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SeaQueen
02-02-07, 10:11 PM
I've been reading Milan Vego's book lately. I've found it very interesting, but so far there's been some points I'm not sure I understand. On p. 114-5, his formula for the probability of detection for a given barrier looks suspicious because it has units. Typically, I'm used to using other equations for barrier search Pd, so it immediately stood out to me.

I'm also unclear what the goal of a "vertical synchronous maneuver with submarine," is.

Bellman
02-02-07, 11:12 PM
I wonder if the "vertical synchronous maneuver with submarine" is in any way related to 'angles and dangles' ? :hmm:

PS. Edited out speculation on real life operations.

Kapitan
02-03-07, 04:07 AM
Russians do do a test similar to angles and dangles to test if all the control surfaces are working properly.

ISBN of the book?

Bellman
02-03-07, 06:42 AM
Yep we know the conventional explanation:

http://americanhistory.si.edu/subs/anglesdangles/index.html

Just have a suspicion that there's more in it than just extreme testing. In what other circumstances would there be a pay-off ? Such manouvres suggest torp evasion, or unknown effects on offensive and defensive sonar. But I guess suspicions will remain speculative !

SeaQueen
02-03-07, 08:57 AM
The way he explained it, it was a way to compensate for the fact that if a target transiting your barrier is expected to be going faster than your optimal search speed, then the effectiveness of that barrier starts to drop. I'm not really clear how, though.

I wonder if the "vertical synchronous maneuver with submarine" is in any way related to 'angles and dangles' ? :hmm:

PS. Edited out speculation on real life operations.

LuftWolf
02-03-07, 09:10 AM
...by allowing you to bring your sonar sensors into contact with sounds directed from a greater number of locations in a given ocean space for the same distance/time travelled...???

That's what the simple spreading model in DW would suggest anyway...

SeaQueen
02-03-07, 10:21 AM
ISBN of the book?

ISBN 0-87021-675-9