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NiKuTa
03-01-07, 08:18 AM
From first day of usage GWX mod I have some strange impression that AI (destoryers, merchants) have too good eyes. Visual in GWX is too goot for AI. I had good example today. My crew on tower say "Visual contact ..." and I have been hit in same moment. My crew have 100 %eEfficiency. Screen:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8773/sh3img132007134815593wo8.jpg

In GWX is very hart to follow a ships. They look out you very often, but i see them very slightly. In night is very hard to enter in to enemy convoy. When is fog enemy see you when you see them :(.

Dowly
03-01-07, 08:53 AM
I think it has been covered in the manual. The shipīs spotter is higher than you, so he can see more over the horizon than you can, also the shipīs spotter has better binocs than you. :up:

NiKuTa
03-01-07, 09:20 AM
Oki but the Uboat was very small and hard to spot. Uboat dont smoke. Ubout should spot enemy before enemy spot Uboat.

Dowly
03-01-07, 09:40 AM
Thatīs why the spotters knew what they were doing. On a sunny day, the wake of a uboat & the bow wakes etc. reflected the sun like a mirror.

difool2
03-01-07, 11:22 AM
Check this thread out: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104681

Keep in mind that it is a definite work in progress.

ref
03-01-07, 11:24 AM
Oki but the Uboat was very small...

Everyone keeps saying that the U-boats are small, they aren't small, they are smaller than a ship, we're talking of a rectangle of about 1 meter high with a 4 meters tower protruding from the middle and 70+ meters in the case of the IXC...
Sure they were harder to spot than a ship, but they weren't invisible, add to that the wake produced by it to keep pace with the convoy and you increase the chance to be spotted.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3476/viictr0.jpg


http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8727/ixcpx1.jpg

Here in Mar del Plata is based the submarine force of my country, In the 70s/80s we still had a couple of operational Balao class subs, and I remember spotting them leaving port on a clear day and calm sea from a distance of at least 3 km with my naked eyes, they are larger than the german subs, but not that much.

Ref

Steppenwolf
03-01-07, 11:35 AM
Also, don't forget that in GWX, you can run with "decks awash" when stalking/attacking a ship/convoy.

In a type VII, ( which usually runs at a depth of 5 meters when surfaced ). If you set the depth to 6 meters you will run with decks slightly awash. Your speed and fuel efficiency will drop to about 82% of normal, but you will be harder to see and can still man the deck gun. You can also set the depth to 7 meters to run with the decks heavily awash (pretty much just the conning tower out of the water). Your speed and fuel efficiency will drop to about 75% of normal, but you are even more difficult to spot.

Ducimus
03-01-07, 12:40 PM
NiKuTa,

As a rule of thumb (you'll just have to trust me on this), do not surface during daylight ANYWHERE within 30KM of ANY enemy unit, on a day that is both Clear of fog , and calm in wind. If the waters are flat, and the sky is cloudless without a drop of rain - dive.