Download limit - Page 7

Jimbuna · 03-22-14, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by M3PH1ST0

What I mean is that I find no reasons to restrain downloads for files that have the same weight of a web page...

The restrictions are not on the size but more on the quantity/number.

Obviously bandwidth costs money but IMO SubSim is pretty generous in its allowances.

Onkel Neal · 03-22-14, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by M3PH1ST0

What I mean is that I find no reasons to restrain downloads for files that have the same weight of a web page...

But multiply that by 175 users an hour....

ReallyDedPoet · 03-22-14, 02:53 PM

Man when I think how much this community has enhanced my gaming experience ( and of course much more ) I can't put a $$ figure to it.....

M3PH1ST0 · 03-22-14, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

But multiply that by 175 users an hour....

I don't need to be register to navigate the forums, and I can load as many pages I want. So, when it comes to downloads, i find it stupid to limit it for files that are below 100kb.

Anyway, I am just pointing that out, if you don't want to change that, it is fine, I will live with it. I dont know how much subsim costs a month, but having +1500 users and guests is not free I guess

03-22-14, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by M3PH1ST0

I don't need to be register to navigate the forums, and I can load as many pages I want. So, when it comes to downloads, i find it stupid to limit it for files that are below 100kb.

Anyway, I am just pointing that out, if you don't want to change that, it is fine, I will live with it. I dont know how much subsim costs a month, but having +1500 users and guests is not free I guess

what I find stupid is when people cant understand the limits are there so everyone can download without delays or long waits.

you get 10 downloads a day which is more then enough for the average member to never have a problem. the only problem is when new members show up wanting to download 40-55 mods and find its "too much trouble" to do it over 4 or 5 days and tell Neal that its stupid and it would be better to change the whole website system that has been refined over the years to work like a well oiled machine just so "they" don't have to wait an extra day for a mod.

if you don't like a free and friendly website that does everything it can to serve the most members in a trouble free manner then go to a pay sight and pay them to provide you with unlimited band width. geez

Onkel Neal · 03-22-14, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by M3PH1ST0

I don't need to be register to navigate the forums, and I can load as many pages I want. So, when it comes to downloads, i find it stupid to limit it for files that are below 100kb.

Anyway, I am just pointing that out, if you don't want to change that, it is fine, I will live with it. I dont know how much subsim costs a month, but having +1500 users and guests is not free I guess

So, you are suggesting maybe we should limit how many pages you can load ?

(Just kidding!)

No worries, I can understand where you're coming from. You are right, managing the costs used to be 1/2 my pocket and 1/2 from advertsing and game affiliate sales, mostly though Chips & Bits (do you remember them? They were HUGE at one time, but their revenue slowly dried up

Now the domain is one of those advert-parked pages http://www.chipsbits.com/ ). Back then, Subsim made enough from those two streams, and Subsim was still not as busy as it is today, so there wasn't a problem. Since then, we have moved to a volunteer donation model to pay the server, server management, and other costs (those two items are 90%), and it has worked out great. Members of the Subsim site get to help do a little to keep the site online, and it also ensures that the bandwidth is managed sensibly. Thanks !

M3PH1ST0 · 03-23-14, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Webster

what I find stupid is when people cant understand the limits are there so everyone can download without delays or long waits.

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Originally Posted by Webster

to do it over 4 or 5 days

Hmm hmmm.....
I think there is a contradiction here

Mowgli · 03-23-14, 05:45 AM

I think it a privilege to help support this site with donations.

This site has given me personally much pleasure over the years and in my current time on it, it has made it possible for me to finally play SH5 after providing a similar service for SH3, DC, etc.

My Mrs loves it, because we save a fortune by me being kept busy adding mods and hunting the Atlantic instead of swilling beer in an empty pub.

Sailor Steve · 03-23-14, 05:58 AM

I'll apologize for being rude before I start, but now I'm a little angry too. What I seem to see is someone who has been a registered member here for four years and has never contributed anything to the community. I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about helping people, being part of conversations. Maybe you've been lurking and reading the threads; I don't know. What I do know is that the first time you ever post here it's to complain about "your" downloads. We didn't use to have a Downloads section, and I sometimes think it might be better if we just got rid of it again.

M3PH1ST0 · 03-23-14, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

What I seem to see is someone who has been a registered member here for four years and has never contributed anything to the community.

I can understand how you feel. I wasn't really an english-speaker at the time, I was just looking for mods, and I was redirected to subsim.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

What I do know is that the first time you ever post here it's to complain about "your" downloads.

It's a bit easy to say that.
I am sorry this is my first contribution too, but I am not complaining about "my" downloads

...No need to staple "annoying kiddy" on me.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I sometimes think it might be better if we just got rid of it again

Yes.

TG626 · 03-23-14, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

...I sometimes think it might be better if we just got rid of it again.

I'd say no to that notion. If for no other reason then "That file does not exist. Redirecting you to home page." Without the subsim controlled repository many if not all mods would slowly vanish from the internet!

Let them wail and gnash their teeth.

My only wish (and I have yet to reach the end of my first subscription period so I don't know what will happen) is that we'd get notice that our time was nearly up so we could manually re-up our subscription.

My funds are thin, so auto-renew makes me nervous.

Never the less, subscribing was totally worth it.

Onkel Neal · 03-23-14, 09:33 AM

Thanks, TG!

Yes, when your SUBscription is near the end, Paypal will send you a reminder and you can decide whether to cancel the subscription or let it renew.

ReallyDedPoet · 03-23-14, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Yes, when your SUBscription is near the end, Paypal will send you a reminder and you can decide whether to cancel the subscription or let it renew.

Roger that

03-23-14, 11:27 AM

post #100 says it all, he wants us to get rid of the download section because HE doesn't like how its run.

this guy is not interested in making subsim better but just wants to bash it.

Sailor Steve · 03-23-14, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by M3PH1ST0

It's a bit easy to say that.
I am sorry this is my first contribution too, but I am not complaining about "my" downloads

...No need to staple "annoying kiddy" on me.

You're right, it is easy to say. I wasn't trying to stick you with a label, just vent my own frustration. We have one hundred thousand members, and only a tiny handful ever do anything but download mods. We have more than a thousand people reading the forums at any one time, but only one or two hundred of those are signed in as registered members, and only a few of those actually post. I get frustrated because I want to know who all those people are, and what they think, and I never will.

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Yes.

No, it won't happen, or at least I hope not. On the other hand I've also heard it suggested that the website make money by charging a dollar per download. Of course we could also charge more for the bigger ones.

03-22-14, 02:53 PM	#93
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The one and only East Coast Posts: 10,775 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Man when I think how much this community has enhanced my gaming experience ( and of course much more ) I can't put a $$ figure to it..... __________________ Back in the Day

03-23-14, 05:45 AM	#98
Mowgli Sparks Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Wales Posts: 212 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	I think it a privilege to help support this site with donations. This site has given me personally much pleasure over the years and in my current time on it, it has made it possible for me to finally play SH5 after providing a similar service for SH3, DC, etc. My Mrs loves it, because we save a fortune by me being kept busy adding mods and hunting the Atlantic instead of swilling beer in an empty pub. __________________ Now this is the Law of the Jungle -- as old and as true as the sky; And the Wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the Wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk the Law runneth forward and back -- For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.

03-23-14, 05:58 AM	#99
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'll apologize for being rude before I start, but now I'm a little angry too. What I seem to see is someone who has been a registered member here for four years and has never contributed anything to the community. I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about helping people, being part of conversations. Maybe you've been lurking and reading the threads; I don't know. What I do know is that the first time you ever post here it's to complain about "your" downloads. We didn't use to have a Downloads section, and I sometimes think it might be better if we just got rid of it again. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-23-14, 09:33 AM	#102
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,290 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Thanks, TG! Yes, when your SUBscription is near the end, Paypal will send you a reminder and you can decide whether to cancel the subscription or let it renew. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

03-23-14, 11:27 AM	#104
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	post #100 says it all, he wants us to get rid of the download section because HE doesn't like how its run. this guy is not interested in making subsim better but just wants to bash it.