US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 378

Catfish · 10-26-18, 05:02 PM

Washington Post?
You should know that all except Breitbart and Fox News is Fake News.

u crank · 10-26-18, 05:03 PM

I guess you could say that Mr. Sayoc is not your model citizen.

Onkel Neal · 10-26-18, 06:17 PM

The guy is a crank, but most obviously, a criminal.

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Sayoc, who was previously known to law enforcement officials, has been arrested nearly a dozen times in Florida, including a 2002 arrest for making a bomb threat. His criminal record in the state extends to the early 1990s, starting with his arrest for larceny at the age of 29, according to state records. Other charges of larceny, grand theft and fraud would soon follow across the southern part of the state.

In the 2002 bomb threat case, Sayoc pleaded guilty to the felony without a trial and was sentenced to probation, records show.

Let me just say again, we need to toughen our justice system. People like this should never be let out.

Onkel Neal · 10-26-18, 06:19 PM

On a side note, a funny one too:

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Debra Gureghian, the general manager of New River Pizza & Fresh Kitchen in Fort Lauderdale, said Sayoc worked as a delivery truck driver for several months until he quit in January.

“He was crazed, that’s the best word for him,” she said. “There was something really off with him.”

The white van he drove to deliver pizzas was covered in disturbing images, she said, so the restaurant required him to park it on the side where it could not be seen.

“It was puppets with their heads cut off, mannequins with their heads cut off, Ku Klux Klan, a black person being hung, anti-gay symbols, torchings, bombings. You name it, it was all over his truck,” Gureghian said.

He was kept on because he did his work reliably, and good drivers are hard to find, she said.

Yeah, true, we even have to take the crazies.

Jimbuna · 10-27-18, 10:03 AM

He's off the streets now, hopefully for a long time.

August · 10-27-18, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

On a side note, a funny one too:

Yeah, true, we even have to take the crazies.

There is just no room in the bulging prison system for the merely crazy. We have to lock up far too many non violent offenders.

mapuc · 10-27-18, 11:27 AM

As I see it, it's a huge different between a crazy person who's dangerous towards others than a crazy person who's harmless towards others

Markus

August · 10-27-18, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Just heard it in the news

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/u...-shooting.html

Why are you posting this in the US Political thread? Anti-semitism hardly originates or is confined to the US. Wouldn't the terrorism thread be a better venue?

Catfish · 10-27-18, 03:07 PM

This does not have the usual islamic background, but you are right.
Have moved the post.

Rockstar · 10-27-18, 03:38 PM

Frankly I think neither subject ought to be discussed under 'politics' domestic or otherwise. Rather I think the likes of Sayoc, Bower, even Islamic terrorists etc, etc should be discussed under a new topic titled 'Murderers & The Mentally Disturbed'

Assigning these two to a politics thread, really?

Buddahaid · 10-27-18, 04:00 PM

Really? Trump using incitful language to describe his opposition and heating up the people on the borderline has nothing to do with politics?

August · 10-27-18, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Really? Trump using incitful language to describe his opposition and heating up the people on the borderline has nothing to do with politics?

Really? How was this synagogue shooter motivated by Trump?

Rockstar · 10-27-18, 04:54 PM

Yes really. Todays national political atmosphere cannot be blamed any one person. IMO those that think otherwise have much in common with Sayoc and Bower. Just as divisive, only difference is they're too cowardly to take it as far as they did. But dont fool yourself they think much the same way. Both have issues which can better addressed in the propsed '...mentally disturbed' thread.

Buddahaid · 10-27-18, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Really? How was this synagogue shooter motivated by Trump?

Sorry to be unclear. I agree the Synagogue is unrelated to my above post, but the bomb suspect fits to me. It seems like Trump could yell FIRE in a theater, or museum, and get away with it.

August · 10-27-18, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Sorry to be unclear. I agree the Synagogue is unrelated to my above post, but the bomb suspect fits to me. It seems like Trump could yell FIRE in a theater, or museum, and get away with it.

Well if Trump is responsible for the bomber then Bernie Sanders is responsible for the softball game shootings and who would be responsible for the ricin recently sent to Secretary Mattis?

Nuts come in all political flavors including nonpolitical.

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10-27-18, 03:38 PM	#5665
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,846 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Frankly I think neither subject ought to be discussed under 'politics' domestic or otherwise. Rather I think the likes of Sayoc, Bower, even Islamic terrorists etc, etc should be discussed under a new topic titled 'Murderers & The Mentally Disturbed' Assigning these two to a politics thread, really? __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 10-27-18 at 04:04 PM.

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mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,905 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	As I see it, it's a huge different between a crazy person who's dangerous towards others than a crazy person who's harmless towards others Markus

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10-27-18, 04:54 PM	#5668
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,846 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Yes really. Todays national political atmosphere cannot be blamed any one person. IMO those that think otherwise have much in common with Sayoc and Bower. Just as divisive, only difference is they're too cowardly to take it as far as they did. But dont fool yourself they think much the same way. Both have issues which can better addressed in the propsed '...mentally disturbed' thread. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 10-27-18 at 06:34 PM.