[WIP] Wolves of the Kaiser:1914-1918 Mod - Page 87

Jeff-Groves · 03-30-15, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by leadtail

Very nice!

I do have to ask how much extra work is doing it for SH3 also? Maybe finish it for SH4 first then port it over?

Given the MFM for Sh3 can be converted to SH4 in a VERY short time given the right program?
It's faster to do the SH3 then convert to SH4.

CCIP · 03-30-15, 11:37 PM

I also want to say that I actually like the textured look of the mid-break and wouldn't mind it staying even in SH4

I think viewed from a usual periscope distance, it looks just right!

the_frog · 03-31-15, 03:44 PM

Hello IMBL,

I guess the multiple explosions upon being hit do not result from too many collision spheres but from numerous destructible items (defined by damage boxes). For such excessive effects I gave up doing small destructible parts. Exploding vents and lifeboat are not realisitc.

If I remember right, some merchant ship models from SH5 have been converted to SH3. Their internal 3D damage model becomes visible when breaking into halves.

iambecomelife · 03-31-15, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the_frog

Hello IMBL,

I guess the multiple explosions upon being hit do not result from too many collision spheres but from numerous destructible items (defined by damage boxes). For such excessive effects I gave up doing small destructible parts. Exploding vents and lifeboat are not realisitc.

If I remember right, some merchant ship models from SH5 have been converted to SH3. Their internal 3D damage model becomes visible when breaking into halves.

No; I'm actually 100% certain it's the spheres. I deleted all but two spheres on the hull object last night and her damage model was back to normal right away. I also looked at the default merchants and noticed that the game designers did not place spheres throughout the hulls of the stock ships. The NKLS hull, for instance, only has one or two of them amidships. Good to know I can get realistic damage effects in less time - placing all the spheres is tedious.

I do agree that some effects are over the top - lifeboats and ventilation ducts don't need to go off like Roman Candles. This is a simulator, not a Michael Bay movie.

iambecomelife · 03-31-15, 07:12 PM

Keeping a watchful eye for the Hun...

Maybe I'll need some officers, rich guys & gals, 3rd class poor folk, etc etc?

So far I just have one human model; the importation went OK.

Lowered her draft a bit, and also lowered the forward cowl ventilators. The lower poly portholes are shown - not much of a difference from the old ones, and less complex.

Started work on the railings - I tried using an Alpha Channel to simulate railings and in Wings3d it's worked like a charm - I can't believe I didn't think of it earlier. This is much faster and more accurate looking than modeling railings in 3d. Also a lower poly count.

the_frog · 04-01-15, 01:47 PM

IMBL, forgive me, for I am 100% sure that the collision sphere are not linked to any explosion

As for merchants (and other breakable vessels), please have a look at the damage models of the fore and aft hull halves. You will be astonished how many sphere you find there ... the main model of all breakable ship have usually just very few spheres close to the position where the hull is supposed to split.

Spheres only define the shape of objects that can collide with other objects.

Cheers

iambecomelife · 04-03-15, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the_frog

IMBL, forgive me, for I am 100% sure that the collision sphere are not linked to any explosion

As for merchants (and other breakable vessels), please have a look at the damage models of the fore and aft hull halves. You will be astonished how many sphere you find there ... the main model of all breakable ship have usually just very few spheres close to the position where the hull is supposed to split.

Spheres only define the shape of objects that can collide with other objects.

Cheers

I understand.

BTW, I am having a little trouble getting the model to tilt when it gets hit on one side.

In most tests she sinks on an even keel. I want to model the longitudinal bulkheads with the .zon boxes (these were responsible for the great loss of life, because they prevented most port lifeboats from being used). Back to the drawing board (or is it the dat file??)

EDIT: Got it! The boxes marked as "NFlotMain" were too low in the hull. Now I'm getting the historical sinking, with the heavy list to Starboard.

Hitman · 04-04-15, 12:59 PM

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Maybe I'll need some officers, rich guys & gals, 3rd class poor folk, etc etc?

Please put Leonardo di Caprio on the bow with arms in a cross, I know it was Titanic but my God always wanted to torpedo him like that

TorpX · 04-04-15, 09:48 PM

I'm sure you're not the only one.

Jeff-Groves · 04-04-15, 11:58 PM

If IMBL plays with Faceworx he can even make it look like Leo!

iambecomelife · 04-05-15, 07:05 PM

Ummm....No Leonardo di Caprio yet!

Some crude figures to populate the decks....

fithah4 · 04-05-15, 08:20 PM

A little montage from the past!

Just a little humor , but all respect...IABL this is great work and the progress your making is really awesome!!

Buddahaid · 04-05-15, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by iambecomelife

Ummm....No Leonardo di Caprio yet!

Some crude figures to populate the decks....

The stewardesses are all she-males!

Now I want a substitute nancy boy crew........

Wonderful work.

Aktungbby · 04-06-15, 12:11 AM

fithah4! after a bit of a silent run

Always interesting what brings 'em to the surface!

Hitman · 04-06-15, 04:42 AM

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The stewardesses are all she-males!

War women are toughhhhhh

03-30-15, 11:37 PM	#1292
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I also want to say that I actually like the textured look of the mid-break and wouldn't mind it staying even in SH4 I think viewed from a usual periscope distance, it looks just right! __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-31-15, 07:12 PM	#1295
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,584 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Keeping a watchful eye for the Hun... Maybe I'll need some officers, rich guys & gals, 3rd class poor folk, etc etc? So far I just have one human model; the importation went OK. Lowered her draft a bit, and also lowered the forward cowl ventilators. The lower poly portholes are shown - not much of a difference from the old ones, and less complex. Started work on the railings - I tried using an Alpha Channel to simulate railings and in Wings3d it's worked like a charm - I can't believe I didn't think of it earlier. This is much faster and more accurate looking than modeling railings in 3d. Also a lower poly count. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

04-04-15, 11:58 PM	#1300
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	If IMBL plays with Faceworx he can even make it look like Leo! __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

04-05-15, 07:05 PM	#1301
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,584 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Ummm....No Leonardo di Caprio yet! Some crude figures to populate the decks.... __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

04-05-15, 08:20 PM	#1302
fithah4 Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 116 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Just can't resist the temptation! A little montage from the past! Just a little humor , but all respect...IABL this is great work and the progress your making is really awesome!!

03-31-15, 03:44 PM	#1293
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 456 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Hello IMBL, I guess the multiple explosions upon being hit do not result from too many collision spheres but from numerous destructible items (defined by damage boxes). For such excessive effects I gave up doing small destructible parts. Exploding vents and lifeboat are not realisitc. If I remember right, some merchant ship models from SH5 have been converted to SH3. Their internal 3D damage model becomes visible when breaking into halves.

04-01-15, 01:47 PM	#1296
the_frog Commander Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 456 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	IMBL, forgive me, for I am 100% sure that the collision sphere are not linked to any explosion As for merchants (and other breakable vessels), please have a look at the damage models of the fore and aft hull halves. You will be astonished how many sphere you find there ... the main model of all breakable ship have usually just very few spheres close to the position where the hull is supposed to split. Spheres only define the shape of objects that can collide with other objects. Cheers

04-04-15, 09:48 PM	#1299
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I'm sure you're not the only one.

04-06-15, 12:11 AM	#1304
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,855 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome back fithah4! after a bit of a silent runAlways interesting what brings 'em to the surface! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"