[REL] SH3 Log Mod; Beta testers required.

LGN1 · 06-20-13, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machiavelli

I have a question, what formula are you using to determine if BdU believes you or not?

If BdU doesn't believe you, and thinks your full of ****, then do you not get renown for your sinking?

You can find this out from the script

At the moment the equation is quite simple. If you claim less than what you actually sunk, BdU believes you (--> you get what you reported, i.e., less than what you really achieved). If you over-claim to a certain amount (I don't want to give the true number. You can find it out yourself), BdU also accepts your results (--> you get more than what you really achieved). If you over-claim even more you get less than what you actually achieved and if you completely exaggerate BdU does not believe you and you get 0 (see the screenshot above. I did not sink anything, but claimed to have sunk HMS Nelson

Actually, I never left the port

).

This could be improved a lot, but I think it does the main job: it forces you to pay attention to what you sink and it creates some uncertainty and excitement at the end of a patrol.

Regards, LGN1

VONHARRIS · 06-20-13, 01:37 PM

Thank you LGN1.
It must have been the case sensitive issue as everything else was done by the book.
I will try again in my next patrol and I will post the results.

06-20-13, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGN1

You can find this out from the script

At the moment the equation is quite simple. If you claim less than what you actually sunk, BdU believes you (--> you get what you reported, i.e., less than what you really achieved). If you over-claim to a certain amount (I don't want to give the true number. You can find it out yourself), BdU also accepts your results (--> you get more than what you really achieved). If you over-claim even more you get less than what you actually achieved and if you completely exaggerate BdU does not believe you and you get 0 (see the screenshot above. I did not sink anything, but claimed to have sunk HMS Nelson

Actually, I never left the port

).

This could be improved a lot, but I think it does the main job: it forces you to pay attention to what you sink and it creates some uncertainty and excitement at the end of a patrol.

Regards, LGN1

Fantastic. Now I understand how this works. Thanks for not sharing the exact equation either, as that would ruin the fun for everyone.

Tupolev · 06-20-13, 06:43 PM

Fantastic! A new reason for me to restart a career!

Quite serious, by the way. I'm loving this idea.

T

iambecomelife · 06-21-13, 04:54 PM

This is a very good idea. One of my complaints about most simulators is perfect intelligence - how you are always guaranteed 100% credit for every kill, even when there are no friendly witnesses.

It's a lot like the kill confirmation feature for "Over Flanders Fields", which is one of my favorite flight sims.

Crazy idea - is there a way to make BDU more likely to accept claims early in the war? As late as 1940 American newspapers would publish lists of vessel sinkings, based on distress calls picked up by neutral radio operators. Presumably, German intelligence would have access to them, and could confirm that U-47 did, indeed, sink the tanker "Suzie Snowflake" on the date a claim was made for her. As the war went on, censorship became more strict and it became harder to confirm kills.

Karl Heinrich · 06-22-13, 11:09 AM

Hey LGN this looks absolutely outstanding, will definitely be giving a try ASAP. Have already been doing this unofficially but this is so much better.

LGN1 · 06-25-13, 02:22 PM

Hi,

thanks for the feed-back. I'm glad that you like the mod and it seems to work. Has anyone already made some experience with over-claiming? Is BdU too strict?

I have just uploaded a new version. The main changes are:

1.) I have fixed a tiny bug concerning renown calculation if 0 BRT are claimed (only important for non-renown player)

2.) Following iambecomelife's suggestion I have implemented a new feature: Before the entry into the war of the US there is a chance that BdU knows your true tonnage from 'other sources'. In this case you get your true tonnage value (but the number of ships in your report is not changed).

As I have mentioned before, the 'BdU AI' can be easily changed. So if anyone has a suggestion, don't hesitate to ask.

3.) I have created a drop-down menu for the ship-type box (you can still also write what you like in this box). The entries in the box are taken from the EnglishNames.cfg/GermanNames.cfg file IN THE FOLDER WITH THE EXECUTABLE, i.e., you should copy your own EnglishNames.cfg/GermanNames.cfg from the SH3 ship folder to the folder with the executable (the two files contained in the download are from GWX). This guarantees that the ship type is compatible with SH3 Commander and the ship-name feature works properly.

Regards, LGN1

fitzcarraldo · 06-25-13, 07:29 PM

Downloading and testing new version...

Many thanks for the great work and support. It seems this tool will be a must have...

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

LGN1 · 07-01-13, 01:47 PM

Any updates? Has anyone tested the mod? Is it working properly now with the ship-name feature?

Regards, LGN1

06-21-13, 04:54 PM	#5
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,587 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	This is a very good idea. One of my complaints about most simulators is perfect intelligence - how you are always guaranteed 100% credit for every kill, even when there are no friendly witnesses. It's a lot like the kill confirmation feature for "Over Flanders Fields", which is one of my favorite flight sims. Crazy idea - is there a way to make BDU more likely to accept claims early in the war? As late as 1940 American newspapers would publish lists of vessel sinkings, based on distress calls picked up by neutral radio operators. Presumably, German intelligence would have access to them, and could confirm that U-47 did, indeed, sink the tanker "Suzie Snowflake" on the date a claim was made for her. As the war went on, censorship became more strict and it became harder to confirm kills. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

06-22-13, 11:09 AM	#6
Karl Heinrich Soundman Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 2	Hey LGN this looks absolutely outstanding, will definitely be giving a try ASAP. Have already been doing this unofficially but this is so much better. __________________ “Die Südfrüchte runter vom Kartentisch. Auf Bananen kann ich nicht navigieren.”

06-25-13, 07:29 PM	#8
fitzcarraldo Argentinian Skipper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Somewhere between Buenos Aires and the Bungo Suido Posts: 5,140 Downloads: 3222 Uploads: 0	Downloading and testing new version... Many thanks for the great work and support. It seems this tool will be a must have... Regards. Fitzcarraldo __________________ *My subject is War, and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity - Wilfred Owen.*

06-20-13, 01:37 PM	#2
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Thank you LGN1. It must have been the case sensitive issue as everything else was done by the book. I will try again in my next patrol and I will post the results.

06-20-13, 06:43 PM	#4
Tupolev Hauptman Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: FL410 Posts: 174 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Fantastic! A new reason for me to restart a career! Quite serious, by the way. I'm loving this idea. T

06-25-13, 02:22 PM	#7
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi, thanks for the feed-back. I'm glad that you like the mod and it seems to work. Has anyone already made some experience with over-claiming? Is BdU too strict? I have just uploaded a new version. The main changes are: 1.) I have fixed a tiny bug concerning renown calculation if 0 BRT are claimed (only important for non-renown player) 2.) Following iambecomelife's suggestion I have implemented a new feature: Before the entry into the war of the US there is a chance that BdU knows your true tonnage from 'other sources'. In this case you get your true tonnage value (but the number of ships in your report is not changed). As I have mentioned before, the 'BdU AI' can be easily changed. So if anyone has a suggestion, don't hesitate to ask. 3.) I have created a drop-down menu for the ship-type box (you can still also write what you like in this box). The entries in the box are taken from the EnglishNames.cfg/GermanNames.cfg file IN THE FOLDER WITH THE EXECUTABLE, i.e., you should copy your own EnglishNames.cfg/GermanNames.cfg from the SH3 ship folder to the folder with the executable (the two files contained in the download are from GWX). This guarantees that the ship type is compatible with SH3 Commander and the ship-name feature works properly. Regards, LGN1

07-01-13, 01:47 PM	#9
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Any updates? Has anyone tested the mod? Is it working properly now with the ship-name feature? Regards, LGN1