be moved to the Sub & Naval Books, Films, and Models (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=186) forum??

[CCIP]

Well it ain't Sub & Naval, that's for sure :doh:

[waste gate]

Well it ain't Sub & Naval, that's for sure :doh:

The only reason for my post was that last week I posted a film thread (Ice Station Zebra) and it was moved to the other board (by whom, I don't know).

I certainly don't want to be the Subsim police, but I recently received a FYI about 'misbehavior' and if I have to live up to a certain standard it is only fair that everyone else does the same. Don't ya think?

[CCIP]

But AFAIK Ice Station Zebra has a nuke sub, while this one has a bunch of angry Spartans, and not a naval unit in sight :p

I think it's fine off here in General Discussion. It's all fine points, really; I'd say the moving is all because we're a naval forum and there's specific sections for films relating to that - I wouldn't go making that section a general movie discussion, though!

[P_Funk]

Is that surprising though? I mean, you can't blame it for the fact that it happens to emphasize the same ideals of war, epic [nationalist] pride and masculinity as the Nazis thrived on :hmm:
Indeed, the Nazis took heavily from history their emphasis on nationalist pride. Plus the world was different back then. Ethnic lines really did divide people. And certainly whether you see this film as an interpretation of Spartan culture at the time (not my take) or as a representation of the exaggerated style of story telling inherent in Classical times (my take), making absurd comparisons to Naziism and the Jews and the like is just trying to create an issue where there is none.

[melnibonian]

Is that surprising though? I mean, you can't blame it for the fact that it happens to emphasize the same ideals of war, epic [nationalist] pride and masculinity as the Nazis thrived on :hmm:
I think the Nazis and other propagandists chose the elements they liked and conviniently forgot those that could cause trouble for their ideas. In any case I will not say anything more as this dicussion needs a thread of it's own ;) :D

[P_Funk]

In any case I will not say anything more as this dicussion needs a thread of it's own ;) :D You've got that bloody right. And I don't know if I'd want to be involved in that one.:huh:

[Respenus]

It was what it was ment to be, entertaiment. If you don't look at history, it was a decent movie, it kept me firm on the seat.

[GlobalExplorer]

The esthetics resembles Leni Riefenstahl's movies, while just being completely without a point.
Actually this is really interesting. I had the same opinion when I saw the movie. It looked to me like a Nazi-Propaganda one.

1933 this style was politic, today I would say: Kitsch

[CCIP]

I think that's fair to say. Isn't the entire comic book style based on kitsch aesthetics? :hmm:

[melnibonian]

1933 this style was politic, today I would say: Kitsch
True :yep: Thank God for that ;) :yep:

[Wxman]

Its a science fiction/fantasy type-movie. It has excellent special CGI graphics.

Don't think that its in any way respectable in any intellectual sense compared to the recent Hollywood production of the Illiad. I'm certain that people that like "300" will also like "Eragon"

I will say this: you will learn more by watching Hollywoods recent "Illyiad" production, rather than 300. That's because the former is an adaptation of the original literary work. If you know one or the other, then you'll go "Hmmmmm" by reading the other; the same is not true watching "300".

I believe that either is a "primer" for the latter, and the two in conjunction are synergistic; "300" has nothing but shock value and excellent bloody-CGI going for it.