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Kapitan_Phillips
12-11-06, 03:13 AM
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1969160,00.html

I want every English SubSimmer to be extra careful out there, okay?

CCIP
12-11-06, 03:39 AM
Bah. At least I hope it's not New Year's.

I'd probably make a joke about paranoia here right now, but a close friend of mine is flying to London for New Year's with her family :-?

The Avon Lady
12-11-06, 03:56 AM
Faster! Faster! (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/014367.php)

UglyMowgli
12-11-06, 04:04 AM
I will shoot every man with a white barb, dress in red with a backpack:).
keep cool if it must happen it will happen

CCIP
12-11-06, 04:05 AM
Oho, they hid the explosives in free headscarves. Insidious :doh:

STEED
12-11-06, 04:45 AM
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1969160,00.html

I want every English SubSimmer to be extra careful out there, okay?

Humbug this statement comes out every year dating right back to the active days of the IRA. Bombs are not the only weapon terrorist use and any way they could strike on any day of the year.

STEED
12-11-06, 04:48 AM
Faster! Faster! (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/014367.php)


According to Daily Express the teaching resource, provided by the Muslim Council of Britain, is intended to provide children aged seven and 11 with information about true Islamic beliefs.


Yea right, A bunch of liberals who don't know the real meaning.

CCIP
12-11-06, 04:56 AM
I have to say of course, leaving Islam alone for a minute - the whole idea of some sort of direct instruction to young kids about religion without their parents' consent sounds like a terrible idea to me. I would be near-violently opposed to it.

But let's not turn it into another religious thread, shall we?

We was talking about bombers, not headscarves. Surely the two aren't always together?

TteFAboB
12-11-06, 05:36 AM
Faster! Faster! (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/014367.php)

Can you feel the nostalgy for the European secular civilization? Me neither, what do they put on their milk?

XabbaRus
12-11-06, 08:33 AM
It's a Scottish conspiracy. John Reid keeps the nation gripped in fear to consolidate the scot boys grip on power :)

Who needs Alex Salmond when you have the three stooges, Brown, Blair and Reid. :rotfl:

STEED
12-11-06, 01:49 PM
Who needs Alex Salmond when you have the three stooges, Brown, Blair and Reid. :rotfl:

And all three could not organise a night out if they tried. ;)

Safe-Keeper
12-11-06, 08:58 PM
What a weird article.
"The threat in this country is very high indeed. It is at the second highest level and people now know that publicly, because we publish it on the web. And that means that it is highly likely that there'll be a terrorist attempt," Mr Reid told GMTV's Sunday programme.There's now a high chance of attack because people know about it?

Someone needs to study sentence construction.

As for the threat itself, yawn. Chances are far, far higher of dying in a motor accident, freak storm, homicide, disease, or other non-terrorist cause, yet I don't see anyone posting warning threads about them. The Huge, Evil, Global Terrorist Threat To End Them All™ is slightly overblown when put into perspective with just about, well...

...

...Anything:shifty:.
I want every English SubSimmer to be extra careful out there, okay?Indeed. There's a lot of real dangers out there.

Tchocky
12-11-06, 10:20 PM
Bloody stupid. Threat level is high, because we say it's high. Rubbish.
And why does he call the IRA republicans? That's like referring to the July 7th bombers as martyrs.....eejit

SUBMAN1
12-12-06, 01:08 AM
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1969160,00.html

I want every English SubSimmer to be extra careful out there, okay?

Yawn. I am more worried about getting hit by lightening.

-S

STEED
12-12-06, 05:25 AM
It’s a good way of putting fear in most people and take there mind off all the money they are going to waste over Xmas, Gordon Brown will have another excuse to say everything is ticker-t-boo. :down:

(Not Me) ;)

The Avon Lady
12-13-06, 12:25 AM
The rain in Spain (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23637_Got_Eleven_in_Spain).

TteFAboB
12-13-06, 03:06 AM
Although there is no doubt terror cells would make a big hit if they managed to carry out an attack during Christmas and there must be somebody out there planning or hoping for the next attack, as evidenced by Avon Lady's link, Christmas itself is currently lying at the crosshairs: unlike terror victims, it has more than one enemy, many of them being supposedly those who should be defending it.

Those who pervert our beliefs/convictions are a greater moral danger than those who deny/oppose them.

Rose
12-13-06, 09:40 PM
Bloody stupid. Threat level is high, because we say it's high. Rubbish.
And why does he call the IRA republicans? That's like referring to the July 7th bombers as martyrs.....eejit

Where does he call the IRA republicans...?

Tchocky
12-14-06, 06:17 PM
Bloody stupid. Threat level is high, because we say it's high. Rubbish.
And why does he call the IRA republicans? That's like referring to the July 7th bombers as martyrs.....eejit
Where does he call the IRA republicans...?

Last paragraph

Rose
12-14-06, 10:08 PM
Oh yeah, sorry, now I see it. Didn't read it carefully enough. But can you please explain? I'm young and ignorant and was born during the very end of the Troubles. But isn't that what the IRA are? Republicans vs. Loyalists. That's what the conflict was... right? I'm not taking any sides. Just need an explanation because I like anything to do with Irish history (of course I don't like the troubles... you know what I mean).

Tchocky
12-15-06, 03:39 PM
No, they are not republicans. They call themselves republicans of course, but can you show me how blowing up a memorial service is in the service of liberty, equality or fraternity?

micky1up
12-15-06, 03:48 PM
the attacks this crimbo started this july the usual onslaught from the big shops comercialising and destroying the crimbo spirt to make us spend a bomb and go into debt

Rose
12-15-06, 03:52 PM
Can you show me how blowing up a memorial service is in the service of liberty, equality or fraternity?

No. No, I cannot. You got me on that one... Guess I just need to look up "republicanism" next time.

XabbaRus
12-15-06, 05:53 PM
Thing is if I was a terrorist I wouldn't go for something big like the PM or even hitting parliament.

If these guys were smart, they'd hit things like supermarkets, supermarket distribution centres.

The major supermarkets only have a few big centres. I think in Scotland Tesco only have about three. How hard would it be ot get a large enough truck, fill it with something explosive and incendiary and in a coordinated attack drive through the front door and blow it up.

hmmm....Answers on a post card.

See the number one hobby in the UK is shopping or so it seems, so if these terrorists really want to hurt the brits hit the shopping centres.

Saying that if they took out IKEA and any other lifestyle store I won't be complaining.

U-533
12-16-06, 06:58 AM
I could never understand why some Brits and some Irish cant get along. It reminds me of some Jews and some Arabs.

Is it a Religious thing?
Is it a Blood fued?
Is it a Government thing?
Is it all of the above?

I'm sure I dont know the details and if I heard the details I couldnt believe them because this BS has gone on for longer than any of us has been alive.
I'm fairly sure that noone knows the original reason for acting as these people do.

OOOHHH sure sure "they took my families property back in 1041 A.D. and killed my some of my family and raped some too"

I guess some people cant flush a toilet. They have to keep a reminder of the past.

Rose
12-16-06, 02:25 PM
"they took my families property back in 1041 A.D. and killed my some of my family and raped some too"


That's basically the gist of it AFAIK (along with a couple of other things)... Stupid really.

micky1up
12-16-06, 04:09 PM
I could never understand why some Brits and some Irish cant get along. It reminds me of some Jews and some Arabs.

Is it a Religious thing?
Is it a Blood fued?
Is it a Government thing?
Is it all of the above?

I'm sure I dont know the details and if I heard the details I couldnt believe them because this BS has gone on for longer than any of us has been alive.
I'm fairly sure that noone knows the original reason for acting as these people do.

OOOHHH sure sure "they took my families property back in 1041 A.D. and killed my some of my family and raped some too"

I guess some people cant flush a toilet. They have to keep a reminder of the past.


its all about history and some peoples lack of ability to get past it and over it partialy because its instilled at a very young age into people by there parents live in the now not the past and things willl get better

Rose
12-17-06, 06:37 PM
"they took my families property back in 1041 A.D. and killed my some of my family and raped some too"


That's basically the gist of it AFAIK (along with a couple of other things)... Stupid really.

I'm going to revise this statement a little. I think it's really more to do with the fact that the British gov't (specifically Lord Trevelyan) during the famine withheld corn surplus from the Irish (that the Irish had farmed themselves) so they could export it for profit. If Trevelyan had not done this, the Irish would have been relatively well off. Instead, the British gov't starved 200,000 Irish souls :nope:. That is where the deep roots of hatred come from (but come on, that was 150 years ago). The IRA use this, among other things, as an excuse to blow up innocents.

I'm all for a united Ireland, but there must be some other way.

Tchocky
12-17-06, 09:14 PM
"they took my families property back in 1041 A.D. and killed my some of my family and raped some too"

That's basically the gist of it AFAIK (along with a couple of other things)... Stupid really.
I'm going to revise this statement a little. I think it's really more to do with the fact that the British gov't (specifically Lord Trevelyan) during the famine withheld corn surplus from the Irish (that the Irish had farmed themselves) so they could export it for profit. If Trevelyan had not done this, the Irish would have been relatively well off. Instead, the British gov't starved 200,000 Irish souls :nope:. That is where the deep roots of hatred come from (but come on, that was 150 years ago). The IRA use this, among other things, as an excuse to blow up innocents.

I'm all for a united Ireland, but there must be some other way.

Actually British/Irish anomosity lasted past 1041 :roll:. Ireland has only been independent from Britain for just over eighty years.

The Famine, or An Gorta Mor, was not engineered by the British, but they did nothing to help. The main reason for the British military presence in Ireland was to safeguard the food & livestock shipments. The Famine would have been devastating anyway, but the British involvement was negligible, hence some resentment. They could have done so much. And your figures are a little off. the consensus is that between 750,000 and 1 million died between 1845-49.
Also, even if these shipments had not been flowing out of the country every day, the people would not have been "relatively well off". The system of inheritance was egalitarian instead of primogenitural (sp?), each son would get a part of the family land, as opposed to the first born. This brought a lot of people down to subsistence farming. Emigration was already high, and during the Famine over 10% of the population just left.

The IRA (as we know know it) was a reaction to the British presence in Northern Ireland. A sectarian state existed, with a discrimatory police force. I'm not defending the IRA, but they werent blowing up pubs in Belfast because of the Famine.

As regards a united Ireland, I don't understand it. The very fact that 60-70% of those living in Northern Ireland dont want to become part of the Republic speaks for itself. The economic mess that the North has become, along with the success of the South, warns against taking in a crippled economy.

and the minor point that North & South have only ever been unified under one ruler: the British Crown. Who the hell cares?

tycho102
12-18-06, 02:58 PM
I don't know enough about the animosity between Ireland and Britain to make a call on this one.

I do know that protestants and Catholics would be fending against sharia law the way Britain is.

The Noob
12-20-06, 02:28 PM
So weird al wasn't wrong like at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_CP3OKWGYE

The Avon Lady
12-22-06, 05:33 AM
A summary of the holiday season threats from Jihad Watch (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/12/21/attacks-for-the-holidays/).

STEED
12-23-06, 05:55 AM
We should all be cautious but all so get on with are lives, these terrorists can strike on any day of the year and we must not go around in fear. Live your life's to the full and never give in to fear.