Best GWX Patrol to date

[CWorth]

This was my second patrol in my new career..started in Wilhelmshaven on November 8 1939 and was orderded to patrol grid BF15 in my TypeVIIb.

Was a pretty routing trip around the north of England when I picked up a lot of noise on the hydrophones during a late night check.Turned out to be a large convoy steaming NNW from the Irish Sea area.

I could only see a single Black Swan escort which I quickly dispatched with a shot under the keel.I surfaced and started my attack on the convoy...during which a second Black Swan showed up from the other side of the convoy sending me down.He started searching and ended up firing at least 25 starshells as rapidly as his gun could fire them into the air Here is a screenshot of that.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/176/starshellsbp9.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=starshellsbp9.jpg)

During his starshell firing I managed to get a stern shot which sank him.And then finished the merchant next to him in the pic.

After that I resurfaced and renewed the attack firing tubes and deck gun into the convoy.Was going well until another destroyer,type unknown as I did not bother to classify it showed up.I proceeded to dive away yet again and sit out a his search..he never found me and moved off to the NNE.You can see where he showed up in the pic of the map below by the gap between sinkings..this is where I had to wait for him to leave.

I picked up the convoy again on the hydrophones and proceeded at flank speed to catch up.After I caught up it was like shooting fish in a barrel as they were completely unprotected now.Stayed on the surface firing tube after tube and shell after shell from my deck gun until the entire convoy was wiped out.Used the torpedoes to slow em down and the deck gun to finish em off.

Now out of torpedoes and deck gun ammo I ignored my patrol grid orders and returned to base.

Just a few shots of the results of my attacks...

Map view of the convoys route and sinking locals
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7250/mapviewra5.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapviewra5.jpg)

Patrol Log of ships sank
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7703/page1xc9.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page1xc9.jpg)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7703/page1xc9.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page1xc9.jpg)

Final tally back at base..54,868 tons sunk...2,500 for the 2 Black Swans and 52,368 for the 15 merchants
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/627/finaltallycd9.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finaltallycd9.jpg)

[Morts]

nice:up:

[Herr Russ]

Congrats....

That was one heck of a patrol!!! :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Kick butt dude! Those DD are silly in GWX...if you know how to handle them:up:

[gouldjg]

Stuffy git :damn:

All I seem to get is the odd merchant and a bucket load of DC's on my head.

I will get that juicy moment one day,

Nice one:up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Stuffy git :damn:

All I seem to get is the odd merchant and a bucket load of DC's on my head.

I will get that juicy moment one day,

Nice one:up:

I have found you need to work a little harder to find the merchants. My watch are nothing but full green bar and miss ships. I spend time on the tower scanning the horizon with them. With binoculars I can usually spot them before my "expert" watchmen do:shifty:. Same with the sonar, I usually work that myself as well. I heard the churning props of a convoy long before my deaf sonarman did:shifty:. This is only my second patrol and I hope the boys improve with age....just like wine :up:

[KaleunHassanAziz]

Now that's what I call GWX "realism"!

Good Job, folks!!!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

(No mistake, I love GWX eye candies hehe)

[Letum]

Not very realistic tactict for that year, but a good show :D

[mookiemookie]

Good god, man...did you take out the entire convoy yourself? :o

And I thought I was happy to get 10 ships sunk for 23k GRT! (pesky small merchants!)

[CWorth]

Good god, man...did you take out the entire convoy yourself? :o

And I thought I was happy to get 10 ships sunk for 23k GRT! (pesky small merchants!)

Yep whole convoy..

Was pretty easy once the 2 escorts were destroyed and the 3rd destroyer that came to the rescue left after I evaded him.

After the 3rd destroyer pinned me down for a bit it took a little to catch back up to the convoy and finish them off.The sun was starting to come up as the last 2 were finished.

[peterloo]

Excellent... But how much realism did you use?

[CWorth]

I believe it is around 84%...

The only things that are not checked is
1. No External Views..I keep these to get great screenshots.
2. No Weapons Officer...I keep him in use so he can do his job as he is supposed to..the capitan did not do all the work himself after all.

[Mooncatt]

Good god, man...did you take out the entire convoy yourself? :o

heheheh yeah he did and a nuetral too ahhh well they all as bad shouldnt be in a english convoy :D

[Letum]

I believe it is around 84%...

The only things that are not checked is
1. No External Views..I keep these to get great screenshots.
2. No Weapons Officer...I keep him in use so he can do his job as he is supposed to..the capitan did not do all the work himself after all.

If you count the realism with wich you play the game, then realism for this mission is much lower. :hmm:

[CWorth]

I believe it is around 84%...

The only things that are not checked is
1. No External Views..I keep these to get great screenshots.
2. No Weapons Officer...I keep him in use so he can do his job as he is supposed to..the capitan did not do all the work himself after all.

If you count the realism with wich you play the game, then realism for this mission is much lower. :hmm:

Letum..

I suggest you stay out of my threads if you can't do anything more than snipe at a person and troll for trouble as it wont work on me.
I nor anyone else here has to answer to you and what your idea of what realism should be.Nor do I even want to hear about it.Your idea of realism is not my idea of realism.Realism is in the eye of the individual player.SO STFU about it and go pester someone else.You play the GAME your way I will play the GAME my way.

[LeafsFan]

All that tonnage and all they gave you was the IC 2nd class.

HB

[Letum]

Letum..

I suggest you stay out of my threads if you can't do anything more than snipe at a person and troll for trouble as it wont work on me.
I nor anyone else here has to answer to you and what your idea of what realism should be.Nor do I even want to hear about it.Your idea of realism is not my idea of realism.Realism is in the eye of the individual player.SO STFU about it and go pester someone else.You play the GAME your way I will play the GAME my way.
Now hang on a second! :huh:

In no way have I made any kind of personal attack or snipe on you in this thread or any other!
I haven't said that any one way of playing the game is better than any other way. I have played and enjoyed the game at all realism levels, there is no "right" way to enjoy SH3 and I have never said other wise.

Realism is in the eye of the individual player.
No, by definition realism is not subjective. It is something that can be checked .
If it is "in the eye" of a individual that pink and red striped destroyers crewed by mice are realistic then that individual is wrong.

All I was saying is that, because sinking multiple escorts before attacking a convoy in 1939 was not a tactic used, taught or encouraged by u-boats, it is not a realistic tactic to employ.
I was not implying that using unrealistic tactics is a bad thing at all, sometimes I chose to my self, and I was certainly not implying that you are a bad person or snipe at you.

I don't know why you have taken my post(s) as personal attacks on you, but I apologize for anyway in which I have caused offense.

[AVGWarhawk]

All that tonnage and all they gave you was the IC 2nd class.

HB

Good point! They should have you take over Donitz job:D

[CWorth]

Letum..

I suggest you stay out of my threads if you can't do anything more than snipe at a person and troll for trouble as it wont work on me.
I nor anyone else here has to answer to you and what your idea of what realism should be.Nor do I even want to hear about it.Your idea of realism is not my idea of realism.Realism is in the eye of the individual player.SO STFU about it and go pester someone else.You play the GAME your way I will play the GAME my way.
Now hang on a second! :huh:

In no way have I made any kind of personal attack or snipe on you in this thread or any other!
I haven't said that any one way of playing the game is better than any other way. I have played and enjoyed the game at all realism levels, there is no "right" way to enjoy SH3 and I have never said other wise.

Realism is in the eye of the individual player.
No, by definition realism is not subjective. It is something that checked .
If it is "in the eye" of a individual that pink and red striped destroyers crewed by mice are realistic then that individual is wrong.

All I was saying is that, because sinking multiple escorts before attacking a convoy in 1939 was not a tactic used, taught or encouraged by u-boats, it is not a realistic tactic to employ.
I was not implying that using unrealistic tactics is a bad thing at all, sometimes I chose to my self, and I was certainly not implying that you are a bad person or snipe at you.

I don't know why you have taken my post(s) as personal attacks on you

Sorry of I did take it that way...not always in the best of moods or is the mind working well when I first wake up.At least not until I get my 3rd cup of coffee:oops: .

As for tactics...I usually dont go for the real tactics employed as we see in history books the results of those.
I like to make em up on the fly and as I go.So far they work well for me.

Early in the war I do target the Destroyers as they are fewer in number in the convoys and less of a threat.Takeout the 1 or 2 escorts and ravage the convoy,but later in the war you can be sure I leave them alone and give them as much room as they need.

However if one puts himself in the position of being open to attack then I will do so just for the purpose of self defense and protecting my boat.

[CWorth]

All that tonnage and all they gave you was the IC 2nd class.

HB

I know...the crew did well though.

They got 31 Uboat clasps,2 IC 2nd class and 1 IC 1st class.

[Letum]

Sorry of I did take it that way...not always in the best of moods or is the mind working well when I first wake up.At least not until I get my 3rd cup of coffee:oops: .
[...]
Early in the war I do target the Destroyers as they are fewer in number in the convoys and less of a threat.Takeout the 1 or 2 escorts and ravage the convoy,but later in the war you can be sure I leave them alone and give them as much room as they need.

However if one puts himself in the position of being open to attack then I will do so just for the purpose of self defense and protecting my boat.

:D No problem mate, I'm glad we're understanding each other again.

If your interested in how the real klauens operated against destroyers....

In the early years of the war convoy escorts where ignored as targets because they followed unpredictable paths (unlike SH3 :shifty:) so torpedoes usually missed unless you fired salvos. It was considered a waste of torps that could be better used sinking merchant ships and their valuable cargos.
This doctrine was reinforced when most attacks against destroyers looked like misses. In hindsight, this was probably down to the depth keeping problems with torpedoes, the shallow draft of destroyers and magnetic pistol failure in the first years of war.
Klauens where, however, trained to use the stern torpedo tube to target attacking destroyers, but this was often met with failure due to the bad AOB and magnetic torpedo failure/depth keeping.
Lone destroyers on predictable courses would often be attacked with a salvo if no other targets where around.

Towards the end of the happy time some of the torpedo problems where starting to be fixed. Destroyers where becoming better at sinking subs as well. As a result Bdu ordered u-boats on the convoy routes to attack destroyers even if there was little chance of a hit. The hope was not primarily to sink destroyers, but that the destroyers would become less effective if they where afraid of being hit by a torpedo. Attacking merchant shipping was still the priority and warship stinkings where somewhat rare.

Only when acoustic homing torpedoes became operational did subs start sinking all the escorts before attacking the convoy. The first successes where stunning and a few convoys where decimated, but the allies had predicted that the Germans would introduce homing torpedoes and with in two weeks destroyers where being fitted with "foxer" decoys that confused homing torpedoes. Not only where destroyers protected from u-boat attack again, but the foxer device meant that acoustic torpedoes where unable to hit anything in a convoy.

[Jimbuna]

A bit late coming in here guys but that looked like one helluva patrol CW....congrats :rock:

Glad you and Letum have reached a position of mutual understanding :up:

Now to both of you....GO SINK EM ALL!! :arrgh!: