Strike on North Korea

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Fatboy...Fatboy's...Fatboy...

Please to not call Glorious Leader "Fatboy". Glorious leader is working so hard on his image. Women love him. Men envy him. To use such language is to be rude, insulting and potentially racists.

Remember, Slim Kim is Best Kim.









Sorry, couldn't resist.

[HerrRitter]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

From the subsim frontpage:
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-na...h-korea-2017-3



My initial reaction is that of course we should have plans in place for most foreseeable scenarios. This one is looking more and more relevant as time passes.

But then the f-35's got me. I was under the impression these were not in active service yet, but perhaps I'm wrong. I can see a few being used in a training exercise, but not on actual missions yet. Seems more of an F-22 thing anyways. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The F-35 is, indeed, in service. The problem that I have with this fighter is that they tried to create an aircraft that does everything. But according to an F-35 pilot that I talked to, it does, indeed, do everything, but does nothing really well.


A ... ahem ... former President decided that the United States did not need an Air Superiority fighter, and so he cancelled the F-22. Those that were already built are still in service, but there aren't enough of them. My opinion is that they should start up the F-22 program, again, and keep the Aardvarks flying for ground support (the plane is the most survivable aircraft in our inventory).

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by HerrRitter

My opinion is that they should start up the F-22 program, again, and keep the Aardvarks flying for ground support (the plane is the most survivable aircraft in our inventory).

They should probably reverse engineer A-10s, S-3s, and F-14s and start production on those again also.

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Remember, Slim Kim is Best Kim.

Is that even possible!!

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Please to not call Glorious Leader "Fatboy". Glorious leader is working so hard on his image. Women love him. Men envy him. To use such language is to be rude, insulting and potentially racists.

Remember, Slim Kim is Best Kim.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I didn't know Kim Jung-uh (3rd Supreme Leader of North Korea) was a member

What user name does fat boy use anyway?

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I think Fatboy might be in survival mode and best course of action for him at the moment is to sitcan the summit and attempt negotiations directly with Moon who probably gets all teary eyed at the prospect of reunification and getting re-elected. Also China and North Korea aren't exactly bosom buddies either, it wouldn't be the first time North Korean actions embarrassed China.

Tobacco smoking is popular and, at least for men, culturally acceptable in North Korea. As of 2014, some 45% of men are reported to smoke daily; Smoking is a leading cause of death in North Korea, and as of 2010 mortality figures: some 34.3% of men and 22.3% of women are reported to die as a result of smoking, the highest smoking mortality figures in the world, and in total tobacco-caused illness kills 55,600 North Koreans annually. The current leader Kim Jong-un is often seen smoking in public, including in university classrooms, subway cars, and in the presence of his wife Ri Sol-ju, facts that "might make the life of the North Korean health educators more complicated." WERE I THE PRESIDENT, I WOULD GUARATEE UNLIMITED CAMEL NO FILTERS AND ALL THE CHOCO PIES FATBOY CAN MUNCH AND HOPE 'FOR THE BEST'

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un received intense scrutiny during his appearance at the historic inter-Korean summit last week, and his actions during the event reveal that he was keenly aware that the world was watching. Case in point: Kim, who is known to be a chain smoker, was seen having only one smoke break during the hourslong summit. All three leaders of North Korea—Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-il, and Kim Jong-un—have been smokers and the country has struggled to balance their public image with its anti-smoking efforts. In general, North Koreans tend to prefer strong tobacco and different classes of quality range from homegrown to sought-after foreign brands that are considered status symbols

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[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Tobacco smoking is popular and, at least for men, culturally acceptable in [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea"]North Korea. As of 2014, some 45% of men are reported to smoke daily; Smoking is a leading cause of death in North Korea, and as of 2010 mortality figures: some 34.3% of men and 22.3% of women are reported to die as a result of smoking, the highest smoking mortality figures in the world, and in total tobacco-caused illness kills 55,600 North Koreans annually. The current leader Kim Jong-un is often seen smoking in public, including in university classrooms, subway cars, and in the presence of his wife Ri Sol-ju, facts that "might make the life of the North Korean health educators more complicated."

North Korean's are so poor that most cigarette smokers roll their own, but it is against the law to use newspapers due to most newspapers have an image of Kim Jung-un in them and they are not permitted to dishonor his image

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

North Korean's are so poor that most cigarette smokers roll their own, but it is against the law to use newspapers due to most newspapers have an image of Kim Jung-un in them and they are not permitted to dishonor his image

Oh yes, that sounds very reasonable.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by vienna

More likely, Kim and Xi have been 'colluding' on a strategy seeking the maximum amount of humiliation for the US and, with the able complicity of Trump because, you know, he's Trump, they are accomplishing their goal; while Trump cancels and waffles on the summit and he has his minions like Bolton stirring up the pot, Kim is 'going the extra steps' and doing things like meeting with Moon, blowing up his nuke test site, etc., and. even though its all smoke and mirrors, to the rest of the world, Kim is coming across as the "reasonable" leader (then again, how hard is it to appear reasonable when being compared to Trump). It all optics. Kim is playing the game and, with the assistance of Xi, playing it pretty well. I don't think Kim is really worried: he gets to make Trump dance, keep his power, keep his nukes, and gives up, really, nothing...
















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Reading your comment, made me remember this thread we use to discuss in

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=214616

Could it be that China and/or North Korea are trying to erase USA from the South Chinese sea equation ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

North Korean's are so poor that most cigarette smokers roll their own, but it is against the law to use newspapers due to most newspapers have an image of Kim Jung-un in them and they are not permitted to dishonor his image

What about toilet paper?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Reading your comment, made me remember this thread we use to discuss in

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=214616

Could it be that China and/or North Korea are trying to erase USA from the South Chinese sea equation ?

Markus

Not so sure anymore whats happening with North Korea has much to do with whats happening in the South China Sea. I believe freedom of navigation exercises are essential to prevent excessive claims. But the U.S. did suspend those exercises once with the hope China would place more pressure on North Korea to stop its nuclear weapons program.

Though I'm sure China would love for the the U.S. Navy to stay out of its backyard. I think the main concern for us is really North Korea. Its the only state to formally withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Its scary to think Slim Kim has developed and is sharing it's nuclear technology with other rogue states. Freedom Of Navigation be damned, the day is fast approaching when a non-state player will get their hands on a nuke weapon. When they do Europe and the U.S. are screwed and depending upon our reaction the rest of the world might be too.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

What about toilet paper?

Originally Posted by CHOCO PIE INFILTRATION

At Kaesong, the South Korean factory owners eventually switched from Choco Pies to cup noodles -- "in order to provide a more substantial snack," the former factory owner told CNN. The change, he said, was well-received.
One of the most surprising things he remembered from his years at the factory was how North Korean workers were mystified by everyday items. The workers had no idea how to use a Western-style toilet, and had never seen toilet paper before, he said.

TOILET PAPER IS A NON-ISSUE: LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY... SODASPEKE

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

What about toilet paper?

North Korean workers were mystified by everyday items. The workers had no idea how to use a Western-style toilet, and had never seen toilet paper before, he said.

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

TOILET PAPER IS A NON-ISSUE: LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY... SODASPEKE

Answers that question, uh?

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-nuclear-test-site-mantapsan-mountain-collapse-unusable-kim-jong-un/ THE REAL REASON KIM APPEARS SO REASONABLE ....FOR THE MOMENT....

I've been thinking (like that biker guy in the Beach Blanket movies)

What if Aktungbby is on to something here and the whole peace talk thing, at least with South Korea, is centered around the fact that NK has gone to far in their testing of nuclear weapons with the test site being destroyed and unable to verify that it was a test gone bad. They sure destroyed it fast and it looked like on the news that it was just some old wooden buildings.

What is Kim up to ... dare we question his motives ... He wants South Korea to be his friends and remove the threat of war with USA so they can prosper again. I heard that the whole country will go broke by October if they don't make a deal.

What would it take to hide say (10 nuclear warheads and of course those mobile missile launchers in a country that is suspicious of everything they do?

I'm sure we won't give in with Trump saying we won't be suckers this time, but the oriental mind is too shifty for me to at least think they are up to no good.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I've been thinking (like that biker guy in the Beach Blanket movies)

What if Aktungbby is on to something here and the whole peace talk thing, at least with South Korea, is centered around the fact that NK has gone to far in their testing of nuclear weapons with the test site being destroyed and unable to verify that it was a test gone bad. What would it take to hide say (10 nuclear warheads and of course those mobile missile launchers in a country that is suspicious of everything they do?
I'm sure we won't give in with Trump saying we won't be suckers this time, but the oriental mind is too shifty for me to at least think they are up to no good.

reread post# 1176's WSJ quote:

These are standard North Korean shakedown techniques, honed to perfection by three generations of regime negotiators. Mr. Kim is probing for pre-emptive concessions before his big get-together with Mr. Trump. Such techniques have proved successful in the past, which is why today North Korea is for all intents and purposes a nuclear state. If the U.S. wants a different outcome this time, it is going to have to adopt a radically different approach.
The most important thing for American negotiators to understand is that North Korea is a “revisionist state”—one that is deeply aggrieved by, and fundamentally opposed to, the current configuration of the international chessboard. It regards South Korea as an illegitimate monstrosity that must be wiped off the map so the Kim family can gather the whole Korean race (the “minjok”) under the peninsula’s true “independent socialist” government.
Given that worldview, North Korea regards the U.S. as the villain whose security architecture has permitted the vile “South Korean puppets” to survive. Thus the imperative for Mr. Kim to amass an arsenal of nukes and long-range missiles. The eventual goal is a showdown in which Pyongyang would make Uncle Sam blink and abandon Korea.

THE MEETING IN SINGAPORE IS JUST SO MUCH 'JAW-JAW' ON BEHALF OF LONG-RANGE CHINESE EXPANSIONIST POLICIES. THE KIM-KIM MOON-MOON HUG-HUG POSES NO ILLUSIONS FOR MR MOON WHO KNOWS PERFECTLY WELL HE WILL END UP ALONGSIDE FATBOY'S UNCLE AND HALF BROTHER AS AN EXPENDIBLE ENTITY TO THE 'MINJOK' INTENTIONS OF 'DEAR LEADER'....
THIS HAS ALL THE EARMARKS OF THE HILTLER-STALIN PACT PRIOR TO OPERATION BARBAROSSA....

[THE_MASK]

What about a free trade agreement with the USA in exchange for unfetted UN inspectors for disarmament of nukes .