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Oberon · 02-03-10, 06:07 PM

Fall Gelb
10th May 1940

On the morning of 10 May 1940 the Dutch awoke to the sound of aircraft engines roaring in the sky. Nazi Germany had commenced operation Fall Gelb and attacked the Netherlands, Belgium, France and Luxembourg; in the case of the Low Countries without a declaration of war given before hostilities; France already was at war.

Task Force · 02-03-10, 06:18 PM

formation flying.

more formation.

landing.

HUNTER!

MORE HUNTER!!!

EVEN MORE HUNTER!!!

Oberon · 02-03-10, 06:23 PM

First mission.
Patrol above airfield and defend against enemy fighters. A group of Me110s attacked and a few were shot down. Task Force forgot he was flying a gravity pump carburetter aircraft and pushed forward hard and had to bail out.

Second mission.
Escort bombers and suppress enemy air defences. All pilots received a sprinkling of AAA, Oberon and Hunter in particular. Hunter crashed at high speed but his plane proved to be a real tough Fokker and he survived. Oberon waited until getting back to base to smash his undercarriage off. Schroeder and Task Force displayed Luftwaffe-esque precision formation flying whilst two AI nosedived into the end of the runway.
This war should go well...

Oberon's sieve

Luftwaffe spies?

Seconds before nosedive

Raptor1 · 02-04-10, 12:15 AM

Oh no...

Oberon · 02-04-10, 03:41 AM

Oh yes.

The Fokker is actually quite a nice little aircraft. Slow, lightly armed but fairly rugged. I love the sliding window on the left hand side, like I said last night, you could stick your elbow out of the window trucker style

Raptor1 · 02-04-10, 09:41 AM

Since the real battle lasted only 4 days (8 if one includes the Zeeland campaign), I would assume this would be a rather short campaign.

What map does it use?

Oberon · 02-04-10, 10:38 AM

Memel, IIRC.

There's about fifteen missions in total I think, so I should imagine that we'll wind up withdrawing to Zeeland and ending the campaign there on the 17th.

Raptor1 · 02-04-10, 11:58 AM

Ah, apparently even if I would've shown up yesterday, I couldn't play. My video card sabotage was more serious than I thought and now I have to completely reformat my computer (Not that it wasn't way overdue for that anyway).

Oberon · 02-04-10, 12:12 PM

Ouch!!

Schroeder · 02-04-10, 01:15 PM

Cheese in the pixel pipelines?

Task Force · 02-04-10, 07:19 PM

lol! raptors gpu was a spy all along...

anyway... I gotta get use to this new Fokker... negative Gs.

heres a nice problem for you.

TF+Fokker+Negative Gs-engine= OAH CRAP!!! lol

Schroeder · 02-05-10, 07:16 AM

You can do negative Gs but you have to go to idle throttle before you do it.

I already fear the day they are sending some 109s our way.

Oberon · 02-05-10, 06:38 PM

Sorry I wasn't there tonight guys, I was watching Lost and getting very.

Might be there next Friday, might not, probably not if that's when they're going to start showing it. Will be back Monday though. Been looking through campaigns to go to after Holland, there was one good looking Defence of the Reich one but it was a no-way points one sadly

Got a nice looking single player campaign for the 110 though, Murmansk to Morocco so we'll see how that goes.
I think we definitely need to consider the Moving Dogfight idea for perhaps one of the three days we fly. Perhaps Campaign one day, Moving DF the next and Standard DF the other, that way it makes campaigns last a bit longer whilst still giving us a laugh.

Task Force · 02-05-10, 06:42 PM

Today we did a dogfight thingy... ended im me crashing into there carrier alot. lol

Oberon · 02-05-10, 06:48 PM

Oh, and one other thing I noticed.

Task Force, you might want to look at your bombing, I noticed in our last dogfights that you were dropping fine but the bombs were bouncing along the ground for about fifty meters or so before exploding. Skip bombing I think it's called when its done deliberately and at sea, however you were missing your target of the parked planes. You might want to drop at a lower speed or at a steeper angle. Skip bombing is fine if you're going to hit a building or a wall (I think that's what they did to hit the outer walls during Operation Jericho) however for something like a plane or tank it won't work unless the bomb makes direct impact with the target. I probably do it myself without realising it, in fact I didn't even know IL2 modeled such things until I saw it during the replay!

I think the fuses also matter, perhaps lowering the time delay on them depending on what target you're going to hit, perhaps a steep dive attack with a zero fuse might work better, just not a low altitude level attack with a zero fuse like the one I pulled with my first airborne F-86!

Peace!

02-03-10, 06:07 PM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Cheese-waffles Fall Gelb *10th May 1940* On the morning of 10 May 1940 the Dutch awoke to the sound of aircraft engines roaring in the sky. Nazi Germany had commenced operation Fall Gelb and attacked the Netherlands, Belgium, France and Luxembourg; in the case of the Low Countries without a declaration of war given before hostilities; France already was at war.

02-03-10, 06:18 PM	#2
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	formation flying. more formation. landing. HUNTER! MORE HUNTER!!! EVEN MORE HUNTER!!! __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

02-04-10, 12:15 AM	#4
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Oh no... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

02-04-10, 09:41 AM	#6
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Since the real battle lasted only 4 days (8 if one includes the Zeeland campaign), I would assume this would be a rather short campaign. What map does it use? __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

02-04-10, 11:58 AM	#8
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Ah, apparently even if I would've shown up yesterday, I couldn't play. My video card sabotage was more serious than I thought and now I have to completely reformat my computer (Not that it wasn't way overdue for that anyway). __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

02-03-10, 06:23 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	First mission. Patrol above airfield and defend against enemy fighters. A group of Me110s attacked and a few were shot down. Task Force forgot he was flying a gravity pump carburetter aircraft and pushed forward hard and had to bail out. Second mission. Escort bombers and suppress enemy air defences. All pilots received a sprinkling of AAA, Oberon and Hunter in particular. Hunter crashed at high speed but his plane proved to be a real tough Fokker and he survived. Oberon waited until getting back to base to smash his undercarriage off. Schroeder and Task Force displayed Luftwaffe-esque precision formation flying whilst two AI nosedived into the end of the runway. This war should go well... Oberon's sieve Luftwaffe spies? Seconds before nosedive

02-04-10, 03:41 AM	#5
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Oh yes. The Fokker is actually quite a nice little aircraft. Slow, lightly armed but fairly rugged. I love the sliding window on the left hand side, like I said last night, you could stick your elbow out of the window trucker style

02-04-10, 10:38 AM	#7
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Memel, IIRC. There's about fifteen missions in total I think, so I should imagine that we'll wind up withdrawing to Zeeland and ending the campaign there on the 17th.

02-04-10, 12:12 PM	#9
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Ouch!!

02-04-10, 01:15 PM	#10
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Cheese in the pixel pipelines? __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

02-04-10, 07:19 PM	#11
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	lol! raptors gpu was a spy all along... anyway... I gotta get use to this new Fokker... negative Gs. heres a nice problem for you. TF+Fokker+Negative Gs-engine= OAH CRAP!!! lol __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

02-05-10, 07:16 AM	#12
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	You can do negative Gs but you have to go to idle throttle before you do it. I already fear the day they are sending some 109s our way. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

02-05-10, 06:38 PM	#13
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Sorry I wasn't there tonight guys, I was watching Lost and getting very. Might be there next Friday, might not, probably not if that's when they're going to start showing it. Will be back Monday though. Been looking through campaigns to go to after Holland, there was one good looking Defence of the Reich one but it was a no-way points one sadly Got a nice looking single player campaign for the 110 though, Murmansk to Morocco so we'll see how that goes. I think we definitely need to consider the Moving Dogfight idea for perhaps one of the three days we fly. Perhaps Campaign one day, Moving DF the next and Standard DF the other, that way it makes campaigns last a bit longer whilst still giving us a laugh.

02-05-10, 06:42 PM	#14
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Today we did a dogfight thingy... ended im me crashing into there carrier alot. lol __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

02-05-10, 06:48 PM	#15
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Oh, and one other thing I noticed. Task Force, you might want to look at your bombing, I noticed in our last dogfights that you were dropping fine but the bombs were bouncing along the ground for about fifty meters or so before exploding. Skip bombing I think it's called when its done deliberately and at sea, however you were missing your target of the parked planes. You might want to drop at a lower speed or at a steeper angle. Skip bombing is fine if you're going to hit a building or a wall (I think that's what they did to hit the outer walls during Operation Jericho) however for something like a plane or tank it won't work unless the bomb makes direct impact with the target. I probably do it myself without realising it, in fact I didn't even know IL2 modeled such things until I saw it during the replay! I think the fuses also matter, perhaps lowering the time delay on them depending on what target you're going to hit, perhaps a steep dive attack with a zero fuse might work better, just not a low altitude level attack with a zero fuse like the one I pulled with my first airborne F-86! Peace!