RELEASE: u-flak reworked

[U-104]

:o:rock::rock::up::up:

[Sulikate]

looks damn good:arrgh!:

[Myxale]

:o

One day you will change the whole game with new models!:rock:

[sh3rules]

Awesome! :up: :D

[Fender74]

looks great,the more eye candy the better.:cool:

[Venatore]

Excellent.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Looks great:up:

[thefretmaster]

hi i installed this (replaced the guns_sub in the library) and whenever i start a game it sais "flak gun desroyed, deck gun destroyed. what is going on?

[jpm1]

Thanks , a deck gun would be nice too :rock:

[Shepelly]

Nice Mate:up: Now maybe my gunner will have a little pride in his weapon and learn to use it properly:D

I'm sick of patching holes:rotfl:

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Screenes?

[Tuddley3]

Oh my. eye candy is most welocome. Nice work.:up:

[Jimbuna]

It looks nice anyway :yep: :up:

[thefretmaster]

strange... im running vanilla, with only skin mods really. any help would be awesome as these guns look way too cool to miss out on:up:

[OneTinSoldier]

Just checking, but did you return home at dock at your home port, and then exit out of the game prior to installing it? Or have you installed it mid-patrol?

[Anvart]

Stock SH3 - No mods - CTD!
:nope:

[urfisch]

started a career, no problems. dont understand your issues...gonna check the file again tomorrow.

:shifty:

[thefretmaster]

ok cool. i didnt have any ctd's, just messages saying flack and deck guns destroyed. i installed when i was at base. wierd ill try it again

[Myxale]

I just found out, that when using this Flak mod with my NYGM install, all flaks on u-boots go poof!:hmm:

[Makr]

ok cool. i didnt have any ctd's, just messages saying flack and deck guns destroyed. i installed when i was at base. wierd ill try it again

same problem here......running gwx and a few others.

[Madox58]

I'm wondering. Did you correct the index?
Although it seems we may not have to everytime, it is there for a reason.
Perhap the Game Engine accesses it on a need to know fast addressing scheme?
Since a larger or smaller file is implanted, this index is wrong then.
As a precaution, I make a habit of correcting it.

[urfisch]

I'm wondering. Did you correct the index?
Although it seems we may not have to everytime, it is there for a reason.
Perhap the Game Engine accesses it on a need to know fast addressing scheme?
Since a larger or smaller file is implanted, this index is wrong then.
As a precaution, I make a habit of correcting it.

dont know what you mean? which index?

[Kumando]

Didint worked, when it starts loading in the GWX logo goes back to the desktop with an "Sh3 encountered a problem" :-? .

[Alex]

Didint worked, when it starts loading in the GWX logo goes back to the desktop with an "Sh3 encountered a problem" :-? .

Same here.... http://yelims.free.fr/Groumph/Mecontent06.gif



http://yelims.free.fr/Groumph/Peureux02.gif

[Phoenix3000]

Hi, I liked the look if this, so downloaded it.

I installed it at the end of a patrol once back in base. Rolled back SH3 in SH3 Commander, and built a directory stack so I could add it via JSGME.

The game loaded fine, and in base before the mission my sub had guns.

But....

Once it loaded a game and my u-boat (type VIIC) was in dock all guns, including the deck gun had vanished!

I tried it 3 times - manually adding it etc. but still no luck.

I've just seen you have added a new upload, I'll give that a try. But its certainly exhibiting odd behaviour.

Px3000

[Madox58]

@Urfisch, This is from Ref's dat file information.


"type 1001: INDEX
this one seems to be an index, there are chunk ID's and the corresponding file postition, might have to update this if some chunk has its size altered, but some tries suggest this doesnñr affect loading."

Cutting down the Shells and Gun dat files, I went through this INDEX and removed,
and corrected entries as needed.
1st, just to be safe,
2nd, to reduce the file sizes themselves.

It's just a thought at this time.

Another thought, And I haven't looked at the obj files, so I may be off base.
Are the old guns several parts and the New one obj?

Although, if that was the cause, I'd think your install would crash.
It looks to be an ID conflict as far as what I'm reading.

[thefretmaster]

im glad its not just me doing somthing wrong, i have no idea about what to do but good luck to anyone trying and thanks to everyone involved :up:

[urfisch]

dont know why there are ctds...its just a modified barrel and a reworked flak skin inside the guns_sub.dat. and with my installation the new flaks cause no problems. i have installed gwx (last version)...

:hmm:

[Cheapskate]

dont know why there are ctds...its just a modified barrel and a reworked flak skin inside the guns_sub.dat. and with my installation the new flaks cause no problems. i have installed gwx (last version)...

:hmm:

Just retested with my GWX install. Removed each of my mods one by one until only the new guns_sub.dat remained. CTD each time. This was immediate until I removed the "no intro" mod, then I got the intro, but CTD when it tried to load the game proper!!*

Has your guns_sub.dat been modified by anything else you might be running or is it just the standard GWX version with the barrel and skin mod inserted?

* hardly surprising that :88) just mentioned it in case it helped with diagnostics :D

[Madox58]

Give me a link to D/L and I'll take a look at it real quick if you'd like.
the link in post one is dead.

[Madox58]

Right off the bat no version of Pack3d will open this dat file!
And the file size does not match the GWX Guns_Sub.dat file.

GWX my install 8.51 meg
This dat 7.21 meg

[Anvart]

Right off the bat no version of Pack3d will open this dat file!
And the file size does not match the GWX Guns_Sub.dat file.

GWX my install 8.51 meg
This dat 7.21 meg
Yes, because Guns_Sub.dat file with mistakes.
I now shall look this file.
Wait some minutes.

[Anvart]

Right off the bat no version of Pack3d will open this dat file!
And the file size does not match the GWX Guns_Sub.dat file.

GWX my install 8.51 meg
This dat 7.21 meg
Yes, because Guns_Sub.dat file with mistakes.
I now shall look this file.
Wait some minutes.

First mistake.
UFlak_High.tga size of file = 3155772 bytes, but urfisch wrote:
a) in Type 2 (material block) = 786476 bytes;
b) in Type 3 (tga block) = 786450 bytes;
I have written TGA size = 3155772 bytes into blocks Type 2 and Type3, now Pack3D began to load a file.
Next mistake - Type 1 (geometry) is not connected to block Type 4 ...

[Reece]

Great Stuff Urfisch, you said:
i have some kind of workaround. just unpack the copy of guns_sub.dat in the library folder. it was an accident how i found out that this works...deleted the copy of the dat and next time in the game, i had the same mistake as most of you "flak destroyed" and vanished.
Can someone explain what has to be done to get this mod to work, I assume just copy the guns_sub 2.dat as GUNS_SUB.dat to data/library folder?:yep:

PS. You know were all waiting for the big one Urfisch!!:D

[urfisch]

Great Stuff Urfisch, you said:
i have some kind of workaround. just unpack the copy of guns_sub.dat in the library folder. it was an accident how i found out that this works...deleted the copy of the dat and next time in the game, i had the same mistake as most of you "flak destroyed" and vanished. Can someone explain what has to be done to get this mod to work, I assume just copy the guns_sub 2.dat as GUNS_SUB.dat to data/library folder?:yep:

PS. You know were all waiting for the big one Urfisch!!:D

no problem...


WORKAROUND - HOW TO TO:

EXTRACT THE DOWNLOADED FILE INTO THE LIBRARY FOLDER!
DO NOT RENAME IT! - IT MUST BE COPY OF GUNS_SUB.DAT

DONE

[Anvart]

If urfisch's Guns_Sub.dat is made from GWX or other mods file
Urfisch should upload and other Guns_Sub files (sim, zon etc.), that it worked
in stock game and others.

[Cheapskate]

Reece, I share your confusion!

If you look at Urfisch's Library files you will note that the file Guns_Sub.dat is 7386 kb, This is Urfisch's mod.

The Copy of Guns_Sub.dat must therefore be the original GWX file renamed.

Problem is, that this shows as 9027 kb whereas all my game versions have only 8720 kb.

Urfisch's original GWX file has been modified somehow. Either that or mine are screwed up!!

What size is it on your installation??

[Madox58]

Actually, SH3 doesn't use the name of the file to look for stuff.
It looks at ID numbers.
My concern with this work around is that unless one of the files has been
cloned so all IDs have changed, it may cause the weird CTD or destroyed
guns.
Because you now have 2 files with the same IDs.
If no problems it still would affect load times abit since SH3 reads all this info at Load up.

[Cheapskate]

Actually, SH3 doesn't use the name of the file to look for stuff.
It looks at ID numbers.
My concern with this work around is that unless one of the files has been
cloned so all IDs have changed, it may cause the weird CTD or destroyed
guns.
Because you now have 2 files with the same IDs.
If no problems it still would affect load times abit since SH3 reads all this info at Load up.

My main concern about this work around is that it only cures the CTD or 'guns destroyed' error. It doesn't give me the new gun textures. :nope:

Have tried renaming both files in turn. No difference in display in Flak Training mission....20mm cannon stays same as stock.

If they are both present ...no matter which one is the Guns_Sub.dat, the game does not CTD. However if only Urfisch's file is in Library directory...then " Welcome to Crashville". No noticeable diff in load times BTW.

Why?... I don't have the foggiest...will have to leave that to better brains than mine. Like yours f'rinstance. :lol:

[Madox58]

As for load times, it would be just micro-seconds if seconds
but every little bit addes up.

[Anvart]

Actually, SH3 doesn't use the name of the file to look for stuff.
It looks at ID numbers.
My concern with this work around is that unless one of the files has been
cloned so all IDs have changed, it may cause the weird CTD or destroyed
guns.
Because you now have 2 files with the same IDs.
If no problems it still would affect load times abit since SH3 reads all this info at Load up.
Use, I think.
When you in a file *.eqp write any gun.
SH3 finds it by name among devices in folder Library.
Gun must to be root (no parent ID).

[Madox58]

You are right. I was not thinking of load up.
It does read names at start up, gets IDs
and builds the memory arrays which connects IDs.

I have not looked at the second dat to see what is going on
but I should as it seems an interesting situation.

[Alex]

Bump !

http://yelims.free.fr/Groumph/Peureux09.gif

[Madox58]

All I end up with is the 7 meg file from all links.
Someone have the actual 9 meg file?
I can't look at it if I can't get it.

[Alex]

BUMP ! :rock:
I've not forgotten this mod, and I would like to have it installed on my GWX installation someday ! http://yelims.free.fr/Coucou/Coucou23.gif

This new flak looks awesome and I can't wait to use it in-game ! :88)

@Privateer : IIRC, the 7meg file version is the only one Urfisch released so far.

[CapZap1970]

Hello my fello Kaleuns:
I was wondering if this mod if fully functional and tested. I would really like to use it, but i am not sure if will CTd, after reading some of the posts above.
Thanks a lot :up:
CapZap

[Cheapskate]

Well it never worked for me.

As Anvart says, Urfisch's method for incorporating the new textures was incorrect and whilst the work-around stopped the CTD's it didn't give me all the new textures. In particular the perforated flash eliminator on the end of the barrel was missing.

As I couldn't see much of a difference from the stock version I deleted it.

Whether anyone else had better luck I don't know. Maybe Reece, who was also trying to get it to work can add something to this discussion ??.

[nikbear]

Well it never worked for me.

As Anvart says, Urfisch's method for incorporating the new textures was incorrect and whilst the work-around stopped the CTD's it didn't give me all the new textures. In particular the perforated flash eliminator on the end of the barrel was missing.

As I couldn't see much of a difference from the stock version I deleted it.

Whether anyone else had better luck I don't know. Maybe Reece, who was also trying to get it to work can add something to this discussion ??.

I belive urfisch is still working on the mod and hopefully will get it working soon,the guns do look excellent:up: he's a busy chap at the moment;)

[CapZap1970]

thanks a lot for your replies, my fellow kaleuns... I will be waiting for an update on this. :up:
CapZap