My dumb council

[STEED]

My first prediction has come true, yes it's PC Madness coming from my council. I got a letter in the post informing me as from next week residents must put there rubbish in the purple bin bags as supplied by the council, if anyone fails to do so there rubbish will not be collected. This is really going to upset the bin men as these bags are useless they split far to easy.

Just been talking to some of my neighbours about this and all of them think it's a blasted cheek, they can also see the bin men are going to be angry over this as these bags are useless for putting rubbish in. Let you all know what happens next week on rubbish collection day.

[The Munster]

What, no wheelie-bin ? Most Councils across the UK have a wheelie-bin facility in place. In fact, most Councils will not take your refuse unless it is in a wheelie-bin ?!

[Linton]

Steed I would go and buy some rat poison and traps if I were you.What council is this?My council wouldn't give away anything for free.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Am I to understand this is because the binbags are black? If so, you should write a letter saying "Why isnt talcum powder beige" and "Why isnt whipped cream a neutral and non-ethnic colour?" :p

[dean_acheson]

Wow, I can't imagine.

If any U.S. board of aldermen did this in the Mid-West, they would be tarred-and-feathered.

[waste gate]

This kind of rubbish (pun intended) is the reason I believe that the less any legislative body accomplishes the better every citizen, regardless of the country, is better off.

[STEED]

What, no wheelie-bin ? Most Councils across the UK have a wheelie-bin facility in place. In fact, most Councils will not take your refuse unless it is in a wheelie-bin ?!

Not here yet, but they tried a lode of different coloured recycling boxes for paper, card, plain bottles, brown bottles and so on. After about 2 or 3 months they dropped it to one box for paper and card.

Steed I would go and buy some rat poison and traps if I were you.What council is this?My council wouldn't give away anything for free.

Most likely the cost for there cheap and nasty bin bags comes out of my council tax.



The bin men are going to have a bad time with these bags, let you all know on Monday how they react.

[TteFAboB]

What do you mean they won't collect?!

This is a gold mine right there! Set up your own damned waste collecting company and offer to collect any crap in any bag for cheaper than the council does. It all depends on where you'll dump it. I guess if the city dump won't take your trash, then you'd have to build your own landfill. Well, then things become a little greater in scale and a little more difficult.

Anyway, what an opportunity! If all of this isn't illegal, let me know, I'll be with my truck by your door next week. I'll dump the trash in the Euro-tunnel untill I can convince some Lords to grant me some land for the landfill.

[diver]

This is really going to upset the bin men as these bags are useless they split far to easy.


That's really dangerous.

Sooner or later one of those poor blokes will get spiked by a syringe, or cut by some unhygenic implement.

I don't usually support industrial action, but in a matter like this I would support the Garbo's 100% if they told the council to stuff it. Safety should never be compromised.

[Melonfish]

hah, its alright. my council has issued blue bins (paper) and green bins (garden waste) to all the Private estates in the area. the council estates (mixed with private like my house) got just the blue bin. i've asked for a green bin and i've been told that i don't need one....
??
i also asked when brown bins would be coming in (plastic) and i got the response "whats a brown bin?"

as for your initial issue, whats the reason for the purple bags? is it some new council scheme of some kind? it can't be a PC thing seeing as every single bin bag you buy commercially is either black or white. (perhaps they want to spruce up the local tip? bit of colour?)
pete

[August]

hah, its alright. my council has issued blue bins (paper) and green bins (garden waste) to all the Private estates in the area. the council estates (mixed with private like my house) got just the blue bin. i've asked for a green bin and i've been told that i don't need one....
??
i also asked when brown bins would be coming in (plastic) and i got the response "whats a brown bin?"

as for your initial issue, whats the reason for the purple bags? is it some new council scheme of some kind? it can't be a PC thing seeing as every single bin bag you buy commercially is either black or white. (perhaps they want to spruce up the local tip? bit of colour?)
pete

I think I can answer that as some of the neighboring towns have similar schemes. The reason for the purple bags is to distinguish resident trash from non resident trash. Unless I miss my guess the bags cost money, probably more than the normal cost of trash bags (and where do the profits from sales go?) and only residents can buy them right?

[STEED]

as for your initial issue, whats the reason for the purple bags? is it some new council scheme of some kind? it can't be a PC thing

Yes it is, are old bin bags were black I don't think I need to add anymore to that. ;)

[Kapitan]

Some councils are wheelie bins but some are not dont forget you need specialy adapted lorries to accomadate for wheelie bins, as they need a bin lift.

Whats more i think it will anger the dust men if the rubbish keeps coming out of the bag if its anything like my crew theres going to alot of mess on the floor but naff all in the lorry.

Lorries with the bin lift cost another £8,000 more to buy and over 10 years will cost a good £50,000 in service and repair a straight throw in lorry doesnt need that extra maintinance.

the only way to solve the issue is double bag put the purple liner on the outside and a black one on the inside the bin men will thankyou.

But this could be a good opotunity to make money here when people say why aint you taken my bag it will be give us £3 and we will :D

[U-533]

omg... yall got it bad as we do.

I wonder if in Iraq and Iran and the others they worry about being PC?:hmm:

[STEED]

omg... yall got it bad as we do.

I wonder if in Iraq and Iran and the others they worry about being PC?:hmm:

I think they got other things on there plates.

I for one am going to do what Kap suggested, my rubbish has gone into a strong bin bag and that one has gone into the now split purple bag.

[STEED]

I got an update just heard a resident down the road has been in contact with our councillor, he has stated it's PC rubbish and he did not approve of this. He has suggest to pay no notice to this order or so the bin men have lodge a complaint about how flimsy these bin bags are. The councillor has reported there has been a backlash, it could be dropped within the next two weeks.


PS: I hope so. :yep:

[STEED]

The bin men were fed up picking up the litter from the torn bags today, yep they were angry. Some of us double bagged are rubbish which they were grateful of. No news from the council yet.

[Kapitan]

STEED dont be worried if the union calls a strike for this be warned when this one happend down my end the strike was 3 weeks long.

But as the saying goes DUSTMEN ALWAYS WIN !

and believe in me its so true!

[bookworm_020]

My council here in Australia has the three wheelie bin system, A 120 litre gereral waste bin thats collected every week, and two 240 bins, one for recycing and the other garden waste, whic are collected every two weeks (one this week, the other the next)

The truck are all automated, so they only need the driver (that reduces costs) and less chance of spillage.

This system has also lead to an increase in recycling, which also keeps waste costs down as there is less need for landfill sites.

[Venatore]

The worst council in Australia is by far the Wagga Wagga Council in NSW. The management at the HQ in the city centre has no idea with regards to how to treat their workers. The theme in this tread is about the rubbish, well you can throw them in it as well !

:nope::down::shifty::stare::hulk::mad::/\\chop

[The Munster]

My council here in Australia has the three wheelie bin system, A 120 litre gereral waste bin thats collected every week, and two 240 bins, one for recycing and the other garden waste, whic are collected every two weeks (one this week, the other the next)

The truck are all automated, so they only need the driver (that reduces costs) and less chance of spillage.

This system has also lead to an increase in recycling, which also keeps waste costs down as there is less need for landfill sites.

Sounds like an ideal world but I have a couple of questions over this...
1. what happened to the loaders, unemployed ?
2. what happens if the 'customer' puts the bin in the wrong place so the machine cannot reach it etc., is the bin missed ?

[Kapitan]

If your doing routes that are around 12 miles in length (as mine are) then your looking for one person about 23 hours to complete that going by how big my round is (2,000+ houses) now it takes 3 of us about 6 hours to complete that 12 miles and if its realy bad like monday 12 hours and there were 4 of us.

Theres no way one driver could do a whole route like that by himself theres loaders out there they may just be pulling out on another road.

It doesnt matter how automated the trucks are the lorry can still only handle 2 wheelie bins at a time, and single bin work is very slow, in the time it takes to do one road using just the bin methord i can easily have done 3 or 4 roads using bags.

The lorries i have worked on you just put the bin to the bin lift and then it does it automaticaly but it can still only handle two bins at a time and takes around 30 seconds to clear before we can load the next two, in which time the lorry cannot move because saftey features means that the lorry must be put into nutrel gear before it can use the bin lifts.

with bags i can load the lorry while its moving and we only have to select nutrel to blade itwhich means we are on the go all the time non stop realy.

As a dustman i know about these things ;)

[The Munster]

Kapitan, have you heard if you are getting the pay per weight implemented ? I know it's in the pipeline and Cork has it but Eire is in the EU. From what I can gather, Cork's turning into a big rubbish dump as people are throwing their stuff into ditches etc. instead of their wheelie-bin to reduce the charge.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

All together now!

"Ooh, my old man's dustman, he wears a dustman's hat, he wears cor'blimey trousers, and he lives in a council flat.."


:rotfl:

[The Munster]

AAH But who sang it ?!

[Enigma]

Lonnie Donegan.

And, as someone who was born and lived 12 years in the UK, and another 16 years in the states, I must say, with this authority, that "Dustman" is a much nicer name than "Garbage man" or "Trash Man." :yep:

[bookworm_020]

My council here in Australia has the three wheelie bin system, A 120 litre gereral waste bin thats collected every week, and two 240 bins, one for recycing and the other garden waste, whic are collected every two weeks (one this week, the other the next)

The truck are all automated, so they only need the driver (that reduces costs) and less chance of spillage.

This system has also lead to an increase in recycling, which also keeps waste costs down as there is less need for landfill sites.
Sounds like an ideal world but I have a couple of questions over this...
1. what happened to the loaders, unemployed ?
2. what happens if the 'customer' puts the bin in the wrong place so the machine cannot reach it etc., is the bin missed ?

The loaders were retrained as drivers as more truck were used, some of them moved into maintaince of gardens and buildings, as well as emptying the rubbish bins that the council provided for the public (there not wheelie bins)

People have to put bin faceing the roadway not more than one metre from the edge and a metre apart from each other. The loader can reach futher than that but rarely needs to.

Bins can be skipped if they are overloaded, or if they caught with wrongly soughted bins (garden waste ing the recycling). If caught they have a sticker placed on them and will not be collected untill it has be cleared by council inspectors

[STEED]

I rec'd a letter today from the council and here's the news the purple bin bags as supplied by the council are to stay, if anyone fails to use them there rubbish will still be collected, looks like a breakthrough but hang what's this the council will be implementing before the end of the year that rubbish collection will be every other week. I know someone who's council has already done this and he said no one likes it at all. So the upshot is some good news but with a sting in the tail, don't trust the council.

[Kapitan]

Pay per throw our council has refused to comply with it because in the long run it will create more mess, and whats to stop your angry naighbor putting lead wieghts in your bin nothing, and whats more my council uses bags so how do you wiegh a bag?

Also my council is thinking about doing collection once every two weeks but only when the recycling catches up with the dusts to 50% what my council hopes to achieve is 60% recycling and 40% non re usable waste by 2015. (currently stands 80% dust and 20% recycling and its taken 2 years to get that far)

The dusts will be cut from 22 lorries to 11 and the recycling lorries will go from 8 to around 20.

[Melonfish]

i'd be all up for alternate weekly collections on the following grounds.
i get my regular black bin, my blue bin is actually collected (paper) i get a green bin for garden waste and i get a brown for plastics.
THEN i'd be happy to do alternate collection.

to be honest the yanks have been doing recycling for how long? 10-15-20 years in some area's?
why the hell are we all suddenly mad dashing around now when we should have been looking at this at least in the early 90's
all this pay per weight crap is tosh, wtf do we pay council tax for? people are going to simply dump their crap anywhere because of this and the council will foot bigger bills to clean it up. mark my words.
hell i bet if it comes to weight charges people won't take their bin out till the last possible moment for fear that your neighbour will top yours off....

i'd just like to say a big "thanks labour gov't" for this fine mess.
pete

[STEED]

i'd just like to say a big "thanks labour gov't" for this fine mess.
pete

I have no compliant with that remark what so ever. :yep:

Pete for Prime Minister. :up: