Elder Scrolls V in the works - direct sequel to Oblivion

[Spike88]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Finally bit the bullet and signed on with the Stormcloaks, who I believe were signed under the Motown label for a time. I figured that since gods are real in this universe, and Talos is one of those gods, that I should probably sign on with the winning side. After all, I remember the ending of Oblivion. Besides, no way am I licking Aldmeri boot.

I went for the Imperials. The only way to beat back the Aldmeri Dominion is for the Empire to be united as one. If the Stormcloaks manage to take over Skyrim, they'd be easy an easy target for the Aldmeri Dominion.

I do like how they managed to create a gray section with the two sides, neither side is the "good" guys, both have their problems.



I just stumbled upon a Dewmer dungeon, lower levels are plagued with Falmer(who don't own me as much as they did when I was level 12(I'm 18 now)). I'm hoping that I don't run into another Dwemer Centurion though, they are a pain in the arse, and the only reason I managed to kill the last one was because he's too tall to follow me into narrow corridors. I just realized the awesomeness of giving Lyda a ice sword, she freezes them and I hit them with my fire sword, doing extra damage.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Spike88

I went for the Imperials. The only way to beat back the Aldmeri Dominion is for the Empire to be united as one. If the Stormcloaks manage to take over Skyrim, they'd be easy an easy target for the Aldmeri Dominion.

I do like how they managed to create a gray section with the two sides, neither side is the "good" guys, both have their problems.

It is fantastic indeed! I have no idea how things will turn out, but I have given the decision a lot of thought. Nerd mode engaged:

Morrowind, Elsweyr and Black Marsh have already succeded from the Empire, with Morrowind in particualr leaving over the Talos issue. The Argonians are now on relatively friendly terms with the Dunmer leadership, which may have led to their leaving. What remains of the Dominion-led Empire is, obviously Summerset Isle, but also Cyrodiil, High Rock and Hammerfell. As we learn from the Redguard agents outside of Whiterun, the Redguard leaders are in, or close to, a state of full rebellion against Aldmeri authority. Now, people keep going out of their way to remind us [the player] that Talos/Tiber Septim was Dragonborn, and that there has not been another of those for a long, long time. This leads me to believe that future lore will have the player character in Skyrim become the head of the new line of god-approved Emperors. There is no way that the Dominion will permit a sort of 'Talos revived' to be the new Emperor, so it stands to reason that the old Empire will have to be destroyed. This would require the independence of Skyrim, which would fold on it's own. However, it seems likely that Skyrim would recieve aid from Morrowind and Black Marsh, with Elsweyr joining possibly, and revolt from the Redguards in Hammerfell likely. It looks like the battle lines would then be Cyrodiil, Summerset and High Rock against Skyrim, Morrowind, Black Marsh, Elsweyr and Hammerfell.

Nerd mode disengaged.

I just stumbled upon a Dewmer dungeon, lower levels are plagued with Falmer(who don't own me as much as they did when I was level 12(I'm 18 now)). I'm hoping that I don't run into another Dwemer Centurion though, they are a pain in the arse, and the only reason I managed to kill the last one was because he's too tall to follow me into narrow corridors. I just realized the awesomeness of giving Lyda a ice sword, she freezes them and I hit them with my fire sword, doing extra damage.

I am always afraid to take followers with me because I don't want them to die. Do they die, or are just rendered unconcsious?


EDIT: Is it just me, or does the game world seem much larger than previous installments? I know they said it is roughly the same size as Oblivion, but it seems to take a lot longer to go from city to city. I think it is past time for me to invest in a horse.

[seaniam81]

The one problem I have with the stormcloaks is they want to kick out everybody who isn't a Nord. While I'm playing as a Nord, I've run into a lot of non Nords in Skyrim. But at the same time I'm against the no Talos worship of the Empire.
hmmm... I'm still leaning Imperial.

[Spike88]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

It is fantastic indeed! I have no idea how things will turn out, but I have given the decision a lot of thought. Nerd mode engaged:

Morrowind, Elsweyr and Black Marsh have already succeded from the Empire, with Morrowind in particualr leaving over the Talos issue. The Argonians are now on relatively friendly terms with the Dunmer leadership, which may have led to their leaving. What remains of the Dominion-led Empire is, obviously Summerset Isle, but also Cyrodiil, High Rock and Hammerfell. As we learn from the Redguard agents outside of Whiterun, the Redguard leaders are in, or close to, a state of full rebellion against Aldmeri authority. Now, people keep going out of their way to remind us [the player] that Talos/Tiber Septim was Dragonborn, and that there has not been another of those for a long, long time. This leads me to believe that future lore will have the player character in Skyrim become the head of the new line of god-approved Emperors. There is no way that the Dominion will permit a sort of 'Talos revived' to be the new Emperor, so it stands to reason that the old Empire will have to be destroyed. This would require the independence of Skyrim, which would fold on it's own. However, it seems likely that Skyrim would recieve aid from Morrowind and Black Marsh, with Elsweyr joining possibly, and revolt from the Redguards in Hammerfell likely. It looks like the battle lines would then be Cyrodiil, Summerset and High Rock against Skyrim, Morrowind, Black Marsh, Elsweyr and Hammerfell.

Nerd mode disengaged.

From my understanding Morrowind is mostly in ruin and invaded by the Argonians, so they wouldn't be much of a use. This is why there is a Dunmer population in Skyrim.The vibe I got from The Infernal City is that Black Marsh had decided to stick to itself. They had also left shortly after the Oblivion crisis, so I also doubt they would be of any use. The Elsweyr believe that the Thalmor are their saviors, so I also doubt that they'd join in with Skyrim. The Elsweyer are also part of the Dominion. If the Elsweyer hadn't left the Empire in the first place, the Dominion wouldn't have been able to attack the heart of Cyrodiil.

Edit: Oh and Hammerfall left the Empire shortly after the White-Gold Concordat was signed. They were opposed to ceding their land to the Dominion, so the Empire renounced them. They fought with the Dominion for several more years before the Thalmor signed a treaty, as the Dominion came to a stand still against the forces of Hammerfall.


I honestly can't blame the empire for signing the treaty, as they were hurting bad.

There is also the possibility that once Skyrim is free from the empire, that the Jarls will all fight amongst themelves Shogun style in hopes of becoming the High King. It's happened before, I know for a fact that Jarl Balgruuf thinks Ulfric is an ego-maniac, so I doubt he'd accept him as the High King. I still think that Skyrim without the Empire would be an easy target for the Dominion. Especially now that Skyrim has a Dragonborn to use against the Thalmor, and unite the Empire again.


Speaking of this conflict, wouldn't it be awesome if the DLC was about the battle against the Dominion and would reflect Skyrims current political state.

I am always afraid to take followers with me because I don't want them to die. Do they die, or are just rendered unconcsious?

Lydia has only died once, and I think it may be because I hit her, and it was against a boss character that took me 3-4 deaths, and all my healing items to beat. Luckily I had saved right before I fought him so I was able to reload after she died and fight him one final time.

The only other companion I've had is one of the Companions who I think may be crucial. But so far from what I've seen is that your followers will fall to their knees and the enemies will then turn their attention to you. After a short while your follower will get up and continue the fight.

As the battle with the boss was hectic I don't know if it's because Lydia was hit when she was down, or because I hit her while she was down that killed her. She hasn't died since then though.

[Drewcifer]

I'm pretty sure they can only die if YOU hit them. I've seen all my followers get beaten to a pulp and lay on the ground moaning. The only time anybody ever dies on me is thru unresponsible spellcasting, chain lighting here, Wall of Storms there.... basically area of effect type stuff. gotta keep them back.

That said my followers kill me too... lydia is always good at stepping on traps after I go by so a swinging log or something crushed my skull... some bodyguard she is..

[Spike88]

Originally Posted by Drewcifer

I'm pretty sure they can only die if YOU hit them. I've seen all my followers get beaten to a pulp and lay on the ground moaning. The only time anybody ever dies on me is thru unresponsible spellcasting, chain lighting here, Wall of Storms there.... basically area of effect type stuff. gotta keep them back.

That said my followers kill me too... lydia is always good at stepping on traps after I go by so a swinging log or something crushed my skull... some bodyguard she is..

Speaking accidentally hitting followers. Stumbled upon a bandit camp while riding my horse. There were only 3 bandits that I could easily take on by myself. I'm firing my bow at one of the bandits when my damn horse runs in front of it while attacking one of the bandits. The arrow hits it and he goes aggro on me. I could still ride him but when I got off he'd attack me. So I killed him for the meat. Waste of 1000 gold.


I just picked an expert lock on my second try. I'm not even a character focusing on lock picking.


Edit: I like the fact that you can find soul gems with souls already in them. I don't know if this was in Oblivion, but it's nice being able to recharge my sword without having to use a soul trapping ability.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

However, it seems likely that Skyrim would recieve aid from Morrowind and Black Marsh, with Elsweyr joining possibly, and revolt from the Redguards in Hammerfell likely.

I doubt Morrowind would come to the aid of Skyrim, seeing as the Nords invaded Vardenfell along with Orc mercenaries. And I doubt that Morrowind would want to be on the same side as Black Marsh who also invaded Morrowind and drove everyone from Morrowind proper to Solstheim.

I'll indulge you your nerdery, as I too find the Elder Scrolls lore to be fascinating.

[Takeda Shingen]

Hmm. I could have sworn that I heard or read that Morrowind and Black Marsh were on better terms after the abolition of slavery, but it looks like I was wrong about a lot of stuff. I might as well join up with the Dark Brotherhood after all, seeing that I already seem to be fighting for the bad guys.

Mookie, it is really interesting to have seen the series expand from Arena, a simple and straightforward sword-and-sorcery game, into the rich lore-filled experience it is now.

[Spike88]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Hmm. I could have sworn that I heard or read that Morrowind and Black Marsh were on better terms after the abolition of slavery, but it looks like I was wrong about a lot of stuff. I might as well join up with the Dark Brotherhood after all, seeing that I already seem to be fighting for the bad guys.

Mookie, it is really interesting to have seen the series expand from Arena, a simple and straightforward sword-and-sorcery game, into the rich lore-filled experience it is now.

Here's a brief history of the current Era.

Link would be helpful:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Fourth_Era

[Drewcifer]

Originally Posted by Spike88

Speaking accidentally hitting followers. Stumbled upon a bandit camp while riding my horse. There were only 3 bandits that I could easily take on by myself. I'm firing my bow at one of the bandits when my damn horse runs in front of it while attacking one of the bandits. The arrow hits it and he goes aggro on me. I could still ride him but when I got off he'd attack me. So I killed him for the meat. Waste of 1000 gold.


I just picked an expert lock on my second try. I'm not even a character focusing on lock picking.


Edit: I like the fact that you can find soul gems with souls already in them. I don't know if this was in Oblivion, but it's nice being able to recharge my sword without having to use a soul trapping ability.

There also isn't any enchanters though that I know of... which pretty much forces you to use soul gems. As I recall you could take your weapons to enchanters and have them recharge them for a price.

[Spike88]

Forgot to mention this, bought some meat from a vendor in Whiterun, everything I bought from him disappeared from his stand, right in front of my eyes, like I was actually buying items from him. Went over to the vegetables stand and it was the same thing. If their new stock shows up on the stands again I'm going to be mind blown.

[Drewcifer]

Walking down a random road I see a chicken run towards me and past at full speed. A second later an arrow lands at my feet, I look up to see several forswon raiders pursuing the chicken. My dog instantly attacked, and I followed suit, made quick work of them. A dog, Two Mages, a Daedra, and a horse were a little bit more then a chicken.

[HunterICX]

Looking pretty much every day at the game shop website for the availability of Skyrim an all I got to say is...



HunterICX

[Dowly]

Think I've made up my mind on the empire vs. stormcloak issue. Well, actually the
stormcloaks made the decision for me when a patrol of three came to pick a fight
at some mining site for no reason.

Wonder if it was because it was a remote area and I am a imperial, so the three
dicks saw their chances to kill some puny imperial. I've been to few stormcloak
camps and they've been friendly so far.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Mookie, it is really interesting to have seen the series expand from Arena, a simple and straightforward sword-and-sorcery game, into the rich lore-filled experience it is now.

Personally, I find they've done a great job making you feel like you're in an active world with things going on around you. You'll often run across Thalimor justicars on the roads, Imperial troops escorting Stormcloak prisoners, travellers, etc. It feels like the politics of the realms really have a bearing on what's going on around you. I can't quite place my finger on it, but Morrowind and Oblivion seemed to be missing something in that regard.