Who still runs single core?

Tarnsman · 02-02-10, 12:05 PM

March 4 is too soon for me to buy a new PC.

I will have to muddle along with my current rig: 3.2 P4HT 800Mhz bus, 2GB 667Ram, 525MB7950GT 500Watt PSW. I skiped my usual update cycle which would have been this summer, since my current rig runs everything:Il21946, rfactor, GTR2, SH4 very nicely at full details on my 24" widescreen. So I figured why upgrade if it still works. I play SH4 TMO no problem except I droped the texture detail down a notch.

So when they say E4400 dual core minimum do they really mean dual core only, since my P4 has a higher clock speed even than the E6850? Like does the game needs both cores to operate? I dont reallly understand dual core technology, but I do think a game has to be coded to take advantage of it. Now does this mean such a game is not backward compatiblle?

Is anyone here in a similar boat?

"Well she is a rather ageing man o war."
"Nonsense, She's in her prime"

onelifecrisis · 02-02-10, 12:11 PM

Oh my god. No mention of DRM? No "funny" screenshots? No baseless rants about assumed features (or lack thereof)? I LOVE THIS THREAD ALREADY!

On topic... from what little understanding I have: your CPU has hyper threading so in theory it should handle the (presumably multi-threaded) game, though it might chug.

HundertzehnGustav · 02-02-10, 12:12 PM

if you have two cores running at, say, 2.5 GHz (2x2.5=5?), or one core at 3 GHz... wich one is better - faster - meaner - more capable?
(simplified)

and i guess that, being in 2010, all games use multiple cores, at least two...
you buy a new rig? go for quad core or octacore... 6 or 8 Gigs of Ram, a recent 64 Bit OS, one 128GB SDD, and a Terabyte HDD, 1024 MB Video memory, or 2048 if you can.

but dont forget a 1200Watt PSU, or bigger! and enough fans to cool the thing down!

...and NO, you are NOT advised to show the price tag to your wife...

TDK1044 · 02-02-10, 12:16 PM

Ironically, I recently purchased a new Laptop, and part of the decision making process was that it would have to be able to run Silent Hunter 5.

Now I'm not even buying the game. Too funny.

AVGWarhawk · 02-02-10, 12:27 PM

My single core ran SH4 ok. However, my quad core at 2.5 Ghz REALLY plays SH4 without issue. Time to upgrade sir and have fun!

Schultz · 02-02-10, 12:32 PM

Beside this PC , I have an old that I used to play on it before I bought this one , and even sh4 worked on it.

Letum · 02-02-10, 12:43 PM

I have two single core PCs, but they are just used as a mini render farm now.

One runs at 3ghz and the other at 900hmz

Platapus · 02-02-10, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

one 128GB SDD,

I admit that I am a noob, what is SDD?

onelifecrisis · 02-03-10, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I admit that I am a noob, what is SDD?

He probably meant SSD (solid state drive i.e. basically a hard disk made of RAM)

Platapus · 02-03-10, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

He probably meant SSD (solid state drive i.e. basically a hard disk made of RAM)

Ah ok, thought there was another initialization I had to learn. Thanks

bigboywooly · 02-03-10, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I admit that I am a noob, what is SDD?

I think he means SSD
Solid state drive
Like a big flash card

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive

HundertzehnGustav · 02-03-10, 06:39 AM

SSD...

guynoir · 02-03-10, 10:04 AM

On the new Win7 machine I built last year, I have two RAID-0ed Intel SSDs as my OS drive (along with important programs (games)), and you can pry them from my cold dead fingers!

The machine is very fast to boot up, nearly instantly drops to the desktop, and I can immediately click all of the programs in the taskbar and they all quickly open up.

SSD drives are probably the best general performance upgrade you can make for your PC... They make everything snappy!

jazman · 02-04-10, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarnsman

So when they say E4400 dual core minimum do they really mean dual core only, since my P4 has a higher clock speed even than the E6850? Like does the game needs both cores to operate? I dont reallly understand dual core technology, but I do think a game has to be coded to take advantage of it. Now does this mean such a game is not backward compatiblle?

Don't go by clock speed. Go by CPU throughput, which pretty much is higher for all the multi-core CPUs than for a single-core CPU, not because of clock speed, but because of bandwidth between RAM and CPU and CPU throughput. If SHV is not built with multithreading able to spread load across multi-cores, it's a dead dog. If it is built with multithreading (very likely is), your CPU is the dead dog.

But even clunky old games like IL-2 work better on a multi-core CPU. The game is bound to one of the cores, and all the other OS processes can use the other core(s), and it flies. You don't have to do all that stupid stuff like shutting down all services to reduce CPU usage.

Tarnsman · 02-04-10, 12:09 PM

Thanks. I'll have to wait and see. I am still looking forward to SH5, but now I dont think Ill get it on day one, and will take a wait and see approach. But if Im flush on March 4 -- what the heck. Im not going to change my update schedule for just one title. After Battle of Britain SOW comes out (which is way behind schedule) and rFactor2 I will see whats on the market hardware wise and see who here is runnning SH5 on full settings and make my buying choices then.

Im only looking forward to SH5, rFactor2 and Oleg's BOBSOW, Im a simmer at heart and sim relases guide my hardware requirements. Also I want my next rig to support a 30-32" monitor at max frame rates and Id like to get a SSD and the other new tech. So I will wait and see how these sims run in the real world.

02-02-10, 12:05 PM	#1
Tarnsman Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 134 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Who still runs single core? March 4 is too soon for me to buy a new PC. I will have to muddle along with my current rig: 3.2 P4HT 800Mhz bus, 2GB 667Ram, 525MB7950GT 500Watt PSW. I skiped my usual update cycle which would have been this summer, since my current rig runs everything:Il21946, rfactor, GTR2, SH4 very nicely at full details on my 24" widescreen. So I figured why upgrade if it still works. I play SH4 TMO no problem except I droped the texture detail down a notch. So when they say E4400 dual core minimum do they really mean dual core only, since my P4 has a higher clock speed even than the E6850? Like does the game needs both cores to operate? I dont reallly understand dual core technology, but I do think a game has to be coded to take advantage of it. Now does this mean such a game is not backward compatiblle? Is anyone here in a similar boat? "Well she is a rather ageing man o war." "Nonsense, She's in her prime"

02-02-10, 12:11 PM	#2
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	Oh my god. No mention of DRM? No "funny" screenshots? No baseless rants about assumed features (or lack thereof)? I LOVE THIS THREAD ALREADY! On topic... from what little understanding I have: your CPU has hyper threading so in theory it should handle the (presumably multi-threaded) game, though it might chug. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

02-02-10, 12:12 PM	#3
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	if you have two cores running at, say, 2.5 GHz (2x2.5=5?), or one core at 3 GHz... wich one is better - faster - meaner - more capable? (simplified) and i guess that, being in 2010, all games use multiple cores, at least two... you buy a new rig? go for quad core or octacore... 6 or 8 Gigs of Ram, a recent 64 Bit OS, one 128GB SDD, and a Terabyte HDD, 1024 MB Video memory, or 2048 if you can. but dont forget a 1200Watt PSU, or bigger! and enough fans to cool the thing down! ...and NO, you are NOT advised to show the price tag to your wife... __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

02-02-10, 12:27 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	My single core ran SH4 ok. However, my quad core at 2.5 Ghz REALLY plays SH4 without issue. Time to upgrade sir and have fun! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-02-10, 12:32 PM	#6
Schultz Officer Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 237 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Beside this PC , I have an old that I used to play on it before I bought this one , and even sh4 worked on it. __________________ Old nickname: Infernos http://www.overheat.ro/

02-02-10, 12:16 PM	#4
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Ironically, I recently purchased a new Laptop, and part of the decision making process was that it would have to be able to run Silent Hunter 5. Now I'm not even buying the game. Too funny.

02-02-10, 12:43 PM	#7
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I have two single core PCs, but they are just used as a mini render farm now. One runs at 3ghz and the other at 900hmz __________________

02-03-10, 06:39 AM	#12
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	SSD... __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

02-03-10, 10:04 AM	#13
guynoir Seaman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 39 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	On the new Win7 machine I built last year, I have two RAID-0ed Intel SSDs as my OS drive (along with important programs (games)), and you can pry them from my cold dead fingers! The machine is very fast to boot up, nearly instantly drops to the desktop, and I can immediately click all of the programs in the taskbar and they all quickly open up. SSD drives are probably the best general performance upgrade you can make for your PC... They make everything snappy!

02-04-10, 12:09 PM	#15
Tarnsman Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 134 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Thanks. I'll have to wait and see. I am still looking forward to SH5, but now I dont think Ill get it on day one, and will take a wait and see approach. But if Im flush on March 4 -- what the heck. Im not going to change my update schedule for just one title. After Battle of Britain SOW comes out (which is way behind schedule) and rFactor2 I will see whats on the market hardware wise and see who here is runnning SH5 on full settings and make my buying choices then. Im only looking forward to SH5, rFactor2 and Oleg's BOBSOW, Im a simmer at heart and sim relases guide my hardware requirements. Also I want my next rig to support a 30-32" monitor at max frame rates and Id like to get a SSD and the other new tech. So I will wait and see how these sims run in the real world.