Chinese forum was closed, and then is ours quite safe?

[GlobalExplorer]

It's strange Germans are always assumed to speak English, though in reality for at least half the population it's a real trauma.

I found myself hardly ever posting in the german forums, because I am not going to restrict myself with talking to 5% of the community. But Boris is right, there is some interesting stuff going on there, and we usually miss it. There are some guys walking between the lines and translating interesting developments into the german forums, so they know what's going on, but do we?

Btw, I wonder why there are hardly any French skippers .. would like to brush up my French as well ..

[Boris]

I think it's because the French love their language and keep within their own communities.
I'm going to make a post suggesting a German lanquage section in the 'Comments to Subsim review setion'

[UglyMowgli]

There is a lot of french people here reading posts on Subsim but they have nothing to say and a lot are bored about french bashing /(jokes) posts since 2003 so they left US forums.

[Onkel Neal]

Yep, everyone who thinks he is clever comes up with French jokes. I think it is a clear sign of ignorance and pathetic lack of wit on the one who tells them. I've been to France several times and I've always found the French to be wonderful people. Americans who say they met rude French should look in the mirror first to see why they were perhaps rude.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=98480&page=2&highlight=french

We would like to have more French in our community.
I would, certainly.

[desertisland]

Those who say rude things about the French are only demostrating thier ignorance. Google "French military victory" and you will find that they had been bathed in military glory way before the birth of US. And they have evolved out of glory-hungry "patriotism" long ago. In more than one way, the Americans have a lot to learn from older civilizations.

[Aimbot]

Originally Posted by desertisland

Those who say rude things about the French are only demostrating thier ignorance. Google "French military victory" and you will find that they had been bathed in military glory way before the birth of US. And they have evolved out of glory-hungry "patriotism" long ago. In more than one way, the Americans have a lot to learn from older civilizations.

See, that's the thing, it all happened a REALLY LONG TIME AGO. Americans have a short memory. If you want to go that rout, though, France demonstrates a short memory when they call us "War Mongers." There's no reason for the American to treat France any differently. In all reality the American has a reason to be pissed at France. France (and England, to a lesser extent) were largely responsible for the putative nature of The Treaty of Versailles, which my man Woodrow Wilson predicted would start World War 2. The whole Vietnam conflict might have been avoided if France would have not treated the inhabitants so poorly. And then of course there's the fact that France hasn't treated Americans well the last century. Even American soldiers fighting to liberate France said the people were unwelcoming, hostile and rude. I do think it is unfortunate that France is ridiculed for falling so quickly to Germany in World War 2, though, as they were doomed from the beginning. France fought an undivided Germany almost unaided and before it was able to mount the defenses it had planned. England would have fallen just as easily were it not for the all important Channel.

I can't bad mouth France, largely because America exists in no small part due to the aid of France in the Revolution and the teachings of Voltaire, but I understand why others do. It's not the loss to Germany, it's the general French (or, more accurately, Parisian) attitude of superiority and ethnocentrism.

On the original subject, I agree, Chotto...

Watashi wa nihonjin iranai.


(Excuse any mistakes, I'm barely through my first year of study, and I can't get my conversion software to put out kanji and hiragana)

[zaza]

Originally Posted by Aimbot

On the original subject, I agree, Chotto...

Watashi wa nihonjin iranai.


(Excuse any mistakes, I'm barely through my first year of study, and I can't get my conversion software to put out kanji and hiragana)

Hello Aimbot !

Oh nooo,,,, Watashi wa nionjin iranai, mean...
"I am not need any Japanese on here....." But it's ok !
I can understand What you want real men to

You want say " I cant speak Japanese "or something like that?
If you have any problem in Japanese, please post here, them
Yattky or I will answer freely.

[desertisland]

Originally Posted by Aimbot

See, that's the thing, it all happened a REALLY LONG TIME AGO. Americans have a short memory. If you want to go that rout, though, France demonstrates a short memory when they call us "War Mongers." There's no reason for the American to treat France any differently.

It means one is no better than the other. Sure, they can bicker on with each other like hell, but I'm not convinced either is better.

Originally Posted by Aimbot

In all reality the American has a reason to be pissed at France. France (and England, to a lesser extent) were largely responsible for the putative nature of The Treaty of Versailles, which my man Woodrow Wilson predicted would start World War 2. The whole Vietnam conflict might have been avoided if France would have not treated the inhabitants so poorly. And then of course there's the fact that France hasn't treated Americans well the last century. Even American soldiers fighting to liberate France said the people were unwelcoming, hostile and rude. I do think it is unfortunate that France is ridiculed for falling so quickly to Germany in World War 2, though, as they were doomed from the beginning. France fought an undivided Germany almost unaided and before it was able to mount the defenses it had planned. England would have fallen just as easily were it not for the all important Channel.

I can't bad mouth France, largely because America exists in no small part due to the aid of France in the Revolution and the teachings of Voltaire, but I understand why others do. It's not the loss to Germany, it's the general French (or, more accurately, Parisian) attitude of superiority and ethnocentrism.

On the original subject, I agree, Chotto...

Watashi wa nihonjin iranai.


(Excuse any mistakes, I'm barely through my first year of study, and I can't get my conversion software to put out kanji and hiragana)

Thanks for demonstrating my point. :P

Americans hate the French because it's like looking into a mirror and they don't like what they see.

[UglyMowgli]

France (and England, to a lesser extent) were largely responsible for the putative nature of The Treaty of Versailles, which my man Woodrow Wilson predicted would start World War 2.

You prefer make buisnes with Hitler until you delcare war to Germany than helping French and British?

The whole Vietnam conflict might have been avoided if France would have not treated the inhabitants so poorly.

And if the USA didn't give weapon to 'liberation movement' of Indochina. In 1954 why US troops replace French troops in Indochina, why didn't the USA let the people of indochina alone.

And then of course there's the fact that France hasn't treated Americans well the last century.

Give me some, we can discuss them.

Even American soldiers fighting to liberate France said the people were unwelcoming, hostile and rude.

Angry people were in village and cities were desvasted by the most precise bombing force of the WW2. Have you ever look at somle photo of Cean, Le Havre, Brest and some other major city or village of France after the US bombing (the city were I leave was bombed in 1944 and half destroyed, the target was a railway station 15km away!). So when you lost all your family and your house, you will see the Liberator with an otehr point of view.

I do think it is unfortunate that France is ridiculed for falling so quickly to Germany in World War 2, though, as they were doomed from the beginning. France fought an undivided Germany almost unaided and before it was able to mount the defenses it had planned. England would have fallen just as easily were it not for the all important Channel.

Do you know how many french soldier were killed during the 5 weeks of the german assault ? I don't think,Ii will give you the number 91,000 and 232,000 were wounded report this to the total population of France in 1940 and compare with all the US troops lost during the all WW2.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Boris

Hey Neal, how about a German forum? There's alot of German subsimmers about already on these forums, but many who can't speak english properly don't register here, which creates a division, especially in the modding communities.

I'm going to make a post suggesting a German lanquage section in the 'Comments to Subsim review setion'

I completely agree with this statement.

Originally Posted by Boris

I think it's because the French love their language and keep within their own communities.

You're not right, Sir.
Of course that's because many () of us are isolationist (and may I say this attitude is our proudness ?), but mostly because we're still not very familiar with english language.
MSGalileo is right, often people make fun of us, for any reason... But I must do justice to Neal and Subsim here and now : even though I still have to improve my english a lot, everyone has always been kind enough not to reprimand me for having a rather rough english vocabulary.

@ MSGalileo : Wanna make friends on a friendly foreign site related to submarine simulation ? You could do a lot worse than sending all your mates this link for them to register.

[Kipparikalle]

The reason why no chinese people posted on the chinese forum section is because of the censoring happening in China.