WIP-IX Weathered - Your Opinion Please

[danlisa]

The IXB, IXC & IXD2 are now released....

JSGME Ready
IXB
http://files.filefront.com/IXB_Weathered7z/;6144138;;/fileinfo.html

IXC
http://files.filefront.com/IXC_Weathered7z/;6144229;;/fileinfo.html

IXD2 Light Decking
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3LGYICWA
http://files.filefront.com/IXD2_Weathered_Light_Deck7z/;6150458;;/fileinfo.html

IXD2 Dark Decking
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IGSHIGMC
http://files.filefront.com/IXD2_Weathered_Dark_Deck7z/;6150398;;/fileinfo.html

Both IXD2 Versions now available on Terrapins site (Thank you:up: )
http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/

GWX Ready Versions

IXB - http://files.filefront.com/GWX_IXB_W.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_IXB_Weatheredrar/;6398248;;/fileinfo.html)
IXC - http://files.filefront.com/GWX_IXC_W.../fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/GWX_IXC_Weatheredrar/;6398327;;/fileinfo.html)

Please Enjoy
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I am trying to skin the IX boats with a view to make them more realistic in terms of patrol length. This will include weathering and a suitable camo/colouring to depict a long time at sea.

Please ignore the water colour as it seems that I have nerf'd my scene dat which currently gives me Med water across the globe:doh:

As this is a WIP I have not started the conning towers yet. I need to know that I'm heading in the right direction.

I am looking for feedback regarding the boats colour and weathering effects.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7867/ixweathernb5.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/104/ixweather2ok5.jpg

Your opinion is required, please.

[Ducimus]

I think fubar better look out, he's got some good competition. Looks REALLY nice so far. I so wish i had the same artistic capablty. Unfortunatly as modding goes ive always been a logic sort of a guy, and not creative enough for work like this. Again looks awesome.

[danlisa]

I thought that you might be first in Ducimus, I'm happy with it too. I shall continue with this IXB version first then show the completed boat before starting on the IXC & IXD2.

The only thing I'm not convinced about is the camo stripes, maybe I'll have a play with those.

[GT182]

I agree... looks very nice. :up:

If you can, please make them JSGME compatable. Much easier for us with the dreaded "intalling impaired" syndrome. Besides, it's much safer too for SHIII. ;)

[melnibonian]

Wow it looks really nice. I'm looking forward to use it :up: :up: :up:

[Jimbuna]

Very nice dan :up: ....I take your point about the camo stripes :hmm: ....any plans for just 'grey/weathered' in future work ? :up:

[Ducimus]

The only thing I'm not convinced about is the camo stripes, maybe I'll have a play with those.

For an excellent reference on uboat painting , heres a link Jones gave in another thread if you havent D/L'ed it already:
http://www.rocketcopy.biz/models/rokket/uboat/images/uboat_colours.pdf


Personally, i think Camo stripes in general,are to break up a ships outline, its silloutte. Its not like a boat can hide behind a bush and blend in with its surroundings. So the general purpose is to break up the ship's sillloute or otherwise make it hard to find a range or AOB on. The "dazzle" camoflauge from WW1 is an example of this.

The stock 9c skin, i think is a spin on this theme.
http://www.ducimus.net/sh3/stock9c.jpg
The purpose of the scheme, seems to be to present several false bow wave. I don't know if its historical or not.

As a comparision, heres a grey paint job, althoguh i must note that i didnt posiition the camera in the exact same position as the first screenshot so the breakup of the boats outline in the first picture will be exaggerated a little.
http://www.ducimus.net/sh3/grey9c.jpg

Now, having said all that. The reality is, whatever camo you put on a boat in SH3 isn't goign to fool anyone, so you could argubly take a little more artistic liberty with it.

[danlisa]

Thanks for that PDF Ducimus, I'll read it while I continue work. Just had a quick scan and it looks to have a wealth of info regarding colours etc.

Thanks:rock:

[mr chris]

Must say top top work yet again Danlisa:yep: :up:
I look forward to your skins. As Ducimus says you really have a talent for this.:yep:

[danlisa]

Small update for you.

Here is a semi-finished IXB with Conning Tower 1. It's funny that the skins all look different depending on the sunlight conditions. This time we're in English waters.

From the Bridge:
Note - I'm going to revert the wood paneling back to default as it is too dark. I also need to find out where the texture is for the radio antenna is. Any ideas?
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9130/ixweather4pn2.jpg

Side of bridge:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3545/ixweather5oc0.jpg

Full view:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5504/ixweather3fz0.jpg

Now, does anyone know where the textures are for the guns on the deck. They are not governed by the textures in GUNS_SUB.DAT (UFlak_High.tga or Typ21_20mm_UFlak.tga)

[Ducimus]

Radio annteinna is in "Conning_stuff.tga". Its in the both the sensors.dat and whatever conning tower you happen to be using. ALthough, the game seems to only take into account of the one in sensors.dat.

Now, does anyone know where the textures are for the guns on the deck. They are not governed by the textures in GUNS_SUB.DAT (UFlak_High.tga or Typ21_20mm_UFlak.tga)

I could swear the The deck guns is "UFlak_High.tga" and its in the Guns_sub.dat.

ALthough it could be governed by conning_stuff.tga as its the only one your missing it seems.


btw, its looking really damn good. I particuarlly like the coloring on the UZO instead of the usual white color.

[danlisa]

....Although, the game seems to only take into account of the one in sensors.dat.

Didn't know that, Ta:up:

The deck guns is i beleive "UFlak_High.tga" and its in the Guns_sub.dat

Yeah, I did re-texture those, however, they didn't take, maybe I screwed the re-pack. Will check.

[stabiz]

Johooo! We now have another certified skinner! (Warms my heart, since I`m a skin-o-file)

Love it, dan. :up:

PS: What about rust?

[danlisa]

Techinally, there is rust there. As I have used the DAT's from my GW1.1a install, my skins have fubar's excellent work as a base.(under all of that somewhere)

However, I could add more rust.:hmm:

[danlisa]

Guns are sorted.

FYI - Gun textures must be included in a texture folder. They will not enable just by re-packing the dat.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3104/ixweather6nx2.jpg

Now then, 2 more conning towers & 2 more Hulls to go, then all done. Phew.

Note to self, must be finished with this by Wednesday.;)

Edit - I wonder if GWX has changed anything that might affect these skins:hmm: I hope not.

[Jimbuna]

OMG :o ...bloody fantastic dan...you should be very pleased with this :up: :rock:

[_Seth_]

danlisa, excellent work!!! You are truly good at this!!! But watch out: Im reading your skinning tutorial, and you will soon have some healthy competition (i hope....:roll:):rotfl:

Keep up the good work!!!! :up::up:

[melnibonian]

This is FANTASTIC. Brilliant job. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Where can we download it????

[GT182]

Again, very nice Dan. :up: Especially the weathered look. :up: :up:

OT: Has anyone firured it out for the radio loop antenna to go up and down yet? Or even permanently up? Subs just look funny surfaced and no antenna showing. Besides, we shouldn't even be able to send radio messages without it in the up position.

[Ducimus]

Guns are sorted.

FYI - Gun textures must be included in a texture folder. They will not enable just by re-packing the dat.

......

Edit - I wonder if GWX has changed anything that might affect these skins:hmm: I hope not.


Repacking the dat' its very finicky.Ive managed to repack the guns.dat. It might be worth nothing that I only use the chessmaster tool (datTexExtract.exe) ,and it yells at you when everythigns not perfect. It expects things at a certain color bit. Any transparency in the background of the TGA throws it off, it wont accept it. But anyway, having reduced the texture resolution to stock, and using a color bit it accepts, ive repacked it on my own drive and it seems to works fine. Its just REALLY DAMN PICKY ABOUT IT is all.

As an aside I highly doubt GWX will effect the usablity of your skins. Im 99.99999% sure that they wont. Infact, i'll bet if you showed the Lehmann those skins, you might be able to get them included in GWX's final release - they LOOK THAT GOOD! The worst case scenario is you might not be able to repack them into a dat of hex addresses have changed, thereby throwing dat packing tools off. But i HIGHLY doubt that. THe GW team has been repacking the dats to clear as many textures as they can out of the tex directory to improve the games performance.

Again, great job, im really loving what you've shown so far!

[Reich]

Help! I recently got a new 64 Bit system and SHIII will not run at all, even to install! Can anyone in here offer ANY suggestions as to what I should do next. As I understand it SHIII has a known problem running under Win. XP Home under 64 bit. I am totally out of options here...HELP!!:damn:

[danlisa]

This is FANTASTIC. Brilliant job. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Where can we download it????

I'm glad you like it, I have to finish the other 2 towers and yet to start the IXC & IXD2. I want to release these all together as the final effect was to create semi-realistic skins for the long range patrol boats, and as Ducimus has already stated each boat shares the 3 conning towers so they must match.


Ive managed to repack the guns.dat. It might be worth nothing that I only use the chessmaster tool (datTexExtract.exe) ,and it yells at you when everythigns not perfect. It expects things at a certain color bit. Any transparency in the background of the TGA throws it off.....

I use the chessmaster tool too and the Gun textures were re-packed with no errors. I even un-packed them again to make sure the correct textures were in there. All was correct but they didn't enable in game.

As an aside I highly doubt GWX will effect the usablity of your skins. Im 99.99999% sure that they wont.

This is good to know:up:

i'll bet if you showed the Lehmann those skins, you might be able to get them included in GWX's final release - they LOOK THAT GOOD!

It's nice to know that you consider this to be GWX worthy, however, GWX is at a critical time at the moment and I don't want to bother them with this. If they want them they can of course have them, I just don't want to hold them up as I still have some work to do.

[Razman23]

From the Bridge:
Note - I'm going to revert the wood paneling back to default as it is too dark. I also need to find out where the texture is for the radio antenna is. Any ideas?
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9130/ixweather4pn2.jpg



Due to the harsh environment of the saltwater, marine vessels usually use Teak or Mohagany on their decks. However they did not varnish them as they wanted them to act as a non slip surface. So what would happen is that the wood itself would turn to a light gray (grey) colour.

Do a image google on sailboats and you will see what Teak trim looks like when it greys out.

Hope this helps you.

[danlisa]

All 3 Conning towers and the IXB are complete, moving on to the IXC.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/174/ixbfinalml5.jpg

I 'washed' out some of the colouring on the wood trim.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4516/ixbfinal2gp3.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6356/ixbfinal3al8.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ixbfinal3al8.jpg)

[Ducimus]

Unless your going all out, IXC shouldn't take ya anymore time then it takes to rename the files :D edit: how rude of me.. LOOKS AWESOME. ME WANTS!

[danlisa]

Do you know what else I noticed, the last two conning towers have the same texture template. I really wish I was a bit quicker picking up an that.:doh:

Are you telling me that the blasted IXC hull is the same as the IXB. Oh Bugger:damn: :damn:

Oh well nobody likes repetition.:D

[Ducimus]

=( I thought you knew that. I suppose if you want to be upset you can yell at me, i assumed you knew what used what textures, otherwise i would have said something.

Anyway, yes, IX/1 uses i think turm9c_1.tga IX/2 and IX/3 towers both use turm9C.tga


Now techncially speaking the IXB and IXC use different textures. I think its NSSUboat9b.tga and NSSUboat9c.tga. All you really need to do is copy one file, and rename it as the other.

Now that said, as you said yoruself, nobody likes repitition. I dont see it as wasted effort. The IX2 tower skin you did it can remain unique by simply packing it into a dat. You can have two different turm9c.tga, because the tower will first use whatever texture its packaged with.

[Jimbuna]

:o Looking really good dan :rock: ...just in time for GWX (after beta testing of course) :up:

[danlisa]

IXB & IXC finished, both have unique skins. What do you think, release in this thread or start a new one? I don't know how to change this thread title.

IXB
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1449/ixbfinaltu7.jpg

IXC
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4882/ixcfinalla5.jpg

I'll think of something special for the IXD2 (which is my favorite boat).

[AG124]

They both look good to me. :yep: :up:

As for the thread title, I don't think that it can be changed.:nope: Maybe a moderator has time to change it for you if you really wanted it done.

[Ducimus]

:up: :up:

[danlisa]

Release for the Weathered IXB & IXC. JSGME Ready

I'd like to thank Fubar whose excellent skins were used as a base from GW1.1a.:yep:

And Ducimus, who had the nerve to ask if I did requests:up:

IXB
http://files.filefront.com/IXB_Weathered7z/;6144138;;/fileinfo.html

IXC
http://files.filefront.com/IXC_Weathered7z/;6144229;;/fileinfo.html

If someone with a faster up speed than 21Kb/s would like to mirror them, then please go ahead.

Enjoy

[Ducimus]

Oh i can't wait to get home and D/L those skins :D

Yeah, that Ducimus character.. that joker's got a lot of damn nerve, he's a damn punk! If i ever meet him in real life, im gonna give him a piece of my mind! The nerve of that ungrateful bastard to ask if you do requests! The gall in that ! geeez!

[stabiz]

:()1:This boat (IXC) is going to take me to America!

[danlisa]

The IX boats look like they have metal deck plates whereas I have seen an image of a VIIB/C & IIA with wooden decking.

Is this the case or did the IX boats have wood too?

[Jimbuna]

Gotta say you got two beuties there dan...really looking forward to the IXD2 now :up: :rock: :rock:

[melnibonian]

They both look gorgeous :up: :up: :up:

I can't wait to finish up the lectures I have to give today and go home and try them. :D :D

[Ducimus]

The IX boats look like they have metal deck plates whereas I have seen an image of a VIIB/C & IIA with wooden decking.

Is this the case or did the IX boats have wood too?


http://www.donet.com/~danderson/bombe/images/u505_3243x3.jpg
http://www.military-collections.com/U-505%20photos/U5054.jpg
http://uboat.net/photos/u505-damages.jpg
http://static.aspiretoinspire.org/assets/images/chicago/moc/moc-0006-u505-large.jpg
http://www.ccadesign.com/images/8.05portU505_04.jpg



Wierd. Looking at the older photo's youd swear it looked like a metal deck. The newer photo's are clearly wood. Either it was always wood, or at some point the deck was replaced/modernized by the muesem.

[danlisa]

Thanks a lot Ducimus. I think my IXD2 is now going to have a wooden deck.

Do you still have that link you posted awhile back showing a video with the IXD2?

[GT182]

Dan, the decks were wood but the preservate used made them look almost black. After awhile I imagine they became weathered and showed lighter. But not as they would be before preserved, just a faded black.

I don't have the link but I did read that on a Uboat site the other day. Someone had a link for it.

[Ducimus]

Thanks a lot Ducimus. I think my IXD2 is now going to have a wooden deck.

Do you still have that link you posted awhile back showing a video with the IXD2?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg_LJQu2B2s

[danlisa]

Update for the IXD2. This is my favorite boat and as such I have gone all out on this one. There are two versions as I'm unsure about the decking effect.

IXD2 Weathered + Brand New Decking
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7398/ixd2weatheredsideni2.jpg

IXD2 Weathered + Bleached Decking
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/2843/ixd2lightdecknv5.jpg

These are finished, but rapidshare is telling me it's full & filefront's upload server is down for maintenance.

Anyone know of a decent file host?

[stabiz]

I want them both!

Try this one:

http://www.megaupload.com/

[Ducimus]

Did i say i was going to take an IXC out soon? Hmmm i think i said IXD2 ;)

[danlisa]

I want them both!

Try this one:

http://www.megaupload.com/

Thanks mate:up:

Did i say i was going to take an IXC out soon? Hmmm i think i said IXD2

Mask tga's are included at no extra cost:up:

[WilhelmSchulz.]

I should say the Bleached deckng is better. :up:

[danlisa]

IXD2 Light Decking
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3LGYICWA

IXD2 Dark Decking
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IGSHIGMC

Please Enjoy:D

[Alex]

Amazing work, thanks !!!!! :rock:

[Lupo]

hi!
thank you!!!:arrgh!:

mfg lupo!

[danlisa]

IXD2 Now up on filefront

IXD2 Light Decking
http://files.filefront.com/IXD2_Weathered_Light_Deck7z/;6150458;;/fileinfo.html

IXD2 Dark Decking
http://files.filefront.com/IXD2_Weathered_Dark_Deck7z/;6150398;;/fileinfo.html

Both IXD2 Versions available on Terrapins site:up:
http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/

Thanks

[Jimbuna]

Thanks again dan...stirling work :up: :rock: :rock: :rock:

[melnibonian]

All of the skins are great :up: :up: :up:

Thanks a lot for all your effort and hard work :up:

Now I can sail to Japan (on a IXD2) in style :D :D :D :D

[The Noob]

Are those great skins comatiple with GW if installed with JSGME? :hmm: :D :up:

[danlisa]

Are those great skins comatiple with GW if installed with JSGME? :hmm: :D :up:

Good question Noob, I should have said.

These are compatible with GW and should be compatible with Stock.

I am 99% certain they are NOT compatible with NYGM 2.2 as I remember DTB having to make Fubar's skins NYGM ready.

[GT182]

MegaUpload site works nice, better than FileFront for me at least. Another is FileHippo that seems to work good.

[Jimbuna]

Are those great skins comatiple with GW if installed with JSGME? :hmm: :D :up:

Good question Noob, I should have said.

These are compatible with GW and should be compatible with Stock.

I am 99% certain they are NOT compatible with NYGM 2.2 as I remember DTB having to make Fubar's skins NYGM ready.

THEY MOST CERTAINLY ARE (compatible) using them on 2 different careers...and they certainly :rock:

[Zinmar]

Have you given any thoughts about doing the VII's?

[thegroo]

Thank you for this great skins.:up:

Regards
Dieter

[FIREWALL]

Thx danlisa for great skins.:rock: I'm currently useing your IXC winter camo.
I'm tempted to upgrade to IXD2. Wish i could use them on current boat.

[Sgt Swanson]

Thankj you for all your hard work sir.:up:

[Mast]

Excellent work danlisa!

Downloading your skins now. :up:

Mast

[kapitanfred]

Bloomin Magic stuff. Now if all Types could be done that would be "Absolute Bloomin Magic stuff" :up: :up: :up:

[danlisa]

Bloomin Magic stuff. Now if all Types could be done that would be "Absolute Bloomin Magic stuff" :up: :up: :up:

I'm working on it.:up:

[Myxale]

Fubars skins are the best but no Boot stays that fresh all the time!
;)
The skins are awesome! Kudos for you work! Its no overkill in weathering but no fresh painting either! Everything fits!:rock:

Just one noobish question: DO they work well with GWX (and for my other install with NYGM)?

[danlisa]

Just one noobish question: DO they work well with GWX (and for my other install with NYGM)?
Here are the IXB & IXC skins for use in GWX (textures only & JSGME Ready). Also, they should work in NYGM as they are only textures.

IXB - http://files.filefront.com/GWX_IXB_Weatheredrar/;6398248;;/fileinfo.html
IXC - http://files.filefront.com/GWX_IXC_Weatheredrar/;6398327;;/fileinfo.html

I'll get round to u/l the IXD2 eventually.

Enjoy.:D

First post updated.

[Jimbuna]

I'll get round to u/l the IXD2 eventually.

I should bloody well think so!! :arrgh!:
:rotfl: :up:

[danlisa]

I'll get round to u/l the IXD2 eventually.
I should bloody well think so!! :arrgh!:
:rotfl: :up:

I have Jedi Master duties to perform;) plus I'm nearly done with a new set of skins.

[Jimbuna]

I'll get round to u/l the IXD2 eventually.
I should bloody well think so!! :arrgh!:
:rotfl: :up:

I have Jedi Master duties to perform;) plus I'm nearly done with a new set of skins.

Well don't tire yersel out cos I could be calling sooner than ya think lol ...tell the missus to chill the cans ;)

[WilhelmSchulz.]

Update for the IXD2. This is my favorite boat and as such I have gone all out on this one. There are two versions as I'm unsure about the decking effect.

IXD2 Weathered + Bleached Decking
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/2843/ixd2lightdecknv5.jpg

Anyone know of a decent file host?

Ok im bumping a realy old thread here but that skin would work historicly with the Monsoon group flotilla(10th) in GWX.:up:

[FIREWALL]

Don't ask. Your work is always killer. :up: :up: :up:

[rascal101]

Doubtless I'll get a spanking for this but...........here is a thought and perhaps a plea.

As we charge about the Atlantic in our fabulous submersible steeds, sinking and burning everything we meet, we're usually in map view or in the conning tower or staring at our next victim through the perescope.

Now if that is the case, why do we spend so much time on skins for our subs when surely its skins for the merchants we should be knocking into shape, afterall we look at them more than we look at ourselves!!

I recon Iambecomelife is on the right track and he has, or is producing the best skins by far in this regard. I dont have one tenth his skills but I'm going to try if nothing else to filthy up the asorted range of rubber ducks we've inherited from the vanilla game, I hope others may follow

I hope this little rant has not offended any one, cos no offence was intended

Regards
R

[nikbear]

Just remembered this thread and wondered if Danlisa ever did the other skins he mentioned and did he ever do updates for the others for GWX:hmm: Such a talent and no more skins:nope: ,We need more Dan:up: :yep:

[nikbear]

I've checked out his filefront page and he did do GWX updates:up:

[Jimbuna]

Dan is busy on GWX v1.04 at the mo. Please don't heap too much praise on him cos his head is just small enough to fit in the conning tower hatch and there isn't enough time prior to release to design a bigger one :nope:

:rotfl: :rotfl: