Awards in Campaign

[Longknife]

Greetings Captains,

I am wondering if there is any rhyme or reason to the way that awards are generated in campaign mode. Is there a specific matrix at work or is it random?

I just started a new campaign last night & on my 1st patrol I had a very good take sinking a little over 30k of tonnage comprising 5 merchants & 1 seaplane tender. I was never hit & only came under depth charge attach twice; they came close enough to rattle the boat but not do any damage.

You can imagine my surprise when I got back to port & was awarded a CMH! Sure it was a great patrol but IMO it wasn't that great. My shooting wasn't all that spectacular either with about a 60% hit ratio.

I should mention that I am running RFB & RSRDC plus running full realism.

[Lazarus95]

From what I can tell it seems to be random, i've recieved pretty much every medal within 1 year of the war. Granted I play on easy mode for now but I tend to get 1 medal every patrol. Perhaps it's simply based on the total tonnage you have sunk.

[lilmarci]

It seems fairly random to me as well.

[Crannogman]

Maybe you did something especially brave?

[Lazarus95]

Originally Posted by Crannogman

Maybe you did something especially brave?

It tells me that all the time, I can't remember the exact wording but it's something like extreme bravery and aggressiveness or some such. I was even awarded a purple heart for sinking a bunch of fishing boats and Sampans with my deck gun on one patrol. It's either random, based on tonnage, or they just like giving out medals haha.

[Crannogman]

I think it's random. I received the DSC in 2 consecutive patrols; the first was a crazy-long cruise in the Solomons totalling over 600,000 tons, then next was a brief run to Home Waters for less than 30,000.

[fireftr18]

I think it's random. Mods fix it.

[CapnScurvy]

No it's not random. The award system is based on tonnage sunk.

However, the stock game is pooched beyond belief. I don't know what RFB 2.0 does to the award system (if anything; I know RSRDC does nothing). The stock game not only awards "make believe" medals, but when you should receive their lowest ranked medal.....you'll get their highest award! The medals are switched in the hierarchy that they should be awarded.

Originally Posted by Longknife

......was awarded a CMH! (Congressional Medal of Honor)

.......I am running RFB & RSRDC.....

I'm guessing RFB does have the modded authentic medals......but I'm also guessing it doesn't fix the hierarchy order of the awards.

[Pigboatcook]

No it's not random. The award system is based on tonnage sunk.

Well all I know is on return to Pearl, and 50 miles out, I saved the game. For that patrol I got a Navy Cross. Reloaded the save and again entered Pearl and for that patrol I got a Bronze Star. Maybe it was my mods, dunno, but it sure seemed random having such a large spread of awards for the same tonnage and the same ships sunk.

TMO 2.5 w patch
RSRDC 5.02 w patch
NMMO

[merc4ulfate]

It is eye candy and worthless. Medals are for those who seek approval from others ... not for those who get the job done.

[Longknife]

Originally Posted by merc4ulfate

It is eye candy and worthless. Medals are for those who seek approval from others ... not for those who get the job done.

My intention for this post was not to seek approval from others but to get an understanding of why it happened. As a former military man I have a certain reverence for CMH holders & truth be told I was kinda disgusted that I got it.

[Crannogman]

Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

No it's not random. The award system is based on tonnage sunk.

However, the stock game is pooched beyond belief. I don't know what RFB 2.0 does to the award system (if anything; I know RSRDC does nothing). The stock game not only awards "make believe" medals, but when you should receive their lowest ranked medal.....you'll get their highest award! The medals are switched in the hierarchy that they should be awarded.



I'm guessing RFB does have the modded authentic medals......but I'm also guessing it doesn't fix the hierarchy order of the awards.

I was under the impression that your OTC deals with the medals as well

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Longknife

My intention for this post was not to seek approval from others but to get an understanding of why it happened. As a former military man I have a certain reverence for CMH holders & truth be told I was kinda disgusted that I got it.

That's why I don't have the CMH as the highest award with "U.S. Medals Fix II". Just not right to award the CMH for tonnage sunk.

Neither is the Distinguished Service Medal.....it was for "exceptionally mertorious service to the government in a duty of great responsibility". In my opinion, this criteria does not hold true of a sub Captain, and especially not of an enlisted crewman. What I have found is the medal is usually bestowed to senior "Navy Flag and Marine Corps General Officers" not rank and file sub Captains and definitely not to an enlisted man.

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Originally Posted by Crannogman

I was under the impression that your OTC deals with the medals as well

Yes, it does. It has the same upc files as the U.S. Medals Fix II

[Crannogman]

Gotcha - on review, it appears I was getting the Navy Cross, not the DSC

[CapnScurvy]

I was quickly reading the U.S. Medals Fix II thread and remembered there is also a criteria of ship quality that plays into effect of the awards. In other words a CV will rank a higher award than two CA's....even if there's more tonnage with the two Heavy Cruisers than the one Carrier. Also, the number of successful patrols plays a part as well.

As far as RFB, I don't know what they have done to the awards. I see I made a mod for an earlier version of RFB, but I don't think RFB 2.0 incorporated my changes to the UPC files, which corrects the hierarchy order of the medals. They may be still using the stock game files.