Radar Withdrawl

howler93 · 03-03-08, 05:10 PM

Still waiting for my expansion pack to arrive, but I just realized that I'm not going to have anything like an equivalent to SJ radar when I head out for my German patrols, right? It's been a long time since I played SH3, and I always played in the Type VII, but am I correct in assuming that the U-Boat Missions subs available for the Germans will be WITHOUT surface sweep radar? What will I do? I'm addicted!

Hope most of you are enjoying the add-on!

Good hunting,
Howler

P.S. Not to mention the PK!! How did I ever manage to sink ships without it? I'm going to need to return to basic manual targeting school in u-boats!

Saintaw · 03-04-08, 02:14 AM

So far, I've seen two radar versions, none seem to work like 10% of the US one (TM version).

Zantham · 03-04-08, 12:39 PM

The German radar seems to pick up planes pretty nicely giving you enough time to dive, but its surface ability is definitely not as good as the US radar. My crew often spots ships before the radar does... at least before the radar guy reports them anyways. This is using the advanced radar that comes in the XVIII.

Factor · 03-04-08, 12:48 PM

my radar cant even detect planes in 1943. i have the upgrade, but, planes are spotted by my crew with no radar contact at all.

and yes, the radar in on.

CCIP · 03-04-08, 12:55 PM

Actually the IXD2 comes with the FuMO-29 by default, which just sweeps 20 degrees in front of the sub. You can upgrade to FuMO-30 pretty quickly. I find it picks up ships just outside of visual range, so certainly not as good as the US radar and reading it yourself is certainly not as nice as the US radar scope.

For air contacts etc., the radar detector (i.e. FuMB) is probably a better friend

And yea, German radar was definitely ways behind the US radar. That was probably the fleet boats' greatest advantage. Mind you, in the game we're probably better supplied with radar right now than the real U-boats were. Most of the monsoon boats didn't have any radar at all.

FuddCS · 03-04-08, 01:01 PM

Well, german subs have very good sonar. I use it a lot. Every hour or so i dive to 25 meters and listen for a while. Works better than radar imho.

Zantham · 03-04-08, 01:06 PM

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reading it yourself is certainly not as nice as the US radar scope.

Have you gotten the latest radar (can't remember the name) it uses a 360 view instead of the ocilliscope display. Tho I'd still say its not as effective as the US radar for sure.

howler93 · 03-04-08, 02:02 PM

So, have you u-boat skippers run into any problems with using time compression without the added benefits of good surface radar? For example, coming out of TC to find you're being shelled by an Iowa class battleship?

I'm just wondering if I should plan on using TC less as a German u-boat skipper...

Thanks,
Howler

Zantham · 03-04-08, 02:45 PM

Not specifically no. I've been caught by planes a few times now and again in high TC, but so far my watch crew seems to spot ships before they spot me, even with high TC on.

howler93 · 03-04-08, 04:10 PM

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so far my watch crew seems to spot ships before they spot me, even with high TC on.

Just what I was hoping to hear. Thanks! My CD just arrived not 10 minutes ago! I'm anxious to get home and explore!

SuperCavitation · 03-06-08, 04:19 PM

Also, there is an officer who will appear in port from time to time whose "ability" is to enhance radar range/capability. He is well worth the reknown. My watch crew were the only decent eyeballs I had until I got that officer.

Schnee · 03-06-08, 11:23 PM

The latest German Radars/Threat detectors available in early '44 don't seem too bad. Not up to the stuff you get on the Fleet Boat side but useful enough to be worth spending the renown to upgrade to. particularly the threat detectors. they allow you plenty of warning to dive if need be.

03-03-08, 05:10 PM	#1
howler93 Medic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Telluride, Colorado Posts: 162 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Radar Withdrawl Still waiting for my expansion pack to arrive, but I just realized that I'm not going to have anything like an equivalent to SJ radar when I head out for my German patrols, right? It's been a long time since I played SH3, and I always played in the Type VII, but am I correct in assuming that the U-Boat Missions subs available for the Germans will be WITHOUT surface sweep radar? What will I do? I'm addicted! Hope most of you are enjoying the add-on! Good hunting, Howler P.S. Not to mention the PK!! How did I ever manage to sink ships without it? I'm going to need to return to basic manual targeting school in u-boats! Last edited by howler93; 03-03-08 at 05:38 PM.

03-04-08, 02:14 AM	#2
Saintaw Medic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: .be Posts: 168 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	So far, I've seen two radar versions, none seem to work like 10% of the US one (TM version). __________________ Saw blub blubb...

03-04-08, 12:55 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Actually the IXD2 comes with the FuMO-29 by default, which just sweeps 20 degrees in front of the sub. You can upgrade to FuMO-30 pretty quickly. I find it picks up ships just outside of visual range, so certainly not as good as the US radar and reading it yourself is certainly not as nice as the US radar scope. For air contacts etc., the radar detector (i.e. FuMB) is probably a better friend And yea, German radar was definitely ways behind the US radar. That was probably the fleet boats' greatest advantage. Mind you, in the game we're probably better supplied with radar right now than the real U-boats were. Most of the monsoon boats didn't have any radar at all. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-04-08, 01:01 PM	#6
FuddCS Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 55°23'16N 10°23'50E Posts: 13 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Well, german subs have very good sonar. I use it a lot. Every hour or so i dive to 25 meters and listen for a while. Works better than radar imho. __________________ Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity

03-06-08, 04:19 PM	#11
SuperCavitation Loader Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, Tejas!! Posts: 87 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Also, there is an officer who will appear in port from time to time whose "ability" is to enhance radar range/capability. He is well worth the reknown. My watch crew were the only decent eyeballs I had until I got that officer. __________________ "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast. For I intend to go in harm's way." - Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778, in a letter to le Ray de Chaumont.

03-04-08, 12:39 PM	#3
Zantham 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 283 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 1	The German radar seems to pick up planes pretty nicely giving you enough time to dive, but its surface ability is definitely not as good as the US radar. My crew often spots ships before the radar does... at least before the radar guy reports them anyways. This is using the advanced radar that comes in the XVIII.

03-04-08, 12:48 PM	#4
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	my radar cant even detect planes in 1943. i have the upgrade, but, planes are spotted by my crew with no radar contact at all. and yes, the radar in on.

03-04-08, 02:02 PM	#8
howler93 Medic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Telluride, Colorado Posts: 162 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	So, have you u-boat skippers run into any problems with using time compression without the added benefits of good surface radar? For example, coming out of TC to find you're being shelled by an Iowa class battleship? I'm just wondering if I should plan on using TC less as a German u-boat skipper... Thanks, Howler

03-04-08, 02:45 PM	#9
Zantham 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 283 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 1	Not specifically no. I've been caught by planes a few times now and again in high TC, but so far my watch crew seems to spot ships before they spot me, even with high TC on.

03-06-08, 11:23 PM	#12
Schnee Engineer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 209 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Actually The latest German Radars/Threat detectors available in early '44 don't seem too bad. Not up to the stuff you get on the Fleet Boat side but useful enough to be worth spending the renown to upgrade to. particularly the threat detectors. they allow you plenty of warning to dive if need be.