um, scuse me please, do you see 'birds in the rigging'? [Archive]

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 08:33 AM

Hello people. I feel a grockle coming in here with my query, but as the Ubi forum for this game seems not to be accepting logins, I thought I would look elsewhere and found YOU - so here I am.

I have owned SH3 for some time, and never 'got round' to playing it, being a slow but dogged 'X-Universe' player as well ( a space-sim genre, bit like a modern Elite), and there only being so many hours in the day ( well, night actually) to indulge myself. However, a few weeks back I started in on it and instantly got hooked simply because of the realism of how the ships roll and the waves break - all that sort of stuff. Because it seems such a well-made game ( or sim if you prefer), I wanted to do it properly, so enrolled in the Naval Academy and ( slowly) worked my way through the different training scenarios.
At present I am on Torpedoes, and have actually 'killed' the required amount of ships ( through luck more than skill I think), but my results were 'unsatisfactory' presumably because I did not take the sub far enough 'back to base' before coming out of that training session, so I have to do it all again. Well that is fine, thing is, while I was actually in SH3, few days back, something nasty happened to one of my SLI graphics cards and I had to replace it. Because we could not find another Geforce 6800 to pair up with the good one, we bought two Geforce 7600's, which are technically superior, being a later model, so I expected to have improved graphics experience. Well... in X3 everything seems to be fine and I have no grumbles, but in SH3 I have seen something which I do not remember was there before - so that is why I am here.

When you first surface, in the torpedo training exercise, you see two ships dead ahead - the big cargo vessel and a stationary small merchant closest. I thought that with my old graphics, when I looked through the scope at this vessel, I could see its rigging as a continued line, no breaks, just as you would in real life. However, now when I look through the scope, unless a ship is really quite close, the rigging appears to be broken up into little black squares - looks just like a load of birds perching on an invisible wire. I can live with this but it does spoil the realism a bit, and if there is a graphics tweak I should be tweaking ( I am a bit dim on all the technicalities there), then I would like to know - but mostly my question is, what do YOU see?

My machine is quite powerful (P4 3.4 GB processor), and the graphics cards, as I said, are two PCIe Geforce 7600 GT's with SLI enabled.

There are other things I would like to ask you too - but not here and not now. However, if there is a sticky on AOB, understanding headings, maps and other arcane skills ( I would look but have to go downstairs to prepare hubs lunch like five minutes ago) I may find insight there and not have to be an irritating novice in the main forum.:D

For now, If you can advise me on the 'birds in the rigging appearance' according to what others expect to see, it would be greatly appreciated

danlisa

01-15-07, 08:54 AM

Welcome to Subsim (your better off here anyway ;))

To answer you're question directly - I have never actually played the tutorials so I'm not too sure. However, one thing springs to mind, have you got AA + AF maxed out on you card?

Next, comes the big question. Are you playing Stock SH3? If so there have been significant improvements with this game.

Firstly, get yourself the offical Patch 1.4b.

Then have a look at the supermod options.

You currently have a choice from GWX, NYGM 2.3 & UBWAC.

Now, without covering really old news, the basics are that these three all offer improved realism (not too much but certainly more than the standard box version). Also, GWX & UBWAC offer improved graphics & sounds.

Being a GWX user (slightly biased :p) I would say that GWX offers the best allround package, you will surprised at the changes made.

The short of it is, you can find alot of info here and in the Mods section. Also, we will always help if we can.

Again, Welcome Aboard & Enjoy your Stay.

Edit - See the Newbie Links - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=96026 I'm not sure how upto date this is but it's a good start.

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 09:38 AM

hello danlisa, pleased to meetcha :)

have just had a look at the nVidia control panel for the 3d settings, and it is set to max quality. I did take a look at managing the settings myself, but suspected my fiddling would be counterproductive. I never have 'played around' with the 3d settings, apart from opting for a preset for X3, so figure it ought to be as good as it ever was in that department.

The next point you raise I think might be more on target. I DID have the 1b patch, and applied it, and I downloaded the Grey Wolves ( ?) mod, but did nothing with it as I wanted to make sure it was OK before I went ahead ( I guess it is hey). When the card went wrong, while I was in SH3, I thought at first it was the game (actually a capacitor had peeled of the board) and so uninstalled it. Well, I have been to where I park the game and now there is no patch and no grey wolf mod to be seen in that folder, so I guess they'm gone. I shall download them both and install and then see what happens (and report back here if you like :) )
Thank you for your welcome, I am encouraged, and will be back to scour the guidance on all the things I don't yet understand how to do. I also want to know who it is that seems to be fighting on 'my' side when I go into the Convoy attack training session ( which I did last night out of curiosity), but I guess that can wait too.

See you on the water then, ahoy, and all that briney stuff :):arrgh!:

_Seth_

01-15-07, 09:41 AM

Welcome to subsim, mate! :up:

danlisa

01-15-07, 10:07 AM

While you're getting sorted, click on my Sig and d/l the manual for GWX. It's a very good read and will give you some idea of how far SH3 has progressed.

Please keep us updated & we'll help if we can.:D

bigboywooly

01-15-07, 11:11 AM

Hi and welcome to Subsim
Yes you are better off here :rotfl:

I personally would get used to playing SH3 before you add on GWX
Tis a big step up in gameplay and you might want to learn the basics in SH3 first

Enjoy your stay
Someone will always answer any queries

Vikinger

01-15-07, 11:53 AM

Hi and Welcome to this lovely community.

X3 reunion you say :)

I love that game myself and do play it from time to time.

But nowadays SH3 have taken all my attention.

And listen to bigboywooly :D
His suggestion is good. best to lern the basic of the game and do some patrols before you add some mods. GWX is much harder to play than the stock.

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 12:04 PM

well, a BIG thankyou danlisa, and thank you all for the welcome.

I d/l'd the 1.4b patch and installed that, and instant improvement in the graphics - no more birds in the rigging; very happy-making that was. THEN I downloaded GWX ( see, I am getting the terminology a bit better now:up:) and... sorry bigboy, I did it before I saw your post... WOW!! Awesome improvement in the game I think. I can hardly wait to get back into it tonight. I almost want to start from scratch, just to see the improvements in every part. I already have loads of questions, but maybe the manual will help me, and any stickies you have on here.

I saw in the download notes ( I got it via GameShadow) that there is some optional detail I can add - JMW or summat? Some of the options looked interesting. I would love to have Das Boot music playing in the background and saw some mention of that film, also I can extend the visibility. There were others, something about changing the face icons for the members of the crew, stopping them wearing their medals. I am not clear as to how I access these available options, but,more importantly, if I do, and then decide I do not want them, can I undo them I wonder?

Anyway, my original 'complaint' about the birds in the rigging is comprehensively dealt with, and now the graphics are ace, and the whole Grey Wolf package is a super upgrade. Thanks again Wonderful!!:up:

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 12:10 PM

bigboywooly

01-15-07, 12:14 PM

In the SilentHunterIII directory ( C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII ) you will find JSGME already installed
Click on the program icon and you will see a list of available mods on the left hand side
Click a mod you want
Click enable in the middle column
And done

If you dont like it you click the mod in the right column and click disable
Simple

As you have already installed GWX dont forget to add the Dec 23rd update

http://files.filefront.com/GWX___Dec_23rd_Corrections7z/;6411219;;/fileinfo.html

Download and extract into the mods folder in C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII and enable through JSGME

THIS SHOULD BE THE FIRST MOD YOU ENABLE

Make sure you are back in port before adding
Any problems just ask :up:

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 12:25 PM

thank you bigboy :D I shall follow your instructs when I get back - got to do something boring now, like feed the fourlegs and himself.

bigboywooly

01-15-07, 12:35 PM

Ah just realised you are of the female persuasion
:rotfl:
Try this link for some helpful information

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=96026

And I'm sure if you ask Neal nicely you can get a female avatar :p

OT - Grockle
Now thats a word I havent heard in a while

Vikinger

01-15-07, 01:00 PM

Oh dear Vikinger - too late, BB's advice fell on ears that were not hearing, or rather eyes that were not seeing! Still, hard or not, with good folks in a dedicated community to ask help from, I should be able to get by. Can't be any worse than my space piloting in X3. Glad a fellow X3 enthusiast is here too. If this forum is as friendly as Egosoft I shall feel quite at home. :D

Hehe :)

I enjoy the Egosoft forum alot also but somehow i think and find this forum here more firendly than Egosoft (how now that can be) :D

You never hear any hard word here and people have greate respect for each other.
But this forum have people in all ages and SH3 is more than a game. its a community where many are intressted in the historical happenings around WW2 submarines.

Hope you enjoy the game and the forum :)

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 01:55 PM

Bigboy, you said

In the SilentHunterIII directory ( C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII ) you will find JSGME already installed
Click on the program icon and you will see a list of available mods on the left hand side
Click a mod you want
Click enable in the middle column
And done

If you dont like it you click the mod in the right column and click disable
Simple

As you have already installed GWX dont forget to add the Dec 23rd update

http://files.filefront.com/GWX___Dec.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX___Dec_23rd_Corrections7z/;6411219;;/fileinfo.html)

Download and extract into the mods folder in C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII and enable through JSGME

THIS SHOULD BE THE FIRST MOD YOU ENABLE

unquote

and I followed it and did it line by line, so actually I enabled the JSGME options before the Dec 23rd update, so maybe I did it wrong... I will see soon enough :)

'Grockle' for the unknowing is a slightly put-down term for tourists and visitors
Yus I am persuaded that I am of the female gender - I haven't strayed into an all-male domain I hope; there are lady sailors now so I hope you will tolerate me and be gallant about it :)

Avatars... I could put a piccy of my dog there I spose, she is quite 'wolfy', being a GSD, and a darn sight prettier than me! If not, I will give it a miss.

Vikinger, it sounds a good place, I am pleased, no, tickled pink indeed, to have found it.

Now I am going to get my feet wet in SH3, and go right back to the beginning of the tutorials to learn it proper like, if I can get my aging braincells around it!

danlisa

01-15-07, 01:57 PM

'Grockle' for the unknowing is a slightly put-down term for tourists and visitors

Ahh, emmits ;) in Cornwall.

The Dec 23rd Fix needs to be enabled before all other mods.

bigboywooly

01-15-07, 02:07 PM

No there are other female Kaleuns here so its not an all male domain

The Avatars change by your post count
Of course you can always make a donation to Subsim and have your own - as mine is

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=81920

All explained there

Even if you dont have your own avatar there are different ones for the fairer sex than us rough men :rotfl:

danlisa

01-15-07, 02:16 PM

:roll: You will have to excuse us sometimes, we spend alot of time at sea.:rotfl:

Carry on :D

GlobalExplorer

01-15-07, 02:18 PM

Oh dear Vikinger - too late, BB's advice fell on ears that were not hearing, or rather eyes that were not seeing! Still, hard or not, with good folks in a dedicated community to ask help from, I should be able to get by. Can't be any worse than my space piloting in X3. Glad a fellow X3 enthusiast is here too. If this forum is as friendly as Egosoft I shall feel quite at home. :D

You're at the right place .. subsim's forum is one of the best in the web - unbelievably great people.

Silent Hunter 3 with mods rocks. Possibly the most immersive WWII simulation there is, at the moment.

I must admit I have tried X2 once and I hated it. How can people compare it to elite? Anyway, play what you like.

Hakahura

01-15-07, 02:39 PM

Welcome to the Flotilla Frau Kaleun:)

"Grockle", have'nt heard that one for a while either. Makes me feel old.

Paajtor

01-15-07, 02:45 PM

Hey, that's funny....2 other X3-players showing up in the same topic.
And I thought nobody overhere knew about that game! :D

I loved it!
But I waited with buying X3 right after release, because that forum was simply overwhelmed with game-issues, untill EgoSoft finally managed to patch it to a stable degree...that's when I bought it.
And I played it...nothing else for weeks and weeks.:oops:
No wonder, as it took me around 3 weeks to get passed the - insane - learning-curve.
People say that SH3 has a steep learning-curve (?). Well, that's nothing compared to X3, LOL! :D

But there's this X3 user-interface...
Of course, after a while, I got a little bored, playing only 1 game.
So X3 was shelved, with the plan to return to it some day.
I never did. The userinterface kept me from doing so, I honestly think so.
It's such an incredibly bad design, and in the end it takes away much of the fun.
Take Oblivion, for example...a game maybe just as complex as X3, but with a userinterface that's intuitive and logical.

So X3 was shelved, and along came Oblivion.
And RedOrchestra-OstFront '41-'45.
And then I returned to SH3 - first using the IUB-mod - while waiting for the GWX-mod.
And now playing GWX.
GWX put Oblivion on the shelve again, lol.
But returning to X3? I know there have been some interesting addons released (Bala-Gy's research missions, stuff like that)...but I expect my return to the X-Universe will be for X4.

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 03:44 PM

wow, I come back and the whole world has been on here.. well, ok, quite a few other folk!

Paajtor, glad you got some mileage out of the X-series, and now I want to find out about this Oblivion you speak of!

Hakakura, what IS a kaleun? Will I like being it? Does it mean sailor?

GlobalExplorer, the memory of things gone always remains rosier than the now. I recently downloaded an Elite clone called Oolite, which seems as close as you can get to the original from what I found. I tell you, I wouldn't want to go back to that state of graphics again, although all those years ago I felt Elite was THE best. Egosoft's X-series IS like Elite in that it is open-ended and that you can trade, fight pirates and the enemy or attack innocent ships,build huge empires and fleets etc, and although there is a plot, you don't have to stick with it ( after XBTF anyway), and it is that freedom to go your own way rather than be tied to a particular route that so many of us find appealing. It is a deep and evolving game, but you do need patience and tenacity to slog through the early days. I am sorry you did not enjoy it - but we are all different :)

Back to thread ( ish). My best beloved is so taken with my 'new' Grey Wolf SH3 that he wants his own copy of the sim. Hmph, he used to work on war thingies so he knows a thing or two and will be steaming past me in no time I reckon, but if it stops him buying other stuff on eBay, I shan't grumble. Well, like danlisa says, time to spend some time at sea ( again), byebye for now.

danlisa

01-15-07, 03:46 PM

Kaleun = Captain

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 03:53 PM

aahhh, thank you danlisa

Abd_von_Mumit

01-15-07, 04:05 PM

Kaleun = Captain
I think it's better to say "Kapitänleutnant" (Ka+Leun), also known as Kaleu, Kaleunt, or even Kptltn. :) Spelled 'kah-loyn'.

Not as far ago I was wondering, what the hell was that 'Kaleun' that they call each other on this forum... Probably some American crappy word I shouldn't bother. And then I finally bought and watched "Das Boot". And then I knew... :)

PS Welcome among us, Kaleun (Kaleunin?). :)

melnibonian

01-15-07, 04:30 PM

Welcome to SubSim:up:

It's the best, more relaxed and friendly forum out there. Enjoy GWX and if you have any questions just ask. Everyone in here will do their best to help you:D :D :up:

Paajtor

01-15-07, 06:19 PM

now I want to find out about this Oblivion you speak of! No, you don't. :lol:

Not yet, at least....first enjoy SH3 a bit more.:up:

As for your rigging-issue: set Anisotropic Filtering to 16x (or as high as possible) in driver-settings, and see if that works.

She-Wolf

01-15-07, 06:26 PM

well thank you all gentlemen. I have just been having another bash at the torpedo training ( sigh). I can usually nobble the big merchant with one or two 'fish' ( zat right?), but getting lined up to sink someone else takes me such a long time that most of them have scuttled off and I have to chase them and try to come alongside..ee. I WILL get the hang of it.

I have read quite a bit of the Grey Wolves manual, but not too much of the history bits, next I will try the tips and tricks section on here to see if I can improve my performance.

I have several times watched the Das Boot sequence play through. Each time I felt a mixture of admiration and respect for the young men who had to endure such awful conditions threats and possibilities for months at a time, and a renewed confirmation that war is indeed horrible.

Vikinger

01-15-07, 07:24 PM

Oblivion is a nice game. I have that also installed on my comp. There is a big mod community for that game as well.
I bought the expansion pack for the game during christmas so i wanted to give it a go again.

But the game is an adventure/rollplaying whit swords and sorcery and its not a simulator.

Btw when we speak of other games. I do also have a version for Elite 3 installed that works well even on a new computer. Quite fun to do some nostalgia playing sometimes also.
Did you know that David Braben is planning to do a sequel Elite4. His company is currently working on another game but he have stated that when that game is released they will start to work on Elite 4.

And soon will SH4 be released.

Darn iam playing to many games :D

Boris

01-15-07, 07:38 PM

melnibonian

01-15-07, 08:03 PM

Oblivion and SH3 are death to my time, and time is something I really can't afford to kill as a student. I play MTW2 as well, which is another one of those time wasting games. I've restricted myself to SH3 for the time being (and not playing alot), till exams are over.
I know the feeling. So many wonderful games and so little time to play. Unfortunatelly with work, and especially now that term has started and students (like you Boris:p ) are back (exams to prepare, people to supervise, administration, teaching etc) I am so busy, I consider it a luxury if I can ever play GWX during the week.

She-Wolf

01-16-07, 06:12 AM

Will we get ticked off for going off-topic ( she asks timidly)?. Mornin' Community, Pawz here ( Gracie to my friends ):up:

I looked up Oblivion and it is the sequel to Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind, yes?

I have Morrowind, but have only played it once. I am sure it is a very good game ONCE you get into it, but for me there is not too much attraction in wandering around talking to people, so maybe I will give Oblivion a miss. But now Boris mentions MTW2.. I shall have to check that out now, but I expect it will be too gory for the likes of me.

Vikinger, David Braben seems to have been promising a return of Elite for the last ten years, but if it ever does come back ( though not wireframe) I would be interested.

You would think that being retired, I would have time to play ALL these games that you poor students can only snatch stolen moments with - but life is not like that, not here anyway. Mostly I am mending, upgrading, refurbishing computers for folks, and that can be a very time-consuming affair, especially as I do it for free.

Anyway, enough of this nattering, I shall have my nose in the how-to's tonight to see if I can improve my torpedo strategy. If you see a little sub out there on the waves, looking lost, it will be ME!

jasonsagert

01-16-07, 07:58 AM

I'm not sure what realizm settings you're using as far as torpedoe attacks. I started with the "easy" targeting, went to weapon officer, went to me ploting everything, back to weapon officer. After I convinced myself that I could plot a firing solution, it just wasted my game playing time to plot every solution. But, there are great tutorials on this forum if you're still having trouble--and manual "everything" is kind of hard. Requires me to have my pen and paper near. I don't like it, actually. I enjoy the weapons officer--hell, there's a reason that I'm a Kaptain! My officers should be doing that maths.

Chears,

J

Paajtor

01-16-07, 10:59 AM

It's your own topic, so if you don't mind going off-topic yourself...:D

I like Oblivion for the swords and bows.
Sure, you have to talk to people...but that is only a part of the game.
You need to talk to them, to find clues about quests you have accepted...or get a hint for a new quest from them.
You also gotta do some talking, to get merchandisers to buy or sell for a good price.
Maybe you can compare it to the billboards of X3.

But for me, the game is all about stealth and sneaking (in my case, playing as a Thief-character, wood-elf based).
There are dozens and dozens of caves and dungeons in the Oblivion world for you to explore and clean up.
Just that is enough to keep you going for weeks...and that's even without touching the story-line.
I only went through the 1st couple of story-quests, to get a free horse in the early game.
And all enemies level up with you, so there will always be a challenge in fights.

But compared to the X3, Oblivion has a much more interesting storyline.
In X3, it got really interesting once you ignored the story, and started building up your own empire.
In Oblivion, the storyline opens a new parallel world (called Oblivion...some may call it hell), and suddenly Oblivion-gates start appearing everywhere, for you to enter, and for new enemies to emerge from.

It's a great game, with awesome visuals, and a game-world that seems to be alive and breathing.
And the weather-engine is the best I've ever seen in a game...I really wish SH3 could have it the way Oblivion has: when a thunderstorm approaches (suppose you're in a forest), it slowly starts to get darker...the wind picks up, and trees start to move violently...suddenly a thunderstrike, and before you know it, showers of rain are blown into your face, and you really feel the need to hide somewhere.
After a few hours, the thunderstorm disappears, and there's a good chance that fog comes after it.

You need a juicy rig, to play the game at higher settings...but I guess that is not a problem for you.
I compare SH3 to X3 and Oblivion, because these games are very complex, and offer allot of freedom.
And all 3 have a great community, with good modders.

GlobalExplorer

01-16-07, 12:00 PM

GlobalExplorer, the memory of things gone always remains rosier than the now. I recently downloaded an Elite clone called Oolite, which seems as close as you can get to the original from what I found. I tell you, I wouldn't want to go back to that state of graphics again, although all those years ago I felt Elite was THE best. Egosoft's X-series IS like Elite in that it is open-ended and that you can trade, fight pirates and the enemy or attack innocent ships,build huge empires and fleets etc, and although there is a plot, you don't have to stick with it ( after XBTF anyway), and it is that freedom to go your own way rather than be tied to a particular route that so many of us find appealing. It is a deep and evolving game, but you do need patience and tenacity to slog through the early days. I am sorry you did not enjoy it - but we are all different :)

I know Oolite. Strange, I am absolutely delighted by it and sometimes show it to friends as an example of how games were in the good old days. In fact I even started writing a similar program with much better graphics to learn OGRE, but unfortunately I lost interest in that after a while ..

Anyway, discussion matters of taste is pointless, enjoy the X-games!

She-Wolf

01-16-07, 12:58 PM

Global, glad you know about Oolite - I wouldn't disagree with you that it is nostalgic - I just wouldn't want to go back to those sorts of graphical limitations. I still have it on my machine and ONE day I might actually manage to dock again ( I can remember being so proud when I first managed it in Elite!). The game was all in the play, that was its abiding worth I suppose :)

Paaj, now you have got me wanting to play Oblivion - is it as good as that in Morrowind do you know?

jason - err, p..plotting, me? Um. Did I know about that? I am in the training exercise and they don't got no plotting or easy options. If I click on the weapons officer he will mark the nearest merchant, but I can do that for myself, and besides, nearest isn't always the best choice. I have been trying to approach vessels in such a way that the torpedo will strike as square-on as I can make it, with me either pointing the bows of the sub straight at it, or running with it on a parallel course. Mostly I get strikes, but it takes such a long time to manoevre the craft around to the next quarry - which is hightailing it off to the horizon - that I don't always find sufficent boats to target, so can't complete the brief.

Ho hum :arrgh!:

Vikinger

01-16-07, 01:51 PM

Some people liked morrowind better than Oblivion. But i have played both games and i must say i enjoy Oblivion much more.

Iam also an elf thief specilized in bows and destruction magic and sneak, picklocks etc.

its quite thrilling when you sneak into someones home and rob them from everything they have while they lay in bed snoring :D

The npc in the game are cool coz they have thier own life and buisness. They wake up, eat breakfast, go to work, end of work either they go home again or visit a taverna for some gossip.

If you are unlucky u will get biten by a vampire and become on for your self. U can only be outdoor at night and u need to feed also :) Its a long and difficult quest to do to cure you from vampirism.

You can buy houses and have them as your home. Every city offer some house for sale.
Well there is so much to do in that game so it will keep you occupied for months :)

She-Wolf

01-16-07, 01:55 PM

gosh.... well, it and Oblivion and any other juicy carrot dangled in front of me is just going to have to wait its turn, cos right now I'm in the untersee boot :D and I just can't switch my mind to goblins or spacecraft or ANYthing when there is the serious business of mastering these torpedoes to deal with.

Paajtor

01-16-07, 03:03 PM

That's what I told you before....don't get Oblivion now.
Get it when spring arrives or so. :)

My squad's own forum has a topic (http://www.61shap.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1388) about Oblivion (9 pages by now lol)...you may want to read some overthere.

She-Wolf

01-16-07, 05:19 PM

yes Paajtor, you are right... except... I already gone and bought a copy from eBay. BUT, I won't even open it until I have got THIS game a bit more understood. :up:

I have been getting my toes wet again and did not fare at all well in either of the training sessions ( Torpedo and Convoy).

I have been looking at the sticky and found out about setting the realism level. I set it to 54%, which included delayed torpedo loading, but now I have turned that particular option off - just while I am getting the hang of it all.

I downed the big merchant with two torps in the torpedo exercise, but then spent HOURS trying to line up for a good pop at the others, and used most of my torpedoes in near misses. Hmph. Then I did convoy and got one ship sunk and successfully avoided being depth charged, but then the escort kept on going round and round me and I could not seem to get away, even though he did not seem to know where I was. I did not quite understand though why the escort ships started firing at each other, until eventually one sunk. They both seemed to have the same flag, and when I got there I assumed they were both escorting the merchants...

Anyway, I shall have another go tomorrow ( and the day after that, and the day...)

ps, yes I will take a peek at your 9 pages of Oblivion, when it comes, ta:D

danlisa

01-16-07, 05:32 PM

and used most of my torpedoes in near misses

I'm guessing here, but, open the torpedo doors first (Press Q). There is about a 3sec delay in firing if you don't.;)

bigboywooly

01-16-07, 05:40 PM

Try a slighty different angle approach Gracie
Line up as if you are going to fire on the middle merchant but then alter the boats heading so you aim for the left or right one
Fire your fish
Move the boat to aim at the centre one and fire then move on to the next
You AOB doesnt have to be exactly 90 degrees
Anywhere from 70 - 110 should be ok to use impacts
Magnetics of course you can fire at any angle

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4997/anglesjd5.jpg

Forgive the crude pic :rotfl:

Paajtor

01-16-07, 05:44 PM

I did not quite understand though why the escort ships started firing at each other Have you patched your game to version 1.4b?
If so, are you playing without any mods?

She-Wolf

01-16-07, 07:27 PM

Paaj, I have the full Monty! 1.4b and Grey Wolves Expansion - and coo, doesn't it make a difference! My 'birds in the rigging' was when I was running the game out of the box. Now everything is...wonderful!

bigboy. I will give it a go, thanks Mark :)

danlisa, I found out about the (Q)uick key in the sticky, and yes, it certainly helps things along. I also read that it is ok to set the torpedo speed to 'fast' but I guess I can only do that if I find a solution manually as it does not stay set when I try it. I am a LONG way from attempting manual solutions. Still, I had fun tonight. The reason I got SH3 was because I recalled the tingle I got from playing either Silent Hunter or was it 'Run Silent Run Deep'? on the Amiga ( and all on 1 meg!) so many moons ago, and I wanted to see if SH3 could give me that same thrill, waiting to see if the boat passing overhead was going to nobble you, wow, makes you hold your breath in. Well yes, it can indeed, and even better when you get good at it I expect. I enjoyed playing cat and mouse with the escort tonight, even if I was the mouse. great fun trying to outwit the other chap :)

night night now, going to get some zzzzeds.