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spork542
12-23-06, 11:20 PM
There is a convoy approaching and I'm north of Scapa, but there is only 88 meters below my keel and I have no BOLDs. Should I bother? I hear escorts are incredibly smart in GWX, but I don't like the idea of letting a large convoy go. It's April of 1941.
Check out the convoy, how many escorts?
Whats the weather like? Its easy to slip away in a noisy storm.
If you are going to attack are you using type I or type II torps? If you are using Typ eI you have the advantage of range.
How good is your TDC? are you using manual? If so can you hit a ship at 3km?
Most importantly: can you attack at night or follow the convoy until night?
spork542
12-23-06, 11:36 PM
I use auto targeting. The weather is clear with 2ms winds. I have not spotted the convoy yet and I have a mix of T1 and T2 torpedoes. It will be about 0430 when I get to the convoy.
Edit: There are also 3-5 escorts. I'm probably going to forfeit the attack.
yer, personally I wouldn't risk it.
If things go tits-up your bugged.
If I had to attack i would need all TI torpedoes and I would need to shadow the convoy until the next night to make a long range surface attack. with only 88m of water your best hope is to escape fast on the surface.
however, like you said, I wouldn't risk it. Theres more fish in the sea.
I have been slaughtered there when I torpedoed a lonely freighter and toke my time to watch her sinking. I neglected the warning that a warship was approaching fast. When she was on top of me another one joined. No way to survive that even in 1940.
NightCrawler
12-24-06, 08:55 AM
In 1939 Escorts are amatures, i had a mission and i sneak/pass a DD and took a BB out...
About the Depth 88? just park ya Uboot on the bottom and shut off the engine and wait(do this only when Escort/DD bothering you)...
Good luck
Boy, that's a toughy...
Being that it's 1941 I would be inclined to attack.
My strategy would be to stalk the convoy at 3 km
or more, set up a shot toward the front of the convoy,
take it, and then launch a salvo toward the rear. I would
then slink away post haste. The key is the range.
I would also use every bit of the 88 meters available ;)
Jimbuna
12-24-06, 12:00 PM
Boy, that's a toughy...
Being that it's 1941 I would be inclined to attack.
My strategy would be to stalk the convoy at 3 km
or more, set up a shot toward the front of the convoy,
take it, and then launch a salvo toward the rear. I would
then slink away post haste. The key is the range.
I would also use every bit of the 88 meters available ;)
Your def a gambler me is thinking lol....beware...if they get a sniff of you 88metres aint much of a pond to hide in :D
Mav87th
12-25-06, 01:33 PM
See if you can use the remaining night to position your self out in front of the CV and about 1500-2000meters to one side of the lead escort (usualy one sails in front marking the center of the CV nicely.
If your patient stay in that position stalking untill the next nightfall.
For the attack i would go into the convoys outer and nextouter lane and shoot at the center lanes. Then i'd submerge to about 20 meters and try to dissappear to the side im placed in. Fire 4 torpedoes from the front - turn for about 125 deg. and shoot the rear torpedo (roughly the escape axis as well). when your out of the convoy and at about 2000-2500 meters from the nearest DD's (dark clouded night) surface and step on the pedal utill your at about 7000 meters (or what ever your visual range is) then setup another stalking/overtake/attack procedure.
To me it seems that DD's will have a harder time to pick you up near the surface, even decks awash sometimes works better for me then submerged. Had a DD pass me at roughly 100 meters the other day - never saw me (mind i never saw him either as i was watching a shot at a target on the other side. I had not noticed that DD prior to shooting:damn: ). I was totally baffled with that he never noticed me:huh:
What ever you decide remember Section I. D # 79 in the U-boat Commander's Handbook
"If operations are carried out at depth of 20m and less, the loss of the submarine must be reckoned with, once it has been detected. But in such cases also, as has been demonstrated by the experience gained in wartime, difficult situations due to pursuit by the enemy may well be mastered, if the commander acts cleverly and coolly, and the crew remains steadfast. (U9 in the spring of 1940, U123 and U333 in the spring of 1942)"
FongFongFong
12-25-06, 02:00 PM
1941 ok
remember slow speeds and silent running.
and somehow the DDs seem somewhat deef if you are near the surface.
peterloo
12-25-06, 10:13 PM
If I were u, I WILL
Attacking convoy is your DUTY and what you are supposed to DO
Even you may DIE, this is your responsibility to attack
88m, for me, is already enough for escaping
Yes, the DDs are smart, but so what? You can sink 'em all before you can sink you (esp. for Type IX/VII)
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