Myth or reality Kiel Canal??

[f16falcon]

Hi guys,
Just been reading a post on the Kiel Canal...ive looked but cant seem to find it, i was wondering if there was a shortcut through to the North Sea rather than going the whole way round Denmark..no probs if not?? If anyone has any facts about the canal that would be great..i was talking to a friend and he said "yes it exists...but no way will you get a u-boat down it"..lol
f16falcon

[Dowly]

It exists and as far as I know, uboats used it.

[danlisa]

You will get a U-Boat through it in GWX. Before you even move when in Kiel ask you Nav officer to plot the outbound course through the canal. He will plot the course and you just have to order follow plotted course & set a speed.

[bigboywooly]

Have a search of the web
Was called the Kaiser Wilhelm Kanal
Now called the Nord Ostsee canal

http://www.kiel-canal.org/english.htm

Not big enough for a uboat eh


11-12 March 1941: Tirpitz passes through the Kiel Canal


Heres the WWI Scharnhorst in the canal

http://gooside.com/hush/name/s/Scharnhorst/scharnhorst3.jpg

Dorsetshire passing under one of the Kiel Canal bridges during visit in Germany

http://www.warship.get.net.pl/WBrytania/Cruisers/CA_1930_Norfolk_class/Dorsetshire_22.jpg

Seems your friend is wrong
LMAO

[Dowly]

Aaaand here´s Graf Spee going under the bridge:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1135/graf20speehc2.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Looks like hard evidence to me. Anyway, perhaps maybe F16 is using the standard game that does not have the canal. If so, you will find it in all its glory with the GWX mod.

[bigboywooly]

Aaaand here´s Graf Spee going under the bridge:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1135/graf20speehc2.jpg

:up:
Thats the one I was looking for :damn:

There is also one of the Bismarck which looks a lot like this

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/6972/screenhunter310mediumwy6.jpg

But real
:rotfl:

[f16falcon]

WOW! Awesome pics of the Dorsetshire, Graf Spee and the Scharnhorst, truly amazing! Yes im using GWX but wasnt before. Thanks guys thats fab. Just hope theres no mines..heheh! What was the depth of the canal? U-Boats did use this route then...cool.

[Dowly]

WOW! Awesome pics, truly amazing! Yes im using GWX but wasnt before. Thanks guys thats fab. Just hope theres no mines..heheh! What was the depth of the canal?

Dont worry, there´s no mines... atleast I havent hit any! :rotfl:

Cant remember the depth, but I wouldnt advice you to crash dive there. :up:

[bigboywooly]

WOW! Awesome pics, truly amazing! Yes im using GWX but wasnt before. Thanks guys thats fab. Just hope theres no mines..heheh! What was the depth of the canal?

Dont worry, there´s no mines... atleast I havent hit any! :rotfl:

Cant remember the depth, but I wouldnt advice you to crash dive there. :up:

lock sill depth:
in Brunsbüttel NN-10,20 m
in Kiel-Holtenau NN- 9,80 m
mitred lock gates:2 ebb tide and 2 flood tide doors per chamber
filling: through 2 side channels each with 12 branch channels
lock transit time: 30 minutes

new locks
usable length:310 m
usable width:42 m
depth:NN-14,00 m
lift gates:each chamber 3 gatesthe middle lock gate - which is also the reserve gate - makes it possible to transit the lock more quickly in a shortened chamber
filling:in Brunsbüttel by revolving lock gatesin Holtenau through 2 side channels each with 29 branch channels
lock transit time: 45 minutes



Its was widen after first build to allow deadnoughts to use it
Those figures are current ones

[Brag]

the GWX team did a great job in making it a sight seeing experience (at least part of the way --hehe) :D

[Torplexed]

The nicest thing about the GWX canal is there are no annoying locks you have sit in while they pump your water up to...or down to the next level. Too bad there isn't a 3-D souvenir shop selling baubles on the shore. "I navigated the Kiel Canal and all I got was this lousy tee shirt."

[xlbob]

I didn't know about this Kiel canal until I restarted my career to wilhelmshaven. In fact the reason I restarted my career was because it took a really loooong time to sail from the base in Kiel to the North sea, espescially in a type IIA boat.

It wasn't until my 2d partol (in second career) that I found out about the Kiel canal. I accidentally clicked on the "Kiel canal" navigation mode and afterward searched the map and realized that there's a shortcut from Kiel to North sea. :damn:

[Mush Martin]

Maybe that will be my next mod put a Brit. Mine laying sub into the game
with a mission to mine the approaches.

Nice!

NNNnnnnYes I like it.............I Like it its good.

MM:|\\

[BladeHeart]

I started my current patrol from Kiel by utilising the canal.

From the patrol point of view, given how inhospitable the North Sea is for a U-boat, and travelling through the English Channel is definately unhealthy, I wonder how much fuel is to be gained by using the canal. Once exiting the canal I then had to travel across the North Sea to sail around the Orkneys, etc?

[Iron Budokan]

Super pics! :up:

[Corsair]

I started my current patrol from Kiel by utilising the canal.

From the patrol point of view, given how inhospitable the North Sea is for a U-boat, and travelling through the English Channel is definately unhealthy, I wonder how much fuel is to be gained by using the canal. Once exiting the canal I then had to travel across the North Sea to sail around the Orkneys, etc?

It shortens the trip when you are assigned patrol grids east of the UK in the AN sector with a type II.
If on a VII and have to go to the Atlantic over the north, as I always go along the norwegian coast to avoid shallow waters near UK, it doesn't shorten much compared to the whole trip.

[Limbo]

Having just got posted to Kiel I used the canal option, but beware you can only x1 time compression in it due to proximity of land perhaps and depth is only 11-13m under keel so 5-6 hours it has taken me to get through. but has been an experience, will try going the long way round on way back.

Limbo

[bigboywooly]

Having just got posted to Kiel I used the canal option, but beware you can only x1 time compression in it due to proximity of land perhaps and depth is only 11-13m under keel so 5-6 hours it has taken me to get through. but has been an experience, will try going the long way round on way back.

Limbo

If you use SH3 commander its easy to bump up the setting for that
Or you can do it in main.cfg
Saves you going slow

Mine is set to 128TC

[Seeadler]

During to my duty in the German navy I passed the canal several times.

There is german naval tradition at the flood-gates in Kiel.
In the time where the ship is raised or lowered, the youngest crew members must try to buy soft-ice for the remainder of their group from the flood-gate office. And the buyers must be quick because the office has not enough ice for all.:arrgh!:

[bigboywooly]

During to my duty in the German navy I passed the canal several times.

There is german naval tradition at the flood-gates in Kiel.
In the time where the ship is raised or lowered, the youngest crew members must try to buy soft-ice for the remainder of their group from the flood-gate office. And the buyers must be quick because the office has not enough ice for all.:arrgh!:

Nice one
Now we need an ice cream mod
:rotfl:
I can send Bernard to buy them and sail off without him