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hyperion2206
12-20-06, 08:39 AM
Does it make a difference which kind of VII I have? In SH3 vanilla all types of the VII had the same specs. Has that changed in GWX? If not I don't really get the point why I should get a VIIc/41 if it has the same specs as my beloved U-49 (VIIb).

LeafsFan
12-20-06, 08:46 AM
IIRC, upgrading from a VIIB to a VIIC or VIIC/41 will give you 2 things, Increased range, and increased crush depth.

HB

SilverGhost
12-20-06, 09:09 AM
In real life, the Type VIIC was almost the same boat from the B...the primary differences being a deeper dive depth and a wee bit heavier and better range. The C/41's were modified with a better bow design (often called the Atlantic Bow) to reduce drag, mine laying ability, some had schnorkels, and the addition of better anti-aircraft defense in the wintergarten...and a deeper dive depth over the C. The deck guns after early '42 were all but gone.

And...in case in you've seen it referenced...the C/42 which was to supercede the C/41 was never produced....production went directly to the D model.

Kpt. Lehmann
12-20-06, 11:48 AM
In the SH3 code and files, there are only TWO Type VII's in truth.

1) VIIB

2) VIIC

All variants of the VIIC (VIIC/41 and VIIC/42) share the exact same in-game characteristics as the regular VIIC with maybe the exception of armament.

This is a game limitation that cannot be fixed without an SDK.

Furthermore, IMHO... the VCII/42 is the most useless sub in the game. It only existed on paper in real life.

hyperion2206
12-20-06, 01:51 PM
In the SH3 code and files, there are only TWO Type VII's in truth.

1) VIIB

2) VIIC

All variants of the VIIC (VIIC/41 and VIIC/42) share the exact same in-game characteristics as the regular VIIC with maybe the exception of armament.

This is a game limitation that cannot be fixed without an SDK.

Furthermore, IMHO... the VCII/42 is the most useless sub in the game. It only existed on paper in real life.

Thanxs for making that clear!:up: At least I know that there is slight difference between the different VII types.:nope:

Jimbuna
12-20-06, 04:23 PM
Furthermore, IMHO... the VCII/42 is the most useless sub in the game. It only existed on paper in real life.

Agree with you on that one Kpt. :yep: :up:

spork542
12-20-06, 04:36 PM
So long as the crush depth for the /42 isn't realistic I agree. And by realistic, I mean ~450 meters. :)

Sailor Steve
12-20-06, 04:37 PM
How can anything be realistic when everything about the boat was theoretical?